better off in the long run if Lewan had not come back, and may not have been any worse in the short run either. Even when something good happens to Michigan football lately some thing equally bad or worse also happens.
A Pit At The Bottom Of The World
Yep, the travesty we witnessed with the OL last year was far worse than any RR transgression. RR delivered on what he was brought in for - a fun, record breaking offense. It wasn't the Oregon type of spread that destroyed the world with better athletes that we were looking for, but it was a great ride. And for all his idiocy, GERG was force fed a 3 3 5 from above.
Borges? No excuse. The best thing to happen to this team in the last 12 months wasn't Peppers, or any recruits, it was firing Borges and hiring Nuss. Anything is an improvement.
So what's your opinion on RR--pro or con?
do we know how big jump a team can make? Has there been a team that moved up from triple digit ranking to say 20-30? I hope there are some examples. Otherwise, it will be another long season.
"There are approximately 842 year-to-year transitions in the document; 70 of them are leaps of 50 or more spots. (One of them is a hundred-spot leap from 119th to 19th at… sigh, Arizona in 2012.)"
My view is that Nuss seems 1 million times more flexible than Al. I think he understands that there are great expecations on him and he will find the best way for these guys to block and be successful. My question is, it seemed like our guys were getting blown up quite a bit (I can't remember whom or when) and has anybody heard anything about these guys getting bigger, stronger and nastier??? Anybody???
In only seven weeks since the bowl game? No.
That would be steriods if it happened.
And Hightower FREE hotdog's for LIFE!
No drinks though...can't do it.
The snow is already making me depressed, then I read this! We must all agree to never discuss the 2013 OL again!
Amazing stats but reality was amazing too. It was actually unbelievable to watch last year how terrible the O-line was. There are times watching football when I tell myself that the O-line performance isn't THAT important as long as they are big and can get in the way, but last year just proved how wrong that was. And it can't be talent. I refuse to believe that it was talent-based. Or even skill based. Because you could have probably plugged any one of these guys into a really good O-line and they would have performed well, right?
Going to build a storm shelter like Michael Shannon in "Take Shelter" and hunker down for the whole season. Someone come and get me in January of 2015. Thanks.
I mean, I get what the stats show. But stats are not the end-all be-all.
Michigan has a brand spaking new proven championship-caliber OC and lots of OL talent and depth, despite their youth. Not to mention a senior dual-threat QB who could be in the Heisman talk if he stops throwing the ball to the other team so damn much. And lots of raw talent at the RB position, let's not forget.
And seeing that Arizona did such a dramatic improvement tells me that such a jump is possible. It would be silly to expect a huge dramatic shift of 100 spots, but whoever said Michigan needed huge dramatic improvement on OL to become a Big Ten contender? They need improvement, obviously, but the question should be "how much"?
I mean, maybe I'm an unrealistic optimist about this sort of stuff, but I look at all those stats and the only thing I can think is "that was last year". Last year =/= this year. While also thinking "Michigan is in a unique position compared to most of those data points".
I don't understand why Funk is still coaching here. That more than 2013's W-L record has me profoundly worried about Hoke. There might be a good reason. But it's hard to see. Basically, you have to say that Borges was so horrible that he overwhelmed Funk's excellence. That's possible. How possible is that? Somewhat, I guess, but it seems like a longshot.
One thing is for certain, Michigan is not going to be ready for Manball in 2014. Can Nuss coach an improvised non-Manball offense for a year?
Borges was actually pretty good at this. He called a pretty good spread game when he decided he wanted to do it. Of coures as soon as it started working, he would call something else as if it wasn't sporitng to beat your opponent with half your playbook.
I'm curious how much of this can be attributed to scheme; i.e., when you look at the leaps and craters, is there a correlation b/w those jumps/falls and switching schemes?
is that any positivity at all in the Line statistics is from the first half of the season, before teams figured out to attack the middle.
Borges, but Hoke oversaw this. Nussmeier's inside zone is the only ray of hope I see. We're going to pull off some wins because we've got a quarterback who would be a Heisman candidate at a strong program and talent dotted around the field. But I don't think Hoke gets out of '14-'15 as coach.
EDIT: In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Dollar Dave is already seeing Brady as a lame duck, letting him get through the inevitable bad year we have in store next year before pulling the trigger.
I'm optimistic that a switch to zone blocking will help quite a bit. That may be because I believe in zone blocking a lot more than I believe in man blocking, but I still think the scheme change helps us a lot. I don't think there is a single team in the country running a man-to-man "power" scheme anymore outside of Wisconsin that is able to run the ball very well.
This staff is insane if it doesn't implement spread running techniques this season. We can still move at a snail's pace, but we need to move the math in our favor to move the ball effectively.
disturbing the level of pessimism here. I understand the numbers however choose to believe that new coaching and young talent will rise this year and overachieve expectation. The comment about Phil Steele not being optimistic about Michigan, this past year at the beggining of the season Phil picked Clemson to win the ACC, Alabama to win the SEC-and the NC, Oregon to win the Pac 12, Oklahoma to win the Big 12 and of course the buckeyes to win the BgTn, Every one of those predictions was wrong of course. Don't get me wrong Phil Steele is very knowledgeable and his synopsis of M was pretty much right on last year except he predicted Michigan to go 8-4 for the season.
Everyone of those predictions were wrong...but they were also damn close. Bama lost to NC runner up in ridiculous fashion, otherwise would have been in the NC game, Oregon finished 11-2, OU won the Sugar Bowl, Clemson won a BCS bowl, OSU was in the B1G champ game and in a BCS bowl. Geez, it's not like Steele got his predictions crazy wrong. Even if UM fares better than the predictors to the same extent that Steele was 'wrong' about those predictions you pointed out...the result would still be not good.
what did they do the last 2 years in this running stat?...I think everyone on this site forgets that MSU was 7-6 two years ago...why? they played all of their games close and lost half of them (roughly)...I think we have done the same thing for 3 years. Played all (OK most) of our games close and only in the first year did we win more than ~ 1/2. That first year, we were lucky...but what happened to MSU the past year? I am willing to bet that this new running stat didn't change much yet they went 13-1!
How come? because QB obviously but I also think that a few other things happened - key positions had upperclassmen, several of their 3* guys turned into NFL players, their defensive system (which they have been using for 5-6 years) became cutting edge, etc...
In the end, football is played so much "tighter" than the old days (in terms of score). Yes, Akron and UConn should never had happened (I blame O coaching, OLine play, defensive "soft" play, etc.), but if you can improve one or two drives (i.e. stop 1 or 2 more or score 1 or 2 more) you became MSU from last year. Let's hope Nuss can change it one drive on offenese and Mattison grow some balls on defense.....
The difference is that MSU went 7-6 with an elite defense and a terrible offense. UM went 7-6 with a decent defense and a below average offense (for the terribleness of the OL, the pass game was still, at times, deadly considering Gardner's ability to pick up yards with his legs as well).
I point this out because MSU's solution was simpler. All they had to do was mediocre the offense and keep the defense at it's level and they would be very, very good. UM does not have that luxury. If UM wants to go 13-1, they need to improve both sides of the ball, not just one.
Which member of the Harbaugh coaching tree will be the new head coach at Michigan next year?
Thanks for that...
I'm still baffled that a team can manage to break school records for the best offensive game (Indiana) and the worst (MSU) in the same season. They were totally unpredictable. It seems the only hope is that Jabrill Peppers really is the savior that he's made out to be.
I'm surprised the team won 7 games. Hopefully we bottomed out and will rise, I doubt we will get back to the top 30 but getting above 80 would be great. Nuss will play to strengths, so I think we will have a better conference record but 8-4 still looks like the target. 2015, there will be more depth and experience on the OL, so we should make a big jump. The key work is patients, things will get better in '15 and beyond!
The reason our defense of stats were somewhat poor was because our offense was that bad. That defense is on the field all day long. I just don't see how people really get upset with our defense of coordinator.
Anyone who disagrees didn't watch the games.
I disagree, and I watched the games. It's not like they stopped Indiana, Kansas State, and Ohio State all through the first half and then collapsed towards the end of the game. The only game all year where that really applied was the MSU game. This squad was statistically on par with the shitty 2008 unit that got Scott Shafer fired, which is saying a lot because 2013 team played probably the worst slate of offenses that a Michigan team has played in 20 years. There were tons of opportunities for a mediocre defense to pad its stats against abysmal teams like Akron, UConn, and an injury-depleted Nebraska. The only truly redeeming quality of the defense was that they were good at forcing drive kiling interceptions. Beyond that, the defense was a sieve that almost never forced three-and-outs or made tackles for loss.
Speaking of 2008, the "the defense was good but they were always tired" logic was used that year too. It was as invalid then as it is now.
But really I'm trying to put all that behind me and move on. You're not helping and I respectfully request that all future posts are nothing but lollipops and rainbows. This post was seconded by the poor cat in the corner who is tired of getting kicked.
Ok this is just my refusal to accept the facts because I don't like them, but is it that far off to say that Borges' performance last year was the epitome of Gerg-esqueness? Brian, didn't you say at one point last fall that if he were intentionally trying to destroy the line's cohesiveness, he wouldn't be doing anything different? Can that truth give us a little hope for next year, at least? Reviewing posts with the tag, "al Borges I don't even know," certainly make me think so...
Let us hope we have the same turn around on the o-line that we did on defense when Coach Mattison took over. Then let us hope that we don't need any more turn arounds for awhile(ever).
By year three of his stint at Colorado State, Funk's squad was averaging 2.5 yards per carry (114th out of 119th). In year four, they improved to 3.8 yards per carry (71st out of 120), on their way to a 3-9 record. Improvement, huzzah!
THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION TO ASK IS DOES THE BACK TO BACK REVERSE PHILOSOPHY REMAIN A STAPLE OF THE MICHIGAN OFFENSE UNDER NUSSMEIER???!
Firing Borges was probably the right thing to do, but I'm not optimistic. The offensive line has looked noticably worse every year since Hoke arrived. The current staff harvested the quality upperclassmen that were put in place by the previous staff. That previous staff also left some holes but there's absolutely no indication that Darrell Funk could have developed anyone had they been here. I never buy "youth" as an excuse for a team that gets worse as the season goes along, and that's what happened with Michigan last year. A young team with competent coaching has problems, but it improves. "Youth" was thrown around as an excuse for RichRod's terrible defenses, and it was bullshit then too.
Michigan's offensive line last year was a piss poorly coached unit. It's obvious from looking at it. You don't need charts or fancy stats to see it.
34.5% of our runs went for 5+ yds.
30% of our runs went for 0- yds.
Brian - does that combined number (64.5%) stand out from the rest of the teams?
...and that was WITH a two time All American and offensive lineman of the year as an anchor.
Gawd please let it be Borgess' fault...