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Pryor received improper benefits

Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 4:10 PM
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Pryor received improper benefits

Great investigative work by the Columbus Dispatch reveals how OSU uses "student privacy" to block journalists from getting info on NCAA violations, specifically which athletes are involved.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/05/31/FERPA...

Check out the last paragraph, where they talk about a recruit who received improper benefits during a 2007 recruiting visit. Without listing Pryor's name, they say he was "a freshman last year" and "was recruited by quarterbacks coach Joe Daniels."

Um...any thoughts on who that might be? Let the floodgates open...

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 4:30 PM #1
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Every football

player from Ohio State receives improper benefits. The only two players that Daniels had that year was Pryor and a LB.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 4:42 PM #2
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LOL YEAAAHHH

O$$$$$$U!!111 HAHAHAH CHEATERS!!11 ONLY SUCKEYES RECEIVE IMPROPER BENEFITS!!!! OUR WOLVERINES ARE CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN!!!

I said - not good enough.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 4:44 PM #3
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good work

way to get your first point.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:01 PM #4
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dude..how have you already

dude..how have you already amassed 62 points?

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:21 PM #5
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I was just about to ask that

I was just about to ask that myself

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:22 PM #6
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Hold an OT open thread about soccer....

........and be the only person posting throughout the Champions League final...

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 6:48 PM #7
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I'm in agreement with Huss,

I'm in agreement with Huss, here. Does anyone honestly think that none of our recruits or players have ever received a $50 handshake by someone connected to UofM or have had a few free meals thrown their way?

"I'm Leslie E. Miles and I approve of this message."

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 6:49 PM #8
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I'm pretty sure...

it just means that it is his first post since the new "points sytem" was put in place.

But I could be wrong.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 7:10 PM #9
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Yep, you're right. That's why

Yep, you're right. That's why edited my orihinal post.

"I'm Leslie E. Miles and I approve of this message."

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:17 PM #10
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Yeah we are. See: The

Yeah we are.

See: The Michigan Basketball program 1991-2006.

Kittens help make the pain go away.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:37 PM #11
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Gotta love

the glass house and how people so quickly forget the fab 5.

Violations or not, just beat them RR.

GO BLUE!

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 6:53 PM #12
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Seconded?
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Posted on: June 1st, 2009 at 2:17 AM #13
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Hilarious

"that's crappy behavior."

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 4:33 PM #14
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dont jump to conclusions

too fast. Every program has a position coach thats responsible for a certain part of the country because they lived there, know something about the area that a recruit lives in, or knows high school coaches in that area very well. Just because he was recruited by the QB coach doesnt mean that it was a QB.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 4:42 PM #15
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I'll jump to conclusions.....

....

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=43028

Terrelle Pryor = recruited by Joe Daniels, per Rivals.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 4:49 PM #16
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Joe Daniels appears to

Joe Daniels appears to recruit PA and OH. In other words, it could be any freshman from one of the two states.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 4:54 PM #17
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Not really

There are many players from Ohio not attached to Daniels. The only two players he is connected to are from PA: Tyrelle Pryor and Andrew Sweat. And Sweat was recruited by both Daniels and Luke Fickell.

http://ohiostate.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?sport=1&school=56&year=2008#p...

The only player recruited SOLELY by Daniels was Pryor.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:00 PM #18
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is says 'Pryor Pryor'?

it says 'Pryor Pryor'?

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:26 PM #19
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Yeah, weird.

Yeah, weird.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:00 PM #20
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double

double

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Posted on: June 1st, 2009 at 10:07 AM #21
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Click Joe Daniels' Name

It comes up that he recruited Pryor and a LB named Andrew Sweat. That means, yeah, it could be that TP is guilty, but maybe this Sweat fellow is the guilty one.

Hail! To the Conquering Heroes!

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:14 PM #22
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This would make my week if it

This would make my week if it was Pryor. I highly dislike him.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:35 PM #23
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What about

What about Michigan. Where's Michigan at on this list? If OSU is #1 on the list of cheaters, where's the maize & blue?

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 5:54 PM #24
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Why not...

stay on point? The article details the secrecy of trangressions at tuos...buckeye?

Maize & Blue...nothing better!

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 6:15 PM #25
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Or how about we stop

Or how about we stop obsessing about every little $158 infraction? This was reported to the NCAA, and resolved. It's over.

No program, including ours, is 100% clean. Lets stop shrieking about an impossibly small transgression - it makes it seem like we're trying to rationalize getting our ass handed to us for 5 consecutive years.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 6:43 PM #26
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"-it...

makes it seem like we're trying to rationalize getting our ass handed to us for 5 consecutive years."

No. It doesn't...since he only actually played us once.

If the alleged tansgression happened at Michigan, I would fully expect (and have no problem) with our rivals pointing it out, and having a little fun at our expense.

The good news is: I no longer have to wonder what happened to chitownblue.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 7:03 PM #27
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I could be wrong, but this thread kind of did it for me

http://mgoblog.com/content/uc-systemic-problem

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 7:05 PM #28
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I tend to agree.

Losing has led some to co-op the dreaded *inferiority complex* with our rival. Myself...these things run in cycles. I've lived long enough to witness Michigan time after time dismantle tuos,ranked or unranked. Our turn to *flip the script* just around the corner. I wonder if they have a pill for those who suffer from this syndrome?

However,I just visit the Mgoblog vault and picked up this little diddy...

Just sayin...

http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/who-is-ted-sarniak.html

Maize & Blue...nothing better!

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 7:33 PM #29
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I forgot

Pryor "worked" at Sarniak's factory and had a corvette. This is why I think there's more to this story than $158.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 7:22 PM #30
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Not obsessing

Just thought it was interesting info that I had not heard before. I don't think $158 is a major deal. But it's interesting to know that a violation was identified. That was new information to me. Were you aware of that info before this article?

Also, often with these things, the violations that actually get reported are just the tip of the iceberg. And as a Michigan fan, I am intrigued that the Columbus Dispatch is trying to scratch below the surface.

Since cliches have taken over this thread (glass houses, tip of the iceberg), it's only appropriate to say: "Where there's smoke..."

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 6:02 PM #31
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"The football player received

"The football player received a special, discounted hotel rate and free food while visiting Ohio State."

Free food? So, wait, can you feed them BBQ? The rulebook couldn't be more confusing if it were written in Swahili by someone who doesn't know Swahili.

Blogging the once-resurgent Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 6:12 PM #32
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That's why there are

That's why there are compliance officers.

You can hate on me all you want to, but what can you possibly say to somebody that looks like Rambo, pretty much, with his shirt off?

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Posted on: June 1st, 2009 at 9:27 AM #33
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Dang

Please tell me it's something more serious than a kid getting a free meal and a grrrreat deal on a hotel room. I was hoping for the worst.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 7:17 PM #34
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CHIPS?

CHIPS?

No question, Jim.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 7:20 PM #35
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CHIPS!

CHIPS!

No question, Jim.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 7:39 PM #36
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Is this the part in the movie

where we're all supposed to be "shocked"? Gee, I guess so.

The truth is, this kind of behavior is so widespread in college football recruiting, it's just not news. Hundreds of schools do it, and probably several Big Ten schools as well.

I know this must be news to some people too, but here it goes: investigative journalism is dead in the U.S.
This is because there's simply no pay off for investigative journalism anymore.

You simply can't shock or outrage a society of sports fans that have observed things like Switzer, Bonds, Clemens and Neuheisel. The days of the frog marches and public disgrace are so over.

Nobody cares.

Now, when is "American Idol" on?

Markusr2007
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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 8:17 PM #37
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Beg to differ

The fact that you (and society) are not fazed by investigative reports does not mean investigative journalism is dead. To the contrary, I think the Internet/blogosphere (where every strand of sports minutiae is examined and commented upon) is only going to boost the leaking of program crippling information.

Think investigative journalism is dead? Talk to a USC sports fan. Or a Memphis basketball fan. Or a UConn basketball fan. Or Barry Bonds.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 8:27 PM #38
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so widespread

Any numbers out there, on how many trips the NCAA has made to Ann Arbor to investigate the FOOTBALL PROGRAM?

When Bo and Lloyd spoke of running a clean program it was just lip service.

Just because Tressle had all kinds of NCAA violations at Youngstown State doesn't mean that he'd be doing the same things at Ohio State.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 7:39 PM #39
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Is this the part in the movie

where we're all supposed to be "shocked"? Gee, I guess so.

The truth is, this kind of behavior is so widespread in college football recruiting, it's just not news. Hundreds of schools do it, and probably several Big Ten schools as well.

I know this must be news to some people too, but here it goes: investigative journalism is dead in the U.S.
This is because there's simply no pay off for investigative journalism anymore.

You simply can't shock or outrage a society of sports fans that have observed things like Switzer, Bonds, Clemens and Neuheisel. The days of the frog marches and public disgrace are so over.

Nobody cares.

Now, when is "American Idol" on?

Markusr2007
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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 8:08 PM #40
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the point ...

... isn't "Oh look at what Ohio State does that nobody else does ... just OSU and USC." nor is it ... "why we'd never." The thing about the atricle is that it is 357 (i dont rmember the number exactly) transgressions since 2000 and Fla only was in the 100s. Are there some transgressions that are not going to get reported? Sure, but then there are going to be transgressions at OSU not reported. they have the most reported violations out of any BCS bowl school. If you went on to read the entire article there were much bigger violations than $158.

the article is not about how widespread it is in the NCAA. The article is about how widespread it is at OSU.

These are the kinds of things I like to hear with my dad being an OSU grad and living in Dayton, Ohio.

Oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh Here comes the ban hammer.

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Posted on: June 1st, 2009 at 2:21 AM #41
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Word

"the article is not about how widespread it is in the NCAA. The article is about how widespread it is at OSU."

My point exactly.

Obviously $158 is not newsworthy. But the total # of infractions should definitely be ringing alarms. "Lack of institutional control" anyone?

And I only mention Pryor because he's the highest profile guy on campus right now and I think it's interesting that he's involved. Period.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 8:08 PM #42
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oh...

... and American Idol is over. The straight guy won.

Oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh Here comes the ban hammer.

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Posted on: June 1st, 2009 at 12:20 AM #43
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I don't watch American idol

I don't watch American idol ...
There are straight guys???

Good Luck in the NFL Stevie!!!

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 8:22 PM #44
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We could all use some

We could all use some improper benefits from a friend if you know what I mean.

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Posted on: June 1st, 2009 at 2:25 AM #45
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Awww yeeeahh

Who doesn't dream of a committee coming over to their place and investigating their business.

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 9:39 PM #46
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obsessed

Michigan fans need to stop obsessing.

obsessed = days since last victory billboards

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Posted on: May 31st, 2009 at 10:43 PM #47
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well

apparently you're not a Michigan fan.

Oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh Here comes the ban hammer.

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Posted on: June 1st, 2009 at 3:15 PM #48
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I harbor absolutely no

I harbor absolutely no illusions that we're a squeaky-clean program, but that won't stop me from laughing my ass off if Pryor gets ruled ineligible. (Although realistically, this will probably just earn him a suspension of a couple games.)

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