Pot, meet Kettle

This story has been beaten to death...Mallett didn't like it here...he left. Rod did not tell him to leave like Kiffin.

With all due respect to Brian, it's why he's writing for blogs and not coaching.

Let him go coach for awhile and let's see if he still believes that statement. It's easy to coach from a distance. We all do it.

How exactly did Rodriguez "toss away" Mallett?

Mallett was leaving anyway. No matter who the coach was going to be. Ziff72 is right. How many more times you want to beat that thing into the ground?

Therefore, there is no irony.

You sir, are a moron.

it's interesting to me, that you as a Michigan fan believe speculation that Kiffin's handling of the Boyd situation was on the up and up but that Rodriguez's handling of Mallett was dirty. Read Sharp much?

Maybe Brian was making a comment that using his personal experience as a Michigan fan, he knows how stupid Kiffin is being.

That isn't the pot calling the kettle anything, that's simply saying"I know, because my team did it and it didn't work." I think this quote sums it up best:

"Take it from a Michigan fan: one thing you do not want to do as a first- or second-year head coach is throw out a walk-on or freshman at quarterback."

Yeah, what Chris just said.

between Mallett and Boyd was that Mallett needed to be coddled. He wanted to be treated like a star and told how much the program needed him. Of course, RR's position was, if you are at Michigan, you should want to play for Michigan. If you don't want to play for Michigan, you don't have to. And as we all know, Mallett chose the latter so RR released him of his obligations to the university. Just like he released every other kid who walked away without restrictions. That is why fatty fat tom cat could pick up and walk down the street and play road block for da sour nuts. Now what I will say is that it was a clash of ego's between Mallett and Rodriquez. But RR didn't show him the door. He just held it for him as he left.

same thing at Oakland. He didn't want Jamarcus Russell for the first pick, he wanted a pocket passer. He doesn't want to have to teach mechanics for his system. He's looking for a Matt Lienart type of QB, great throwing ability, good mechanics, and can escape if need be, not run because you can.

That's the main reason he got fired from Oakland, he didn't want to work with Russell. He wanted a pocket passer with a strong arm. That why Russell would be pulled out of games instead of sticking with him.

there are, and always will be, two camps to this debate:

Those who are informed. Those folks know that the worst kept secret during the 2007 season was not that it was Lloyd's last season, but that mallet had been pondering a tranfer, even as he started a few games, and that he clashed with his teammates and coaches regularily.

Did the coaching change help foster his transfer. Yes, because he was unsure he wanted to play here to begin with and pretty sure he didn't want to play for RR. RR tried to re-recruit him, but decided its the kids decision and since he did not want to be here, he could not convince him otherwise.

Then, there is the other camp of folks, who grumble about RR running off Mallet even though there are no facts to support that....who claim he told Mallet it was Pryor's job and he would warm the bench.....those are straw man arguments.

Ryan Mallet was transferring regardless of the coach. We were saying that during most of the 2007 season.

If anyone was surprised at his transfer, then they weren't playing attention and were not informed....there's nothing wrong with being a fan just on Saturday....hardly.....but try and get the facts before spouting off.

Put aside Mallett's personality or anything Rodriguez did for a second:

Rodriguez is a coach with a track record of running the all a lot, and asking the QB to run the ball a fair amount (even when he didn't have White, guys like Marshall ran for 400-500 yards a year, and King ran for 800). Mallett wasn't (isn't) that sort of QB. Why on earth would he have stayed? We saw how much Threet struggled.

My point is that Rodriguez didn't have to do anything, and Mallett could have behaved like a boy scout, and there would have still been ample rationale for him to leave.

My favorite defense on a message board is poster's opinion being subjected to criticism because he used definitive statment's like "RR ran Mallett off and didn't try to keep him at all". Then said poster defends his opinion by saying "you don't know for certain that's what happened". Yet, his statement implies certainty.

Ah! Hypocrisy, my one true love.

I suggest Mgoblog proceeds to implement "Tard Tests" before posters are given full ability to make forum threads and diaries here.

This is the ugliest type of troll behaviour. Instead of flaming Michigan this type of troll tries to start a fire from within. The trick is to profess your love for Michigan while at the same tearing Michigan down at every turn. They hide behind a mask in the hope no one will see they are only sowing seeds of discontent.

LOL that sounds right on the money.

...there was a poster who came on infrequently. She claimed to be the housemate of Ryan Mallett's girlfriend. The things she posted seemed legit, though she did have an ax to grind because she thought he was a douche and treated her friend like shit. She kept saying throughout the season that no one should count on Mallett for the future because he hated it here and had very few friends.

I took her at face value because her posting style seemed legit, the things she said meshed with reality as observed by others, and she was eventually proven right.

Which is more than I can say for Logan88.

I can't believe this thread has 55 posts and no one has mentioned that even if Lloyd pulled Mallet's scholarship, the situation would be in no way, by definition of the word, "ironic". Does anyone even know what irony really means!?! Am I an engineering graduate preaching good English on the internet!?!

no, no, It's a death Roh pardon, two minutes too late.

who would have thought "it figures"?

I don't recall Mallet coming out and saying RR ran him off. I would think that would be the first words out of Mallet's mouth if that were the case. It is because there is NO proof of what happened that rumors like this get started.

I find it strange you are putting the burden of proof on us to prove that Mallett wasn't run off by Rodriguez, when you made the original claim that he did run Mallett off. You made the initial claim, it's your duty to back it up, not ours. And please don't put up anything from any Detroit paper or ESPN, or basically any MSM moron who doesn't know any better saying that Rodriguez ran off Mallett when the only somewhat insider information hinted that Mallett was a goner long before Rodriguez came into the picture.

We need to focus in on what is important because I fear we are digressing too far away from quoting Alanis

I think it's more like meeting the man of my dreams and then meeting his beautiful wife...

Regardless of what the story really is between RR and Mallet, the siuations are different when compared to Kiffin/Boyd. Mallet was a current player who was thinking about transfering and RR simple said if you don't want to be here thats fine, here is your transfer papers and the door. Kiffin told a kid who was committed to another coach that he wasn't wanted anymore. RR had an oportunity to do that with some of Lloyd's recruits but he instead rerecruited them for the most part (Weinke saw the writing on the wall and new he didn't fit the spread, hardly RR's fault). So the situations aren't the same if you really think about it.

So it's not really like a black fly in your Chardony.

I really think what the OP is trying to say is that Brian has one hand in his pocket, and the other is flickin' off Lane Kiffin.

LC was personally interviewed in Orlando inside the Best Buy store on the day the team was shopping for their bowl gifts. He was quoted in that interview as "knowing what Ryan Mallett is going to do, but will leave it to Ryan to announce his plans". Mallett had already made up his mind before RR ever took over the team. RR did nothing but facilitate his decision.

As far as RR forcing Mallett out, what it all boils down to is that no one's got it all figured out just yet.