Preview: Michigan State 2015 Comment Count

Brian

Braylon-catch-vs-MSU[1]Essentials

WHAT Michigan State at Michigan
WHERE Michigan Stadium

Ann Arbor, MI
WHEN 3:30 Eastern

October 17th, 2015
THE LINE Michigan –7
TELEVISION ESPN
TICKETS From $210(!)
PARKING Sold out(!). Better get on that OSU spot.
WEATHER mostly cloudy, high 40s, 0% chance of rain

Overview

Michigan State entered this season a projected juggernaut with an NFL quarterback and that ol' Spartan defense. While MSU is undefeated, it hasn't really worked out like that. MSU saw their marquee win severely compromised when Utah atomized Oregon at Autzen and then erased when Washington State beat the Ducks in overtime.

Meanwhile MSU has struggled to separate from a collection of teams that are Not Good. CMU was within a touchdown deep into the third quarter. Air Force outgained MSU by about 100 yards but repeatedly fumbled away a chance at the upset. Purdue came storming back from 21-0 to 24-21 and had two cracks at a winning drive. Rutgers led most of the way last week.

None of these teams are sneaky good. Oregon is currently the top-ranked MSU opponent in S&P at 64th. WMU and CMU look like MAC bottom dwellers. Purdue and Rutgers are Purdue and Rutgers. I guess we can give MSU a pass against Air Force because never schedule Air Force. But Michigan State looks vulnerable. Thus an approximately 14-point swing in the line from preseason.

Run Offense vs Michigan State

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McDowell gets upfield in a hurry

(This preview ignores the Air Force game for obvious reasons. Never schedule Air Force.)

Michigan State's defense is, as always, highly aggressive. MSU has overwhelmed a number of very bad rush offenses; the last two weeks they have also parted like the Red Sea for long touchdowns. They want to be in your backfield on every play, but this year they don't have the secondary to back that up consistently.

MSU runs a lot of twist blitzes with their linebackers that see DT Malik McDowell roar upfield a gap or even two outside where he is nominally expected to be. This has killed Michigan (and a lot of other teams) for a long time. It'll be interesting to see how Michigan combats that under Jim Harbaugh.

We had a brief period of competitive football last week in which it looked like he wanted to spread a similar defense horizontally and run zone at it. That was only dubiously effective, as two big De'Veon Smith runs came when linebackers missed tackles at or near the line of scrimmage and several others were blown up. But by the time adjustments should have been made, Michigan was up 28-0 and thinking about this game.

Anyway. McDowell, Lawrence Thomas, and Shilique Calhoun are all penetration-or-death types; three-tech Joel Heath is more of an OL occupier. This can lead to some big gaps when someone roars upfield and Heath gets blasted back—to my eye he's not too good. The trick is getting through that gap instead of getting nailed in the backfield.

MSU's linebackers are all okay to good. They miss Ed Davis's playmaking presence but with Yet Another Bullough and Jon Reschke they hold it down just fine.

If Michigan tries to pop outside they are going to meet a version of the fate that Karan Higdon did against Northwestern. MSU will activate the playside safety as soon as Michigan shows run action. The difference here is that Northwestern has a very solid pair of safeties and MSU does… not. The entire MSU secondary struggles to tackle.

Add it up and it's still pretty good. MSU ranks 47th in rush defense on S&P, and while their plain old numbers aren't nearly as good you should remember that we are ignoring the Air Force game, a huge distorting factor.

Michigan's end of this has been solid and uninspiring. They've willingly flung their dudes into stacked boxes for big chunks of games, both to hone their players and run down the clock. An ever-shifting series of fancy plays has helped them keep their head above water, and a penetration-mad MSU seems vulnerable to Harbaugh's wham series plus the various traps Michigan's shown to date. I'm sure MSU coaches are aware of this as well, but there's only so much you can do to revamp what you do in a week.

Michigan's OL has rounded into a B or B+ unit featuring Mason Cole and Graham Glasgow as emerging stars; their blocky/catchy crew has been at about the same level. De'Veon Smith, Michigan's lead back, had a detectable limp after the Northwestern game but will play and will probably carry the load all day. His injury is one that lingers but you can tough it out, and Smith is a tough hombre.

Michigan is going to want to get reasonable gains when they are put under pressure and hit a few big plays. Like Northwestern, down-to-down consistency is going to be tough to come by.

KEY MATCHUP: MCDOWELL and CALHOUN versus WHAM and ASSORTED OTHER HARBAUGH GOTCHA PLAYS. The prospect of a coaching matchup that is even or even slants a bit towards Michigan is on the table. Wouldn't it be nice?

[Hit THE JUMP for NOT YOUR OLDER BROTHER'S MICHIGAN STATE SECONDARY and THE GUY ACTUALLY LIVING UP TO EXPECTATIONS]

Pass Offense vs Michigan State

via Ace

Weakness versus weakness here. Michigan State's secondary was bad to start the season and has lost two guys for the season. As a result they're super thin; guys are playing badly and there's nowhere to turn but freshmen. The guys on the field frequently give off the whiff of early JT Floyd, as per above.

Safety Montae Nicholson is the main whipping boy after chasing six to ten different guys into the endzone this year. This blog owes Brady Hoke an apology in re: Michigan's decision to stop pursuing him. Ace clipped this Caroo touchdown where the WR literally runs past Nicholson before he thinks "should I cover that guy?"

Does my existence have a purpose? Or am I a notion floating in a super-mind, about to be snuffed out by its whim? –Existentialist Montae Nicholson

That is far from an isolated incident. Nicholson was benched for a brief period, but injuries have forced him back on the field. The question is not so much "will Michigan State bust coverages?" but "can Jake Rudock hit the open guys deep?"

I don't know, man. Can he? You tell me. I think so, because he had very good year last year in that department. I have the willies about it.

Meanwhile, MSU's corners are not up to their recent standards. With Vayante Copeland out for the year they've turned to Darian Hicks, who may or may not play Saturday, Jermaine Edmondson, and Arjen Colquhoun. Hicks is probably the best available; the other two guys are journeymen with major flaws. Colquhoun's press coverage is super-grabby and penalty prone; Edmondson will frequently miss jams entirely, a la Blake Countess. Michigan doesn't have the greatest WR corps but they will have opportunities in the intermediate zones as well.

MSU's pass rush is good. MSU's adjusted sack rate is 17th in the country; Shilique Calhoun is an upgraded version of Will Gholston who, in addition to pursuing guys unblocked, is capable of edge rushes that are devastatingly effective all their own. Calhoun also times snaps; he was across the line simultaneous with the ball a few times in the Rutgers game.

He and McDowell are the main rush threats. MSU's picked up scattered sacks from other players, with Riley Bullough a threat on linebacker blitzes. Michigan might want to chip Calhoun; both tackles have had issues in pass protection against elite rushers this year, insofar as they have appeared on the schedule.

Michigan's side of this was a lot of depression until the Northwestern game. In that game Jake Rudock reprised his efficient but uninspiring ways en route to a 17/23 performance against a very good pass defense; in this he was significantly aided by Jim Harbaugh's ability to exploit the hyperactive Northwestern linebackers. MSU presents a similar challenge minus the to-date excellent secondary, except with a bucket of additional pass rush.

To maintain efficiency against a defense like this Michigan has to hit some big plays, of which there have been few in the passing game. Rudock's hit Butt for an assortment of 30-yarders; he has missed Chesson on his infrequent attempts to go deep. This is not a weakness that is necessarily baked into his performance as a QB. Last year he had a period where he went nuts on opponents; PFF had him the #12 QB in downfield accuracy just a year ago. Reviving some of that is going to be important.

When not bombing it downfield, Michigan will want to pull people out of alignment with misdirection and exploit the gaps. I hope that Harbaugh's seen how MSU reacts to TE pop passes, because one pump fake should put Butt in the clear for a 20 yard pass that will go as far as Butt's long speed takes him. MSU has consistently befuddled Michigan pass protection and quarterbacks; hopefully we see a new day dawn tomorrow.

KEY MATCHUP: JAKE BUTT and wonderfully AJ WILLIAMS versus WHOOPS DID I NEED TO COVER THAT GUY.

Run Defense vs Michigan State

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LJ Scott is going to be a pain in the ass for a long time

Of all the uncertain matchups in this game this is the most uncertain. Michigan State has seen tackles Kodi Kieler—the D-I player named most like a stripper—and Jack Conklin and center Jack Allen go down with injury. The tackles are close to returning. Kieler saw a number of snaps against Rutgers; Conklin was dressed and available in "an emergency." Allen took a nasty hit to the side of his lower leg late* in the Rutgers game; he couldn't put weight on it and was carted off.

All or none could play; if it's "none" this will be an unholy decimation, so let's assume that the grimmest injury scenarios are out the window. The most likely one: Kieler and Conklin play below full capacity and Allen misses the game. In that case… uh… we still don't know much of anything. Michigan State hasn't fielded its starting line since Kieler got knocked out against Oregon.

Their six games are against two MAC teams, two teams that would get relegated to the MAC if that's the way things worked, Air Force, and an Oregon team that's suddenly miserable on defense. The only slightly above average run D they've faced is Air Force, which is 42nd nationally in YPC. The Falcons held MSU under two yards a carry.

Things have gone better in their other outings, mainly because freshman RB LJ Scott has been pretty righteous. Unfortunately BTN seems to only put touchdowns up, so I don't have a clip of Scott's too-quick-for-his-size spin move against Purdue, but you can get a hint of his inner De'Veon on this touchdown:

Scott has Smith's balance with better agility and speed. He started the year behind Madre London in the pecking order, but an injury to London and Scott's play figure to make him the lead back against Michigan. Ace glossed over him a bit in his FFFF; I think he is the real deal and will be slipping tackles with frustrating frequency on Saturday, and for years thereafter.

But the fundamental issue with MSU is that Scott is making a ton of moves just to get past the line of scrimmage, against Rutgers and Purdue and etc. MSU is just 63rd in YPC this year, and the advanced stats haaaaate MSU's ground game. MSU is 105th in rushing S&P. Ace saw why in a game against a team that gave up 330 rushing yards to Penn State:

Even with Allen healthy, MSU's runs mostly met a wad of bodies and their pass-blocking was downright bad.

MSU has not been able to move guys this year. Even when healthy against Oregon—a very bad Oregon defense—their running game was one big carry from London early, one that came when one Oregon guy stunted and another didn't, and a lot of grunts into the line. MSU looks vulnerable here.

Michigan is about to amp up the competition level. MSU's faced the #79, 86, 110, 113, and 123 rushing defenses (per S&P) this year. The outlier, Air Force, is 24th, and MSU got blown up. Michigan is 4th. Those are all opponent adjusted numbers, and that's why the fancy stats hate MSU's run defense.

Michigan brings a load, with six excellent defensive linemen who will rotate through the MSU backfield on the regular. Jack Allen kicked Michigan's ass a year ago; that is not going to happen this year even if he's fully healthy.

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One complicating factor for Michigan is the loss of James Ross for the first half after a targeting ejection. MSU does run more tight end types out there than anyone Michigan's seen to date. Ace charted them against Rutgers. Results are at right.

It's about a 50/50 split. Michigan will probably add junior Ben Gedeon to the lineup when MSU is in bigger sets; Gedeon is a prime athlete who hasn't seen much playing time yet in his career.

This should be a blowout for Michigan except when Michigan State backs are busting through tackles; sometimes they will just find another guy ready to tackle. Other times they'll poke some holes in Michigan's rush D.

*[Is there anything more hilarious than MSU fans having endless online conniption fits about that hit because it is "dirty"? No, there is not. Incidentally, the dude who pulled a gun in a road rage incident is playing Saturday.]

KEY MATCHUP: RYAN GLASGOW versus ANY WHO WOULD STAND IN HIS WAY

Pass Defense vs Michigan State

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This is where Michigan is most likely to lose the game, should they lose it. Connor Cook has demonstrated his quality over the first half of his senior season, especially of late. Ace:

[Cook] was phenomenal in this game given the circumstances. Despite facing a heavy rush on many of his attempts, he averaged 9.4 yards per attempt with no completion longer than 29 yards, and he only had one glaring error, uncharacteristically forcing a pass into the end zone that Rutgers intercepted in spectacular fashion.

Otherwise, Cook made several spectacular throws, often of the impossible-to-defend back-shoulder variety:

I had him down for five DOs in this game and could've given him one or two more. Other than a tendency to occasionally sail passes to his left, he's very accurate, and he was really impressive at throwing while under duress—he'll need a similar performance Saturday.

Cook is a more mobile Chad Henne. He will sail the occasional pass, but he's got the arm strength and accuracy to make the throws that make NFL scouts perk up. He's also a reasonable threat on the ground—Rudock except bigger. He has kept MSU afloat during their OL shuffles.

Cook's main target is senior Aaron Burbridge, who's finally come into his own as a leaping contested ball acquirer. His yards per target is over 10—the next MSU WR hovers around 7. Cook and Burbridge combine to hit a lot of plays on which the defense throws up its hands and emotes because they played it well and they just got beat. Burbridge can get loose, too, but his best assets are body control and leaping ability.

Most folks figure Jourdan Lewis will follow him around; I think Michigan might tell MSU to pick their poison. M is very comfortable lining up in man press on outside guys and forcing them to the sidelines; MSU has a number of slippery little guys that Michigan might want to match up with underneath.

Those guys are MacGarrett Kings and RJ Shelton. Both are 5'10" and okay. They aren't the quickest, they aren't the biggest targets, they're both competent. Michigan is going to want to put the clamps on both as much as possible so they can deliver rushers to Cook.

Despite Cook's obvious proficiency the advanced stats are relatively skeptical due to strength of competition. Cook's at 8.2 YPA with 12 TDs and just 2 INTs; MSU is 49th in passing S&P. That's an overcorrection, I think.

Michigan's defensive backfield has been lights out this year. Jourdan Lewis is headed for an All-American nod, Jeremy Clark and Channing Stribling have been wiping out attempted fades all year, and Jabrill Peppers is improving. Michigan has given up one play longer than 20 yards all year, that late against UNLV.

When they've been vulnerable it's been when their man coverage gets beat underneath: Maryland had consistent success with slants (that they could not catch) and a couple of crossing routes hit for third and long conversions for the Wildcats.

MSU has the receivers and the quarterback to replicate that. Getting Stribling, who's missed the last two games, back would be a boon, as it would allow Michigan to play Lewis in the slot in an attempt to mitigate the quickness advantage Kings and Shelton have over Michigan's safeties.

Meanwhile Michigan's pass rush has been rampant. Blessed with a a pair of 300-pound DE/DT types who have the strength to push the pocket and the quickness to rush successfully on their own, Michigan has crushed pockets against all comers. Cook was excellent at getting rid of the ball under pressure against Rutgers, but man there was a lot of pressure. Michigan should be in Cook's face most of the day, making extended drives difficult to come by. He's good enough to manufacture some on his own.

KEY MATCHUP: JOURDAN LEWIS (and FRIENDS) against AARON BURBRIDGE LEAPY BUSINESS

Special Teams

This has been a major problem for Michigan State. Each phase of their special teams has contributed large mistakes. Oregon's Braylon Addison returned a punt for a touchdown. Western Michigan's Darius Phillips returned a kickoff for a TD in the opener—something highly relevant after Jehu Chesson skated through Northwestern untouched last week. Only 7 of MSU's 36 kickoffs have been touchbacks, and given what's happened to them so far you know that's not by choice. MSU is last in the conference in punt return average allowed and 10th in KO return yardage allowed. Meanwhile they've returned one punt this year, period, that for a yard; KO returns have been middling.

Kicker Michael Geiger was a Groza finalist as a freshman but then #collegekickers happened to him. Here's an Only Colors commenter with the nitty gritty:

Geiger started out his career looking like a legitimate weapon, he was 15 out of 16 FGA in his Freshman season. 8(!) of the 15 FGM were from 40yds or more – that is studly.

Since then Geiger has only made 19 out of 31 FGA and in the past 10 games has only 1 FGM over 39 yards. This off-season he had surgery on his hip, however it seems he has a mental block now, or still some health issues, or possibly worse – both.

Geiger is 5 of 9 on the season and only hit his 30-yarder against Rutgers by banging it off the upright. He's missed from 35 three times and 28 once; he has one field goal longer than 36 yards on the season. He's also missed an extra point.

Despite the Addison return against Oregon, punting is something of a bright spot—or at least it was before Rutgers. Jake Hartbarger is averaging 43 yards a kick with relatively few return opportunities ceded. Unfortunately for MSU Hartbarger shanked two against Rutgers and was replaced by Tyler O'Connor, the backup QB. Hartbarger also dropped a snap against Purdue. It's unclear whether he was pulled for performance or injury.

On Michigan's side of the ball things are going a bit better. Michigan returned a kickoff for a touchdown last week; they've punted to Will Likely and lived; they've put a lot of punts on the five yard line with just one pooch touchback on the negative side of the ledger; Kenny Allen has put most of his balls between the big sticks, mate.

This should be an advantage for Michigan, but unlike the Northwestern game where every exchange of punts was likely to include a first down's worth of hidden yards, if Michigan gets an advantage here it will be a sudden big play like Geiger missing a field goal or a big return.

KEY MATCHUP: MATE PUT THE BALL THROUGH THE BIG STICKS NO WORRIES

Intangibles

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Cheap Thrills

Worry if...

  • MSU fields a fully healthy offensive line.
  • Connor Cook reintroduces Jourdan Lewis to the gypsy.
  • Michigan is unable to deal with MSU's twist blitzes for the Nth consecutive year.

Cackle with knowing glee if...

  • Glasgows dominate their opposite number.
  • WHAM
  • Geiger doinks a field goal off the post and it hits the punter in the head and knocks over all the kickoff coverage guys and lands in Jabrill Peppers's hands.

Fear/Paranoia Level: 6 (Baseline 5; +1 for DANTONIOOOOOOO is our KHAAAAN, +1 for This QB Is Not Like The Others, +1 for Lingering Stinky Stank, –1 for I Have Seen These Two Teams Play This Year, –1 for Special Teams Fiasco That Isn't Us For A Change, –1 for Gimpy OL Against This Defensive Line, +1 for This Plus One Is Completely Irrational, +1 for My Confidence Gives Me Fear, –1 for HARBAUGh)

Desperate need to win level: 9 (Baseline 5; +1 for Win This And It's Basically A Straight Shot To OSU, +1 for Also That Would Mean A Likely NY6 Bowl, +1 for Or We Could Win The Dang Division, +1 for DISRESSERPKEKTD, +1 for These Guys, I Mean Seriously, –1 for Not A Real Rival)

Loss will cause me to... walk by some brahs walking the wrong way if they'd actually gone to the game

Win will cause me to... seeya in South Carolina, Mark

The strictures and conventions of sportswriting compel me to predict:

Poke any purely objective measure you care to and it will tell you this should be a blowout in Michigan's favor. S&P+ has M a 21(!) point favorite. The line was up to 8.5 for parts of the week with sharps still betting Michigan.

It's not going to be like that, of course. As they say, throw out the S&P+ when it comes to rivalry games. Both teams will have surprises in store; MSU will play unreasonably well compared to the rest of their season.

But this just isn't a vintage Dantonio Michigan State team. They don't have the horses in the secondary. Their special teams have fallen apart. The offense might have been able to carry them but the injuries seem like they probably won't get all the way right, and this is the wrong DL to be limping against.

Michigan has one clear personnel deficiency, that at quarterback. Without an extreme burst of turnovers or other weirdness, the way that matchup plays out determines the difference between a close game and a laugher. The laugher only goes in one direction.

Finally, three opportunities for me to look stupid Sunday:

  • Rudock hits two deep passes. For real. Yes. I mean this. Gah.
  • MSU rushes for under three yards a carry.
  • Michigan State does something dirty to a Michigan player in the fourth quarter.
  • Michigan, 25-11

Comments

Van Rudely

October 16th, 2015 at 2:40 PM ^

I went and read MSU blog postings today in an effort to slow my inner hype train. I couldn't help but feel how consistantly over-optimistic they were about their play as of late.

Obviously, it accomplished nothing. Choo-Choo...

reshp1

October 16th, 2015 at 2:45 PM ^

"Without an extreme burst of turnovers or other weirdness, the way that matchup plays out determines the difference between a close game and a laugher. The laugher only goes in one direction."

This is exactly how I feel about this game. The variance of M vs MSU games and State's uncanny ability to outplay their previous performances against us leave us losing close as a plausible outcome on one extreme. However, the other, equally likely, extreme is that we curb stomp them.

Asgardian

October 16th, 2015 at 2:45 PM ^

"Michigan State entered this season a projected juggernaut with an NFL quarterback and that ol' Spartan defense."

While I respect Connor Cook, I insist that we refer to him as "a very good college quarterback that is expected to be selected high in the NFL draft next May".

Many QB draft picks do not pan out, and most are not ready to play in the NFL and succeed as a rookie.  Let's not put the man on a pedestal.  Aaron Rodgers he is not.

Also it warrants reminding that the Rutgers "secondary" he shredded last week (in the second half) was more like the Rutgers "second string" given that 3 projected starter/contributor DBs were kicked off the team in September.

m1jjb00

October 16th, 2015 at 2:50 PM ^

I don't even live in Michigan and I need these guys to STFU.  I need at least 2 months of relative peace before the chirping about Izzo taking them to another Final Four starts.

jmblue

October 16th, 2015 at 3:01 PM ^

I also have had this feeling Rudock and Chesson are finally going to connect on a deep ball against MSU.  At some point it's going to happen . . . right?

Or am I channeling this guy?

Gameboy

October 16th, 2015 at 3:02 PM ^

With the way Brian's prediction for Rudock has gone, this can mean only one thing - Ruddock will have the worst passing game since his kindergarten days. Be afraid, very afraid...

WolverineRage

October 16th, 2015 at 3:06 PM ^

But 11?  TD, Botched conversion, FG, Safety or 3 FGs, Safety?  TD plus 2 Safetys?

I'm tempted to say that if MSU gets a safety I will eat a lemon.

 

In trying to come up with a score prediction, I've been confounded by MSU.  I have to believe that they're going to come out jacked up for this.  They have to be.  Mark Dantonio is a grumpy old man with questionable suspension policies but he's a good coach.

 

My prediction is 24-17 Michigan.  I think the goose egg gets busted unfortunately.  If Michigan is able to run up a score, then I would seriously start to wonder if the Narduzzi effect is as big as the Harbaugh effect.

Bodogblog

October 16th, 2015 at 3:13 PM ^

I know Maryland tried this and it didn't work, but I remember 2011 going into EL and looking forward to Martin & Co. lunching on a weakened Spary OL.  They proceeded to cut block the entire day - hobbling Martin for the remainder of the year - and had good success with it. 

This worries me.  

JFW

October 16th, 2015 at 3:54 PM ^

then I hope Harbaugh has the 'slip the leash' plays where we stay legal but try to murdalize 'em for a play or two. 

I'm hoping its just a game that could have its own version of 'NFL crunch course' with hard hits on both sides, but no injuries.

Rabbit21

October 16th, 2015 at 4:41 PM ^

That memory is exactly what is keeping me in check with expectations for this game.  They took a supposed strength and neutralized the hell out of it.  I can't quite shake the feeling we will see something similar this time around.

BlueMan80

October 16th, 2015 at 3:15 PM ^

Something tells me the Harbaugh factor will be strong, the team's hunger to win will be insatiable, and the seniors will exorcise the demons of the past, especially from last year's game.

24-6 Meeechigan, but if we score on special teams or an INT, we go over 30.

gwkrlghl

October 16th, 2015 at 10:18 PM ^

On paper I'm terrified, but in real life I'm disturbingly confident that MSU won't win. They played a number of competitive games with teams we would beat 30-0. No joke. This feels like Northwestern - no one wants to say it ahead of time so we call a close game but in retrospect it was obvious that it was a mismatch

Good guys 28-10

billybrown

October 16th, 2015 at 3:19 PM ^

Michigan 31 msu 13. If rudock is mistake free Michigan wins and it won't be competitive. I don't care what tricks they pull this defense is the real thing. The last seven years are irrelevant to this year. This Michigan team could not be more different. Msu is far from their teams in 2011 and 2013 and 2014. Burbridge will make one big play and that's it. This is Michigan's game to lose.




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Gr1mlock

October 16th, 2015 at 3:27 PM ^

I have a not-irrational fear that there will be multiple cheap shots to Peppers' knees at some point.  Probably other peoples' too, but for some reason, i have this image of dirty blocks on outside runs or screens stuck in my mind (yes, I realize this would require them to lay a finger on Peppers during said play, but still).  Nonetheless, I feel concerningly optimistic about this game.  I foresee Cook's ribs getting payback for Gardner's.  

 

36-0 Michigan - 5 TDs, and Harbaugh goes for 2 on the last one out of principle.  

matty blue

October 16th, 2015 at 3:36 PM ^

...particularly when it comes to michigan football, sometimes to an absurd degree.  i almost always pick us to win, even in the face of overwhelming evidence the contrary.  i make no apologies for this; my heart simply overrides my head when it comes to michigan football. 

for the last seven years, no matter how lousy we got, i'd pick a michigan win more often than not, but it was almost always out of hope rather than any real confidence.

but not this time, buddy, not this time.  i think we're going to really lay the wood to that sanctimonious prick and his band of cheap-shot artists tomorrow.

michigan 21, FYS 10, and it's not that close.

kzoomgr

October 16th, 2015 at 3:53 PM ^

If we prevail in this game, a close second in the joy bucket will be to see Dantonio process a loss to Michigan.  He has staked seemingly his entire livelihood on beating Michigan and stomping on our smoking carcasses in the process, and unfortunately that plan has been successful for too long. One of my first thoughts when Harbaugh joined was seeing the mental and strategic battle between these two coaches. This is fun stuff for fans!

Glennsta

October 16th, 2015 at 5:02 PM ^

He could rationalize losing to us in 2012 as being due to having a bad offense that year. 

This year, he had the #2 team in the country and we were garbage, unranked. And yet, here we are, with all the 3 and 4 star talent that had gone uncoached-up for a few years now getting coached up under a guy who knows exactly how to best use whatever he has.

Our trajectory looks terrific. And next year, he'll be breaking in a new QB.  Damn straight he's got to be worried about losing.

west2

October 16th, 2015 at 3:54 PM ^

we have been waiting for.  Agree with Brian, Rudock hits some deep balls in this game, special teams put the maize and blue in great field postion all game long and sparty turns the ball over more than once.   Michigan 31 sparty 10. 

Ty Butterfield

October 16th, 2015 at 4:08 PM ^

Rudock will have to hit some deep passes and he just can't do it. Most likely Rudock throws at least 2 picks and Staee wins 24-3.

turtleboy

October 16th, 2015 at 4:10 PM ^

Conner Cook is a good qb, but he is about to have a really bad game. Our offense will have it tough at times, but their defense doesn't play smart, and Harbaugh will lead them around by the nose. Trap City, bitch.

Needs

October 16th, 2015 at 4:19 PM ^

Even if Allen, Conklin and Kieler can go, olinemen that are recovering from lower leg injuries vs this defensive line seems like a bad combo. Trying to anchor with a knee or ankle sprain against stunts from Godin, Glasgow, Henry, and Wormley all day appears .... difficult.

gobluefromutah

October 16th, 2015 at 4:32 PM ^

I know I am nowhere near the first person to say this, but I am so optimistic about this game I am scared. I think I might be excited most about seeing playcalls from Harbaugh that just utterly mess with the heads of every MSU defender on the field and by the time they figure out what happened someone is in the endzone for 6. Yet somehow I can't help worrying that MSU pulls out all the stops and somehow plays out of their minds. And then every other one of their remaining 5 games afterward they look just as overrated as they have through the first 6. Am I completely irrational?

Duval Wolverine

October 16th, 2015 at 4:46 PM ^

I think WR screens to Darboh and Chesson will hurt MSU all day with their inability to jam receivers, and the well timed fake WR screen fly to Jake Butt which will be wide open down the side line!

Go BLUE!

Newton Gimmick

October 17th, 2015 at 1:08 AM ^

was on October 13, 1990.  So technically, Tom Selleck is right.

Doing some research on this series, 1990 was also the last time there was a major upset (according to a mathematical formula).  Upsets were much more common in the UM/OSU and UM/ND series.  In this series, the better team seems to win pretty much all the time, especially at home.

If you think Michigan is the better team, there is no reason not to be confident.

markusr2007

October 16th, 2015 at 5:21 PM ^

Great preview. Thank you.

I agree.

Michigan State has been a rickety, bucket of bolts all year long.  I've been waiting ever Saturday since September for them to be exposed by Air Force or Oregon or hell even Rutgers in a black out evening away game. But at every 00:00 that useless bucket of bolts has more points than the other team.

And now here we are.  MSU is still unbeaten at 6-0, ranked 7th in AP.  They have a senior NFL quarterback with a laser-guided, Howitzer arm, 4 dangerous receivers in Burbridge, Price, Kings and Shelton and yet another Ringer-Caper-Baker-Bell-bruiser type with LJ Scott, who's dangerous as hell and has been inexpicably underutilized.

And then, in the Week 7 Coaches Poll I read that somebody, a coach, voted the Spartans as the nation's No. 1 ranked team:

Do you think Dantonio is being understimated?

I don't like it, but I think it's true.

Every damn year Dantonio brings his MSU teams - major flaws, warts, and all - into this game against Michigan very well prepared, with high levels of confidence mixed with unregulated anger and thirst for perpetual revenge. 

It says something, for example, when Mark Dantonio, who is irritated by all things, cannot  give one goddamn after witnessing 13 penalties against the Wolverines for -124 yards (2011 game), 8 penalities for -94 (2009), 8 penalities for -88 (2014) - most of these being defensive penalties. To him it is all worth it.  It's as if the season could and should end right there on the field against Michigan. Every year. Screw the rankings. Screw the title. Statement win for the program.

I agree MSU is beat up along the OL and has major flaws on defense. But their talent edge over Michigan at the skilled positions is still significant. They are a big play, clutch team, evidenced by their quarterback's play and being ranked No. 8 in the nation in 3rd conversion % in the same company of TCU, Houston, Baylor and Rice.  They suck and watching them play is painful and ugly, but they make clutch plays over and over that move chains and outscore opponents. 

I predict a Michigan win, especially upfront and against the MSU run. 

But Dantonio's scowl combined with Cook's arm and Burbridge's legs keeps this game closer than anyone is predicting right now.

Michigan 24, Michigan State 22

Newton Gimmick

October 17th, 2015 at 1:12 AM ^

you're not special

 

Great writeup otherwise though!  Just keep in mind Dantonio's had better teams every year he's won -- except possibly 2011 might have been a wash and MSU was at home -- and Michigan had (slightly) better teams the two times they beat Dantonio.  I think Michigan has a better team this year.

UMForLife

October 17th, 2015 at 8:35 AM ^

You are forgetting one thing. Every damn comment that shows how great MSU is, discounts what M can do. It is not like we have Brady Hoke as a coach. We have Jim F'ing Harbaugh. He was one play away from winning the Superbowl. We all are ready to crown 5 or 6 good players MSU has, but we are forgetting that we have much more good players than they do. Our worry is because of Cook, one WR, one TE, two DLs and two OL (and a couple of injured players). We have two good CB, at least three good DL, one special player in PEPPERS, all on Defense. I consider Drake Johnson better than or at least a match to every RB they got. We have two good OL, good FBs, one great TE, one good WR and players with a lot of potential that is still growing such as Drake Harris. And our team has shown great development under the new coach, while they regressed, even at full strength.

I disagree that they are better at skilled position. In QB, yes, but not in other positions. Our DL matches up well with their OL in fact better. Our OL will be a push against their DL, even without injuries, with Drake Johnson and Smith in the backfield.

And we have FBs who can neutralize their DL along with two good Tight Ends.

If we lose, it is not because they have better talent. They don't. It is because they had the best breaks. I don't even think Rudock will need to be at his best, as I think we will find a way to run the ball on them even if we get stuffed a few times.