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Rivals 100 US Map and SI Article

Map of the hometowns for the Rivals top 100 recruits:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=en&geocode=&q=http:%2F%2...

Good article about the recruiting disadvantages of being Nebraska, ND, and to a lesser extent, Michigan:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_staples/01/20/recruit...

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January 21st, 2009 at 4:56 PM | Cool but (Score:1)
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That is cool but it seems to have forgotten about the West Coast. I heard they had some good players in Cali.

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January 21st, 2009 at 4:59 PM | Gotcha (Score:1)
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Thank you I will try that...

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January 21st, 2009 at 4:58 PM | Interesting stuff: (Score:1)
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"The model created by Mike DuMond, Allen Lynch and Jennifer Platania...found that among heavily recruited players choosing from among only BCS-conference schools, distance from home is the most important factor in a recruit's choice. The model was published in the February 2008 issue of The Journal of Sports Economics.

The model found that a school's academic standing -- whether it's in the top 50 of the US News and World Report rankings -- provides a miniscule bump. So does the final poll ranking of the school the previous season. What didn't matter to players shocked the economists more. According to the data, the players weren't, on the whole, worried about the depth chart, how many national titles schools had won or how many players the school put in the NFL."

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January 21st, 2009 at 6:10 PM | So now we know why the SEC (Score:1)
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So now we know why the SEC has won the last three BCS championships.

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January 21st, 2009 at 7:56 PM | Perhaps we should (Score:1)
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Perhaps we should be rooting for global warming to make the Midwest climate less of a negative for recruiting.
Especially considering how weak they make the NFL factor sound.

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January 21st, 2009 at 8:56 PM | Plus, Florida would be (Score:1)
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Plus, Florida would be underwater, along with a lot of the southeast, so those recruits would have to move somewhere, and they'll be looking for inexpensive housing. That's got Michigan written all over it.

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January 21st, 2009 at 9:09 PM | M climatologists are working (Score:1)
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M climatologists are working on this. If you love M football, got dammit, buy some SUVs.

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January 22nd, 2009 at 7:44 AM | What the hell, where are the (Score:1)
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What the hell, where are the bluechippers from Up State New York?

No question, Jim.

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January 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 AM | A theory - tl;dr ahead (Score:1)
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I've had a theory about why the football players coming out of the south are so much better- school sizes.

I've been unable to find any good info about average high school sizes by state, or even number of high schools per state, but Wikipedia (always a trustworthy source, of course) has lists of [presumably] all high schools by state. The Michigan list is slightly longer than the Florida list... but Michigan is barely half the size of Florida!

This is backed up by my own observations- growing up in Metro Detroit, my school and pretty much all the schools around mine ranged between maybe 1000-1200 students. Whereas, I have several friends who grew up in Florida and ALL of them went to enormous schools with 3000+ students. I think this trend carries across the midwest/northeast vs. south.

Let's suppose that my hypothesis that the south tends to have more large high schools, while the midwest and northeast have smaller schools, in general, is true. What difference does this make?

Well, suppose you have 3000 kids divided between 3 schools, versus 3000 kids at one school. Assume each school has a football team with 60 players. The funding that goes into each of the smaller schools will be much less (maybe a third?) of what goes into the one large school. As a result, the football team at the large school is better funded, and can afford better coaches, trainers, weight room, etc. You're getting three times as much money spent per football player at the large school.

Furthermore, though I think this would be less of a factor, the large school will have better competition both within the team and against other teams. The 20th best kid at one of the small schools might would theoretically be between the 58th and 60th best kid at the large school. I imagine these kids would have to work a lot harder for playing time at the large school.

The kids coming from the large schools clearly have an advantage over the kids coming from small schools. I think this advantage is not insignificant in regards to creating more highly-rated prospects. If my south vs. midwest/northeast student distribution hypothesis is correct, I think the map above could be partially explained by this.

(Again, I realize this is pretty much all theory that I have little evidence or education to back up. Just thought I'd throw it out there)

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January 22nd, 2009 at 10:58 AM | Coming from Texas, school (Score:1)
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Coming from Texas, school size doesn't really affect the spending on football programs. If the district has money, it gets spent on football. If anything, it depends on the demographics/tax base. Some of the smaller schools (say a population of 800) in my area have equal funding to my high school (population 4,000+).

I do think the competition may have some small impact on the smaller schools, but not nearly enough to account for the massive amount of talent coming from the south. Athletic ability and the opportunities the players in the south have probably account for more of the discrepancy. Players in the south are generally one sport players who can take part in that sport year round. Growing up, we had the opportunity to play football all year round. Spring practice was generally in early March when the temperature got back to the upper 70s. 7-on-7 started in late April and lasted until early August. The season went from late August to mid November. If you make the playoffs, the season ended in mid December, right before Christmas. Compare this to what I hear about midwest youth football/high school football, there's about 3 extra months of development. I admit this may just be an incorrect perception.

I still maintain there is a slightly different importance of football in the south on a youth level. That difference in focus is probably the biggest deal. While it is generally overplayed in the media, high school football does have a stronger focus in the south. That focus streamlines the athletes into working on their skills as if its their only chance in life to succeed.

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