Preview: Ohio State Comment Count

Brian

hate_week_wolverineEssentials

WHAT Michigan vs Ohio State
WHERE Ohio Stadium, Columbus, OH
WHEN Noon Eastern, November 27th 2010
THE LINE OSU -17
TELEVISION National on ABC
WEATHER Mostly sunny, mid 30s
0% chance of rain

Image at right via reader Brian Walline.

Run Offense vs. Ohio State

You know, from skimming the Ohio State blogs in my reader I'd picked up a narrative of safety injuries and a somewhat disappointing performance from the defensive line that led me to believe the OSU defense was something less than its usual self. Then I go and check the stats as I do and they're third in rushing and total defense. They are fifth in pass defense. This is nationally, not in conference. So… not so much.

As anyone who's followed the Gordon Gee-Boise/TCU spat knows, a weak schedule has something to do with that. OSU has not played the Big Ten's #1, #4, or #5 offense and is the #2 offense.. They've had almost the kindest league schedule possible to date. However, in their matchup against #3 Wisconsin the Badgers only managed 330-some yards of offense; Iowa was held under 300. Do not be taken in by complaints about Orhian Johnson or fretting about freshman Christian Bryant—this is a smokescreen.

The sack-excluded numbers in the league (minus Indiana, which didn't seem even slightly relevant) reflect this:

Opponent Att Yards TD YPC
Illinois 33 136 1 4.1
Wisconsin 43 184 3 4.3
Purdue 24 52 0 2.2
Minnesota 26 103 1 4.0
Penn State 32 113 0 3.5
Iowa 23 97 1 4.2

College teams average 4.9 yards an attempt when you take out sacks; Ohio State has been somewhere between good and ridiculous through the Big Ten. This is not a huge surprise given the overall numbers.

Michigan's rushing offense is almost as shiny in the national stats at tenth. They have four triple option teams ahead of them—on a YPC basis they're fourth nationally. The last couple weeks opponents have really truly dared Denard Robinson to throw by putting a linebacker over the slot receiver and moving their safeties up into the box (Purdue) or just outside of it (Wisconsin). Rain and a crappy half for Robinson (plus a worse one for the defense) allowed both opponents to get away with their hyper-aggressive defenses. In the second half Robinson started hitting receivers who found themselves in single coverage deep and Michigan ripped off touchdowns on four of five drives, with the fifth headed inside the Wisconsin twenty before a Roundtree drop led to the inevitable batted-ball-to-INT combo.

There are risks involved with going so aggressive, especially when your safeties are indeed injury-plagued and young, and it doesn't seem like Tressel's style to go damn-the-torpedoes. It doesn't look like he'll have to, anyway, with those numbers above. I predicted Wisconsin would back off and Michigan's run game would bounce back. The former definitely didn't happen and the latter may have looked like it did but that relies heavily on a couple of meaningless draws at the end of the first half. This week, Ohio State probably will back off and it will be something like a fair fight on the ground.

Given OSU's results to date expecting something magnificent is foolhardy. The most relevant game above is probably the Illinois game, in which heavy wind and Nathan Scheelhaase's youth—that was his first Big Ten start—gave the Buckeyes an idea of what was coming before the snap. Michigan does have a better rushing offense than the Illini—they're about eight tenths of a yard to the good—and should provide more threat through the air than Scheelhaase, so you can/should expect something more effective than 4.1 YPC. Hitting 4.5-4.8 seems realistic. They'll need more than that to win, though.

Key Matchup: Denard versus Last Safety To Daylight. Okay, I'll take the bait: if safety is a weakness for the Buckeyes, Michigan might be able to spring a long touchdown on the ground, which would be nice.

orhian-johnson Pass Offense vs. Ohio State

If Orhian Johnson is three times worse than Ohio State fans say he is we've got it in the bag.

Denard Robinson's sustained bout of inaccuracy lasted until halftime of the Wisconsin game, after which he was ruthlessly effective. He hit several downfield passes, picked apart the Wisconsin zone, and landed himself almost 10 YPA by the time the day was over. That's not enough to dismiss the previous three or four games, in which Robinson slew scoring drives by the hundreds* with passes behind or above but rarely in front of open receivers.  It is encouraging. Robinson is in the top 20 in passing efficiency in an offense that throws about 40% of the time. While his legs are a big chunk of that, they are, you know, his legs. He gets opportunities others don't because of them.

Michigan's got some complications, however. Martavious Odoms is done for the year and both other starting wideouts appeared on this week's injury report. It sounds like Darryl Stonum will be good to go, but the perpetually questionable Junior Hemingway is questionable again. Je'Ron Stokes and Jeremy Jackson may get more time than Michigan coaches are comfortable with. Roy Roundtree exists, though, and Michigan can shift its production around without affecting their efficiency too much—usually the choice is not between covering the outside guy and covering Roundtree, but dealing with Robinson and covering Roundtree.

On the other side of the ball, Ohio State fans still manage to sound disappointed in the #7 pass efficiency defense in the country. They are pretty weak at getting to the QB—hardly better than Michigan—and they do have safety issues and they don't have a shutdown corner like they usually do. They've also missed two of the league's best QBs in Kirk Cousins and Dan Persa. Like the rush defense, they haven't played a big chunk of the Big Ten's good passing offenses. They played 1 and 2, but haven't gotten to 3-6 yet. Performance against 1 and 2:

Opponent Att Cmp Yards TD Int YPA
Wisconsin 16 13 152 0 1 9.5
Iowa 31 20 195 1 0 6.3

This just in: Wisconsin's Scott Tolzien. Anyway, that's a bad performance in a game Wisconsin hardly threw in and a pretty good one against Iowa. Everything else is brutal strangulation of doe-eyed innocents and the Jacory Harris Interception Spectacular. There aren't many good comparables for Michigan.

Assuming Tressel plays it low-variance, Michigan won't have a ton of opportunities to hit it deep but this will open up the underneath stuff, especially Roundtree's hitch routes, or more likely a variation on them that Ohio State hasn't scouted to death. We've seen QB Lead Oh Noes disappear over the past few weeks; maybe that can be used to exploit Ohio State's youthful safeties. The last time they ran it they had Martell Webb streaking open for what would have been a touchdown if Martell Webb wasn't pretty slow and the ball wasn't chucked directly at an Illinois safety.

*(This may be a slight exaggeration.)

Key Matchup: Robinson's Accuracy versus That Stuff Whatever That Was. No one has been able to consistently defend the run and pass against Denard, so they've chosen the run and have been right more often than not. Michigan needs two halves like the second against Wisconsin—occasional error, mostly deadly—to have a shot.

boom-herron Run Defense vs. Ohio State

Ohio State doesn't quite have the Badger ground game, with emphasis on "quite". Wisconsin is 12th, Ohio State 17th, with OSU trailing the Badgers by a quarter yard per carry. The main guy is Boom Herron, a compact, powerful runner without a ton of shimmy. He makes a lot of yards by sliding through tackles thanks to his low center of gravity and tree trunk legs. He's not likely to break anything long. He's what Kevin Grady was supposed to be.

Backup Brandon Saine has found himself marginalized as the season goes along. He's a lot like Michael Shaw, combining blazing speed with a lack of tackle-breaking power and a nasty tendency to avoid the intended hole. He's come on as a receiver out of the backfield and in the slot and will probably get a half-dozen carries.

And then there's Pryor, infrequently utilized but wildly effective when deployed. If you take out OSU's sacks he's averaging 8.2(!) YPC on 87(!) attempts this year, numbers that boggle the mind when combined. 87 carries takes the YPC outside the realm of fluke, so… how does a guy averaging 8 yards a carry only get 87 attempts? Tressel, yo. I get the argument you'd like to spare your QB hits against teams with little chance of winning, but Ohio State desperation catchup mode is the spread option. This is frustrating to both Michigan and Ohio State fans.

The script last year against Michigan was similar: OSU came out and ran their I-form "Dave" package with little success most of the day; when Michigan scored to draw within a touchdown out came the spread option. Pryor ran right down the field, touchdown, flood of Michigan interceptions, ballgame. Michigan doesn't have Brandon Graham anymore so the regular package should be more successful than it was last year, hampering Michigan's ability to get the three and outs that kept them in that game.

Key Matchup: Michigan Tacklers versus Herron's Thighs. With Mouton and Demens around it's likely that FBs will be taken on near the LOS and Michigan will have opportunities to get the Buckeyes in long-yardage situations in which Pryor's had some difficulty. One of the many, many problems against Wisconsin was Michigan tacklers not tackling, or giving up two or three yards after contact. That seems like it might be more fixable than Greg Robinson's beaver brain or the incredible youth of everyone. 

Pass Defense vs. Ohio Statepearl-harbor

Terrelle Pryor hasn't exactly developed into the world-beating Vince Young (except better!) imitator he was supposed to be out of high school. Against the good defenses on OSU's schedule he does stuff like this:

Opponent Att Cmp Yards TD Int YPA
Miami 27 12 233 1 0 8.6
Illinois 16 9 76 2 1 4.8
Wisconsin 28 14 156 0 1 5.6
Iowa 33 18 195 1 2 5.9

The other somewhat average pass D on the schedule was Penn State; Pryor threw just 13 times, completing eight.

Unfortunately for Michigan, "good" is nowhere in the conversation when it comes to Michigan's pass defense. They're looking up at "putrid" and hanging out with "fairly good reason to go insane." I think they peed on my couch and tried to sop it up with a handful of crushed Cheetos. I do not mean this as a metaphor.

They're currently idling at 92nd in pass efficiency defense. Pryor's performance against Indiana, Purdue, and Minnesota, the—sigh—closer comparisons for Michigan's crew of befuddled freshman and slow guys:

Opponent Att Cmp Yards TD Int YPA
Indiana 30 24 334 3 0 11.1
Purdue 22 16 270 3 2 12.3
Minnesota 22 18 222 2 1 10.1

Good Lord. Pryor meets a level of defense at which he is suddenly mediocre or worse; below that he is a ruthless bomb-thrower. Adding it all up gives you a quarterback who's 14th in passer efficiency this year and still hasn't had a good game against a real defense.

Pryor's main targets are his outside receivers. Both have around 50 catches, with Dane Sanzenbacher averaging considerably more YPC and has nine touchdowns to Posey's five. The tailbacks and TE Jake Stoneburner are secondary targets, and then there are guys scattered down the roster with the occasional catches. The line's pretty mediocre at pass blocking, giving up almost two sacks a game (59th) despite being 85th nationally in pass attempts.

Even Pryor and the OSU passing game is something of a paper tiger, that fact obviously has no relevance against the Michigan secondary. Scott Tolzein's passes never hit the ground last weekend; Wisconsin went away from the passing game because the run game allowed them to. Amongst the many things the Michigan pass defense cannot do are pressure the quarterback (1.5 sacks per game, 94th), cover receivers (yeesh), tackle, and provide anything more than a slight hindrance to quarterbacks more competent than a rain-soaked Sean Robinson.

Key Matchup: HAHAHAHAHA

Special Teams

OSU's been good with the ball in its returners' hands, solidly above average in punt returns and very good at kick returns. They've been worse than bad in coverage, giving up 12.7 yards a punt return and yielding a touchdown against Miami. Two kickoffs have been returned for touchdowns, too.

The usual story at kicker: OSU's Devin Barclay is 16 of 19, Michigan's blah blah blah. This week I can point out their proficiency at onside kicks, though.

Key Matchup: STOP KICKING THE DAMN BALL

Intangibles

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Cheap Thrills

Worry if...

  • OSU aligns in the spread, the formation in which Terrelle Pryor is actually quite effective.
  • OSU aligns in the I.
  • Robinson inaccuracy allows yet more creepin' on the run game.

(Site note: Jebus. One of the "worry ifs" from last week was "Scott Tolzien completes every pass he throws.")

Cackle with knowing glee if...

  • Orhian Johnson turns out to be a true freshman two star.
  • Denard goes back to his UConn form.
  • Ohio State's years-long defiance of karmic comeuppance goes supernova.

Fear/Paranoia Level: 10 (Baseline 5; +1 for Terrelle Pryor Eats Baby Seals And I Can See The Club For Miles, +1 for Despite Everything This Is The Top D In The League By All Measures, +1 for Ours Is Not Very Close HA HA HA, +1 for Turnover Margin: 5 vs 101, +1 for They Are A Much Better Football Team)

Desperate need to win level: 10 (Baseline 5; +5 for The Game)

Loss will cause me to... continue repeating "I expected 7-5" until the bowl game.

Win will cause me to... dissolve.

The strictures and conventions of sportswriting compel me to predict:

There's no reason for optimism, as not even the Epic Pryor Meltdown scenario seems to result in a win a week after Wisconsin didn't throw in the second half.

Tressel won't even have to risk it, as he should be able to grind it out on the ground with success and watch his excellent defense bottle Denard up sufficiently to stake the Buckeyes to a two-score lead they'll maintain most of he day. They'll take the Maserati out of the garage and run the inverted veer when/if Michigan brings it within a score, immediately going down the field to push the margin back out. The defense will be toyed with.

Finally, three opportunities for me to look stupid Sunday:

  • Pryor throws fewer than 20 times.
  • Two Michigan drives die on the vine around the OSU 35.
  • The bitter hollowness of defeat has a piquant familiarity, almost like an old friend.
  • Ohio State, 35-20.

Comments

mgoblue0970

November 27th, 2010 at 12:13 AM ^

I don't disagree with where you were trying to go with your post but...

1. A coaching change will simply extend the mediocrity at minimum 2 more years.

Nobody can say that with any certainty.  Jim Harbaugh turned Stanford around quicker, with lesser recruting classes, and in the face of stricter academics, than what RR has done at a big name school like Michigan.

2. All RR has done is improved the team each year since the first.

No... all RR has done is improve the offense.  The team includes not only the offense but the defense too... and last weekend, Chris Spielman was right on with his comments about Michigan.  After three years, we're still starting a shitload of freshman and the stats are getting worse.  (No comments about injuries please, every team in the nation has to contend with injuries -- even freak ones.)

antoo

November 27th, 2010 at 12:32 AM ^

Where are the juniors and seniors that are supposed to take the place of the freshmen and sophs? Where is this magical well that can produce upperclassmen? The only way you can replace underclassmen with upperclassmen is with time.

mgoblue0970

November 27th, 2010 at 12:42 AM ^

Where are the juniors and seniors that are supposed to take the place of the freshmen and sophs?

That's EXACTLY the point.  You mean to tell me after three years there aren't any upperclassmen on the defensive side of the ball?

Yeah, I get the attrition and injuries and stuff.  All college teams have to deal with that.  The good ones overcome that and I'm sorry (and I'm not pro-RR or anti-RR -- I'm PRO-MICHIGAN) but the HC is the CEO of the football team the buck stops with the leader.

Hell, Bo ran off half the team when he got to be HC... and that was waaay before the internet and 24 hour news cycles.  Could you imagine the grief Bo would have taken if he were brand new in this day and age?  But I digress...

I'm just sayin' that after three years, there should be more of this experience or games under player's belt you speak of in your reply.

antoo

November 27th, 2010 at 3:20 AM ^

Didn't Bo have 130+ players on scholarship back then?  It was a lot easier to replace players back then because they had 40+ more scholarships to work with.  Those guys that left the team when RR took over were the underclassmen that would be today's juniors and seniors.  RR graduated/is graduating the guys that stayed and is replacing the ones that left with youth.  Besides, how many of the guys that left are even playing college ball let alone playing well?  It would be one thing if Zion Babb was seeing time at Fresno State (I don't know if that's where he went) or if Brandon Smith and Marcus Witherspoon were even on the roster at Rutgers.  

Throw in the terrible timing of injuries and you have a recipe for disaster.  What could RR have done to prevent Boo Boo from going crazy?  Who could have predicted that highly regarded Justin Turner would essentially wash out of football (UM to WVU to Notre Dame of Ohio). Could RR have persuaded Warren to come back?  Maybe, maybe not.  Would a healthy Woolfolk and/or Floyd be worth one more win?  Maybe, maybe not.   To lose 5 players in one year in one section of your defense is ridiculously difficult to overcome for any team.  Look at OSU's depth chart and take away the starters at the CB/S positions and what do you get?  Fr, Fr, So, So.  Same thing for LSU; Fr, Fr, Fr, Fr.  I'm sure you'll find similar results for most of the D1 teams.

There's a reason why most coaches should get 4 full years regardless of what they do (unless they kill a prostitute or something).  

OSU: http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/17300/pdf/fb/10-depthchart.pdf?SPSID=87…

LSU: http://lsu.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

mgoblue0970

November 27th, 2010 at 4:21 AM ^

How many of those 130 scholarships actually saw the field?  Was it that drastically different than with the 85 now?  No.  I don't believe Bo was handing out too many scholarships partway through the season to replace players either.  So yes, it was a different era but to suggest that Bo had an easier time of dealing with injuries or attrition than RR did isn't exactly apt considering the overall talent pool was probably the same (again, judging by how many of those 130 ever saw even a minute of game time).

I brought up the point about Bo because I do understand that injuries and attrition happen.  I illustrated what happened with Bo because I know what we're seeing with RR has happened before. 

Listen, I'm not going to get on the fire RR bandwagon.  Do I wish RR would do things differently sure.  I think he's a good coach.  Perhaps better suited as OC at a big school... but that's a rant for another time.

I've never called for RR's firing.  I've posted previously that I think he'll get 4 years.

However, and I know this is an unpopular opinion but the thing I'm frustrated most about the football program is all the excuses.  That is ultimately what I'm trying to address.

I'll tell you what, I was watching a Mack Brown interview (a crybaby who on more than one occasion has whined his way into the BCS).  They're having a horrible season in Austin.  Mack actually had the stones to stand up and said that the responsibility is his.  He refused to take the reporter’s bait that because Colt moved on, that is the reason for their failure.

With RR we get a million excuses.  The RR sock-puppets will neg me for this but with RR we get a steady stream of "we're young", "this team isn't very good right now to make mistakes".  Well no kidding. 

Take the emotion out of it and 3 years later we're still talking about blown assignments, a ridiculous amount of turnovers, RR is recruiting guys that are fake 5'10" and 165#... does that make sense in the Big 10?  RR is shoving a gimmick defense down the throat of DCs who have no experience with it.  We're looking at another DC now; the 3rd in 4 years.  How does that build continuity amongst so much youth?  It doesn't. 

I just wish Michigan fans could have a cogent discussion about the state of the program.  One can criticize and still be a fan.  I'll never say anything bad about the kids, they're busting their ass with what they have to work with... and even Kovacs -- who is the target of a lot of venom in these pages.

Blue Blue Blue

November 27th, 2010 at 10:47 AM ^

Michigan formerly stockpiled talent.  top kids were ALL at Michigan or OSU.   we used to dominate because the other schools had more second tier players starting.

 

Now, many kids who might have come to the old Michigan and sat, are not offered and turn up at other B10 schools.

 

And in that era, a walk on was a rare bird.  Henry Hill.  now name another non kicker walkon from 1969-2000?

mgoblue0970

November 27th, 2010 at 5:56 PM ^

The point of the 130 was to keep the other players from going to other teams?  Nah, don't buy it. 

A few people may go to a school for certain reasons (parents, academics, childhood dreams, etc.) but it doesn't matter if it's 1970 or 2010 -- kids want to play.  One isn't going to fill out 130 scholarships just because you're trying to keep the other team from getting the players.  There has to be more to it.

Walk-ons?  Yes, back in day it generally was the exception to the rule but I still think it is.  We hear about notable, feel-good stories more easily given the internet and 24 hour news cycles.  But I'd like to see some data regarding walk ons before I develop a hard and fast position on that.

Just something to make you go hmmm... I'm not going to do the research on it and I'm not going to get into a pissing contest, but you may want to consider the numbers and years involved in this article:

Nebraska's dates to the Bob Devaney era of the 1960s and was ramped up under Tom Osborne in the 1970s, '80s and '90s. At one time, the team had 75 to 80 walk-ons, most of them small-town Nebraska kids who grew up dreaming of becoming a Cornhusker. In all, more than two dozen former Nebraska walk-ons have played in the NFL.

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/walk-ons-enjoy-prominent-roles-on-michig…

antoo

November 27th, 2010 at 12:12 PM ^

I'm as frustrated as anyone with what has happened so far. I don't believe that RR and the program should be criticism free but when there are reasons for things to be the way that they are, I believe fans should take that into account. Could RR have put more emphasis on recruiting DLine and CB's in the previous years? Probably but hindsight is 20/20.

On to the scholarship debate, not only does RR have 40+ less scholarships to work with but the NCAA also limited the # of scholarships he can give out per year (I believe 25 is the number, correct me if I'm wrong). While you're probably right in that not all 130 guys were good enough to play under Bo, at least he could go out and recruit 35 guys in a year to replace the 10 that left the previous year. I don't know the numbers but let's say that RR lost 10 guys when he came in. It's not like he could go out the next year and pick up 35 to replace the guys he lost, it's a process that takes time in order to replenish the ranks.

Please stop using the "RR recruits small players meme." Vincent Smith, Dileo, Gallon and Odoms fit the bill of small player and yet, 2 of them play/played a position that requires the small, shifty type player. Are Welker, Woodhead and Edelman too small to play for the Pats? I believe someone on here calculated the average weight of the OLines in the Big 10 and Michigan had the 3rd heaviest. Are Avery, Marvin Robinson, Carvin Johnson, Talbott, Christian, etc. really that much smaller than other Big Ten secondaries?

michgoblue

November 26th, 2010 at 11:02 PM ^

Around here, we try to stay on topic.  Your comment was in response to Brian's OSU preview.  But it wasn't about the OSU game or anything mentioned therein - it was a rant against RR and an attempt to start a discussion about whether or not to fire RR.  Could have been posted in any of the hundred MGoboard threads on this topic.

Also, dude, we are playing our biggest rival in a huge game tomorrow - the game of the season for us (as it always is).  Many of us (me included, by the way) have concerns about the coaching situation and where this team is heading, but most don't want to focus on that until after we ae done spanking OSU tomorrow.

Finally, you can complain about our defense as a whole, but please don't call our players marginal, mediocre or whatever else you said about them.  They are young.  They are not in the best scheme for their talent.  They have had constsantly chsanging defensive coaches.  But they bust their ass through adversity daily and I believe that with experience, most will be solid D1 players.

Youper94

November 27th, 2010 at 6:48 AM ^

If Harbaugh has the same record will you fire him? If he goes 3-9, 5-7, 7-5? Because if you make the change now then that might be what you get. Denard and/or tate might leave. There is no talent on defense. I can easily see Harbaugh losing 9 games next year, espicially if he changes the offense and loses half of the recruits.  

I would love to see how many of the fire Carr crowd are now in the fire Rich crowd. They will be first in line for the fire Jim crowd.

Blue Blue Blue

November 27th, 2010 at 10:37 AM ^

He has a contract.  Mary Sue is on record that we stand by our hires, citing Amaker as a coach we kept too long.   And  Brandon has repeatedly said he reviews everything, for all teams when the season is over.

3-9   5-7   8-5.  the improvement is there, despite the fact that the defense sucks.  Obvious area to target.

We are such a spoiled fan base.  So did you see Alabama lose therr third game of the year, blowing a 24-0 lead at home?   You know there are clowns just like you calling for Saban's head.

D.C. Dave

November 26th, 2010 at 10:42 PM ^

... of course, it's easy to be cool when you know your team is going to kill us. The only silver lining is it will be crystal clear to all Michigan fans why David Brandon has decided to replace Rodriguez with Harbaugh. You can't win with half a team, or a coach who only knows half the game and won't turn the other half over to someone who could turn it around.

aerobuckeye2001

November 26th, 2010 at 11:15 PM ^

Yes, I hope we kill you guys. But I'm not going to lie, I'm anxious/nervous as hell about the game. Most of us have been around long enough to know that strange things can occur during this game when they're not supposed to. It's what makes this particular game so special. I have no idea how things will shake out to start the game. In all seriousness though, I hate the douchebaggery between fan bases. My first trip to AA last year was more pleasant than I could have imagined. I'm just trying to return the favor. Go Bucks!

buckeyedude

November 27th, 2010 at 8:58 AM ^

Relax aero. All is well(in regards to today's game).

I went to the game in A-squared in 1995, my only OSU/UM game(it didnt' help that we lost with Eddie), and experienced much douchebaggery. I vowed never to go to another one. And I haven't. The insults and throwing of food at Buckeye fans with their backs turned was enough. Never again.

I know it happens in Ohio Stadium too, but it shouldn't. If ever I see poor sportsmanship, I am not afraid to call them out. A little trash talking is OK, but it is a fine line. And one must be cognizant of little ones that may be nearby.

tubauberalles

November 26th, 2010 at 11:47 PM ^

Who are you, The Knowledge's evil twin?  You have a lot of "inside" "knowledge" about topics noone else cares to discuss the day before The Game - at least not in this thread.  Maybe if you weren't on your way to Bolivian you'd be able to start your own board post and invite a discussion.  Did Rita dump you for Rich back in school?

Shoelace's Velcro

November 27th, 2010 at 12:12 AM ^

sounds like an idiot that know he's gonna lose tomorrow in his press conferences.

"When we’re better than the other teams," he said, "we’ll get off to better starts.” (So, is he saying Michigan's better or not?)

Nonetheless, the boys in blue WIN tomorrow because ohio state muffs a punt and for some reason can't stop us.

GO BLUE. (fire gerg!!!)

fabfive84

November 27th, 2010 at 12:38 AM ^

Love the picture of the wolverine bustin' the guts out of Brutus' punk ass. If we win tomorrow I'm streakin down my street.

 

I'm a wolverine from Toledo. Trust me there's a lot of us here.

buckeyedude

November 27th, 2010 at 8:50 AM ^

Yes, we Ohio State fans from Toledo know you are here, because you never shut up, even when yer team sucks.

BTW, I had a neighborhood "mini-block party," at my house in January of 2002 for the National Championship game. After Ohio State defeated Miami, my buddy, who just got back from two years in Iraq, did a victory lap around our neighborhood(filled with numerous UM fans), carrying a huge Buckeye flag, in his boxers only and combat boots. There was a foot and a half of snow on the ground at the time. ;)

It's going to be ugly today for the Wolverines. The only real question is whether RichRod is going to keep his job, or will he get fired after The Game. I made a $50 bet with a Michigan fan co-worker back in February that RichRod is toast after the Ohio State/UM game.

How shall I spend my winnings? 

buckeyedude

November 27th, 2010 at 9:18 AM ^

Which Tressel will we see today? THAT is the question.

I believe good Tressel. Meaning he is going to hand the ball off a lot to Boom Herron and try to establish the run, in order to eat the clock. Most importantly though, Ohio State running the ball will keep it out of Velcro's hands.

If the game is close in the second half,  that is when you're likely to see "evil Tressel," and playcalling more balanced between run and passing. I do not think that Tress will run the score up in the 4th qtr.  though, as he probably feels sorry for RichRod and his family, and he's likely to want to get some of his whippersnappers playing time in The Game.

Crime Reporter

November 27th, 2010 at 10:04 AM ^

I really can't take much more of this 3-3-5 crap. Ohio State will want to run the ball, so we need to do everything in our power to stop them. I will be rooting my ass off today. Go Blue.

claire

November 27th, 2010 at 11:07 AM ^

"Our Schembechler, who art in Football's Valhalla,Help us in The Game.Thy blitzers come, thy Denard get it doneOn Earth as he throws through the heavens.Give us this day our daily dreads...And forgive us our defenselessnessAs we forgive those who have no defense against us.And lead us not into interception But deliver us from field goal.For thine is the Team, the Team, and the Team,fire Greg Robinson, Amen." Viges

CountBluecula

November 27th, 2010 at 1:40 PM ^

I think the Media Relations reads this blog.  They would be incompetent if they didn't keep up with the "new media".  

That being said, my halftime prediction is that someone from Media Relations will bring a couch out onto the sideline, Greg Robinson will pee on it and try to dry it with Cheetos.  We saw this in the past with puppets and small furry animals.