Does anyone actually watch preseason college basketball? Duke goes out there and gives zero effort against some random D-2 school and loses. It's not even really a game. Big no from me.
Preseason college football games
The only way I would give my approval to this sort of thing is if the games were of very, very limited contact. More like "intrasquad" scrimmages in kind of real time. No blitzing, mostly fair kicks on special teams (actually, that might benefit Michigan a lot as we are still hearing the kick returners are having problems just catching the ball).
This way, you can still pretty much simulate game speed at least, and run less of a risk of injury. On a side note, it would provide a place to run your freshmen into a "game" and give them a feel for it as well.
50,000 people show up to watch the spring game. I think a pre-season game/scrimmage in the middle of August would draw plenty of interest including mine.
I think you mean Michigan State.
kinda cool for like 20 monutes but got slow towards the end
I am for it and I agree that some limitations are probably a good idea as well. If it prevents teams from scheduling cupcake games in the regular season, that would be an added bonus. I think a scrimmage format would be appropriate.
This won't cut down on cupcakes. It would literally be what the article suggests: Playing the spring game against GVSU.
I would like to see it, especially this year, it could be a huge showcase for incoming freshman. Unlike the NFL, college fans would love to watch the 3rd and 4th stringers.
No fans allowed! It is a way for the coaches to get a handle on what they need to work on.
I think you and I may be the only people who read the article.
Sorry Brodie, this humidity is too much for me, or I would have read the article.
They could coach the game naked, which if you ask ANY college football coach, they'll tell you that is on their "Bucket List."
In a separate discussion, it was suggested that the 'preseason' game could replace the spring game and would include free admission.
Yeah but then RR goes on to say:
“I brought it up a couple years ago and everybody said, ‘Yeah, that sounds good,’ and then it just faded into oblivion,” Rodriguez said. “And then we talked about spring games against somebody else, and I thought that’d be good. Imagine the crowd we’d have at the Big House if we had a spring game against somebody here, not charge them. I think it’d be fun.
Unless I'm missing something, I believe he offers both as options.
This is a fantastic idea. I wouldn't even mind if it was against another legitimate D1 program that is not on the regular season schedule and use it as a benchmark before the season starts.
It could be home one year on the road the next. Michigan could line up South Florida or someone like that and use it for recruiting as well.
I think that it wouldn't work because of a possible bowl game matchup, so it might be relegated to have pre-season be played between a FBS team and an FBS or D-II team.
I agree. They'd probably put it up between the closest FCS or D-II to cut costs. They may even have to do home-and-home if it were closed door, as I would have to assume they would be to keep the rumors of "OMG [FCS team] beat [FBS team] in there scrimmage!!1!" to a minimum.
And yes, that "there" was in there to imply the stupidity of the person that thinks winning a spring/august scrimmage has anything to do with the possibility of a real game.
I knew you would not do that on purpose, ever.
Colleges in the lower divisions do this already as RR mentioned in his press conferences. They are very valuable, and give you a better idea of where you are before the first game. Its generally a controlled scrimmage type deal where you go 1's on 1's for so many plays with each team's O and D. Then you go 2's on 2's and so on. Everybody from starters on down gets some game like experience which is also valuable.
College baseball does this on occasion. A team can schedule a fall ball game or a preseason game, but it counts against their 56 game schedule. So, if it were to happen in football, they'd play a team either in spring or August but they'd only play 11 games during the regular season.
That cuts out some major revenue.
What about the BCS and the polls that go into it?
I know that the poll voters would be told not to take exhibition games into account, but if they have to decide between two teams that are almost exactly the same, say, Oklahoma and Texas last year, don't you think some may be swayed by the extra game? Especially with the small sample sizes the voters get anyway, an especially good or bad performance in an exhibition game could be in the back of their minds, and I don't think that would be fair.
Other than that concern, I think it would be a great idea. Assuming it is in August, it would help fill this void very nicely.
Interesting point. I think you would have to tweak the format a bit so that it was more of a scrimmage.
the fact that having preseason games would alleviate a lot of the hell all of us are living through waiting for the fucking season to start.
I think the basketball team does something like this before the official preseason. They do a scrimmage and work on certain game situations behind closed doors against another team. I think a closed practice against another squad that can drive in would be a great idea. I don't think it would be anything like a "game". They can work on a two minute drill, special teams, red zone, goal line, etc. Makes perfect sense.
... institute a playoff at the end of the season. Then teams would not be as scared to schedule real competition early in the season. That way, each game still counts, and some rust at the beginning of the season can be overcome.
I agree if there was a playoff then teams would schedule better since one loss vs Texas won't kill your season. People schedule light out of fear.
I hadn't thought of it this way, but it would be sorta hypocritical of the NCAA to allow a spring game while saying a playoff would be "detrimental to the student-athlete." Not that the NCAA gives a shit if football fans see them as hypocritical or anything......
I like the idea but there would need to be a lot of guide lines. Football needs a lot of fine tuning and that's why the first game is dangerous(WMU!)because it's the first of anything for a lot of the guys and teams like App and Mac teams have nothing to lose by the outcome.
I think it's a good idea, you could work on certain things to improve upon and also it would give the freshman a little game experience before the season starts.
I think there should be a mini-season in the spring, where teams could schedule 3 or 4 exhibition games a la soccer's "friendlies." The idea stems from my days in Ann Arbor, when I'd drive down Main Street on a beautiful sunny day in April or May and the thought would enter my mind how it's really, very weird that we have this 100,000 + seat stadium and it only hosts 7 games a year. A spring season would be an opportunity for teams to give redshirt freshmen and backups a chance to get some game experience before the fall campaign, and it would provide for some juicy matchups that may never otherwise occur, since teams won't be afraid of derailing any championship hopes by playing a difficult road game. Teams would loosen up a little, maybe bust out some new schemes.
Just imagine this scenario playing out: "We're giving Tate the day off and will be playing Denard Robinson exclusively," Rich Rodriguez announces before the April 21 friendly against Georgia at the Big House. Yes, it's late, but I'm really starting to talk myself into this... And hey it'd generate revenue so maybe it's got a shot. I'm gonna write the NCAA tomorrow. Until then, I'll dream on. Good night, blog
...would make a great spring game. That would help UM break whatever the spring game attendance record is, too. And UM could beat MSU twice a year instead of just once, even if the spring game didn't count for anything.
This would be exciting, but I don't think it's worth the injury risk. It's one thing to play a team you don't have to play during the season and don't have a rivalry with, but things could get nasty very quickly in a game where you can take shots at another team before the season even starts.
I realize we are already half way down the slippery slope of being nothing but an NFL breeding machine and nothing is going to stop this from eventually happening--but i still hate it. the next thing you know, high schools will want 'pre-season' games, etc etc....
Let's just keep college football college football.
Actually most high schools already have pre-season scrimmages with other schools. Its usually the week before the first game, and is a controlled scrimmage. At least thats how it was where I grew up. In the past, teams would have jamborees where 4 teams would show up, and two teams play one half while the other two teams play the second half.
Michigan used to play Slippery Rock as a preseason type game, right?
That was a little bit before my time, but I remember my dad always cheering for Slippery Rock and explained the connection.
No, Slippery Rock just played games in Michigan Stadium.
The announcing of Slippery Rock scores at Michigan games was a sort of pre-internet meme and it led to a solid relationship between the two schools that led to us allowing them to host a game against Shippensburg. That led to Wayne State asking for permission to host such a game, which we allowed them to do against Slippery Rock.