Home
we had subs it was crazy

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • 2013 Offer Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • 2013 Recruiting Board
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Block
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Archive

  • May 2013 (48)
  • April 2013 (94)
  • March 2013 (104)
  • February 2013 (81)
  • January 2013 (93)
  • December 2012 (74)
  • November 2012 (142)
  • October 2012 (143)
  • September 2012 (107)
  • August 2012 (103)
  •  
  • 1 of 11
  • ››

Get Yer Tickets

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • A Cynical Take on Why Expansion May be Dead for the Forseeable Future
    maizeonblueaction - 19 hours ago
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 1 day ago
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 1 day ago
  • UMich NFL draft history, Part III
    blueheron - 2 days ago
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 4 days ago
  •  
  • 1 of 4
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 5-15-13
    Ace - 1,542 views
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 792 views
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 691 views
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 663 views
  • UMich NFL draft history, Part III
    blueheron - 658 views
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 4-30-13
    Ace - 81 comments
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 5-15-13
    Ace - 51 comments
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 18 comments
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 15 comments
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 12 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • BTN Tourney Baseball
    3 replies
  • OT: I love High School football
    22 replies
  • OT? Graduatin' Season. Who had the Worst Commencement Speaker?
    68 replies
  • 2015 QB Josh Rosen offered
    28 replies
  • Charles Woodson signs with Raiders
    37 replies
  • (Ole Miss) Hugh Freeze seems to be claiming BCS titles now
    42 replies
  • OT: NBA Draft Lottery
    69 replies
  • Complete 2013-14 M Hockey scheduled revealed
    28 replies
  • How much do you really hate ohio?
    128 replies
  • Our footballs are made in the USA but not in Ohio
    28 replies
  • Gardner updates the recovery of Fitz & Countess
    39 replies
  • OT-Two new Wolverine Fans have joined us (UPDATED WITH PHOTOS FROM TONIGHT)
    66 replies
  • Pizza Pizza Bowl Fires Back!
    27 replies
  • Are TV sets the only reason for RU and MD?
    53 replies
  • Rivals 250 notes
    57 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • Our footballs are made in the USA but not in Ohio
    28 replies
  • OT - Kickstarter opportunity to create new college football video game
    46 replies
  • ESPN: Trey Burke Articles/Video/Fluff/Etc.
    13 replies
  • 5 star 2013 DT may not be enrolling at Notre Dame
    82 replies
  • Detroit Lions to start new bowl pitting Big Ten vs. ACC in 2014
    45 replies
  • OT: End of Drew and Mike on 101WRIF
    40 replies
  • ESPN: Michigan BBall article featuring GRIII.
    6 replies
  • Arkansas QB Mitchell to NC State
    24 replies
  • Shane Morris signed pylon on ebay
    46 replies
  • Trey Burke Combine Measurements & Comparable Players
    28 replies
  • Prayers for Moore, Oklahoma
    112 replies
  • OT- Miguel (not that Miguel) kicks fan in head at Billboard Music Awards
    57 replies
  • OT: Real Estate / Renting / Land Contract gurus
    42 replies
  • OT: Guy pretends to be All American for Ohio...gets busted
    46 replies
  • OT: Georgia Tech is Also Bad at Photoshop
    28 replies
  • ‹‹
  • 2 of 7
  • ››
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 3 Open Thread
    203 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs. Blackhawks Open Thread
    201 replies
  • Jabrill Peppers Announcement Date Set
    169 replies
  • How much do you really hate ohio?
    128 replies
  • UM 2014 Conf schedule football
    123 replies
  • Brandon on Uniformzzz
    119 replies
  • Speight and TomVH on Peppers
    116 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    114 replies
  • Prayers for Moore, Oklahoma
    112 replies
  • Alex Bars to Notre Dame
    96 replies
  • 5 star 2013 DT may not be enrolling at Notre Dame
    82 replies
  • ESPN 30 for 30 on the Bad Boys
    77 replies
  • Michigan Softball vs. Cal Open Thread
    75 replies
  • Michigan has #1 recruiting class on ESPN now.
    73 replies
  • OT: Advice on moving to Ann Arbor
    72 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • Former Arkansas QB Brandon Mitchell transferring to NC State

    so much for that

    0 comments
  • The B1G List: Ranking the State Fossils of the Big Ten

    This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.

    0 comments
  • Trey Burke turns to inner circle to prepare for NBA draft

    will be michigan's highest pick in a while

    2 comments
  • B1G assistant coach salaries on the rise

    money has to go somewhere

    0 comments
  • Tim Hardaway Jr. is motivated by his critics and doubters, and supremely confident in his ability

    I am only motivated by people who have no opinion about me.

    0 comments
  • Big Ten football procrastinates on parity-based scheduling, and nothing ever changes

    the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection

    1 comments
  • Michigan's Glenn Robinson III, Mitch McGary ranked inside top 20 on ESPN's 2014 draft board

    but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?

    1 comments
  • Tim Hardaway Jr. turning heads, viewed as a first-rounder by some teams, analyst says

    If you're gonna go please be in the first round.

    0 comments
  • Michigan-Ohio State once, Indiana-Purdue once? The Big Ten has to protect its hoops rivalries

    another delightful side effect of a 14 team conference

    0 comments
  • Beilein on transfers: All should have to sit a year, regardless of situation

    I disagree.

    0 comments
  • Julie Hermann takes over as Rutgers AD, won't try to spend like Michigan

    GOOD PLAN

    2 comments
  • Jay Harris says no to Michigan State, decides to become a rapper

    hahahahaha

    0 comments
  • The Difference Between A Good Fan And A Bad Fan

    thoughtful piece from Jacobi on middle finger lady

    3 comments
  • Michigan's rising recruiting profile exciting John Beilein, who remains true to his scouting form

    Their high school coaches and AAU coaches have probably a better appreciation of Michigan than maybe they had before," Beilein said. "It's a tough balance right now. Tim Hardaway and Trey Burke weren't really high-profile players, nor was Darius Morris, and all were high-profile players. "We're still looking at 'who is the best fit.' "

    0 comments
  • Charles Barkley discusses Michael Jordan, Dream Team and more - NBA - Jack McCallum - SI.com

    "When I call somebody a midget, clearly I'm not trying to insult f---ing midgets. I'm just using basketball terminology."

    0 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

Punt-Counterpunt: Air Force 2012

By Brian — September 8th, 2012 at 10:29 AM — 18 comments
Filed under:
  • 2012 air force
  • punt counterpunt

The-Big-House-2010[1]

Something's been missing from Michigan gamedays since the free programs ceased being economically viable: scientific gameday predictions that are not at all preordained by the strictures of a column in which one writer takes a positive tack and the other a negative one. Something like… Punt-Counterpunt.

Ken_thumb7PUNT

By Ken “Sky” Walker
9/8/12

By Labor Day, I had pretty much put last Saturday’s debacle behind me. There was a time when I would obsess over a Michigan loss all week long. I’ve learned over the years to kick all that angst to the curb. I’m way beyond having my mood be affected by a Wolverine win or loss. After all, this is just a game played by kids, right?

I’d taken Tuesday off to extend the weekend. The extra day off didn’t help. It having been a holiday on Monday, every sports news outlet had the Alabama game as its lead story Tuesday. College Football Live, PTI, Around the Horn, and Jim Rome Is Burning—I’ll admit to watching them all—rehashed that nightmare over and over. I finally decided to go outdoors to take a walk, which is somewhat of a novelty for me on a non-football Saturday, in an effort to get away from the talking heads. By the end of the day, I was looking forward to returning to work.

It’s Wednesday and I’m back at the office. I venture down the hall and I’m greeted by a coworker—"Hey Ken! What happened to your boys?!" I find myself sucked into a lengthy conversation revolving around what Denard did, didn’t, or was allowed to do; Borges’s game plan or lack thereof. Is Gardner going to stay at wide out? Would having Fitz in the backfield made a difference? What happened to the defense? I ended up having similar conversations during the course of the day. By now I’m totally immersed in dissecting this game and what it means for the rest of the season.

On Thursday a young woman who just occupied the office down the hall pokes her head in. She spies my Go Blue mug and exclaims "A Michigan fan! Wouldn’t it be great if all the offices in this hall were tricked out in Michigan gear?" I point out that all the pins in my press board are maize or blue. She laughs and continues on her way. I’m struck by the fact that I pointed out to an attractive young woman that I’ve deliberately disposed of all the green and red pins and use only the maize - ah, yellow - and blue ones. OMG! I’ve become one of those Old Michigan Geezers!

I am neither obsessed nor depressed. I am aware that Air Force cannot win this game today. No amount of poor tackling, stagnant offense, or turnovers could possibly cause the Wolverines to lose to an academy team. But I can’t pick Michigan to blow them out either.

MICHIGAN 27, Air Force 24

DSC00045_thumb6COUNTERPUNT

By Nick RouMel
9/8/12

I am so glad Punt and I didn’t go down to the Cowboy Classic. I was looking forward to that party all year, but it ended a bit like “Project X.” It was not only like having the host steal your girlfriend, but then having her post on Facebook that you were nothing but a “Minute Man” anyway.

Oh, wait, that’s next week’s opponent (UMass). This Saturday we face Air Force. The mighty Falcons averaged 35 points a game last year, and opened this season by laying waste to Matt Gutierrez’ alma mater, Idaho State. Yes, like last week’s rude party host, they can score. But unlike Alabama, they do not have professional athletes on their squad, merely crackerjack trained U.S. military personnel. Thus they are vulnerable to a Michigan squad with something to prove.

Was last week’s debacle a product of bad coaching or execution? I learned from MGoBlog’s play-by-play analysis that the problem was not so much poor play, as simply being manhandled by a superior team. Air Force is a welcome respite from that mugging. Compared to ‘Bama, the Falcons are tiny. Their largest offensive lineman is a gaunt 260 lbs., and their defense is prone to being porous.

Expect Michigan to have a field day in the Big House. Denard will be on target, Devin will run better routes, and Fitz is back from the Dog House. The party that didn’t happen last week will rock Ann Arbor. The Wolverines are favored by 21.5 points for a reason. That reason is that the oddsmakers are smoking crack. Oh wait, I mean it’s because we’re going to win by at least three touchdowns! Up and down the field we will run. Touchdowns we will score. And this week, no one steals our girl.

MICHIGAN 45, AIR FORCE 21

  • Login or register to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
September 8th, 2012 at 10:37 AM | Sounds like Ken needs a new job. (Score:1 Normal)
M-Wolverine
M-Wolverine's picture
Joined: 10/04/2009
MGoPoints: 38797

And note to self: never visit Nick's Facebook page.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 10:41 AM | Having hot chicks down the (Score:2)
bobmurph
bobmurph's picture
Joined: 09/01/2009
MGoPoints: 1560

Having hot chicks down the hall who also happen to be Michigan fans sounds like a favorable work environment to me.

Beats the hell out of Sparty cooler poopers.

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 10:44 AM | Sounds like he's in an office of a majority non-Michigan fans (Score:1 Normal)
M-Wolverine
M-Wolverine's picture
Joined: 10/04/2009
MGoPoints: 38797

And he's already come off as "old board geek" to the one hot Michigan fan.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

  • Login or register to post comments
September 9th, 2012 at 9:04 AM | Old Board Geek? (Score:1)
Michigasling
Michigasling's picture
Joined: 11/21/2009
MGoPoints: 3279

I beg to differ.  That was not the young lady's opinion, but the sensitive concern of a wise and mature man, evidenced by both his writing and his attachment to Michigan.  (This is assuming the mug and the stick-pins were the classy but subtle reminder of his affections and that he wasn't wearing a "Worst State Ever" T-shirt as well.) 

His assessment of the game and final score was also more accurate. 

  • Login or register to post comments
September 9th, 2012 at 2:13 PM | I think I saw that (Score:1)
M-Wolverine
M-Wolverine's picture
Joined: 10/04/2009
MGoPoints: 38797

On Cinemax After Dark once.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 10:44 AM | Wait a minute... (Score:1)
MAZandBLUE
MAZandBLUE's picture
Joined: 10/26/2011
MGoPoints: 375

Sky Walker states "I am aware that Air Force cannot win this game today" and then predicts just a 3 point win for UM?



Color me confused...

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 10:46 AM | One has to be negative...but not insane. (Score:2 Normal)
M-Wolverine
M-Wolverine's picture
Joined: 10/04/2009
MGoPoints: 38797

Though you do illustrate we had Sky Walker talking about the Force.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 11:08 AM | Crazier things have happened... (Score:2)
GoWings2008
GoWings2008's picture
Joined: 01/26/2011
MGoPoints: 1453

...but I fully expect UM to win handily.  Growing up a UM fan, but an AFA grad, I'm deeply conflicted.  My heart is spilt between my childhood favorite team and the place where I shed blood, sweat and tears.  My head will break the tie and say UM should win by about 14 to 17 pts.  I think it could be worse, but Hoke has too much respect for AFA, not just because he has history playing them.  

After the game however, I'll be glad that UM has rebounded to become 1-1.  Looking forward to the game watching with my dad, a 1947 UM graduate.'

Edit:  For any of you going to the game, watch and listen (if they somehow end up doing this) but the AF players and the AF section may stand and sing the third verse of the AF song, a tradition after every game, honoring the fallen Airmen thoroughout the years.  It's pretty cool to see.

The Team, The Team, The Team

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 10:54 AM | Query (Score:1)
ChalmersE
Joined: 11/19/2008
MGoPoints: 1068

is it appropriate to call Idaho State Gutierrez' alma mater.  Matt played there, but his degree is from the University of Michigan.  Indeed, he's been in some promotional videos produced by the Admissions Department.

P.S.  I get that the reference was in jest.

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 11:12 AM | Viva Punt-Counterpunt! (Score:2)
Callahan
Callahan's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 1958

Viva Punt-Counterpunt!

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 11:37 AM | Michigan-35 Air Force-17 (Score:2)
BlueBarron
BlueBarron's picture
Joined: 06/21/2010
MGoPoints: 2944

Michigan-35
Air Force-17

Photography Facebook Page. Lots of Michigan sports photos. And planes, lots of planes:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Barron-Photography/13379

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 11:50 AM | Good notes by both.... (Score:0 Redundant)
cigol
Joined: 11/21/2010
MGoPoints: 345

But how can Ken say that there is no chance of Air Force winning, but only pick Michigan to win by 3?  Almost any game that is within 3 points is a coin flip at some point late.

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 12:20 PM | 52-24 Michigan It will be (Score:2)
BornInAA
BornInAA's picture
Joined: 11/21/2009
MGoPoints: 3668

52-24 Michigan

It will be close early, with our newish DL giving up some TDs.

But as the game goes on, our size advantage will wear them down.

 

 

life is like a box of chocolates... and you got the Whizzo Quality Assortment

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 12:28 PM | Whoa whoa whoa (Score:0 Trolling)
Jack
Jack's picture
Joined: 08/12/2008
MGoPoints: 9

Dusty Baker?

Quasi-sanity in Buckeyeland...

  • Login or register to post comments
September 9th, 2012 at 10:07 PM | claiming you were right about so much (Score:3 Normal)
Jon06
Jon06's picture
Joined: 09/19/2009
MGoPoints: 2092

when you weren't makes you a troll

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

  • Login or register to post comments
September 8th, 2012 at 2:31 PM | 42-17 MichiganWith a TD each (Score:2)
Blue since birth
Joined: 12/24/2009
MGoPoints: 1076

42-17 Michigan

With a TD each coming in garbage time.

We'll see Bellomy by mid/late 3rd quarter. Fitz will have 150+ by the half. Big game for Jake Ryan and Kovacs... And BWC.

  • Login or register to post comments
Powered by Pressflow, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.