Yeah, yeah, whatever. Thought I'd make a poll about this topic since it has never been done.
POLL: Night Games
It's a long drive and traffic would be a nightmare going north.
Yeah, according to Google maps, it is 1,188 miles door-to-door for me.
825 miles from here. I pretty much have to watch on TV, so it doesn't so much matter to me.
I think night games are okay in limited doses. One a year, in September when it's still warm. Either Notre Dame or Little Brother.
Let's hit up Yahoo Maps for the dopest route.
...that's a good one too.
I'm The Boss.
Mapquest SUCKS MY BALLS! That shit has screwed me up soo many times. It sucks.
Yahoo or Google are much better IMO.
Yellow words suck. Maybe it's just my eyes.
has michigan had a night game in the last couple decades? and if they have, how long ago was it? why don't we try it one time on a year when we have 8 home games like this year, then the season ticket holders who don't want to deal with the reasons not to have a night game like traffic and drunk people will still have the regular 7 home games to go to so they won't feel gypped and then they can sell their ticket to somebody who wants to go to a night game, probably for a lot more money than they usually would be able to. and if it doesn't work out, then the issue should be closed for a decade or so until they decide it is time to try it again
Michigan hasn't had a night game in almost ever, or ever, if I'm correct.
when you say ever, you mean not since we started fielding a football team then. well, then the reasons against night games are are hypothetical then. the city and alumni can't be sure what they think is going to happen. it might actually turn out being a good thing for the city, you never know. it's kind of like people who claim not to like a certain food, like sushi. then they try it and love it and proclaim they are disappointed it took them so long to try it. and if they don't love it and it ends up being a horrible idea then they don't have to do it again.
.....but again, you've identified the salient issues. Michigan has a lot of alumni who travel a long way (Me, I travel from Minneapolis for games) to these games. Others live locally but have a lot of money and don't want night games. Finally, I've read here many times that AA doesn't want the increased burdens of a night game.
You can keep banging your head here on a message board about night games. Many people here agree with you - heck, we all are actively involved with the intricacies of the team (recruiting, personnel, night games, maize jerseys) and that's why we're on message boards talking about them. Unfortunately, we can't drive policy here.
The people you need to focus upon to change minds are in the athletic department, on the AA City Council and police force, and the Alumni Associations.
EDIT: I love sushi. I'm having it for lunch. Just saying.
....don't do it don't do it....
yeah, it's true we can't do anything. it's too bad strength in numbers won't work here because im pretty sure the majority of the students and people under 30 who go to games are up for it, just by what i see on this blog. the problem is that the streets in this city aren't designed to deal with lots of traffic. if you go to gainesville, the road that the stadium is on is at least 2 lanes each way with it becoming 3 lanes at some points and the cross roads are 2 lanes each way. we have main and state, one way each direction, lots of no left turns and no turn on reds. it really would be a hassle, but there are 365 days in a year, 364 of them without night games seems like it should be doable. I mean, if the art fair isn't a problem for 4 days, one night game shouldn't be that hard for city council to plan around. also, lots of colleges have alumni that travel long distances for games and they still have night games, that is a moot point.
where are you getting sushi at? i like sushi town on packard. they have really creative rolls. godaiko is really good, but too expensive to eat very often.
...the "viewing" there was insane. Big fan of warm-weather night games. And sun dresses.
I live in the Twin Cities. I get my sushi from my employer's cafeteria, and also a number of very good local Japanese restaurants.
I will be in Ann Arbor for the WMU game though, so I will try Sushi Town. Thanks for the rec.
it's hooked on to a hardware store so it seems pretty dive, but don't let the appearance deceive you. the green river roll is a must and i think it's $4.95 and no more than $5.95
Is that the place that is very narrow and feels like it just keeps going back further and further as you go in?
I went to a sushi place in AA when UM played OSU in basketball last season. It was pretty decent.
i would assume that is the one you went to. as you walk in the door, the main room is a narrow hallway with the kitchen and order counter on the right. as you walk back through the hallway it opens up into a dining room.
No buffer zone to the restroom?
Just a pot, a door and a dining area?
Yea I think that is the place.
I loved it.
I'm having Sushi for dinner tonight too. It's a place called Wasabi, underneath my gf's apartment. They have a great sushi happy hour, 1 dollar for 4 pieces of spicy tuna or california roll. All other sushi, sashimi and rolls are half off.
For all you google map fans (I am one of them, fo sho) it's at 3183 Wilshire Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90010.
For those of you who live in LA, you should go there. I know, I know, sushi in Koreatown, but they still know their shit.
regardless of where it is at in LA im going to go out on a limb and say it's probably better than anything you can get in Ann Arbor. oh well, at least i'm not a sushi fan stuck in GR or lansing.
Oh so Ann Arbor is so much better than GR? Just because you live there? You arrogant fuck.
You think you are so big and f'ing bad because you're from L.A. The arrogance is dripping from your posts!!
Well, I'm from Grand Rapids....but I live in LA! And I went to Michigan! I'm doubly better than everyone else. Maybe (better)^2 than everyone else.
...Penn State is damn near impossible to get in and/or out of and yet somehow they find a way to make night games work.
night games say, "we're so awesome that we should play at night and intimidate people." I don't personally condone that type of arrogance.
Where's the 'apathy' option?
Apathy button = Nader
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Blame my iPhone for the quad-post
Lay off the Adderral you quad posting freak.
many a lap around the internet. I've administrated forums, run websites, and even made "eaten by a grue" jokes. I was around when hamster dance & the really big button that doesn't do anything (TRBBTDDA) got popular. I even remember coffee cam.
I've seen double posts out the wazoo, and even the rarer-yet-still-somewhat-frequent triple post. This is my first observed quadruple post. I thought it was just a myth...
lights. That is one reason we've never played a night game.
Well, that's also a moot point, since in the past, the broadcasters have brought in lights for 3:30 starts. Also, the new press boxes are wired for lighting, so that excuse doesn't work anymore.
The TV station usually brings in portable lights. The MSU game that went to triple OT would have been continued on Sunday had it not been for the portable lights. So while we have not had a game that actually started at night, we have had games that have run fairly late.
I would like to see them at least give a night game a chance. I believe that Martin had the stadium wired just in case when they started the renovations so it is not out of the question.
They've had permanently placed portable lights around the stadium for years, which you need because a 3:30 game at the end of October or November in Ann Arbor basically is night.
I don't care one way or the other, but I do have a neat thought.
Opening Day, 2010
Play a night game starting at say 7 PM. Open the gates at about 3:30 and open up the new buildings and suites to tours. Just as a one shot deal so your nosebleed ticket holders can see the suites and so on.
we could field a better team, play up to ohio states level this year, hope it's overcast that day, and go into a 6 overtime game so the most exciting part of the game is played in the dark. thats not too much to ask is it?
Night games, but with lasers instead of stadium lights.
Can lights be permanent and portable at the same time?
(edit: oops that should be a reply to the message above...)
The "portable" is a reference to the quality of structure and the lights. So, yeah, they have permanent "portable" lights. I.E. You can mount a lantern to a wall but that doesn't make it a wall lamp :)
By the way, my serious answer to the question: If I were a student, then yes. Night games rock for the student body because you can sleep in all you want, drink all day, show up piss-drunk and loud as hell, and enjoy the fairly rare night atmosphere of a game (it's not better necessarily, or worse, but it's different and that's a plus.) Night games are a better party in general, both inside and outside the stadium. You guys who went to Michigan, I'm afraid you're missing out.
But since I'm not a student, I'll stick with the tradition. Watching a game on TV, it's just TV and it makes no difference night or day. And in order to go to a game, well, I live in Rhode Island now, but when I do move back to Michigan it'll almost certainly be to the Detroit area somewhere. This means driving home after the game and that means getting stuck in game traffic at 11:30 PM and not really getting home til after midnight. Night games are only good for the fans if you can walk to the stadium.
Take a shit in one hand and make a wish for night games in the other hand. See which one becomes true first. Night games would be great, but ain't gonna happen.
You can get a good look at a t-bone by sticking your head up a butchers ass...
The update of the stadium will include all wiring of either permanent lights or portable lights. Not the lights themselves, but everything will be in the structure to just “plug them in”
Personally I would love night games in September, when the temperature can be in the mid 80s which makes it about 100 in the stadium, why not wait till the sun goes down and it’s cooler.
it seems like a huge undertaking to bring in enough lights to illuminate someplace as large as a football field for every night game but financially risky to put in permanent lights if a)we try a night game and it doesn't work out for whatever reason or b)we never bother to try a night game after we erect them. quite the conundrum.
well they're gonna need lights either way when they play late, so why not just put in permanent?
I would think Ann Arbor would make a lot more money if we had night games. More time on Saturday to buy food, people staying at hotels, etc.
Why would more people stay at hotels? They'd just stay on Saturday instead of Friday.
More time to buy food? The game starts at 8 eastern - if anything that would cut into the dinner rush in town - tons of people go into town to eat after earlier games.
we should play a night game against ND or a tough big ten team as a dedication to the renovations in 2010.
Only if there's smoke, fireworks, Metallica and He Hate Me is the RB.
I have read many posts that seem to think that UM never plays at home at night. Not so fast those of you who don't attend every game! I was in AA for a night game vs. Penn St. just a few years ago - You might remember the game... Lloyd argued for 2 seconds back on the clock late in the game and got them. With only those very two ticks left in the game, Mario Manningham catches a TD pass in the corner of the endzone. I was sitting in that corner and that was one of the best games I will ever see in my life. I took one of my friends to that game and he had never seen a live football game. What a game to start off with! The TV guys brought all the lights and there were four cranes full of them in each corner. They also had one of those robot cameras on the zip line that you see in Monday Night Football. If the TV people wanna bring the lights in, then that's fine with me. I do, however prefer tailgating in the morning and going to Ashley's after the game. The beer selection there is unbelievable.