no Morgan official? If not, I still believe he will play.
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
|WHAT||Michigan at Michigan State|
|WHERE||Breslin Center, East Lansing, Michigan|
|WHEN||9 PM Eastern, Tuesday|
|LINE||Michigan –1 (Kenpom)|
Right: Michigan's rise to prominence has taken its toll on Tom Izzo.
With two losses in three games, Michigan has gone from potentially running away with the Big Ten to playing catchup, and tonight's game at Michigan State is probably a must-win if the Wolverines hope to win the conference outright—the Spartans are currently a game ahead in the standings.
Michigan State's strength is up front, where they feature a pair of skilled big men in Derrick Nix and Adreian Payne. Nix is surprisingly quick for being rather large—6'9", 270 pounds after working his way into shape—and has an impressive array of post moves; he shoots 52% from two while largely working with his back to the basket. At 6'10", 240 lbs., Payne is the more athletic of the two bigs and also the more efficient finisher—he shoots 60% from two, including an 80% rate at the rim (per hoop-math), and has even connected on 7-of-13 threes this season. Both are solid offensive rebounders while Payne is one of the country's best defensive rebounders and a strong shot-blocker.
Rounding out the frontcourt is 6'6" forward Branden Dawson, who can play either the three or the four, though he's playing mostly at the three due to injury issues in the backcourt. Dawson is a skilled finisher at the rim (70%), where he takes almost exactly 2/3 of his shots; he hits 34% of his two-point jumpers and has only attempted four three-pointers this year, so the key is keeping him away from the basket. Dawson is also State's best offensive rebounder and an active presence on defense, where he's in the top 75 nationally in steal rate and posting a solid block rate.
MSU's highest-usage player is point guard Keith Appling, who has regained his three-point stroke (37%) after a season-long slump last year. Appling is a very good distributor who can also get to the rim with his athleticism; he's not a stellar finisher (46% on twos) but he gets to the line frequently and creates second-chance opportunities for his teammates.
The final piece in the starting five is freshman guard Gary Harris, who's lived up to his considerable recruiting hype by shooting 51% from two and 43% from three so far this season. Harris is a very dangerous outside shooter and he can also put the ball on the floor; while he's not this team's main option, he's got a GRIII-like way of producing points around the margins and cannot be ignored.
The Spartans will be without the services of backup guard Travis Trice (concussion), which means freshman Denzel Valentine will be the primary backup for the one-through-three. Valentine is a decent shooter and creator, but he's had major issues with turnovers (31.3% TO rate(!)). 6'7" sophomore Russell Byrd will also see time; he's a perimeter-oriented guy who's currently 7-for-40 from three this season with a 23% turnover rate. That's... not good.
The Spartans are currently pushing for a two-seed, sitting at 20-4 (9-2 B1G) with KP100 wins over Kansas, Boise State, Texas, Purdue(x2), Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Minnesota—of those, the neutral-site win over the Jayhawks and victory at the Kohl Center stand out as signature wins. After dropping their season opener against #48 UConn (neutral site), State hasn't lost to a team outside the top 13, and all three losses—to #8 Miami, #13 Minnesota, and #2 Indiana—have come on the road.
Four factors, conference only.
|eFG%||Turnover %||Off. Reb. %||FTA/FGA|
|Offense||50.9 (3)||17.8 (8)||30.9 (7)||37.6 (5)|
|Defense||48.8 (8)||19.3 (3)||28.6 (3)||35.7 (7)|
Despite their success, this isn't a vintage Tom Izzo team. The offense is prone to coughing up the rock and the rebounding, while strong on the defensive end, isn't nearly up to Izzo's standard of dominance. The Spartans are dead last—dead last!—in the conference at two-point defense, with opponents hitting 49.1% of their shots inside the arc. State also allows more three-point attempts than average and opponents are shooting a fluky-low 60% from the line—their #3 defensive efficiency in conference play may be slightly inflated by luck. Offensively, the Spartans have developed a strong inside-outside attack, hitting 41% of their threes and 47% of their twos.
Find the right lineup. Michigan State, largely by necessity with the injury to Trice, will mostly play big tonight. Michigan, largely by necessity with the injury to Jordan Morgan, will mostly play their usual smaller lineup. However, Glenn Robinson III has clearly hit a wall, and he's struggled to defend larger players and keep them off the glass. Against Nix and Payne, that won't fly. I wouldn't be surprised if Max Bielfeldt sees very extensive playing time for the second straight game—if Robinson isn't producing offensively, Bielfeldt brings more from a rebounding and defensive standpoint.
Get out in transition. State should give Michigan a few opportunities to run thanks to their turnover issues, and in what should be a tight game the Wolverines must take advantage; they didn't against Wisconsin (yes, in large part due to the officiating) and it cost them dearly, though the Badgers are far better at limiting transition opportunities.
Let Nix and Payne get their points in the post. Michigan State has a pair of skilled bigs who can score in the post, but its been shown that post touches tend to be far less efficient—even for teams that convert them well—than perimeter-oriented play. Nix and Payne will get their points, but if Michigan can limit them to two-pointers—both are good foul shooters—and stay with their men on the perimeter, State may have a hard time keeping up with the Wolverines if Michigan is knocking down their shots.
Michigan by 1
Jordan Morgan's absence makes me very leery about this line—I think Michigan misses him more than Michigan State misses Travis Trice in this game, especially if Robinson doesn't hold up well against MSU's big men. I think Michigan can pull out a critical road win, however, by capitalizing on Spartan turnovers and working their own inside-outside game—for a big team, State is surprisingly terrible at defending inside the arc, and they won't be able to rely on their normal turnover rate against a Michigan team that rarely coughs up the rock. This will be close, and quite honestly I'm leaning towards a loss, but I'll put my faith in KenPom and this team's ability to put the ball in the basket.
no Morgan official? If not, I still believe he will play.
Morgan is shut down as of last week, it was way too much to think he could walk off that nasty sprain in just a week or two. Keep your fingers crossed he can be back in time for the *next* MSU game.
I think it was a bad idea to try and give Morgan even limited minutes against this rough stretch as opposed to letting him rehab and heal. I think it hurt his recovery and we may be in a bit of a bind until he's back towards full strength.
I have to disagree with the comment about UM missing Morgan more than MSU will miss Trice. Appling is not a great on the ball defender and has a tendency to pick up early fouls. Touble for MSU is that Trice is the only other option at PG, and is probably their best outside shooter not named Gary Harris. UM has 3 bigs they can throw at MSU (4 if you count McLimans), and while there is a drop off from McGary/Horford to Bielfeldt/McLimans, it is not near as big as Appling to Valentine at PG.
The trouble here is minutes—you can ask a guard to go 35+ for a game, but a big man needs to catch a breather more frequently. Michigan is going to need more minutes out of Morgan's replacements than State will from Trice's. Also, while Bielfeldt held his own for stretches at center against Wisconsin, State's two bigs make it unlikely that Beilein will be able to get away with that look for long.
The other trouble here is you believing that Blake McLimans, who hasn't played a meaningful minute all season, is a viable option to play.
I wasn't trying to say your opinion is wrong, just that I happen to view things differently. I completely agree about a guard being able to play more minutes than a big. I was speaking more towards Appling getting himself in foul trouble. If I remember correctly, he was in early foul trouble in both games last year against UM.
As far as McLimans, I by no means think he will come in and be an impact player, but I think he could give UM a couple minutes of decent play. It is probably not a good sign though if McLimans is in the game.
if he sees the floor tonite we are in big trouble unless we are up by 20 with 2 min to go.
I am going to be honest and say I don't have a good feeling about this game. I definitely don't know we're going to lose, but the evidence so far is that the freshmen are in fact freshmen. By the end of Big Ten season, however, I think they'll be quite seasoned for a long tourney run (which are not played on the road)
Byrd 7 for 40 from three this season? So basically what you're saying is that he will probably shoot somewhere in the range of 5 for 7 against us right?
Correct. And four rebounds.
Worry if... McGary = Foul Trouble.
Cackle with knowing glee if.... MSU has more than 10 turnovers in the first half.
Desperate Need To Win Level: 9
Loss Will Cause Me To: Hate Ben Brust even more than I do now, demand KenPom adjust Michigan's "Luck" rating by more than two measly one-hundreths.
Win Will Cause Me To: Wooo.
No prediction because you know what happens when you try to not predict what KenPom predicts!!
So what you're saying is, you are predicting the same thing KenPom does, but then admitting that you are leaning towards a loss. You are tempting fate, sir.
Izzo looks like an idiot in that picture.
Feeling sorry for you today Ace...devoting all this time and energy to great bball pieces and these damn HS football players are throwing "Hello" material at you. It's a tough gig.
RUN THE FOOTBALL: Did you know the team with the most yards on the ground almost always win this game?
Dylan @ MGoHoops... best part of that read.
Byrd will probably have a huge game. These things have a way of happening.
Over the past few games Michigan has looked like a young team that struggles to fight through adversity and/or close late in games. This has me worried. I'm really hoping we can buck that trend. Especially, since I will be watching the game with my boss (who is a Sparty) at The Thirsty Lion after work. Hoping for some "Sparty no!"
then the sky is still the limit. I think Stauskas is due for a big game. BEAT STAEE (I haven't seen it yet which is weird)
IIRC he was 5 for 5 against IU .... so other than the one game he's 2 - 8. So - let him shoot the three. I'm really hoping that we don't go 3 deep on our center rotation (unless its Morgan). Playing your 4th string center against their big men WILL NOT WORK.
Gonna take a 40 minute effort, with all players contributing (hello GR3 ... rebounds if not points). We really need this from a confidence standpoint. The top 4 in the B1G are all very good basketball teams, so we need to win one of these away from home (like IU did v. ohio). And oh yeah, Wisconsin you are NOT one of the top 4 teams, so STFU.
So I guess Kenpom was wrong this time.. Glad this ugly stretch is done, time to go back to winning at home and playing the likes of PSU