Lots of hate/anger in this thread.
C'mon, people (I'd say "fellas" but don't want to be accused of sexism) -- it's Friday afternoon!
Lots of hate/anger in this thread.
C'mon, people (I'd say "fellas" but don't want to be accused of sexism) -- it's Friday afternoon!
People are so quick to hate on one another even if we are all Michigan fans here. I don't know if its because people are bored at work or are truely, just well, hateful. 47 responses and only 1 person has answered the question that I asked, while the rest of you have completely missed the point of my post and decided to bitch about Michigan arrogance. I was only asking about how RichRod addresses academics in his recruiting pitches and yet some of you are so bored that you are looking up the credentials of UM faculty. Pathetic, get a life! People like Don are the truely arrogant ones who go through such extremes to try to put others down.
People are objecting to this:
I feel like he and his staff will never really understand and use it to the fullest because they did not receive a degree from Michigan.
Because it's dumb. Were they distracted from your question? Yes. But your question basically, asked if we knew what RR pitched to recruits. As none of us are recruits, we don't. OK?
As I'm not a recruit, I don't know.
Maybe one of the hundreds of people that read this blog is a team manager that recently graduated this spring and had inside information on the topic. Although unlikely, it was worth a shot since the purpose of this Forum is to facilitate conversation with eachother. Sure my statement was bold, but all of you need to get your panties out of a bunch and not act like its the end of the world when someone has a different viewpoint other than your own.
"the purpose of this Forum is to facilitate conversation with each other..."
That was probably true a couple of years ago. But over the last year or so, it has become all but impossible to craft a question or opinion in such a way as to not invite a slew of surprisingly rude remarks. It's just not a very civil forum anymore and the lack of civility has spread like a virus to folks who were seemingly likeable chaps before. You're better off to email Brian directly with a legit question, or to simply be prepared for a ratio of about 10 assholes to one non-asshole on each thread. This is probably the envitable outcome of mixing the anonymity of the internet, passionate fans, and a lack of real news with a zero-sum game. Just my e-pinion.
As you said, the purpose of the forum is to facilitate conversation. As you also said, your statement was bold. It was your viewpoint.
As it happened, your bold viewpoint was unfounded and incorrect. It stimulated conversation, just not the one you wanted. Too bad. There are many here, including myself, that are incredibly tired of the (apparently well-deserved) arrogant Michigan fan reputation. Your post simply furthered that opinion. It was not “only asking about how RichRod addresses academics in his recruiting pitches,” despite your protests to the contrary.
So how about you be a man about it, own up to your statement, and maybe, just maybe, come away having learned something about recruiting. There’s actually some useful information up above, if you care to look at it instead of whine about it. And the next time you want to ask a question “about how RichRod addresses academics in his recruiting” and make sure the respondents don’t miss the point, then just ask the damn question and forget the arrogance garbage.
My panties aren't in a bunch. I went commando today.
I suspect that Rodriguez's pitch is tailored to each specific recruit. If a recruit seems like he cares about academics, then he probably includes that. If not, then it's doubtful.
It seems probable that there is much, much more focus on things like "compete for playing time immediately", "Michigan football tradition/success in NFL", and "look at my track record", though.
Not that I would understand, anyhow. I went to DEARBORN! EWWWWW
there is a family here whose grandfather attended Dearborn. He went on to be a used car salesman. Years later, his grandaughter, who is 3 years younger than myself, graduated from Dearborn 3 years ago and is now entering her 3rd year as a waitress at a local dive of a restaurant. Now I am aware of the economy, but it makes me chuckle just a bit whenever I see her.
Wait, what are we talking about?
Your panties may not be in a bunch, but my leather thong has been twisted ever since I read this post. Also, my ass is a little chapped.
Maybe one of the hundreds of people that read this blog is a team manager that recently graduated this spring and had inside information on the topic.
And that would look like what, exactly? A team manager is going to be able to speak with authority on what exactly RichRod is saying to a recruit on the phone right now? Even though he's already graduated? Even though RichRod (most likely) doesn't let team managers listen in on those phone calls? Even though that hypothetically involved and informed team manager is (most likely) going to be very reluctant to divulge what goes on behind the scenes? Really, you believe this little fantasy scenario is possible, or even likely? What possible information could this fantasy team manager provide that would be credible and informative, in your opinion?
Quit pretending that you were genuinely seeking information (which, BTW, you did get from the comments). You wanted to express "concern" about RichRod's recruiting tactics, and people trashed you for it. Them's the breaks, man.
I love it when a diary gets trashed and then all of a sudden the author starts rending garments over the "hate" being "spewed" in his precious little snowflake of a diary. This comes with the territory of posting, and you should count your blessings at how gently bad diaries are treated around here. Internet commenters can be a LOT worse on other parts of the web.
47 responses and only 1 person has answered the question that I asked.
Which was what, exactly? Literally your question is "does anyone know if RichRod is pushing the academics in his pitch?" And the answer is "probably yes, but none of us know for sure since we don't have transcripts of the phone conversations RichRod is having with recruits." Boom, question answered. If that's all you were interested in, then what's the fucking problem?
But, and this is important for you to remember in future posts, that's not ALL you wrote. Clearly you implied that RichRod might be leaving something on the table if he wasn't pitching academics...which is just dumb, for many reasons that the commenters pointed out. And I think that's the problem you're having with the whole "47 comments and only 1 answer to the question"- people trashed something you wrote, and your panties are twisted or something.
Boo fucking hoo. If you write something dumb, then you should expect people to call you on it. If you have a problem with that, then you need to A) make sure you don't write something dumb in the future, B) nut up and be man enough to handle being called dumb when you write something dumb, or C) if neither A nor B is possible then stop writing.
Sometimes the internet can be brutal. Deal with it.
One person actually did claim that he hated the guy a little. He actually used the word "hate." In this thread. Just sayin.
DieforM, you directly stated that you believe RR and staff can't or don't represent Michigan adequately simply because they don't have UM degrees, which is a gigantically questionable assumption on all sorts of levels and one that is directly contradicted by the historical football record at UM. How in hell, if you're such a great UM football fan, could you have asked that question in full knowledge that not a single one of the best UM coaches attended Michigan? Really, I'm puzzled. Nobody else made that assumption. If you had simply asked the question without that, this thread would have gone in a completely different direction. That's your problem, not ours.
Calling me arrogant is a bit comical since I'm the guy with two UM degrees who — along with others here — is making the argument that people from other educational institutions can in fact represent the University well. What you deride as my "extremes" is also known as simple "research," since most of us try to avoid making bold statements without some basic facts behind us.
And please: a sports blog diarist using the term "get a life" in response to a commenter on that same sports blog?
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post full of LAUGHS but not ANSWERS.
His question was answered.
"Please, please, kids stop fighting. Maybe Lisa's right about America being the land of opportunity, and maybe Adil has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers."
dude, seriously. who cares how rich rod recruits the players to michigan. as long as he gets players, i don't care if they're here cause their mom loves academics or because they like the practice facilities. you ask the question as if you think rich rod doesn't realize how totally awesome a michigan degree is. i'm pretty sure he's well aware of the fact that michigan is a good school and uses it when he sees fit.
i mean, what're you looking for here? some evidence that he walks around with a copy of the us news and world report and impresses it upon recruits mothers (because we all know recruits mother's love academics) for a solid 45 minutes just so they understand that we have the 25th ranked university in the country? well, if it makes you happy, i heard rich rod walks around with a copy of the us news and world report and impresses upon recruits mothers for a good 45 minutes that we have the 25th best undergrad in the country.
i also heard the reason we don't lead for will gholston right now is because richrod forgot the magazine when he went on an in home visit. he totally forgot to mention to will's mom that michigan is an awesome school. i read on rivals that will's mom is convinced that msu is actually a higher ranked school than michigan now because richrod didn't really make it clear to her how great we are at academics. i also heard that seantrel henderson is only interested in michigan because we've got a top ten EECS program.
hey, i just had an idea. why don't you quit your job and do a recruit's mothers bus tour? drive all over the country, meet recruits mothers, and hand them copies of us news and world report with michigan's spot in the rankings highlighted with either a green or yellow highlighter. the brand of the the highlighter doesn't matter, just get anyone you find. you really need to do this for us because we're uncertain as to richrod's utilization of the us news and world report rankings for the year 2009, that is the only way to be certain that the word is out that michigan is tops in all the land.
Thrillhouse, you are actually exactly right. To be honest I would quit my job in a second to do exactly that. I was actually looking for RichRod's email today and going to write him an email expressing interest in a recruiting job and attaching my resume. I am not even joking, I currently have a job that sounds really good but in all reality is awful. It also pays extremely well dont get me wrong, but I am withering my life away in a cubicle for 10 hours a day. So you actually nailed the underlying purpose of my post right on the head. I was curious to see if there was anyone in RichRod's recruiting team that pitched academics, and if there wasn't I would be the one to do it and find my niche and be affiliated with the University of Michigan football team.
I also would like to thank everyone for all of their input and for making another boring Friday at work pass by faster. Have a good weekend.
I'm pretty sure Rich Rod knows the importance of academics. He said that the football team is going to break the record for overall team GPA for a semester.
I thought it was going to be the highest it's been in 20 years, not in forever...
Ok. But that is still 20 years.
and am a big name recruit that rhymes with lentell penderson. He said if I come to UM I can pet barwis' wolf and hold Space Emperors jock strap. He said a UM education will allow you to drop phat lewtz at da club when your rolling with the honeys after you make bank in the NFL. I mean, it can be pretty tough figuring out the tip % on the Goose.
Revel in the information that I secretly gave you because I wanted you to stop whining.
We have no players from China, Australia, Canada or France. RR is just not utilizing all the resources UM can muster. No Polynisians either! WTF is up with that? I personally know of a kid from Italy that RR hasn't even bothered to contact--a soccer player who once was an altar boy for the Pope. The POPE! Damn it, we could have God on our side! Think about the Notre Dame game, people! And, the Department of Corrections informed me RR has yet to make a recruiting trip to Jackson State Prison! Have you seen the kids coming out of there? They are monsters! We could win multiple NC's and Fulmer Cups! It's almost as if RR never watched either of The Longest Yard's!