such a shitty school!!!!!one111
Rivals250 updated with 3 UM commits
You should play bouje off, keyboard cat
This comment has absolutely no basis here. The pile on was yesterday you missed it. Sorry.
I missed it, Bob.
I gave you a plus 1, well done.
I laughed so hard reading that last night I was incapable of posting. (which many I'm sure were thankful for).
Is that no matter what I post now I'm going to get negative points. Doesn't matter how insightful, how useful, how non-"retarded" they are and I will still get down-pointed (as evidenced when I joined this thread already down-pointed lower).
I gave my word that I wouldn't change my name but I think that this board is going to make it impossible since I'll just keep going lower.
It would help if you didn't post every time someone made a joke about it. People are giving you negative points because you are coming off as whiny. Post only about things that are not related to "the incident" and people will forgive and forget, eventually
down-pointed for doing absolutely nothing today... So yeah when people say "he'll probably just make another name" what else do you expect me to want to do when all that I see is -392 and now up to -410 something.
It's completely ridiculous. This is my favorite site and I feel like an outcast just because of some stupid shit I said yesterday when I was pissed off. Sorry I had a bad posting day but I don't think that I should be completely reamed every time I make a post.
How about you take a week or two off from posting? I don't know if that will give people time to forget...or if we all will just get a week or two of better comments.
Now that I'm -400 that's at least about 1,000 posts that I have to do to get back to even (since I'll probably get down-voted a lot more than up-voted). And I'd like to be back up to even before football season so that I can actually post stuff again...
Sadly for the board, you seem to have figured out how to post even while sporting a huge negative number.
I'm using it like a chip on my shoulder (kind of like Drew Dileo said in his interview a while ago that Brian referenced)
This is why, this is why, this is why you're awesome. (aimed at Crankthatdonovan)
People can forgive anything if you let the issue drop. Stop posting for a week bouje, come back, add some witty/insightful/useful posts, and you'll be back above 0 in no time. If you prove you can contribute positively, you'll move up faster than you went down.
I probably shouldn't force the issue. You're okay in my book Shock I've always respected your posts and thought that they were funny (no matter what I said yesterday)
Another piece of advice, though you probably don't need it: do not ever, ever, EVER, visit the Florida State boards. That will end poorly for all involved
I've been to Wisconsin, PSU, MSU, NW (haha like they care) for away football games and I'm always told how nice and courteous I am and I always tell them "You should see me at the Big House".
I know that when you're in someone else's house that you should respect them. As much as other posters would like to think I'm not an idiot and I would never go to another message board and give Michigan a bad name.
(hands over napkin)
Thank you Shock, cocktails and tiny sandwiches to you, good sir
Bouje, if you have seen the movie Swingers, you are the living embodiment of the scene with the answering machine messages. Just stop calling. You are not fixing things.
If you want to escape the deepening hole, I will echo others and suggest you unclench your death grip on the shovel and stop flailing your arms.
You will be forgiven. There are already kind souls throwing you positive points for anything you say. You need to take a deep breath and slow down. People will stop ranking you down when you stop burying threads that could otherwise be interesting with your middle school shoving matches. I genuinely wanted to discuss the Rivals rankings; instead I've twice been treated to your idiotic squabbles. That's the real problem--your feuds are hiding the content. Please walk away from the fights so people can talk about football.
double post (stupid mozilla)
but I have the feeling I'm better off for it. Besides, it's just pointless to get all worked up about rankings at this point. There's so much that's going to happen before signing day that it's all pretty meaningless now. If, God forbid, we go 3-9 again, you can bet that we'll see a nice trickle of decommits. If we go 9-3 and, God willing, beat OSU, then you'll see some highly ranked guys swing our way that we appear to have no chance for right now.
-423 and counting. What the hell happened?
On page 3 of the forum. I said something stupid... attempted to defend it and got reamed and am still getting it today
i give you plus 1 for sticking to your guns and keeping your name. If you dont act stupid and post logical and insightful information people will accept you.
Man, so the guy didn't make the most well thought out comment in history, but calling him an effing retard and all of that is way over the line. I personally don't think all of the attacks / policing is helping this board, it's just pushing it in the direction of mlive.
You should reread the thread from yesterday. No one called him an effing retard. I said (because he posted a number of false rankings) that he was either retarded or terrible are reading a list, implying the latter. Because he told us what list he was referring to, and reporting things horribly incorrectly. That's not at all the same as "you're a fucking retard."
I called him a fucking retard, but then I do that all the time. That's why I'm a beloved member of this community.
For telling me to reread when I had it correct.
Brodie at 4:22 PM
"He made the right choice, you fucking retard."
plus 1 for making me laugh late at night.
These rankings are some shit..... #171... wtf?
It's also sad that Michigan only has 3 guys in the entire group...
We only recruit 3* players. That's RR's model. If they are any higher he has to lay off of them.
You need to stop posting for a while.
Apparently you didn't read the other post about sarcasm. Also why should I I've gone from -400 to -150... and have actually received some good comments on my posting...
(won't let me edit that one so i'll add it here)
***SARCASM UP ABOVE BE CAREFUL NOT FOR FAINT OF HEART****
Ok, not piling on the kid. Just wanted to make the point these ranking mean nothing.
Mike Hart turned out to be pretty good.
Pat White was a -8 star.
that is an illogical argument. The majority of 3*'s don't turn out that's why they are 3*'s
why you keep posting.
That this board will never let this shit go. Oh no I said something against what the mob thought. I'll never do it again but I said that I'd keep posting under this name and not change and just make a new name.
I'm here to stay and I've read this site for a long time so it's not like I'm just going to up and leave.
does NOT equate to writing idiotic, nonsensical posts which waste everyone's time. you start with the inflammatory rhetoric, and then when you get called out on it, you resort to comments like the above, which I'd expect out of my five-year-old daughter.
If you've got knowledge to drop, drop it. If you're going to spout garbage, like you've done yesterday and today, stop it.
All you do is bitch about the dumb stuff that he and everyone else says, so I don't really know what is more annoying.....
I for one would take the guy that get pissed at the moron over the moron any single day of the week.
....at some point you'll realize why this Board is held in a little bit higher regard than MLive or Freep.
Who does the rankings? Are we a 5* message board?
No, were a Pat White 2* diamond in the rough.
We'll sneak up on the other message boards they'll never know what hit them.
But we really probably shouldn't vote down a comment that's as innocuous as this just because it's bouje talking. The guy's clearly not a troll.
I also don't think a troll would troll on a Michigan board by trolling about what I did. If he did he'd be the worst troll ever clearly it's just the rantings of an idiot.
I find it odd that of all of his posts it is the one above that you decide to reply, "I have no idea why you keep posting."
Reading over posts yesterday and today I find the post to which you refer to be his least inflammatory and most easily defended.
I don't really see what is so horrible about him saying 3* are generally pretty meh... The guy said some dumb stuff, but that doesn't mean everything he says is stupid just because he said it. He's taken his lumps, we had our laughs, let it go.
If you feel a comment is dumb, then just down point it and move on. These pissing contests are tiresome. You have to scroll through pages of a tangent to find relevant posts.
"I'm here to stay and I've read this site for a long time so it's not like I'm just going to up and leave."
It's not that you said something the board thought was wrong, it's that you are an idiot.
Have already proven.
That MSU has 2 commits (Gholsten and Boisture) both of whom are higher than any of our commits. (Yes I know Boisture doesn't fit the system and we got our guy but Gholsten was a miss).
Just pointing that out oh and MSU RULES IN RECRUITING! WOO #1!
Cullen Christian is now rated higher than Boisture, so assuming he eventually commits, this will not last. Gholston may remain higher than anyone we get, though
attends an MSU feeder school, and was considered an uphill battle to come to Ann Arbor from day one.
you want the banhammer.
Gardner ----> Boisture
Austin White ----> Nick Hill
Ricardo Miller ----> any WR commit from MSU
If Cullen Christian commits, ----> Mylan Hicks.
i'm doing you a favor by telling you to stop. Otherwise, in 2 hours you'll have -700 points.
That was a play on every MSU fan that claims that they are locking down the state of Michigan. Obviously jg didn't understand the sarcasm.
it's hard for me to discern between your inanity and your sarcasm. To me they are one and the same. My apologies.
Sparty phrases and caps and excessive exclamation points would tip you off. I'll make sure to put a large disclaimer at the bottom that says
****This was sarcasm****
Look at some of the reviews from the Elite 11 camp. It's pretty clear that DG is a better player than Boisture, even with his undeveloped passing.
Gholston was a player we wish we had, but he was only a "miss" to the extent that Will Campbell was a "miss" for USC. Meaning, it would have been nice if he wasn't signed sealed and delivered for someone else from the beginning.
Anyone who has been reading the Elite 11 updates find it weird that they still rate Boisture #104 and don't even put Bolden on their list?? Everyone watching the two guys throw this week seems to think Bolden is a notch above...
Elite 11 just started. They've probably been working on these new rankings for a while. I doubt they account for Elite 11 performance.
The continued ranking of Boisture above Bolden and Gardner on national lists despite Boisture being considered the third best by regional scouts is one of the continuing mysteries of this recruiting cycle.
I had to ask you guys what negging means. I saw the term used yesterday on the board, and I wondered what the hell you guys were talking about. Sorry if it's a noobish question, please do not pwn me.
In the message board context it means to give someone negative points (which you can do since you have earned the privilege since you are above 20 points).
Negging in a social setting is a tactic used by pick-up-artists to (and I know I'll get flamed for this) give a girl a back-handed compliment in hopes that she never gets put down and likes it. The insult cannot be too dick-ish though.
For more information about negging read "The Game" by Neil Strauss
I am all for you climbing out of the abyss but please lord no more Pick Up Artist stuff.
Off Topic, but I don't want to start a new thread. Did Brennan Clay ever visit Oklahoma?
opinion from what I've gathered from here and VB in parenthesis
1. Henderson (long shot hopefully he'll come back to campus)
4. Prater (long shot)
9. Floyd (long shot)
35. Anderson (Glenville need I say more?)
46. Clay (Can we get him on campus since they did get Finch?)
60. Christian (Michigan Lock)
123. Robinson (Commit but taking visits)
158. Miller (Commit)
169. Wilson (Decent shot but from So. Fla feeder school is Miami)
171. Gardner (Commit)
173. Mathis (still got a shot but has cooled on us)
I'm still amazed going through this list all of the slot ninja's that cooled on us (Kenny Shaw, etc) but a 3-9 season will do that
If I missed anyone or am a bit off on any of the opinions just let me know. But I think that this shows that RR is recruiting talent but we'll see if he can bust out the snake oil again this year.
I think your list is pretty accurate, except:
* Wilson is more than a decent shot
* I do not believe we are pursuing Mathis as more than a contingency plan for Christian or Grimes falling through (yes, despite his awesome Rivals ranking)
* If Prater makes your list there are other long shots (e.g. Easley, Riley, Derby)
I also expect that we will get commitments from two other 250 players not mentioned either in your list or my additions. We are still in the pre-season. Both for the high school kids and for Michigan. Our appeal with recruits will rise or fall; the stock of recruits will rise or fall.
For perspective, read ESPN's take on our class last June: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=3426017
They rate us #9 and highlight three players:
(1) Beaver (2) Newsome and (3) McNeal
We didn't sign any of those three. And at that time Stokes was committed elsewhere and Taylor Lewan was an unknown defensive tackle switching schools. Much will change.
On the product on the field. If we we eke out a bowl game I feel like we'll really start to come back on the map for a lot of kids who want to be a part of rebuilding Michigan.
I really feel like this will happen but I guess we'll find out in a few months.
does anyone disagree with how gardner is rated? shouldnt he be higher than 171. i believe he should pick up his 5th star but thats just my opinion
If it's as a straight up QB then to me that sounds about right.. If it's also taking into account his athleticism and also the role and type of offense that he'll be playing in in RR's spread then no it should be much higher.
When he's schooling 5* Wr's just to have fun you know that the kid is athletically gifted.
Wow after watching your meteoric fall yesterday it is nice to see you here again and making good contributions to this board. Well done Bouje. I am glad that you didnt give up and that you are no longer being negged when you shouldnt be.
but I came roaring back.
In all seriousness though I deserved it yesterday I was being a prick and was just in a horrendous mood. Worst thread ever.
I'm not a troll, I'm not a douche-bag (although obviously I can be), and I'm not an idiot. And I will continue to prove that throughout my posting career (I feel like I'm on the campaign trail).
I think a majority of the board might disagree with you stating it was the "worst thread ever". Threads like that are needed once in a while during the off-season.
Just out of curiosity, do you know what your point total was before the 'incident'? It's been quite the roller coaster ride for you in terms of points the last 2 days.
Seriously. Atleast he did what bluefront couldn't: regain some respect with good posting and contributions. I commend him for the perseverance and the humility to admit he was being an ass yesterday. Bouje is ok in my book.
Got down to like -450 "back up" to -150 today...
You've gotten many friendly bumps today, I know I gave you a few. Last night things got carried away, but I wouldn't gloat about it.
People, me included, have been giving you points today because it got carried away last night. Not to sound like too much of a douche, but you were still being an idiot and just because we've worked to reverse the damage does not mean you're now some sort of beloved poster. Just stop talking about it and move on now.
But you guys keep bringing it up... I'm just trying to get back to even.
By no means am I saying that I'm a good poster or even an average poster I'm definitely not trying to gloat. He asked so I told him.
In a free artilce on rivals I found this
"Q: From TalHawkins112 in Tuscaloosa, Ala.: Will the top quarterbacks be re-ranked after the Elite 11 camp is over? If so, when?
A: All of the quarterbacks at the camp are definitely being re-evaluated right now here at the camp. I can already tell you from seeing things through a day and half of the camp there we could see some changes in the next rankings update. We're going to shoot for another update about a month from now, after we come back from other major events like Top Gun and the Gridiron King Camp. ? Barry Every "
-- Seems to me there is chance that Gardner moves up in the very near future.
From sherm19 in East Lansing, Mich.: Does Rivals use base some rankings on which school a prospect has committed to. I ask because, Edwin Baker was such a high RB prospect for class of 2009, even after being injured all senior year. But after committing to Michigan State, his ranking decreased dramatically. I'm curious if Joe Boisture would have maintained his Rivals100 ranking had he stayed with a more media preferred school like Boston College. This seems like I'm a bitter fan taking stabs, but I really am interested if this plays a role. Thanks.
No, Rivals.com doesn't base rankings on what school a prospect is committed to or has offers from. In regards to Baker, we got a chance to see him a few times in person throughout his senior season when he was healthy, and it was based on those evaluations that he slid down some. I'm a huge fan of the kid personally and hope he has a ton of success in college. With Boisture, his new ranking has more to do with us seeing him at several events in the late spring and summer and liking several other quarterbacks higher. ? Jeremy Crabtree
defend this moron. Wow, he is crying about rankings and MSU being slighted, because of being MSU. This should answer many on this board as to why I stay away from the MSU boards and post here.
I can almost understand where he's coming from now; since Rodriguez was brought in, we've experienced a similar effect. I was more surprised that they didn't publish anyone's question about DG's ranking, as I know damn well they received many.
wait..did all 3 of them drop some 20 spots? i know marvin started at 99. i thought ricardo was 127ish and i thought DG was 150s
Really? Is it that big of a fucking deal that Gardner is not in the Rivals 100? We all have seen what he is capable of, as he has dominated numerous camps he has played in as a QB and WR, and now he is acquitting himself well in the Elite 11 camp. We got a stud athlete who will do great at QB for us, so stop whining about his rankings. Does it really make a difference if he is #171 or #77 or whatever?
Shouldn't be a surprise that we only have 3 guys in the top 250; Majority of our recruits are tweeners (Wilkins, Paskorz), unknowns (Drake, Williamson, Kinnard), and weak offer lists guys(Dileo, Hopkins, Avery). This is a good, not great recruiting class.
Anybody notice that Rivals lists Gardner as the #2 dual threat QB -- and, having scrolled through the list, the #10 QB overall. Wouldn't you think these days that Dual Threats would be the premium recruits vs. Pro Stylers?
As it is, the #1 DT QB is ranked about 120. Seems wierd to me.
something to do with the rumor(?) that Rivals bases their rankings on potential as an NFL'er? Dual threats wouldn't get much love if this were the case. However, Pryor was #1 ranked last year. Yes, it it is weird and confusing and a conundrum, all wrapped inside of a riddle.
Pryor is like Vince Young, and when Vince Young isn't a head case he's unstoppable even in the pros.
This should have been titled "Is Bouje a good poster?", obviously.
-1 for fail.