Preview: Michigan State 2011 Comment Count

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WHAT Michigan vs State
WHERE Spartan Stadium, East Lansing, MI
WHEN Noon Eastern, October 15th 2011
THE LINE State –2.5
TELEVISION National on ESPN
WEATHER mid-50s, partly cloudy, 10% chance of rain, windy

BRAHBRAHBRAHBRAHBRAHBRAH

Run Offense vs. Michigan State

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Jerel Worthy: self-trolled

This is an irresistible force versus immovable object matchup that pairs the nation's #7 rushing offense against its #1 rushing defense. Massive schedule strength caveats apply to both numbers.

Michigan State has played a I-AA team and I-A's #111, #94, #48, and #31 rushing offenses. The two good opponents were Ohio State, against whom MSU got a healthy dose of Bauserbombs and nine sacks, and Notre Dame, whose primary tailbacks combined for 126 yards on 26 carries—4.8 a pop. MSU did shut down an Ohio State rushing offense that did well against Nebraska, Colorado, and Miami (That Miami). There is plenty of there there.

A large part of the there is in the person and Missouri-themed tattoo of NT Jerel Worthy. Worthy is being talked about as a potential first round draft pick and has tormented Michigan the last two years by jumping snap counts and generally being impossible to to run against. Michigan will have to block him, and get his snap-timing ways off guard. If you let him jump a snap your play is done. Trap him, counter him, do various things to him that exploit his aggression.

The rest of the line is inexperienced. With Tyler Hoover out for the year the ends are one-time Michigan prospect Marcus Rush, a redshirt freshman, and hyped true sophomore William Gholston. Gholston got a lot of hype during the Ohio State game but that turned out to be mostly for running down the backside of the play and tackling for loss when State's massive blitzing forced tailbacks to cut back. When Ohio State blocked him he stayed blocked; his pass rush moves are rudimentary. He remains a physical marvel. Rush is a smaller DE in the mold of a Roh who's quick around the edge and has some issues holding up.

Chris Norman, Max Bullough, and Denicos Allen are the linebackers. Allen you may remember executing the flying squirrel sack on Bauserman late in the OSU game. Norman and Bullough are four-star types with a modicum of experience. They aren't Greg Jones, but they're obviously not a huge downgrade.

As for Michigan, their merry train of destruction was slowed considerably by Northwestern. Denard managed his hundred or so yards but the tailbacks had grim days. This was due in part to Northwestern stacking the line to the point where they gave up 13 YPA. Michigan State is like Iowa in that they are loathe to do that, preferring a standard 4-3 cover two against all offenses from maximum spread 'n' shred to maximum MANBALL. They blitz from time to time but rarely.

Michigan has had issues running power, first from under center (now abandoned) and increasingly from the shotgun. They've started running a lot of two-back, one-TE sets from the shotgun, de-spreading the spread and packing the box, and they've been running away from Taylor Lewan, their best drive-blocking OL, because they evidently don't trust RG Patrick Omameh to pull. Finding a way to make Michigan State defend both sides of the line and giving them things other than plain old power will be important—MSU sees that stuff every day all day in practice and Michigan's line is not built to move guys off the ball.

Key Matchup: Borges vs finding ways to get the edge. Michigan State's linebackers are young and the defensive ends younger. Worthy is large and the interior OL is not prepped to drive-block him. Speed options, veers, pitches, rollouts, zone read variations, stretch blocking—Michigan has to get outside the tackles effectively.

Pass Offense vs. Michigan State

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Tacopants via Spawn of MZone; MSU's Johnny Adams

Denard Robinson's interception rate has shot up this year to a staggering 8.6%. He thrown 9 picks in 104 attempts after throwing 11 in 291 last year. That is a hell of a step backwards. If Denard's INT rate remains at that level Saturday, Michigan loses.

Denard INTs have come in two flavors this year: extremely bad decisions to throw deep into coverage (all three against ND) and massive overthrows (all three against NW), with some combining both aspects into one debilitating cocktail of depression. Over the past two weeks Denard has shown considerable progression in his accuracy (65% against NW, much better than that against Minnesota) at the same time he's made a ton of horrible overthrows. He seemed to fix his issues in the second half against Northwestern—maintaining that through the Michigan State game, especially in the face of pressure, will make Michigan's path to victory much clearer.

Michigan's receivers are the opposite of MSU's: a deep bunch without a true star. Junior Hemingway and his ability to high-point underthrown deep balls are the closest thing.

State's secondary is pretty good. Their safeties make mistakes from time to time but not too many; the cornerbacks are tough guys who make you earn your completions short and long. That's the impression from the Notre Dame game, anyway. There is no other data worth looking at.

Their line is 21st in sacks thanks to the nine against Ohio State; they have five in their other four games, one against Notre Dame on a stunt that was not picked up. Michigan is first nationally, allowing two in five official games. Part of that is Michigan not passing much—they're just over 20 attempts per game—and part of that is defenses sitting back lest they get too aggressive and spring Robinson into the secondary. Unfortunately for Michigan, even token pressure has caused Robinson to fling inadvisable or inaccurate balls—they don't need to swarm him to be productive.

State will sit back in a cover two and play a ton of zone, forcing Denard to be patient for holes to open up and hit spots in the zone with good timing. He's done it before… he's also imploded spectacularly.

Key Matchup: Denard vs Accuracy. Forever and ever this key matchup until Denard's missing at a rate that forces defenses to fear him in the air. Is this possible? Absolutely—a lot of spread QBs have light-on moments. Until it happens it hasn't happened.

Run Defense vs. Michigan State

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Edwin Baker; Dan France having a sad last year, wearing a DL number

A year after... actually, nevermind. I was going to contrast this year's MSU run offense with last year's but it turns out Michigan State was mediocre in 2010, finishing 64th in yardage and 49th in YPC. Their 249 yards against Michigan said more about Michigan than State, but you knew that already.

That was with the assistance of an offensive line. This year they don't have one of those. Both guards return and are okay, though Joel Foreman was the guy getting schooled by Aaron Lynch late in the Notre Dame game. It's the other three spots that are a concern. At right tackle, redshirt freshman starter Skyler Burkland broke a bone in his ankle and is out for the year, leaving fresh-off-the-JUCO Fou Fonoti the starter. At left tackle, converted DT Dan France has emerged as the starter after Jared McGaha proved to be not very good at football. Redshirt freshman Travis Jackson returns from injury to replace injured converted DT Blake Treadwell—he was supposed to be the starter at the start of the season.

As a result, the same tailbacks who were okay last year can't run this year. Like, at all. In their two games against BCS competition, Michigan State has rushed for 2.2 YPC against Notre Dame and 3.3 YPC against Ohio State, sacks removed.* They managed 4.2 against Florida Atlantic, an 0-5 Sun Belt team, and 4.6 against Central Michigan, which lost to Western Michigan by about the same score they did against State. That is their rushing year against I-A competition. Opponent with pulse == shut down. Without pulse == mediocre production.

So, does Michigan's rushing defense have a pulse? Unfortunately we can still do no better than "maybe" at this point in the season. Plausible opponents to date:

Opponent Att Yards TD YPC
Northwestern 21 133 3 6.3
SDSU 28 137 0 4.9
Notre Dame 33 209 1 6.3

Non-plausible opponent Eastern Michigan also managed 4.5 YPC. Those numbers aren't any more encouraging than State's.

The UFRs have detailed one of the major causes of the big numbers put up by opponents: weakness on the edge. Freshman SLB Jake Ryan has been a major source of these issues but indecisiveness from the other linebackers has also "helped." Last week Northwestern exposed yet more edge weakness on a series of option plays.  State will try to exploit that, but Kirk Cousins isn't running the triple option and while their tailbacks have some quickness, Bell and Baker are more north-south guys whose effectiveness wanes when their shoulders are square to the LOS. Expect Martin jet sweeps, possibly out of a wildcat look.

On the interior, Michigan isn't great. Neither is State—their OL cannot get to the second level. A couple of screwups by Michigan linebackers will grant State a few chunk runs and the steady power diet will chew up 2-4 yards at a time; Michigan will still put up its best YPC effort of the year against the Spartans.

Key Matchup: Will Heininger and Will Campbell against the MSU interior line. Michigan's three-tech has been a sore spot against the pro-style formations MSU figures to spend much of its day in. If the three tech can hold up, Michigan State isn't going to move anyone else on the line and those erratic yards on the edge will be easy enough to weather.

*[I also removed a -12 yard carry from Cousins against OSU and two "team" carries for -9 yards. IIRC the Cousins thing was a fumbled shotgun snap he fell on.]

Pass Defense vs. Michigan State

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oh good, an enormous NFL wide receiver wearing #3 again

Kirk Cousins is Kirk Cousins: pretty good, not great, somewhat prone to the yips when pressured. He was 20 of 32 against OSU for 7.8 YPA; he also threw a touchdown and two interceptions. Against ND they had to rely on his arm almost exclusively and he put went 34 of 53 for 6.2 YPA, a touchdown, and an interception.

In both games a large bulk of his production came through BJ Cunningham, the hulking senior who is the Big Ten's best Michael Floyd impersonator. Cunningham has 38 catches for nearly 600 yards already. He's a lock to be all Big Ten and Michigan's going to give up ten catches for 150 yards. Brace yourself.

There's little past Cunningham. Slot guy Keshawn Martin figures to get involved on the edge as Michigan State tests out Michigan's evident weakness against bubble screens—Cunningham doubles as a tight-end-sized blocker out there—and former QB Keith Nichol has made catches here and there. WR depth remains a major issue. MSU runs out a bunch of tight ends, computer distribution expert Dion Sims most prominently, and throws screens and dumpoffs to the backs. Downfield threats begin and end with Cunningham. MSU does expect Bennie Fowler back. He had 14 catches last year as a freshman and may be a better non-Cunningham option than the guys on the field to date.

The line is also an issue here. Though Cousins was only sacked twice against ND and zero times against OSU, the line picked up a bunch of holding calls trying to keep their QB alive and it seems like Cousins's internal clock has accelerated to the point where he's not letting certain plays develop.

Though Michigan's remarkable streak of not being totally awful continued against Northwestern, the M secondary exposed some flaws against Dan Persa and company. Persa averaged 7.5 YPA and his interception was of the WR gift variety*. Freshman Blake Countess got beat on a 39-yard fade and Michigan gave up an average of 7.1 yards on nine bubble screens. JT Floyd has emerged into a reliable, average-ish Big Ten corner and Countess is promising, but Troy Woolfolk's perpetual injury issues have seen him rendered largely ineffective. He's been pulled for Countess before garbage time each of the last three weeks.

And Michigan's safeties are extant. Jordan Kovacs and Thomas Gordon have not let a long run past them this year, nor have they blown a deep coverage. They are clueful. Things get a little dodgy when Gordon slides down to the nickel and Carvin Johnson comes in, but Michigan's days as Free Touchdown U have come to an end. Michigan showed a little nickel with Courtney Avery in and Gordon deep against NW, but pulled that once the bubbles rained down—on passing downs I bet Michigan goes with the three corners and keeps Johnson on the bench.

Michigan's pass rush has been okay. After a slow start they've picked it up; Dan Persa was sacked four times last week. Mike Martin and Ryan Van Bergen are capable of getting pressure by themselves, but a lack of consistent production from the defensive ends has been a problem. Mattison compensates with frequent zone blitzes.

*[Northwestern also managed an incompletion charged to "Team." What?]

Key Matchup: Mattison zone blitzing versus Cousins's head. This should be the perfect situation for Mattison to loose his devious NFL blitz packages against a rag-tag bunch of crappy, confused offensive linemen. The catch is the veteran senior quarterback behind that OL. Cousins has proven ill-equipped to handle pressure in the past—how he deals with it Saturday is a major key.

Special Teams

State's punting looks atrocious thanks to a blocked or fumbled zero-yarder; when actually getting punts away Mike Sadler has been okay. He averages about 40 yards. Nick Hill has done well in limited opportunities as the kick returner, and Martin is a large threat to rip off a long punt return when Michigan's gunners don't get the job done. On the other hand, State has given up a kick return touchdown of its own this year. Kicker Dan Conroy is 6 of 9 on the year after going 14 of 15 last year.

Michigan can now kick field goals up to 38 yards, maybe, has terrible kickoffs—they were a bit better against NW but Wile put one out of bounds—can't return anything for any yards, and has a punter who should hypothetically be righteous but missed the first four games due to suspension and is averaging 38 yards on three kicks since that suspension expired. Advantage MSU.

Key Matchup: AAAAAH GIBBONS YOU PUT IT THROUGH THE UPRIGHTS

Intangibles

 

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Cheap Thrills

Worry if...

  • Michigan again lets State win the overpreparation-for-a-single-game battle.
  • The State run defense shows up at maximum legitness.
  • Denard isn't stepping into throws.

Cackle with knowing glee if...

  • Jerel Worthy is picking up offsides calls early.
  • Mattison blitz packages cause OL head explosion fiesta.
  • Borges has a crazy package that is crazy effective.

Fear/Paranoia Level: 7 (Baseline 5; +1 for Oh Good It's Michael Floyd Again, +1 for Actual Road Game Instead Of Neutral Site Chicago, +1 for Spartan Overpreparation Now Actually Working, –1 for Opponent Offensive Line Best Compared To Michigan 2008, –1 for Strong Possibility Terrible Interception Battle Is A Draw, +1 for Even A Fraudulent #1 Run Defense Is Probably Pretty Good.)

Desperate need to win level: 10 (Baseline 5; +1 for Must End The Brahgasm, +1 for This Is Not 2009 Or 2010, +1 for Winner Is Strong Division Favorite, +1 for We Have A Countdown Clock For This Now, +1 for Juggalo Invasion Revenge Tour.)

Loss will cause me to... scream "I HAVE TWO COMPUTER ENGINEERING DEGREES" to thousands of people in green Affliction t-shirts.

Win will cause me to... unironically proclaim Brady Hoke gets it, chant "just like basketball," post Vincent Smith fingerguns.

The strictures and conventions of sportswriting compel me to predict:

Flip a coin.

I have no feel for how the game will go. I can see blowouts both ways. Michigan State: M OL cannot get push, coaches cannot invent ways to run, Denard throws three picks. Michigan: MSU OL combines with Martin and Mattison zone blitzes to leave the MSU offense a quivering hunk of goo and youth on the edge for Michigan State lets Denard rack up video game numbers.

None of that seems particularly likely. Neither do a lot of points, especially with wind potentially hampering deep balls on both sides. Offenses move in fits and starts with Borges getting some gashes and Michigan's addiction to power it can't run very well putting Denard behind the sticks; Michigan State can't run consistently either, and they can't protect Cousins well enough to convert third downs.

Special teams look like a tiebreaker to me, with State's field goal kicker an established one and their return units far more likely to rip off a long one, especially since Michigan can't get more than two guys within 20 yards of a punt returner on the catch.

Finally, three opportunities for me to look stupid Sunday:

  • Newly stride-y Denard looks more like he did in the second half against NW than the first half, cuts down on the terrihorrible overthrows, and puts up numbers that surprise many. Still throws mind-bending INT.
  • Mattison blitzes Cousins into two turnovers.
  • Something goes very wrong on special teams, likely a long return.
  • Michigan State, 22-19

Comments

Franz Schubert

October 14th, 2011 at 2:05 PM ^

But im mystified how a team with what is obviously a glaring weakness on the O line, is getting the benefit of the doubt? If UM had struggled on the line and running the ball as MSU has, I would be less than optimistic.

Deep Under Cover

October 14th, 2011 at 3:10 PM ^

The way I see it is they have to score points to beat us, and I am not sure as to how they will do that outside of Cunningham, and he can't outscore us himself.  Hell, Floyd scortched us for a whole bunch of yards but he never scored, did he?

lhglrkwg

October 14th, 2011 at 5:31 PM ^

My fear is more of us scoring on them. The last 2 years have forever engrained in me that our spread offense is a paper tiger just waiting to be shutdown. If they can fluster Denard, they've already done 80% of the work right there. I fear them winning like 17-14 or something

Drbogue

October 14th, 2011 at 2:08 PM ^

"computer distribution expert Dion Sims most prominently"

I love this. I'm assuming you were subtley dropping in this guy's major. It always makes Kinesiology sound like the real deal.

Brian, should you make a post listing the most ridiculous degrees? I remember last year's OSU game when the long-snapper had the highest grade point average of 3.91 while majoring in (if I remember correctly) - "hospitality administration."

Go Blue!

Drbogue

October 14th, 2011 at 2:26 PM ^

So Dantonio translated that felony into an internship to justify his reinstatement on the team. Perhaps a minor in criminal nonjustice? I was laughing because it sounds like one of those associate degrees advertised by Sally Struthers such as TV/VCR repair or gun repair.

mgokev

October 14th, 2011 at 2:14 PM ^

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's a reference to Dion Sims being caught for stealing a bunch of computers from Detroit Public School System and not a reference to his major.

HoldTheRope

October 14th, 2011 at 2:11 PM ^

Dangit Brian, I was reading the post and hoping for a Michigan win prediction at the end to allay some of my nervousness...it can't be noon tomorrow soon enough. I think it'll be slightly more high scoring than you do but assuming something ridiculous doesn't happen in the special teams then I like our chances. 

bronxblue

October 14th, 2011 at 2:13 PM ^

I want UM to beat MSU because they look like the better team, but this is kind of how rivalries should go - both teams are close enough talent-wise that the home team has the advantage, and the game comes down to the last couple of minutes. 

That said, I do think that Worthy will be stymied by the offensive line and a lack of snap-jumping.  I've caught a couple of their games this year, and against non-first-year QBs they have struggled to get penetration, and Denard knows the offense far more today than last year.  The running games will be a wash, but if the wind is as bad as it sounds like it will, passing will be at a premium.  That's where the Denard advantage takes over - Cousins is mobile, but he's not going to be able to pick up yards with his feet.  So all of those 3rd-and-5/6 downs where you have the option to run or pass, MSU will probably need to throw while UM at least has a viable option to run for the first with Denard.  It might only happen 2-3 times, but windy conditions lead to balls fluttering out at weird angles and speeds, oftentimes off-target. 

Given that, I agree that MSU has the advantage right now simply because they are at home, they've won the past 3 games, have had a week to prepare, and honestly take this more seriously than any other game on their schedule.  They are all minor factors, but added together give them the slight edge.  I do have a sense, though, that this UM team is at a special place, one we haven't see the past couple of years under Carr (ignore 2006) through RR.  This is a team that has weathered storms and gotten better as the year progressed, even if on an absolute scale it hasn't been that dramatic.  The past couple of years, UM would have come into this game with massive questions on offense and defense, typically after giving up 25+ points to IU or UMass or failing to score against Toledo.  We would all be hoping that they can smoke-and-mirrors this game away.  But this year, the defense (if not as good as its top-10 scoring defense) is at worst average, and the offense is still dynamic enough to roll over bad teams and keep pace with good teams.  It is a team with a coherent message and plan on both sides of the ball, and some real depth at key positions (like the DL and defensive backfield) that were previously barren.  It is a team with a real chance to win the division and compete for a good bowl game, one that is 6-0 and done it against some decent (Minny excluded) teams. 

MSU may win tomorrow, but I think most of them would admit that this UM team scares them not just because of the talent on the field now, but how the team looks going forward.  Next year MSU loses a bunch of their talent and have had meh recruiting cycles behind them.  UM, on the other hand, is still relatively young and has a bright future on the recruiting trail.  I don't expect UM to suddenly dominate this series like they did in years past (MSU is still a good team and Dantonio, jerk he is, has a legit plan), but it feels like the world is starting to right itself after a couple years of insanity.

bronxblue

October 14th, 2011 at 3:32 PM ^

I'm not sure it even has to go to a hard count - I agree I don't remember Denard using it, but again it is not stuff I typically notice during a game.  It is more about simply keeping Worthy at bay with different snap counts and the like.  Now, I'm not remotely knowledgeable about the snap, but even going on a quick count versus a longer count would be enough - if Worthy expects the hike at a 2 count and Denard uses a 3 or 4 count, that might be enough for Worthy to bite. 

MI Expat NY

October 14th, 2011 at 4:52 PM ^

It's not about drawing an offsides call, as in fooling the D-lineman with your voice.  It's about varying your snap counts if audible or the rhythm of the silent count to make sure that the D-lineman is reacting to the ball, not your repetitive snap count/rhythm.  If Worthy picks up an offsides or two it won't be because of a hard count, it will be because he was busted trying to cheat.

FrankMurphy

October 14th, 2011 at 2:18 PM ^

The game hinges on Denard's arm. If he can maintain his 65% completion rate from the NW game and limit his picks to 1 or 0, we win. If he throws 2 or more picks, we lose. 

BlueLotCrew

October 14th, 2011 at 3:38 PM ^

Denard going balls deep doesn't matter. If Big Willy Style goes balls deep and rips Capt. Kirk's neck from his torso, I will feel OK with it.  This one will come down to T.O.s. If we can win that stat, we win the game. UM 34, MSU 27.  Sparty gets put back in his place... the basement of the Legends division.

BlueLotCrew

October 14th, 2011 at 3:43 PM ^

If he chose State, it just shows the he "is NOT research."  Seriously, if you wantched any of MSU this year, you know that they should have 2 losses.  Well, after Saturday, they will.  Weather will not be a factor, and as long as they don't pull a Notre Dame and fertilize the hell out of that shitty field to slow the track down, Doobie and Fitz will run wild on them.  Get your popcorn ready... you can cook it over a couch in E Lansing.

 

CompleteLunacy

October 14th, 2011 at 2:30 PM ^

Luck has heavily favored Michigan this year. The last three years...not so much. It's silly to count on being lucky to win, and I'm certainly not doing that...but there's more and more mounting evidence that Michigan is creating its own luck this year. Sparty also had a disproportionately large amounts of luck in the last two games against us, so I look for that to at least even out this game. 

The deciding factor for tomorrow ultimately will be the running game. How effective can we get Denard and the RBs free? Can we stop MSU's running attack with a bandaid of an offensive line, and turn them into a one-dimensional offense? If both of those are "yes" we lead early and win solidly. If both of those are "no" we trail early and eventually lose. If one is "yes" and the other is "no"...then turnovers will decide the game and it is a coinflip. What do i think will happen? I honestly don't know. I think Michigan has the edge, but only narrowly, and that's with my blatantly obvious homerism showing. 

The score will be in the 20's, something like 28-27. Who wins...I'd rather not speculate and jinx it.  It is literally a tossup, and I'll leave it at that.

FrankMurphy

October 14th, 2011 at 3:29 PM ^

Our defense still isn't outstanding (or tremendous, if you will), but it's becoming increaingly clear that they're well-coached on how to force fumbles and create turnovers. That's one thing that our defense was clueless on last year but is excelling at this year and can hopefully catch Sparty's offense off guard. 

onderlin

October 14th, 2011 at 2:34 PM ^

2 TDs, 1 missed PAT, 2 FGs...
3 TDs, 2 missed PATs...

3 TDs, 1 missed PAT, 1 missed 2pt-conv...

For a team that can't make field goals, 19 seems like an odd score to predict.

Wolverine 73

October 14th, 2011 at 2:37 PM ^

I don't know what the score will be, and I don't know if it will be close or not, but the determination of the seniors to overcome the frustration of the last three years, Hoke's focus on the game since day one, a vastly improved Michigan defense and the weak MSU offensive line translate into a Michigan win, in my opinion.

dcmaizeandblue

October 14th, 2011 at 2:42 PM ^

If our big concern with the rush defense was that OSU was able to run sort of I'm still not very worried.  They can certainly prove me wrong but at this point I fail to see how people aren't mentioning the vast overratedness of MSU's D.

funkywolve

October 14th, 2011 at 3:39 PM ^

ND only had 3 drives that were longer than 26 yds.  One ND touchdown was pick 6.  ND's FG came when MSU turned it over on their own 12.  ND ran 3 plays for -4 yds and kicked a FG. 

MSU's defense probably isn't the best in the country but it's probably not swiss cheese either.

bronxblue

October 14th, 2011 at 3:40 PM ^

My only counter is that ND had the game comfortably in hand by the early part of the 3rd quarter, when Kelly started just running the ball to kill the clock.  Before then, ND had scoring drives of 76, 92, and 71, plus an 89-yard kickoff TD.  So while ND didn't bomb MSU quite like they did UM's defense, it wasn't like MSU was shutting them down ND on most of their drives.

funkywolve

October 14th, 2011 at 5:53 PM ^

After ND went up 28-10, they ran 9 pass plays and 7 running plays.  Before that (not including 2 running plays at the end of the first half to kill the clock) ND had run 18 pass plays and 20 running plays.  So to say Kelly just started running ball once they had a nice lead is inaccurate.

WolvinLA2

October 14th, 2011 at 2:43 PM ^

Really lame that you're picking us to lose.  We will win, and that's final. 

But in all honesty, if you think it's a coin flip and you're predicting a down-to-the-wire game, why not pick Michigan to win?

K

October 14th, 2011 at 2:43 PM ^

I just keep telling myself: 3 INTs, still scored 42 points.  Even if he throws a mind-bending INT vs. State, M is still scoring 30 points.  

Go blue.

micheal honcho

October 14th, 2011 at 2:44 PM ^

The statement about Michigan running power not very well and putting Denard "behind the sticks" seems backward to me.

One of the most glaring differences between this yr's offensive team and previous years is a glaring lack of 3rd and Rod. Even gaining a measly 2yds on 1st down, as our "power" plays seem to be doing, is proving itself a dramatic improvement on the overall prospects of achieving the next first down, continueing the drive and keeping the D on the bench.

So many slow developing plays from 7yds deep in the backfield resulted in 2nd and 11ish followed by the accompanying 3rd and Rod play that, while it was capable of a touchdown from anywhere on the field, was also putting your playcalling at a real disadvantage as far as what options you have.

micheal honcho

October 14th, 2011 at 3:55 PM ^

A guy who's username is Promote RichRod accusing someone of stupidity. Thats precious.

 

When I get time I'll check what our average 3rd down was last year vs. this year.

 

I'm also curious to compare gross # of 1st downs thru 6 games for the respective years.

 

Time of possesion is already clearly in the favor of this year so I suspect the other 2 will support that.

Just looking at gross rushing stats without applying or evaluating situational factors is actually pretty damn stupid, but dont let that stop you.

RagingBean

October 14th, 2011 at 4:11 PM ^

I am seriously baffled by your comments. The complaints about the offense last year was that it wasn't efficient in the red zone, not that it forced Denard to perpetually play behind the sticks. Michigan rarely had a problem picking up 1st down until they got to the 20, when the field compressed and they got pressured. Your argument is just...not supported by anything I remember.

robmorren2

October 14th, 2011 at 2:46 PM ^

I really don't think MSU's defense is better than ND's. With the caliber of ND's recruits, Teo, a good/great front ... we'll move the ball until/unless we turn it over. Team with the better O-line usually wins.