Tressel is only 3 years older than Dantonio. I don't think that Tressel will be going anywhere any time soon. I also expect that Dantonio will start to have trouble with Michigan and OSU will want someone who can beat Michigan (when Michigan isn't in a transition).
Rittenberg comment on Dantonio and OSU
+1 for beating me by a minute!
bury ourselves in them,
backs breaking on the tension.
The last time they did that they got John Cooper.
Dantonio is only 3 years younger than Tressel, so a pretty small age gap. I don't see him (Tressel) retiring anytime soon.
Dantonio is staying at State. The only way he leaves is if a big time program like OSU or maybe even the NFL throws a lot of money at him.
That being said, don't listen to me because I have no idea about his intentions.
So Tressel may or may not retire before Dantonio. If he does, I'm assuming Dantonio (if he somehow started beating us most years) won't be hired because he won't have many years left. Although if Tressel retires early (unlikely), and Dantonio is offered (unlikely again), I think he'd take it because he hates Michigan more than he loves State, which is a lot. Has anyone heard Dantonio being mentioned for other jobs or is Rittenberg just saying stuff?
I get the feeling that Dantonio has really embraced MSU and will be there for the long haul. Plus, he's only 4 years younger than Tressel, so depending on how long Tressel hangs on OSU might be looking for someone younger than Dantonio by then.
alum of OSU or something? Seems a little wierd for people to be picking Tressels replacement when hes on a good streak atm. Not sure why OSU would have Dantonio on their short list. Hes a good coach and hes shown he can recruit the state to a competent level, but he hasn't really won anything to write home about at MSU and I cant remember any big bowl wins while he was at UC.
Dantonio isn't an OSU alum, he played for South Carolina. He was their defensive coordinator when they won the National Championship in 2002.
thanx for enlightening me, didnt remember him being the DC for OSU.
I just noticed that he was OSU's DC.
this is common knowledge. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KNOW STUFF BETTER.
I've only watched Michigan football for a few years. I didn't watch it much back then when I was like 12.
Why would a top-flight school like OSU ever consider someone like Dantonio? Maybe I'm missing something, but he's been getting way too much pub for a guy whose one good season relied upon the follies and ineptitude of a lot of their opponents. He's not a bad coach, but he shouldn't be thrown around as somebody who could be at an elite powerhouse one day. At least not yet.
If I'm OSU, I'm calling Charlie Strong when Tressel retires.
I'm kind of assuming he gets a HC gig in the next year or 2 at a mid-major ish level. Assuming he does well (and everyone says he's an outstanding coach) then OSU would be wise to call him. I was also thinking it would be positive publicity. Since schools in the south won't even interview him because his wife is white.
He's also 48, so maybe nevermind.
I hate to burst your "top flight school" bubble, but guess who would've been on the short list to be Michigan's next coach if Lloyd Carr had retired one year earlier?
Have we ever hired someone from MSU? I'd like to think we wouldn't. But on the other hand it would be funny to steal a coach from them.
Steve Stripling, D-Line coach. Come on man, you're 0-2
Give me a break, I'm 17. I don't know all this history shit.
just messin with ya. but this "history shit" is important (uh...less so in sports but it makes it fun).
Stripling was on Carr's staff from 2005 - 2007 so it wasn't that long ago.
You are now allowed to mess with me because you are a good poster with a lot of points.
We wouldn't have stolen him from MSU; that's why I said the thing about Carr retiring a year earlier, when Dantonio was still at Cincinnati.
Oops, I read that as one year later. My fault.
Correct, and, the previous staff (Lloyd and Co.) have a ton of respect for Dantonio.
So much they allowed the moment of silence at midfield? I find this hard to believe to be honest.
Well, I'm taking the word of Doug Karsch (Who, btw, was probably the most accurate of any media outlet with his "insider" info during the coaching search. Certainly more accurate than Scout or Rivals). He has said numerous times that the old UM staff thought Dantonio was a very good coach and was going to be a formidable opponent down the road. I wouldn't take that "moment of silence" stuff too seriously if I were you. It's all in good fun and part of the rivalry. Fans can sometimes get more carried away that bullshit than even the players and coaches.
soooo....a little, nay, a LOT, off this topic - what do you think of B-Inge?
It just seemed a bit off to me. Lloyd's players typically never shot their mouths off, and Hart was smack talking MSU a bit. The moment of silence was pretty lighthearted payback I thought.
Lloyd was a curmudgeon like Dantonio, but he didn't have a complex about it that led to the kinds of comment Dantonio's made. I mean, countdown clock, Mike Hart is short, feels like two wins, no we don't want UM to beat OSU so we have a shot at the Rose Bowl, etc. Sorry, Dantonio still seems like a douchebag.
The "moment of silence" came before Hart said anything. Dantonio said it after the App State game.
Lloyd was not at all happy with the way Mike Hart shot his mouth off for virtually the entire '07 season. Ask yourself this. Had that been ten years earlier in Lloyd's career, do you honestly think that he would've let one of his players get away with running off at the mouth like Hart did without significant repercussions?
I don't know. Woodson mouthed off at OSU and David Boston before and after the '97 game (remember the "I was like a father chastising his son out there" line?) and Carr, as far as we know, didn't do anything.
A bit of a different situation, though. It wasn't a season long thing with Woodson the way it was with Hart.
UM (and OSU) also have countdown clocks in their lockerrooms. It's common. In addition, MSU's clock counts down to each game, not just UM.
Dantonio said he was wasn't going to be cheering for UM. He jokingly said that his OSU friends wouldn't let him into their houses any more. He said that MSU had a chance to win a share of the conference championship, and that's where he was going to be focusing. Why should he be a cheerleader for a rival? It wouldn't (and didn't) matter unless MSU beat PSU.
The "moment of silence" thing was hilariously overblown; anyone who actually heard the comment knew that. Congrats to whoever turned that into bulletin board material.
"I'm not rooting for Michigan. I'm going to focus on our task at hand and worry about the things we can control. I have too many good friends and too many people that wouldn't let me back into their house to let me do that." – Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio, on if he will cheer for Michigan to beat Ohio State, which would open the door for the Spartans to go win the Big Ten if they beat Penn State
Out of context, sure. He could have just said the middle quote and it would have been better, but not as well played to MSU/OSU fans. Also, the OSU-UM game was before the PSU-OSU game by 3 hours. He did have a vested interest in the outcome.
My favorite post from that?
The quote was something along the lines of "UAB could have been tougher, Coach, I just have been informed that App. State has beaten U of M"
Dantonio: "Really, That's a shame, a real shame"
Will Tieman: "Coach, that says it all"
Dantonio: "Should we have a moment of silence?"
Great Moment to be a Spartan
Sorry, I just think he's a tool.
Have we ever hired someone from MSU? I'd like to think we wouldn't.
Why not? If he's a good coach, take him.
We are Michigan. We shouldn't stoop so low and take a coach from little brother. But I do think it would be funny to steal a good HC from them and then continue to beat them with their old coach.
So if Rodriguez, Carroll, Saban, Meyer, or anyone else that you would consider a good coach was at MSU at the time Michigan was hiring and was a candidate for the job, you wouldn't want take them simply because they were coaching for MSU? Do I have that right?
No. Dantonio is nowhere near Carrol, Saban, and Meyer. Those are probably the best 3 coaches in the game. Dantonio can't be mentioned with those guys. MSU isn't a place where most coaches will stay if they have a chance to go somewhere better (Saban).
Have we ever hired someone from MSU? I'd like to think we wouldn't.
We are Michigan. We shouldn't stoop so low and take a coach from little brother.
There’s no mention of Dantonio there. Now, you may be correct with your most recent comments above; Dantonio will likely not rank with Carroll, Saban or Meyer. However, then we’re looking at the quality of the coach in particular, as opposed to the school at which he coaches.
I guess what I’m trying to impress upon you is that while it’s somewhat humorous to call MSU “little brother” and rib them about the inferiority complex, it shouldn’t be taken too seriously. They are a rival, but that does not make the people there inferior. They’ve had some good coaches and some good players walk their sidelines, and to take those people for Michigan’s team is not stooping low just because it’s MSU.
+1 to you
...it's...what's his name, the guy down at Louisiana State, right?
Yes, this is sarcasm.
He was assuming Dantonio builds MSU into a "powerhouse" down the road. I don't see them being a powerhouse when they can only recruit this state, but if they keep having good seasons they will start to get players from out of state. Also, he was their DC for a few years when they had some of their best defenses ever.
People are making a big deal of a guy who had a .500 career record going into last season, and who still (IIRC) hasn't beaten a ranked opponent.
Remember the Ohio State defense that stifled the Hurricanes in the 02 title game?
Remember the Ohio State defenses that were shredded to pieces by Florida and LSU?
There is one fundamental difference between them, and it's not the quality of the players. It's time to give the devil his due. Dantonio is a petulant child with a massive inferiority complex that perfectly fits his place of employment...but he is an excellent defensive coach.
Didn't MSU give up more points to OSU and PSU than we did this year? Despite having an actual offense to play with?
I don't think there's much difference between giving up 46 points an 42 points and giving up 49 and 45. Especially when still dealing with John L. recruits.
But if we're going to look at it that way, MSU gave up 7 points to Notre Dame and 7 points to Purdue, while Michigan gave up...35 and 48.
So I don't think comparing scores like that is really productive. And in the long run I don't think it will matter anyway. Dantonio's building a defense in the mold of old Michigan - it'll look really good against straight ahead smashmouth teams like Iowa and Wisconsin, and get exposed badly by faster teams like Michigan and Penn State.
It's not productive, but it's something to think about. If Dantonio's defense can't stop the SpreadHD, the Spread 'n' Shred, or Terrelle Pryor, then, uh, I'm more than ok with that. Can OSU hire him tomorrow?
But he had Jevon "I Shoulda beena contender" Ringer in the backfield.
Poor showing really.
Dantonio won a National Championship at OSU as their Defensive Coordinator.
And Jim Hermann coached ours. He was also the assistant coach of the year and all that amazing stuff that made people think he'd be The One down the road.
Oops. Give the guy a little time.
Likely someone a bit younger like Luke Fickell
Only if Tressel leaves to coach the Bengals or some unlikely shit like that. Even then they probably stay in house.