Preview 2013: Five Questions, Five Answers, Defense Comment Count

Brian

Previously: Podcast 5.0, The Story, Quarterback, Running Back, Wide Receiver, Tight End and Friends, Offensive Line, Defensive Tackle, Defensive End, Linebacker,Cornerback, Safety, Special Teams. Five Questions: Offense.

1. Novacs?

Michigan St Michigan Football

Oh man that's brutal you just accidentally made me think about some combination of Novak and Kovacs that still doesn't have any eligibility you're a monster

It's bad you guys. I am admittedly super paranoid about this business. But you're a Michigan fan too. You are either super paranoid, 14, or not paying attention. In any normal situation I would be freakin' out you guys, and now you're telling me that the guy replacing Kovacs is either

  1. the guy who couldn't play a deep half in the bowl game to the tune of 100 yards of doom, or
  2. a 175-pound nickel corner who has never played safety in his life.

Excuse me while I eat balloon animals until my spleen ruptures.

Look… man, I am irrationally optimistic about Devin Gardner and the running backs and the receivers and even the offensive line. I am really into large portions of this team. And I cannot find any reason to not run around in circles perpetually about replacing Kovacs. God, I wish I could. God, I wish all sorts of things about Kovacs and his replacements. I just don't know man.

It should be Avery long-term, because you don't move a guy like Avery to safety unless you are just trying to get everyone aligned right on every snap and playing the right coverage. His main asset is experience. But Avery is hurt now, was hurt last year, and projects to always be hurt. The situation here is analogous to the one at left guard, where it seems like Michigan wants to play a guy they can't count on because of his injury history. The difference at guard is that they have another option good enough to go with. The tea leaves imply that that is not the case at safety.

Yeah, maybe it'll be okay. Maybe I'm making too much of limited snaps for Wilson and writing a guy off prematurely, but guys in the comments of the safeties section saying that the Avery move is a logical one to get your best four defensive backs on the field: you're these guys.

Hey, I'd love to be wrong here. I'd love to be more wrong about this than anything I have been wrong about, and hoo boy have I been wrong about some things.

[After THE JUMP: Papering over Novacs, and like I am so serene you guys. About other bits.]

2. How do we paper over Novacs?

Getting to the quarterback. That's the only answer. If you don't have time to sit back and survey you cannot get it deep. While I am steeled to the idea that Michigan's going to blow it a lot more than they have in the recent past, if the opportunities to blow it are significantly reduced they can get by.

Assuming Mattison havoc is approximately equal and that Jake Ryan is Jake Ryan by the meat of the schedule, that comes down to:

  1. How much do Clark and Ojemudia improve?
  2. How much more rush does Michigan get out of the three tech and nickel spots?
  3. Can anyone else generate organic pass rush?

I think the answer to #1 is "significantly, but not as much as has been hyped." #2: "somewhat," and the answer to #3 is "maybe Quinton Washington." Improvement is a given; getting to elite is unlikely.

Actually, there is another thing. For Hail to the Victors I calculated some stats to give you an indication of how Michigan's safety play was over the last couple years:

According to CFBStats.com, Michigan was 49th—barely better than average—when it came to giving up plays of 10 yards or more. They gave up slightly more than 13 a game. (Alabama was under 6, with no other team under 9.) But they were increasingly elite at not letting those ten yard plays escalate as the distances got longer. They were 18th at preventing those plays from hitting 20 yards, 13th at preventing them from hitting 30, 8th at preventing them from hitting 40. That is a picture of safety reliability.  …

The next year the story was a little different, as Blake Countess went down and Michigan had a tendency to give up long passing plays in one-on-one coverage, but Michigan was still better at keeping plays down than they were at preventing them from hitting 10 yards, finishing sixth in cutting down 10-yard plays before they reached 20.

Michigan exposed their safeties to a lot of opportunities to implode relative to elite defenses. If they can get that run defense working to the point where safety fills are coming after bounces, delays, and assorted whatnot, they can take pressure off of Avery/Wilson. That seems likely as long as they can get similar production out of the three-tech spot occupied by Will Campbell last year. Survey says… ask again after we see Black try it.

3. Do you have any similar philosophical concerns about the defense?

jabrill-peppers_original[1]

No.

Michigan's defense has been hamstrung by a lack of hybrid space players early in Hoke's tenure. Hybrid space players (i.e., safety/LB hybrids who can play pass and run against spread offenses) are a major trend in modern football. See the nickelback section of the corner preview for more detail. In a nutshell, they are guys who can blitz because they're fast and shed anything other than an offensive lineman. They can constrict the screen game like Jake Ryan did last year without putting an awkward linebacker all that space; they can tackle buggers who pop out of the pack, they can get in a slot receiver's grill.

Hoke did not recruit one of those guys in his first class unless you want to count Allen Gant, and… yeah actually you might. He's been moved to SAM despite being 212, and he'll top out well below guys like Ryan and Beyer to be more of a Cam Gordon dude. Meanwhile, Michigan's larger freshman linebackers are slotted for the middle. Gant projects as a Stevie Brown sort of SAM, and Brown was highly effective as an HSP in his senior year.

In this year's class there is of course Dymonte Thomas, a prototype HSP, and if Delano Hill didn't seem badly needed at safety his combination of speed, hitting, and coverage would also be an excellent fit. The 2014 class features Jabrill Peppers*, who is a prototype boundary corner who can defend run and pass, plus Jared Wangler, a guy converting from safety to linebacker for his final year of high school, and Brandon Watson, a stocky 5'11" corner versed in press coverage who Michigan recruited because of his physicality. The nascent 2015 class has Shawn Crawford, who's short but has people calling him the best run support corner out of Ohio in years, and Tyree Kinnel, another physical safety type.

Throw all those guys in the mix and Michigan will have the nickel Mattison has proclaimed he wants whenever Thomas comes up: a blitzer, a thumper, an athlete. That guy, plus corners like Crawford who are excellent run defenders, are spread nerfers.

God willing.

*[If you think it's ridiculous to fold Peppers inside in nickel packages, 1) Blake Countess is doing that this year for M, and 2) Charles Woodson was the Packers' nickel when they had five DBs on the field. QED.]

4. Surely there must be something else to PANIC about?

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oh man I just meditated for six days and I feel amaaaaaaaazing

Uh… no? I guess Jibreel Black is far from an ideal three-tech. But the front seven has a solid, true-freshman-free two-deep. There are a number of spots at which there appear to be three legitimate players (WDE, SAM once Ryan is back, 3-tech); Michigan has the makings of a third starter at ILB and second at WDE, nose tackle, and SAM. Corner depth is a little dodgy with the Avery move, but Hollowell looks like a fine third option.

I look at the defense and I see two sore spots: free safety and SDE, and in SDE's case I just expect that Wormley and Heitzman will be a dull but okay duo. If they can get to the passer, they'll be fine. They will be a bear to run against what with Washington, Morgan, and Ross up the middle.

And then just wait until next year, when Michigan loses just Black,  Washington, both Gordons, and Avery while returning an entire two deep across the front seven with the exception of NT, where Ondre Pipkins will be emerging into an upperclassman, plus every corner on the roster. Oh, and they'll probably have Da'Shawn Hand and Jabrill Peppers to play around with.

No, we can't fast-forward to 2014.

5. Well?

mattison[1]

This will be less of a bend-but-don't-break outfit as the pass rush ramps up, the run defense gets stouter (leading to more third and longs) and the safety play gets less reliable. Overall, there is more talent and depth all over, and that'll only increase in future years.

As for this one, sign me up for a third straight year of good to very good but not elite. Michigan is coming off of years of 16th and 26th in the FEI rankings and 17th and 13th in total defense. They've done this despite having no dominant pass rusher (it's a tribute to Mattison that Michigan was in the top 30 in sacks his first year and his top pass rusher, Ryan Van Bergen, was an SDE with 5.5 to his name) and youth all over the place. They may get that rusher this year and the team is trending away from starting sixth-graders.

The advanced stats seem more useful here because of the weird nature of Michigan's season, with games against elite teams countered by the woeful Big Ten. They tell of a moderate dropoff occasioned by the lack of disruption provided by the line and Countess's injury. It says here Michigan gets most of that disruption back, along with Countess, and that the improved linebacker corps offsets the questions at safety as Michigan finishes in the mid-teens in advanced stats and total yardage again.

With arrows:

BETTER

  • Blake Countess > JT Floyd
  • Raymon Taylor/Hollowell > younger Taylor
  • Quinton Washington > younger Quinton Washington
  • T. Gordon > younger T. Gordon
  • James Ross > Kenny Demens
  • Junior Desmond Morgan at MLB > sophomore Morgan at WLB
  • WDE platoon with hype >> WDE platoon that does nossing

SAME

  • Thomas Gordon == Thomas Gordon
  • Jibreel Black/Willie Henry/Ryan Glasgow == Will Campbell

WORSE

  • Half season injured Ryan plus Beyer/Gordon < JMFR
  • Heitzman/Wormley/Godin < Craig Roh
  • Whatever <<< Kovacs

Last Year's Stupid Predictions

Washington and Campbell are functional with Campbell leaning towards actually good as long as he's at three-tech and not tired.

Close, but I should have asserted Washington was the one who was actually good.

Fumbles are recovered at a 50.3% rate.

Michigan recovered exactly 50% of fumbles they forced last year.

The ILBs take a major leap forward as they understand the defense much better; UFR complaints about slowness are mitigated and evaporate by midseason. Morgan seems a little better than Demens by year's end.

    Bang on, except I liked Demens enough to think he was the better LB.

    Ryan hits eight sacks and twice that many TFLs.

    Bang on with the TFLs (16.5), but only five sacks. Still… I mean, yeah.

    WDE production is a major sore spot. Black ends up not very effective at either of his positions.

    Check. Black lost a lot of PT midseason; Clark and Beyer combined for two sacks.

JT Floyd is better tackling on the edge and otherwise static.

JT Floyd was static. Not better on the edge.

Countess is a breakout star. Corner stats are dumb, so no predictions there, but his UFRs are an obvious step forward.

    Incomplete (injury).

Total defense (17) and scoring defense (6) drop somewhat; advanced metrics like FEI (16) hold steady, if not rise a bit.

Total defense actually rose to 13th; scoring D dropped to 20th. Michigan dropped to 29th in the FEI rankings. I think M was overrated a year ago, but still, that's at best a push and maybe a half-miss.

This Year's Stupid Predictions

  • There is no single breakout player from the WDE spot but overall production there is greatly increased. Clark is pretty good; Ojemudia presses him, and Michigan gets ten sacks out of the spot plus twice that number of TFLs.
  • Michigan suffers because they cannot adequately replace Kovacs. Avery becomes the free safety, and is run over a couple times to Michigan's detriment.
  • James Ross explodes into an All Big Ten player.
  • Quinton Washington should be All Big Ten and is drafted in the top three rounds in April.
  • No one really takes hold of the SDE spot all year. It's a sore spot equivalent to WDE in 2012.
  • Ryan comes back a week earlier than expected and is basically Jake Ryan by November; even before that Cam Gordon and Brennen Beyer make that spot a pretty decent one.
  • Michigan gets back to their 2011 numbers in advanced stats, has a top 20 yardage defense, seems to improve noticeably, and remains obviously short of elite.
  • For now!

Comments

m1jjb00

August 30th, 2013 at 2:04 PM ^

1.  13 sacks / 21 TFLs for Clark/OJ

2.  Ross deserves All Big 10 but only gets honorable mention (maybe 2nd team) b/c as Rocky said, "You gotta knock out the champion", in this case the pre-season guys who'll also have fine seasons.

3.  Ryan doesn't play until early November at the earliest.  I can't wrap my head around a 1/2 year ACL recovery.  Yeah, I know.

HipsterCat

August 30th, 2013 at 2:56 PM ^

3. I agree 1/2 year ACL recovery seems ridiculous. I guess science is really stepping its game up, pretty amazing even if it takes 7-8 months. They used to be career ending injuries and now it could barely be season ending.

Needs

August 30th, 2013 at 2:47 PM ^

Yeah, that game is going to be four verts fest. 

If you saw the opening TD in the South Carolina game last night, that's my greatest fear, Wilson taking one step toward the interior dig and getting beat over the top to the post.

mgobaran

August 30th, 2013 at 2:09 PM ^

the cornerback play will make up for Wilson's deficiencies at safety. countess will end up on an island more and more as the season progresses. Wilson and Taylor will team up to be only slightly below what Kovacs was.

yoopergoblue

August 30th, 2013 at 2:11 PM ^

Agree with almost everything in your Better-Same-Worse except for the SDE spot being worse than Roh last year.  I think that 3-man rotation will be very solid and at least be even with what Roh did.

llandson

August 30th, 2013 at 2:12 PM ^

I think Cam Gordon and Brennen Beyer will be invisible. No pass rush until Jake Ryan returns. With no pass rush, secondary gets exposed early and often. I think we struggle on defense against even mediocre teams.  

MgoSuh

August 30th, 2013 at 2:16 PM ^

What is meant by Thomas Gordon being a better version of his younger self, but also being in the SAME category? Is one of those supposed to be Cam Gordon?

snoopblue

August 30th, 2013 at 2:35 PM ^

How did we all fail to get a picture of novak and kovacs together while they were on campus? And we includes the media. Maybe it was on purpose? A photograph of those two together might be so epic and powerful that it could not be trusted in the hands of a mere mortal.

joeismyname

August 30th, 2013 at 2:42 PM ^

my metric for measuring the Defense this year is that we were all cautiously optimistic last year thinking we would have a good pass Defense, but a suspect run defense...and we ended up being pretty good at both, even overperforming. This year we are suspect about our pass defense, and seem content with run. The trend I see here is low expectations, and then outperforming those expectations....look what Hoke and Mattison did with almost no depth in 2011 and still subpar depth last year with lots of freshmen contributers.

The areas where we need the most depth for breather and bodies reasons we have now (LB and DL) and we still have adequate depth at our defensive back positions with only one VERY promising tru freshmen looking to get real playing time. We are seeing our first year in a truly good situation, adn I like it....all teams have these issues where they lose a great contributer.

Ron Utah

August 30th, 2013 at 2:44 PM ^

I'm not sure how much you need to worry about the safety play.  If you really believe that our O-Line is going to be solid, then the occasional blown play on the back end shouldn't hurt us too much.

Why do I say that?  The offense was pretty darn good last year under DG.  If we can increase that efficiency and add a running game, oh boy.  We could average another 3-6 pts/gm (which is a HUGE difference).

Mattison is a smart dude.  If our FS is really a sore spot, he will find a way to compensate.  He always has.  We were 11-2 in 2011, fergodsakes.  I think this doomsday scenario of a bad safety (which we all remember from the end of the Carr era) will be less of a big deal with Mattison running the show.  If he has to push Gordon deep more, he will.  If Avery is the answer, so be it.  If it means more cover two, fine.  Mattison isn't going to allow too many splash plays against our defense, even if means there is reduced effectiveness against the inside running game.  He just won't.  His whole philosophy is "inside and in front."  By November, this problem is very solved, even if it's not because Wilson or Avery are very good at FS.

That said, his solution IS likely to expose our defense somewhere else, ie having fewer defenders in the box.  But given that we have QWash, Heitzman, Pipkins, Henry, Glasgow, Clark, Cam, Beyer, Morgan, Ross, RJS, Bolden, and Black rotating on our front seven, I think they can handle a little more than last year's group.  Heitzman isn't going to show-up much in sacks or TFL (I agree with you there) but he will contain against the run and make the plays he should make.  Both Wormley and Godin have shown more ability to penetrate, but don't seem to be as steady.  I think Heitzman may be surprisingly good, in and RVB minus the pass rush kind of way.  Sort of like Ice Man in Top Gun--he just won't screw-up.

Going back to my original point, if you aren't worried about the O-line/running game, then I think having ONE starter on defense that is a real concern is not a big deal, because I believe improved effieciency on offense will more than erase that potential deficiency.

What should really concern you is if our O-Line really isn't that good, or if you believe the front seven really isn't that good.  But one guy--even a FS--cannot bring down Mattison's defense.

The ND game will tell us a lot, but it's not until Penn State that we'll really learn what we do or don't have.  That's our last tune-up before the Gauntlet (aka November).

Blue in Denver

August 30th, 2013 at 3:17 PM ^

Given the status of the front 7 right I'm much more worried about teams throwing over the top than I am with defending the run and short passes.  I love Avery (5th year senior CB with tons of playing experience) at FS.

I think every can agree the Avery-for-Kovacs swap is a downgrade against the run, probably significantly so.  I suspect you're right in predicting Avery will get trucked a couple times, and it will suck when that happens.  But I also think the front 7 is going to be good enough that we'll be fine there.  Not elite, but fine.

Against the pass, however, I think Avery may be an actual upgrade, rather than something to panic about.  He's both quicker and faster than Kovacs, and while Kovacs was legendary in his ability to read and react to plays, I expect Avery to be close to that good on passing plays at least.  All of this is before we add in the additional benefit of an expected increase in pass rush.

So Brian, pet a kitten, take a deep breath, and relax.  It's going to be ok.

My personal point of concern on the D (I wouldn't call it panic) is I think Ross in pass coverage is << Demens in pass coverage.  I was never a huge fan of Demens but I think he was quietly great, not good in pass coverage.  We're going to see a non-trivial increase in passes completed to TEs against us.

El Jeffe

August 30th, 2013 at 3:46 PM ^

The question is more where they will play, rather than who is a swap for whom. If you look at clips from last year (maybe in the Safety preview? Too much content to remember...) you'll see that Kovacs was usually in or near the box and Gordon was usually... not.

So I think that Gordon is actually the replacement for Kovacs this year and Avery/Wilson will be the replacement for Gordon. I could be wrong about this, but I'm more concerned about Wilson (and later a dinged Avery) blowing deep assignments a la The Ole Ball Coach's Cavalcade of Four Verts in the USC (NTUSC) bowl game than I am about Avery getting trucked in the run game.

Unless I just know nothing and Gordon is slated to be what I always thought of as the FS and Avery is slated to be what I always thought of as the SS.

Blue in Denver

August 30th, 2013 at 4:33 PM ^

That's a good point.  My interpretation of our two safety positions is really they are "the one that reads plays a lot" and "the one that less less reading responsibility".  Kovacs was the big play reader last year and I'm fairly confident Gordan will be that guy this year.  So from one perspective at least Gordan is replacing Kovacs and Avery/Wilson is replacing Gordon.

I'm much more concerned about Wilson blowing coverages than Avery.  I think blown coverages are a thing that happen less the more you've played.  Avery's career playing time >> Wilson's.

 

Hannibal.

August 30th, 2013 at 3:40 PM ^

"It's bad you guys. I am admittedly super paranoid about this business. But you're a Michigan fan too. You are either super paranoid, 14, or not paying attention"

Here's my take on it -- Michigan's pass defense has been dog poop against anyone with a pulse (and lots of teams without) for a long time.  Kovacs was a great run filler but he was a complete non factor when it comes to pass defense, and this (as well as other stuff) has hurt us badly.  He ended up with a paltry four PBUs for his entire carreer despite starting a ton of games.  Just to give you some perspective -- Julius Curry, in his only healthy year (2000) ended up with five PBUs.  He also returned an INT for a TD that year.  Kovacs ended up with a pretty unimpressive five INTs for his career, and my memory of those is that none of them involved an impressive break on the ball or Kovacs miraculously dropping back into coverage really fast after biting on a play fake (ala the Jonas Mouton ND pick of 2010) or faking a blitz. In fact, all of my "yay Kovacs" memories are related to bliztes and great run defense.  I can't remember him doing anything in the passing game except tackle guys who had already caught the ball. 

So the reason why not all of us are panicking over the loss of Kovacs is because some of us think that mgoblog has underestimated the degree to which he was a liability in the passing game.  At the very least, adding Wilson and Countess to the secondary is a huge upgrade in athleticism over what we had last year. 

PinballPete

August 30th, 2013 at 6:25 PM ^

I'm of the mind that Dymonte Thomas will become the starting safety a la Kovacs and Gordon will resume his free safety type position at some point throughout the year. Wilson just hasn't inspired much and that's not a knock on him. Rarely do underclassmen make good safeties. I just think that Thomas is that type of rare player that will demand to see the field.

Notre Dame will be the test that proves how capable these safeties really are. If I had to guess I'd say Thomas is starting by the time we play Minny or PSU

M-Wolverine

August 30th, 2013 at 9:45 PM ^

And still a year or two away from the real difference maker- a defense that makes opposing QBs crap themselves. I can't wait till we're back to a team that the crowd gets more excited for a defense terrorizing other teams.