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By Brian — January 26th, 2012 at 2:00 PM — 108 comments
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As Signing Day nears, people commit to schools. That's how it works. Michigan has had a long wait after their summer flood and now sits on five guys that will either fill out the class or commit heinous crimes that can never be forgiven. In the spirit of late January/early February recruiting overkill, a rundown of the prospects and what my own Bayesian spidey sense (assembled from message board trolling, tips in the inbox, and a few conversations) is feeling at the moment.

If you don't read every word of the recruiting roundups, let this serve as a 1,000 foot view.

9048518-large[1]OH TE Sam Grant. Grant recently decommitted from Boston College after a long period of being a commit in name only and is either down to Michigan and Oklahoma or those two schools and Arkansas, depending on who you listen to. I have no insider information on him but his visit schedule is telling. In chronological order, he took trips to:

  1. BC
  2. Michigan
  3. Arkansas
  4. Oklahoma
  5. Michigan

That second trip is telling, likely an attempt to confirm his decision or bring a family member up to get them on board. With Kyle Kalis undoubtedly in his ear and Oklahoma flush with tight end recruits (three already), this one seems like the least dramatic recruitment on the board.

Verdict: Michigan.

Jordan-Diamond[1]IL OL Jordan Diamond. Diamond has seemingly had Michigan in the lead for over a year now, when he popped up on Michigan's radar during their recruitment of Simeon teammate Chris Bryant. A recruit not committing to an obvious leader over a long period of time can be a bad sign—it's often a signal there's something impassable. In Diamond's case, once Meyer arrived and started shooting offers out to anyone with four stars in the Big Ten footprint rumors started swirling about an Ohio State commit; he visited.

That moment has passed, leaving Diamond with an official top four of M, Arkansas, Auburn, and Wisconsin. Unofficially, that top four is a top two of M and Arkansas. The delay here is supposedly alarm at Michigan's offensive line recruiting class and Diamond's seeming inability to start from day one at Michigan. If Michigan makes it clear that the need at tackle is dire and that a couple of the touted players in the class are likely destined for guard (like Kalis and Garnett if he chooses justice and light), he should be blue. People close to Diamond believe that he really wants Michigan.

Verdict: Michigan.

scaled1_0[1]WA OL Josh Garnett. The biggest fish on the board is down to Stanford and Michigan. There is an interesting divide between the most informed Michigan observers (Sam, Tom), who believe it will be M, and most national analysts, who believe it will be Stanford. Garnett is going to make a lot of people wrong no matter who he chooses. Tom's confidence has been on the wane a bit of late; Sam, too, has been a little more reserved about Michigan's chances. This seems based on vibe more than new information, which isn't forthcoming. Some of the West Coast analysts predicting Stanford admit that they haven't gotten any new information out of Garnett in forever.

Meanwhile, Kevin Erik Magnuson [ed: damn my memory for obscure old M hockey defensemen] and Garnett twitter footsie has reached levels heretofore unseen. Garnett has a bunch of people snowed either way; the choice here is between distance from home and being able to enjoy a milkshake with Magnuson at a school that has a much better track record of sustained success than Stanford.

This one is a tossup on which I don't have inside info. But…

Verdict: Michigan.

image[1]MA CB Armani Reeves. After decommiting from Penn State, Reeves is down to Michigan or Ohio State. Michigan came in second on Reeves's first go-round and familiarity on its side—Ohio State just hired their defensive backs coach a couple hours ago. Ohio State has a commitment from best friend and fellow PSU decommit Camren Williams. Quien es mas macho?

Nobody knows. This is another recruitment that will go into the hat dance a genuine mystery; Rivals East Coast analyst Mike Farrell was "surprised" that the Urban in-home didn't lock Reeves down and now gives Michigan a ludicrously specific 52-48 edge based on nothing more than Bayesian spidey sense vibes. It's likely that not even Reeves knows where he's going at the moment.

Verdict: Flip a coin.

69751_1445193861368_1578789429_30924635_5615435_n[1]CO OL Alex Kozan. Kozan is down to Iowa, Michigan, and Auburn, three of the four schools he took officials to. Ohio State, the other, was presumed to be the heavy favorite. The way that changed suddenly implies that OSU pulled its offer. With the lingering OSU fandom push him away or will revenge bloodlust push him towards Michigan? Nobody knows.

No one knows anything about Kozan, really. I can't find one thing that indicates he's leaning one way or the other and haven't heard anything personally. All I've got is that it's the Auburn site on 247 that seems to be posting the most relevant items, like his announcement date. Auburn is nowhere near the 25 maximum and though they are hypothetically near 85, things happen, you know.

Verdict: Flip a three-sided coin.

Random Surprise Fellow. I think Michigan can take all five of the above if the chips fall their way. They have 23 with three early enrollees and have 27 scholarships open right now with one blindingly obvious candidate to not receive a fifth year. If Michigan strikes out on one or more of the above, do they have an Englemon in their pocket?

I have heard they do, a generic three-star defensive lineman currently committed to another BCS school. Michigan initially did not pursue him heavily but if there's a signing day flip don't be shocked. I think it'll take more than missing out on just one of the above for that to happen, but if it's a choice between leaving three scholarships open and taking a mystery guy I'm betting on mystery guy.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:03 PM | Who is Kevin Magnuson? (Score:2 Normal)
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Who is Kevin Magnuson?

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | Are you serious!? (Score:3 Normal)
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Kevin Magnuson played for our '98 NC hockey team.
Did NOT know he & Garnett were tight tho...

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January 26th, 2012 at 4:28 PM | And son of Blackhawks legend (Score:1)
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And son of Blackhawks legend Keith Magnuson.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | Caught that too... (Score:1)
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Erik, maybe Kevin is his dad and Brian got confused? Maybe he has a pet named Kevin Magnuson?

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:23 PM | Either way (Score:5 Normal)
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It's an offensive slip-up.  A guy with a great name like Erik shouldn't be saddled with something as pedestrian as Kevin.  Kevin isn't a viking - he's just some schmuck.

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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January 26th, 2012 at 3:57 PM | Hey ... (Score:5 Normal)
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  F you.

 

Sincerely,

Kevin

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:33 PM | "Kevin" is a deragatory name (Score:5 Normal)
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"Kevin" is a deragatory name for white people, much like "Tom" is a deragatory name for black people. Clearly, Brian is calling Magnuson an "Uncle Kevin" and is blatantly racist.

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January 26th, 2012 at 3:59 PM |   Man, and I thought my (Score:1)
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  Man, and I thought my parents loved me.  Damn.

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January 26th, 2012 at 4:44 PM | Good one (Score:1)
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Had a good laugh at that one

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January 26th, 2012 at 4:49 PM | So what happens if these guys have nieces or nephews? (Score:1)
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Tom Jackson

Thomas Gordon

Thomas Mikal Ford

Tommie Harris

Tom Brady

...oh wait...nevermind on that one

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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January 26th, 2012 at 8:37 PM | I know he's a dirt-bag but . . . (Score:2)
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why no love for this Tom?

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

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January 27th, 2012 at 10:25 AM | ...um (Score:2 Normal)
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because he's a dirt bag?

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:45 PM | I think that's their son (Score:1)
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Erik and Josh - it's that real!

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:03 PM | If the Heidelberg doesn't (Score:2 Normal)
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If the Heidelberg doesn't sell Josh Garnett on Ann Arbor, I don't know what will. 

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January 26th, 2012 at 4:44 PM | Nothing good... (Score:1)
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nothing good ever happens downstairs at the Heidleberg after 10 pm (except the occassional boob).

We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness.  This is Michigan.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:09 PM | Reeves at 52-48?! (Score:3 Normal)
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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!  It's obviously 53-47.  Duh. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Actually... (Score:5 Normal)
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...it was 40-34 M over ohio ;)

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:09 PM | It's really funny that they (Score:2)
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It's really funny that they took Garnett to the Rathskellar. Definitely the hangout for Michigan offensive linemen.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:10 PM | 5th year? (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Who is the guy with the 5th year?  I'm thinking Gardner.  I hope its Gardner...  Any help?

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:13 PM | Not about DG (Score:3 Normal)
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If you're looking at what I'm looking at, Brian is saying that there is a current player who would be a 5th-year senior next year who will not be given that 5th year. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:26 PM | and the obvious candidate is (Score:5 Normal)
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and the obvious candidate is obvious

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:37 PM | 5th Year (Score:1)
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If we sign a full class of 28, we will have 86 players on scholarship, when we are only allowed 85. The consensus is that RB Mike Cox would be the casualty and not have his scholarship renewed for a 5th year.

 

Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:55 PM | Anyone remember when Michigan's biggest recruiting concern (Score:1 Normal)
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Was how were we ever going to have enough scholarships to fit in 20 guys...then 22..then 25...then 25+?

I'll give everyone a hint...it wasn't long after our biggest worry was "when are we ever going to get our first commitment?!?!"

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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January 26th, 2012 at 3:29 PM | And remember when that first (Score:5 Normal)
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And remember when that first commit was going to be Ron Thompson?

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January 26th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | There are a bunch to choose from (Score:-1 Trolling)
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There are a bunch to choose from....

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:13 PM | Correction....it's Erik (Score:5 Normal)
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Correction....it's Erik Magnuson.  Must be a freudian slip with the inner hope being a commitment from Kevin Garnett.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | Tom's backpedaling on Garnett (Score:1 Normal)
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seems like a fairly bad sign, but I'm admittedly doom-and-gloom about everything.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | I just had hot wings for (Score:1 Normal)
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I just had hot wings for lunch, and my gut isnt feeling it.  I just have a bad feeling about Josh. 

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:18 PM | If Tom has a good backpedal, (Score:5 Normal)
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If Tom has a good backpedal, maybe he can take Reeves's spot when Reeves commits to OSU.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:24 PM | He may have good backpedal, (Score:1)
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but how are his hips?

"Why would you ask a dumb question like that?"  -Lloyd Carr

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January 26th, 2012 at 4:36 PM | Arm Length (Score:2 Normal)
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Tom, needs to work on his arm length if he wants to make it to the next level.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:40 PM | Mags, are you calling your (Score:2)
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Mags, are you calling your shot?  Do you know something we don't?

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:42 PM | Bravo (Score:2 Normal)
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That's comedy, right there.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:48 PM | Tom has backpedaled on his backpedal (Score:2 Normal)
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He has no idea what is going to happen

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:26 PM | Agreed (Score:1)
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Given Tom was only saying he had a very good feeling about Garnett, without even "officially" predicting him to go Blue, the need to backpedal suggests that he's heard he's staying local.

 

Which might also explain why Diamond is looking more likely all of a sudden.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:27 PM | but nobody has heard anything (Score:4 Normal)
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but nobody has heard anything from garnett, so any backpedaling is created by the author, not the recruit.

As of last night's interview with the aquaman he said he had not made up his mind. what is there to glean from a statement like that?

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:44 PM | McGary said he hadn't made up his mind (Score:4 Normal)
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the night before his announcement either.  It didn't make it true.  

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:35 PM | I wonder if that is why (Score:2 Normal)
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I wonder if that is why Diamond isn't announcing until after NSD -- so he can see where all the other chips have landed before committing himself.

 

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:18 PM | A generic three-star (Score:5 Normal)
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A generic three-star defensive lineman? That doesn't sound anything like Dorial Green-Beckham or Stefon Diggs. You better check your sources again, Brian.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:19 PM | You just KNOW (Score:2)
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There's a mystery guy. I'd bet more than one.

And I can't help but wonder how many calls are being made this afternoon from Washtenaw County to young men previously thinking of relocating to Piscataway...?

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:40 PM | Rutgers (Score:1)
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Mike Farrell @rivalsmike

OL Chris Muller, #Rutgers commitment, has been contacted already by #Michigan, #SouthCarolina and #Virginia today.

 

Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:44 PM | Very interesting (Score:2)
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And not the 3* DL that Brian referenced. How many mysteries are there!?

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:21 PM | Greg Kuhar (Score:2 Normal)
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I think the mystery recruit is Greg Kuhar...there was a little bit of interest early. And he's teammates with Kalis and Grant.

 

Pierre Aka and Alex Pace are two other DLmen committed to BCS Schools that have had interest from UM in the past.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:48 PM | That seems the most likely guess (Score:2 Normal)
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given the connection to Kalis and Grant.  Good sleuthing!

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:22 PM | Would Kozan be a candidate for a center position? (Score:1)
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He seems to be closest in size to Stacey, who was destined for a center job.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:43 PM | Yeah Kozan would probably be (Score:1)
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Yeah Kozan would probably be a center for us, he's the best bet of the remaining recruits

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January 26th, 2012 at 4:38 PM | Jack Miller (Score:1)
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People forget about Miller from last year...he could be the center and they could recruit another one next year.

But Kozan would be the first choice...after that it wouldn't shock me if Kalis played center.

The hated Mike Brewster at Ohio was a 5* OT recruit before moving to center so his fellow commits (I want to say Adams and Shugarts) could play tackle.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:23 PM | If I were to guess I'd say we (Score:3 Normal)
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If I were to guess I'd say we get Diamond and Grant. But I'm a pessimist so there's that.

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:24 PM | Hmmm- mystery 3 star DL committed elsewhere? (Score:1)
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That one stumped me.  My first guess was Darryl Goldsmith, but he is only a 2 star on Rivals and Scout and is not committed anywhere yet.

 

Danny O' is obviously a 4 star and it seems that shipped has sailed.  Likewise, Jamal Lyles is a 4 star to both sites.

 

Anyone have a clue who this is?

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:28 PM | 2nd definition below? (Score:2 Funny)
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mys·ter·y 1 

 (mst-r)

n. pl. mys·ter·ies
1. One that is not fully understood or that baffles or eludes the understanding; an enigma: How he got in is a mystery.
2. One whose identity is unknown and who arouses curiosity: The woman in the photograph is a mystery.
3. A mysterious character or quality: a landscape with mystery and charm.
4. A work of fiction, a drama, or a film dealing with a puzzling crime.
5. The skills, lore, or practices that are peculiar to a particular activity or group and are regarded as the special province of initiates. Often used in the plural: the mysteries of Freemasonry; the mysteries of cooking game.
6. A religious truth that is incomprehensible to reason and knowable only through divine revelation.

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