Preview: Michigan State Comment Count

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THE ESSENTIALS

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WHAT Michigan (13-8, 6-3 B1G) at
Michigan State (14-7, 5-3)
WHERE Breslin Center,
East Lansing, Michigan
WHEN 1 pm ET, Sunday
LINE MSU -8 (KenPom)
TV CBS
PBP: Ian Eagle
Analyst: Bill Raftery

THE US

This is ominous:

This is more ominous:

If that's on the table, it doesn't sound like Walton will play; even if he does, he'll still be quite limited. At this stage, it might be best to shut him down for a while.

THE STAKES

This isn't a must-win for Michigan's tournament hopes, but a victory would help their prospects quite a bit. KenPom currently projects M to finish with a 10-8 conference record, and they'll need that to be at least 11-7 to have a good shot of grabbing a bid, in all likelihood. Of the remaining games on the schedule, this is the one KenPom least likes M to win—his numbers give a 17% chance at victory. Pulling this off would change the outlook dramatically.

THE LINEUP CARD

Projected starters are in bold. Hover over headers for stat explanations; I've switched over to conference-only stats for %Min and %Poss now. The "Should I Be Mad If He Hits A Three" methodology: we're mad if a guy who's not good at shooting somehow hits one. Yes, you're still allowed to be unhappy if a proven shooter is left open. It's a free country.

Pos. # Name Yr. Ht./Wt. %Min %Poss SIBMIHHAT
G 20 Travis Trice Sr. 6'0, 170 82 25 No
Disciplined and productive distributor. Dangerous outside shooter. Not great inside arc.
G 5 Bryn Forbes Jr. 6'3, 180 69 14 No
Spot-up gunner hitting 47% of threes.
G 45 Denzel Valentine Jr. 6'5, 220 70 28 No
Does a bit of everything: rebounding, passing, shooting, and hilarious turnovers.
F 22 Branden Dawson Sr. 6'6, 225 82 22 Very
Great athlete, monster on the boards, excellent defender. Not a shot creator.
F 34 Gavin Schilling So. 6'9, 240 45 20 Very
Solid rebounder and rim protector. Decent finisher.
F 10 Matt Costello Jr. 6'9, 245 45 18 Very
Very similar minutes and profile as Schilling. Eminently elbowable face.
G 11 Lowrawls "Tum Tum" Nairn Fr. 5'10, 170 37 13 Very
All-pass, no-shoot PG who's prone to freshman mistakes.
G 2 Javon Bess Fr. 6'5, 215 29 16 Kinda
Good rebounder, defender earned starting job before spraining ankle. May be limited.

THE RESUME

While MSU has come close to a marquee win a few times—a five-point loss against #12 Kansas, overtime losses to #13 Notre Dame and #34 Maryland—they've yet to beat a team ranked higher than #44 Iowa on KenPom. With the exception of losses against Texas Southern and Nebraska, they've beaten the teams they should and lost to the teams you'd expect.

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THE THEM

Like Michigan, the Spartans lost a great deal since last year: Adreian Payne, Gary Harris, and Keith Appling were all big-time players who are now gone, and losing stretch four Kenny Kaminski hurt, too.

That means much of the scoring load has fallen on Travis Trice and Denzel Valentine, tertiary options last year who've been thrust into leading roles. Trice has gone from a guy who was often asked to be a spot-up shooter to the main ballhandler—something he's done quite well—and leading scorer. He's a dangerous outside shooter who's still not much of a threat inside the arc.

Valentine remains a solid all-around player—he's second on the team in points, rebounds, and assists per game—and he's upped his efficiency thanks to improved shooting across the board. His turnover rate remains above 20%, though; he'll make a couple decisions per game that bring Izzo ever closer to a rage-aneurysm.

Transfer Bryn Forbes has regained the starting two-guard spot after briefly losing it to freshman Javon Bess. After Forbes got off to a slow start, he's become to spot-up gunner MSU was hoping for when he came in from Cleveland State—he's hitting 47% of his threes on the season and has knocked down over half his attempts in conference play. While he doesn't do much else, he has to be accounted for at all times. Bess is a better rebounder and defender, though not much of a scorer, and he started three straight games before a sprained ankle in practice limited him to just nine minutes in State's most recent game.

Branden Dawson is Branden Dawson: a hellacious force on the boards, an excellent defender, and a guy who's usually going to end up scoring double figures on shots that rarely originate outside the paint. His efficiency has taken a hit as State has relied on him more offensively, but he'll be a really tough matchup for Michigan's wings.

Gavin Schilling and Matt Costello split minutes at the five evenly, and they bring pretty much the same skill-set to the lineup. Both are solid finishers around the basket who post good rebounding and block rates. Schilling remains foul-prone but not to the outrageous degree he was last season as a freshman.

The other rotation player of note is point guard Lourawls "Tum Tum" Nairn, a diminutive, low-usage freshman who's a decent passer but not much of a scoring threat at all.

THE TEMPO-FREE

We've got enough of a sample size that these stats are now conference-only.


Four Factors explanation

This is definitely an Izzo team. The defense, ranked first in the conference, dominates the paint and gives up very few second-chance opportunities. They also a foul a lot, but make up for it by giving up few good looks from inside or out.

The MSU offense is great on the glass and otherwise pretty average. They haven't shot the ball very well in conference play, and they're coughing up the rock more than is ideal, but they've largely made up for that with their work on the boards.

THE KEYS

Limit Dawson. Dawson missed both regular-season losses against Michigan last season, then went off in MSU's Big Ten tourney blowout, and GRIII was a much better matchup for Dawson than Zak Irvin. While Irvin's been better on the boards of late, he'll have to turn in one of the best performances of his career to limit Dawson's output.

Risk the zone? John Beilein will have a tough choice as to what to do defensively. Playing man could expose the team's weaknesses up front, but Trice and Forbes will be accounted for on the perimeter. Playing zone could get Michigan off and running against a State squad prone to turnovers—which could be huge given their defense's stingy nature—but it could pose problems against MSU's outside shooters and rebounders.

Attack the basket. There's going to be a lot of pressure on MAAR to create offense with Walton likely out. MAAR's looked good recently, showing off both the ability to get to the rim and finish once he gets there. That could be exactly what M needs against MSU, which doesn't give up many outside shots but hacks quite a bit when opponents get into the paint. To keep up with State, Michigan is likely going to need to get to the line a lot more than they usually do.

THE SECTION WHERE I PREDICT THE SAME THING KENPOM DOES

Michigan State by 8.

Going into Breslin without Walton (or with a very limited Walton) is a scary proposition, and MSU's rebounding could be very tough to handle for M's front line.

ELSEWHERE

UMHoops preview. Maize n Brew preview. MnB's Drew Hallett on the four-year anniversary of the Aneurysm of Leadership/Stu Douglass dagger game in Breslin:

All of this success for Michigan, which the program hadn't experienced for two decades, can be traced back to that Douglass three-pointer. Sure, a claim can be made Michigan would have made it here once Burke arrived even if Douglass missed that shot and the Spartans won on the final possession. But that'd be vastly underestimating the effect that win had on that locker room and the impressionable culture of Michigan basketball.

MLive's Brendan Quinn on Max Bielfeldt's uncertain future—John Beilein may be considering the possibility of bringing Moose back for his final year of eligibility:

"I think we'll stay with where we are right now," Beilein said of the original option for Bielfeldt to depart as a graduate transfer. "He's going to have all kinds of decisions probably at the end of the year on different things, but I think that's the best plan going forward. He should be playing right now, so if he does want to play a fifth year, he would be very highly recruited. Whether it's (by) me or someone else, that's the puzzle we've got to put together."

That decision may depend on whether Michigan can add a big man to their currently empty 2015 class.

Comments

CoachBP6

January 31st, 2015 at 3:29 PM ^

I think Michigan will get dominated on the glass. How Michigan responds will likely decide the contest. Let's go blue.

umchicago

January 31st, 2015 at 3:37 PM ^

break it out and play aggressively up top.  create those TOs.  sparty stinks in the paint in the half court offense.  dawson, schilling and costello get most of their points on second chance putbacks or on the break.

and spike, please break out of you january slump and hit some 3s.  zero 3s made in his last six games.  not gonna cut it, especially with walton limited.

A State Fan

January 31st, 2015 at 3:43 PM ^

not sure a 1-3-1 is the best solution, because I think with Dawson/schilling you open up a few lob/easy rebound opportunities. If I'm Michigan I think I'd rather play man and force MSU to win with Dawson/schilling creating their own offense. MSU is a very good passing team, and their shooting against zone defenses has been good this year.

umchicago

January 31st, 2015 at 3:53 PM ^

corner 3s are what hurt the 1-3-1.  valentine is the only one that can hit those.  and i think he will need to help the guards up top in breaking through that zone.

that said, JB will definitely mix it up.  he may even extend his 2-3 zone hybrid to make it difficult to shoot 3s.

i welcome all plays set up for dawson, schilling and costello.

SDCran

January 31st, 2015 at 4:13 PM ^

Are what Forbes does.....well, that and travel every time he touches the ball. If you want to pull your hair out, watch Forbes' feet all day. If he doesn't catch and shoot, he shuffles his feet about 4 times before dribbling. Over/under on legit travels that could be called on him and won't ? I'd open that line at 10.

umumum

January 31st, 2015 at 5:39 PM ^

think he is traveling that often and it isn't being called, then perhaps you are confused on what is a travel.  Forbes ain't good enough to get Michael Jordan treatment from the refs.

SDCran

January 31st, 2015 at 8:57 PM ^

and let know. Ball fake, move both feet, then start to dribble. He gets called for 1-2 of them every game, but he does it constantly. His feet never stop moving. He had a critical one called in the last 30 seconds of a game recently. He looked confused, and the color announcer was laughing at him.

I will admit, it is a pet peeve of mine. There are some guys that get called for it every time they do it, and others that rarely do. He is one of the latter.

umumum

January 31st, 2015 at 5:40 PM ^

as pointed out above, the corner 3 is Forbes favorite shot---and, again, he's shooting over 50% on those.  And there is literally no worse defense to minimize offensive rebounding.  The 1-3-1 is not a good option other than to make MSU think about it.

champswest

January 31st, 2015 at 6:48 PM ^

with our current available roster and it is pretty much a must win for MSU.  I don't like our chances unless we have a really hot shooting day (and we are due for one of those).

allintime23

January 31st, 2015 at 7:35 PM ^

I would laugh until the super bowl half time show if we somehow won this game. A small part of me wouldn't be surprised if we did. It all comes down to if the three ball is falling. Let's hope it does.

Ty Butterfield

February 1st, 2015 at 1:41 AM ^

I am going go avoid this game. I can't start drinking that early in the day. Hopefully Walton will be a little more healthy for the rematch.

Harbaugh Very Much

February 1st, 2015 at 7:47 AM ^

First: someone needs to put together film of Brenden Dawson playing poorly and make him watch it until he slams his fist.  

Second:  Someone should have an aneurysm of leadership. I predict it will be Dakich's dancing that makes him this year's Zach Novak.

Third: Someone should ask Izzo about how he can survive with so many injuries and how it feels to be 60 in the pre-game.  

Fourth:  Our first shot/3's need to hit so rebounding isn't an issue. 

Fifth:  Win the game. 

We do all that and our weirdos v. their weirdos will cruise to victory.  

dragonchild

February 1st, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^

"While MSU has come close to a marquee win a few times. . . they've yet to beat a team ranked higher than #44 Iowa on KenPom."

The football teams got slaughtered in non-conf then punched above their weight in bowl season.  It'd be interesting to see the same happen in basketball; i.e., all the B1G teams get in with low seeds and then make a bracket racket.

scottiek65

February 1st, 2015 at 2:18 PM ^

I am proud of the boys. This is a well coached team. Leading most the half. M S Who? this is the most anonymous game in the recent history of the rivalry, you see the depth issues playing Lonergan and Dakich extended minutes. Second fouls to Dawkins, MAAR, and Spike exacerbated the situation. Still, the quality of coaching is showing, no surprise MSU is much better at rebounding and that along with better 3PT % off OReb is the difference, I am proud though, and this makes me much more confident for Michigans future. I like the way we have defended outside the boards which we conceded was going to be a major issue. MSU shooting 29%!! we are in it with a chance, though i expected us to lose, this is not a good Sparty. We shoot 40% despite a 1 from 6 from three.  1 of 6!