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FL DE Rashad Weaver has decommitted. He's upset after Harbaugh told him there was only a 50/50 shot they'd have a slot for him on Signing Day and will take one of the other D-I offers he received. Weaver visited Temple recently and will be at USF and Illinois in the near future.

Weaver was one of the players we were assuming would not be in the class. Setting a visit to a non power-5 school is almost always a sign that a player committed to Michigan isn't going to get to Signing Day as a commit, and Weaver set that visit way back in November. He clearly had an idea of his status and moved to do something about it.

Still, you'd hope the past couple weeks inform the staff that in the twitter era you'd better do something a little more explicit than not calling for months if you don't want unpleasant public relations flare-ups on the regular.

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growler4

January 25th, 2016 at 10:33 PM ^

Look, handing out a lot of offers does not preclude the staff from clearly and honestly informing these kids of the nature of the offer. Then, not being in contact with a recruit who has verbally committed... How does one justify that?

I'd like for Michigan to win, but not at all costs. Misleading kids, if that's what they're doing, sucks. Forget about the "twitter era". Common decency was around long before twitter and will outlive it.

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westwardwolverine

January 26th, 2016 at 8:47 AM ^

Probably because their fanbases don't give a shit about them doing things way worse than this? They allow kids to get on campus, then force them out afterwards.

Meanwhile, our fanbase and local media make a huge deal about it turning it into a story. Our fanbase and local media literally helps turns non-stories into negative regional and national stories about the program and then wonders why there are negative stories about Michigan out there. 

EVERYONE knew Weaver wasn't ending up in this class. Every single post about recruiting has had Weaver out of the class. I know he's a kid, but are you telling me there isn't an adult anywhere in his life that could have helped him figure this out? 

 

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6tyrone6

January 25th, 2016 at 10:18 PM ^

Harbaugh wasn't exactly sure what would happen this year especially before the season, hence early commitments from solid 3 star guys. After the season worked out etc...he had way more options than last year, I would bet two things, Harbaugh does do a better job communicating (assuming he didn't which I don't think so) and two there will be a few guys upset with him, those getting cut during recruiting, those not getting playing time, and those not getting 5th years. My take he would get a lot more shit for losing next year and beyond than he will for not being able to keep everyone happy during recruiting.

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MFanWM

January 26th, 2016 at 12:55 AM ^

At this point it looks like the excitement of doing the camps brought out some early offers that should have been clearly of the "conditional" or evaluation type vs you can committ to Michigan now. 

While I understand that Harbaugh needs to produce results, my hope would be that in the future, more of these early offers remain clearly and concisely given and that with the large staff now on hand with recruiting coordinators, etc that recruits are given the benefit of continous feedback on their exact status.  One of my old CSMs in the Army shared with me that bad news gets worse with age, and it is very appropriate in these cases.

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alum96

January 26th, 2016 at 3:29 AM ^

I wonder if some of these offers were a public perception thing to show "hey these camps are working".

But yes as the guy below your post says it is not changing - Jim is going to continue to throw out 200+ offers a year.  The difference has to be in what he acceps - the "conditional offers" won't stop but the "real offers we'll accept immediately if you say yes" need to.

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AnthonyThomas

January 25th, 2016 at 10:09 PM ^

http://mgoblog.com/content/hello-rashad-weaver

Quote from Weaver about his scholarship offer: "I started camp at the D-end, and went all the way through all the drills and the one-on-ones, winning those," he explained. "Then with like 10 minutes left, they pulled me over to tight end one-on-ones, and I did four routes and caught a couple balls. They told me they like me at both positions and they're recruiting me as just a big athlete. Possibly even both ways at the next level.

"A couple days later I was sitting on the couch, and Coach [Jay] had asked me something. I don't remember what I responded, but he said, 'how would you feel if I told you that you have a full scholarship offer to the University of Michigan?' I told him that I was sitting there smiling like a little kid that just got a whole bunch of candy. He said again when I got off the phone with them that they like me on both sides."

 

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Hail Harbo

January 25th, 2016 at 10:15 PM ^

Well, except for your insinuation.  Try putting on your reading comprehension hat, where does it say he received an official scholarship offer?  

I'll help you, it doesn't.  Two more points, official offers couldn't go out before August 1, 2015 and point two, Jay Harbaugh can't make official offers, only Jim Harbaugh can do that.

Why do you and so many others feel it necessary to think the absolute worst from Coach Harbaugh?  It's almost like you want him to set himself up for failure.

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AnthonyThomas

January 25th, 2016 at 10:26 PM ^

 If you don't want others disparaging your views, then stop insinuating that the kid is dishonest. Did Weaver handle this perfectly? Nope. But stop acting like the coaching staff is 100% absolved from having a part in creating a bad situation.

"Why do you and so many others feel it necessary to think the absolute worst from Coach Harbaugh?  It's almost like you want him to set himself up for failure."

Get a grip for fuck's sake. 

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Hail Harbo

January 25th, 2016 at 10:35 PM ^

In fact I'm the one taking him at his word.  In a venacular you might understand, read what he fuckin' wrote.  Never once has he said he had in his possesion a written scholarship offer and never once did he say an type of scholarhsip offer, written or verbal, was withdrawn.  What he did say is that he was offered to be Prefered Walk On or to Gray shirt.  He further stated that he believed those options weren't worthy of his abilities and so withdrew his commitment.

Seriously, if you believe repeating what the young man said is disparaging, your beef is with him, not me.

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g_dubya

January 25th, 2016 at 11:08 PM ^

He was offered a full scholarship during the summer by Jay Harbaugh.  He was told maybe in November that he might not have that and that he could be a PWO or gray shirt.

I get that you are playing a technicality on Jay not being able to offer a full scholarship or the silly 'official offers couldn't go out before August 1, 2015'.  I bet a lot of guys that Michigan is recruiting were offered full scholarships by someone other than Jim Harbaugh before August 1st and they all believe those were real offers.  

I don't have a huge problem with the way it's going down.  I do hope Jim Harbaugh cleans it up a little in the future.  But, your defense of this situation is not based in reality. 

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Reader71

January 25th, 2016 at 11:25 PM ^

Why are you slandering Jay Harbaugh so much? If what you are insinuating is true, that Jay never offered the kid a scholarship, that his words can only be taken literally, that he was really just asking Weaver what he would think if he was yo get a scholarship offer, Jay Harbaugh is the biggest piece of shit in the coaching ranks. Think of the implications of your 'defense' of Jay. They make him a monster, or at best a huge troll. "Psych! JK, bro. Go to Temple. You should have seen the look on your face!"

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Reader71

January 26th, 2016 at 2:40 AM ^

I would rather not believe that Harbaugh has been dishonest. I would love it! But the facts don't allow me to. He did this stuff at Stanford. He seems to have done it with Swenson and Weaver. And Spath also said that he did it with Enis and another kid, although that has been the only report about those two. As for Weaver's defense, I don't think he was dishonest at all. I think you are trying really hard to imply anything in my comments about Weaver. Its a bad argument. Weaver never said that Harbaugh didn't pull his scholarship, only that he isn't garbage and that he knows what he is doing. It is perfectly conceivable that Weaver is like some others in this thread - he thinks Harbaugh did him wrong, but he feels Harbaugh is justified for any number of reasons.

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HL2VCTRS

January 25th, 2016 at 10:05 PM ^

How would you suggest we only offer kids that we are 100% sure on? Should we just hold spots until signing day for those that don't commit and then eat the scholarships? We have to offer more than we have spots for or we won't even fill classes. The downside of having a better year, a good coach, etc. is that we are able to get recruits that were offered but we may not have thought would accept.

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WestSider

January 25th, 2016 at 10:39 PM ^

I thinik people need to stop complaining and consider things in its proper context. JH is a savvy coach and recruiter. A kid who continues to take visits cannot claim to be jilted. And a kid (Swenson) who refuses to present himself for proper evaluation cannot make a mishandling case against UM. I thought we all wanted JH to come in and kick ass and take names, bring Michigan back to football prominence? The bitching on this blog is puzzling.

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Reader71

January 25th, 2016 at 10:53 PM ^

False dichotomy. Framing the issue poorly. They can offer 1000 kids, although I wouldn't like it. They should only accept commitments from kids they are sure on. They should be 100% open and honest about what sort of offer they are making. And then when the kid commits, treat him like a committed kid. Save his spot. First come, first served. Put another way: it's is true that no one only offers the 20-30 kids they ultimately take. But no one seems to do what we are doing either. This class is going to look way different than it did one month ago. It's pretty unprecedented anywhere, much less at Michigan. Everyone has some attrition, but we are looking at double digits.

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