Pick Up The Damn Phone Comment Count

Brian

21536344272_e670d65acc_z

[Patrick Barron]

You will not be surprised that the Rashad Weaver decommitment set off another media/twitter/message board tempest. The guy who called Kyle Flood "real" two weeks before his grade-fixing scandal came to light has weighed in. Teddy Greenstein has resumed calling Michael Spath a hack so he doesn't have to actually address Michigan's point of view. Lawyers from Alabama have invaded my mentions.

This is not a good state of affairs. It is not the End of Integrity, as the pearl-clutching wing of the fanbase has fretted. The decommits will sign elsewhere; they won't have to transfer or take a medical midway through their careers. Finding yourself with a guy who would be better off elsewhere is inevitable and it's better to rip off the bandaid.

Michigan isn't in this situation because it's evil or untrustworthy, but rather because it's been disorganized and sloppy. There are countless examples just this year of similar decommits that were handled much better, like when Florida commit Isaiah Williams flipped to Washington State in December. Was that a voluntary switch? Not bloody likely. Did it cause a rending of garments and beating of the breast? Not at all.

Michigan took a number of early commits from fringe players, and they did so without checking up on grades. While there have been no complaints from anyone other than Swenson and Weaver, the sheer number of decommits looks bad even if Michigan has valid reasons for consciously uncoupling. There was no reason to take commits from a slew of academically questionable three stars this summer. Michigan gave them a plan to get right and they couldn't get there, which is fine. More or less dropping contact with them is not.

Meanwhile Michigan's two talent-based decommits were given broad hints but not told flat out until they did not want to take those hints. Whether or not this is how it's done elsewhere, that's the equivalent of breaking up with your girlfriend via meaningful eyebrow arcing and the occasional pursed lip. It results in confusion and people buying you gun racks.

Erik Swenson should have been explicitly dumped as soon as he did not show for Michigan's summer camp, and certainly by October, when his midseason senior film arrived in Ann Arbor. Weaver got enough of a message that he started looking around in November; his situation should have been made explicitly clear by midseason at the latest as well.

This is both ethically better and less damaging to the program. A Swenson set loose in October is both more capable of finding an appropriate landing spot and less capable of setting off a media firestorm. If Rashad Weaver simply flips to one of the four schools he visited over the course of the season his decommit is as newsworthy as that of Isaiah Williams, ie, not newsworthy except to Washington State fans.

So. To prevent further outbreaks, pick up the damn phone. By December.

Comments

MC5-95

January 26th, 2016 at 2:59 PM ^

It's common sense. Is Michigan going to have a scholarship in this upcoming class after NSD? Is Ohio State? USC? 

Come on man. Are you being serious? 

Later edit: Go ahead and neg me all you want. Your comment was stupid.

MC5-95

January 26th, 2016 at 3:07 PM ^

But some of the decommits at UM in the past month have been been because of academics, which means that at a program like Michigan's all of that is being taken into account before NSD. Not saying every program does that or has always done that (Dorsey), and I'm not saying that there might not be a stray spot at a small percentage of schools after NSD. But it's the (small) exception, not the rule.

To say (as you're implying) that it's all okay to let a kid know a couple weeks before NSD because it's all made up bullshit is short changing the kids and making an (bad) excuse for bad behavior on the part of UM in these few small cases.

kb

January 26th, 2016 at 3:17 PM ^

On the one hand, the staff could have cut them loose earlier (this is qualified by only knowing one side of the story). On the other hand, kids have to read the hints from the staff (no contact) and go elsewhere before waiting OR ask the staff for a guaranteed spot (if that answer is no, go elsewhere). Almost everyone know this was coming and you think the recruit is the only one who doesn't know? Both will land in a program if they are good enough.

recklessaBrandon

January 26th, 2016 at 3:05 PM ^

They probably will not this year but they have in years past . Just from my memory:

2008 - waited on Terrell Pryor

2012 - Kozan vision question

2014 - Malik McDowell saga

2015 - banked a lot of scholarships, reports of guys maybe committing after signing day

 

Seems like a lot of programs will have at least one spot open after signing day because of players leaving, last minute decommitments, guys not academically qualifying, taking their chances on a late decider to who chooses someone else, etc. I don't think his comment was stupid. A good selection of teams will have room for who they really want (I actually don't think that many schools really want Swenson FWIW). 

 

recklessaBrandon

January 26th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^

Did I ever disagree with Brian or imply what I would I would say to Swenson if I were Harbaugh? I think the staff should have cut him lose in the summer/fall. 

I just disagreed with your ridiculous assertion that classes at programs like Michigan are always full after signing day and that any recruit that wants to commit is  completely out of luck after signing day. 

Also, I don't think Swenson would have signed with a quality (top 20 or so recruiting) football program regardless of when he decommitted from Michigan/commited to a different school. He just isn't a high caliber recruit.

M-Dog

January 26th, 2016 at 2:57 PM ^

There is a corollary to this problem that is faced by regular University Admissions.  They have to accept more applicants than they have slots for because not everyone they "offer" will enroll there.  Even Harvard accepts kids that wind up going to Yale.

One of the Yield-Management techniques they use is Wait-Listing.  You are flat out told that you are Plan B.  They want other "better" candidates for your slot, but if they don't get them, you're in.

Nobody's feelings get hurt because you know where you stand right up front.  There is no forced "decommit" because you never had a "committable" offer in the first place.  You only have a contingency scenario that may or may work out in your favor.

Guys like Saban and Meyer have learned over time to do this kind of "Wait Listing" for Plan B recruits.  Look at their public commits through the summer and fall.  The numbers are small, and the number of marginal 3-star types are even smaller.  They have a lot of guys waiting in the background with no pre-conceived expectations.  

They are much more sophisticated about it than Harbaugh and staff have been so far.  There is some catching up to do in this area.

AC AT

January 26th, 2016 at 2:56 PM ^

Last summer when Michigan was handing out offers to under the radar kids plenty of fans were questioning it. For months now many have questioned how there is going to be enough spots on this roster with so many promising high caliber targets. 

For the most part those fans were told, don't worry Jim Harbaugh has a plan. Michigan won't resort to those recruiting tactics like moving on from kids that have committed. 

On January 26th it has become clear that he should have picked up the damn phone. So  those questioning this all along had legit concerns. 

Communication is certainly the key to all of this and Michigan hasn't had their chance to tell their side of it. However, I HIGHLY doubt they will even comment on this.

 

Brady Elliott

January 26th, 2016 at 3:24 PM ^

I'm very curious if Harbaugh will first of all be asked about this specific point and if he will answer it specifically. If the staff really was upfront in their communications, there would be no reason to state otherwise or hide from the question. A simple, "we communicated openly with our recruits and let them know of their standing within the class in a reasonable time to make proper decisions" would suffice. It says enough to not defame weaver and the other recruits but gives enough information to be held accountable to. If he ignores the question, it would only feed the detractors. Transparency (within reason) should be used on signing day and subsequent events where questions will arise.



Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad

andrewgr

January 26th, 2016 at 5:01 PM ^

The only people "questioning" what was going to happen were Michigan fans.

To everyone else, it was a foregone conclusion that this exact scenario was going to happen.  It was obvious that it was the only possible end game.  It's what he did at Stanford, right down to refusing to have the balls to talk to the recruit on the phone.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: hypocricy was invented by religion but perfected by sports.  The same people that are claiming that this goes on everywhere (it doesn't, not even at football factories) or that it's just a matter of poor communicaiton (it isn't, failing to communicate is just the cherry on top of the screw-you sundae) would be frothing at the mouth rabidly attacking any other coach or program for doing the same thing.   100% guaranteed.

BIGBLUEWORLD

January 26th, 2016 at 2:59 PM ^

If Jim Harbaugh needs any coaching on how to handle this situation better, he can talk with Hackett or his dad Jack.

Nstravia

January 26th, 2016 at 3:10 PM ^

Hopefully, these unfortunate recruiting events don't begin to sour Rashad Gary's Mom on Michigan.  She seems to be the pivotal factor in where he will go.  Probably getting phone calls from Ole Miss coaches as I write this.  (Shudder)

Kevin13

January 26th, 2016 at 3:11 PM ^

The problem is Michigan probably would've stuck with both Swenson and Weaver, if something better had not come along recently. It's easy to say pick up the phone in December, but if you would've taken them then your not going to turn them loose.

 

I think we had been souring on them and it was just recently they decided they didn't have room for either one. Not to say it makes it right, but it's the landscape of recruiting now.

Dailysportseditor

January 26th, 2016 at 3:19 PM ^

Why put all the blame on Harbaugh? Communication is a two-way street. Commits can call or text to verify where they stand. This is like a relative complaining you never call them. If you want communication, then initiate it.

The reality of verbal offers and of life is that THINGS CHANGE. (There was a great movie comedy with this title. I suggest those who are chastising Harbaugh and UM watch it and just chill.

jbwolves87

January 26th, 2016 at 3:33 PM ^

This is all part of the plan. Michigan is getting talked about positively and negatively. There's a new article from each region daily about how horrible Harbaugh is. This isn't a bad thing. The big time recruits will still come and want to play here. The parents and the kids are being told what's up. The timing is on when the kids decide to decommit. Harbaugh isn't breaking any rules, just the internet.

ca_prophet

January 26th, 2016 at 3:47 PM ^

If communication is occurring but it's not being reported, then we have a perception problem. If communications isn't occurring or isn't effective, we have a different problem. Figuring out which recruits had communication issues and which are perception issues is the first step in figuring out what we have to fix. Based on the evidence to date, we don't have an ethics problem (we're not booting players on the team without degrees, we're not making people take gray shirts after they're on campus, we're not making recruits already on campus try out for the team or take a medical, etc.). I don't have a problem with saying "unless your grades change a lot you won't get an offer" or "we're still recruiting your position and have limited scholarships" or "you have to do X, Y and Z to keep your offer" as long as it is crystal clear to both parties what we're agreeing to. (I don't like it but it is not against the rules or unfair enough for me to not accept it as an adequate way for Michigan to do business.) Just tell people where they stand. The earlier the better.

ryebreadboy

January 26th, 2016 at 4:04 PM ^

I don't understand why everyone is so shocked by this. Sure, Harbaugh and Co. could've been more explicit. But someone (I think Drevno) said straight out that they were blown away by the caliber of interested recruits late in the year. I think next year you'll see a lot less borderline offers going out early. Let's keep in mind these coaches are new to Michigan (at least in a coaching capacity) and are trying to get their feet under them. And for God's sake quit with the pearl-clutching and woe-is-me-ing. Shit happens. These kids will be fine.



Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad

Yeoman

January 26th, 2016 at 5:00 PM ^

He knows he doesn't want to hire Miles, he doesn't want the shitstorm from the Miles-supporting faction that would come with that decision, so he arranges to not be available when the call comes in.

Here the staff knows they want to cut a commit loose, they don't want the bad PR that would come with pulling an accepted offer, so they stop taking calls and hope the problem will simply go away.

In Martin's case I suppose it sort of worked. Better to have the Miles camp thinking "that incompetent screwed it up" than "those Carr guys fucked us over again." Anger focused on Martin is less likely to be divisive, especially since Martin knew he'd soon be gone.

Here it's just kicking the can, putting off a problem until it turns into a worse problem. Needs to stop.

maize-blue

January 26th, 2016 at 6:30 PM ^

Harbaugh has too many damn people on his staff to not make these processes go smoother.

I'll guess that they will learn from this and approach these situations a little more proactively and with clearer intent. Hopefully moving forward, we won't see any of this kind of information get to the public.

M-Dog

January 26th, 2016 at 6:23 PM ^

Here is what I learned from all this:  Michigan is the girl that looks in the mirror one day and realizes she is so much hotter than she thought.

People are fighting to be with us.  Feelings are hurt and names are called when that does not happen.  It creates a scandal when we look around.  We have to be very careful about what we say and how we say it.  Our attention or lack thereof beaks people's hearts.

We are not just school A that can be replaced with similar school B on short notice.  We matter.

I can live with that.

 

uncleFred

January 26th, 2016 at 7:26 PM ^

If we ingore the very real possibility that Weaver and Swenson would still have a slot if someone the coaches liked better hadn't come along, there is still the undeniable issue of ending comminications with a high school athlete who believes his commitment to Michigan has been accepted by the coaches. No amount of spin can make this behavior into that reasonably expected of a professional coaching staff at an athletic program at a top university. Period. 

On Touch the Banner Lanknows quite rightly refers to this behavior as spineless, and he is 100% correct. 

I deeply respect Harbaugh and I am damn glad he's here. I struggle to understand, assuming the lack of communication described by Weaver is true, how Harbaugh trained by Bo could be so tone deaf. 

There is a lot to grind through here, much of which we are unlikely every to fully know, but in a sense it doesn't matter. Michigan has never, at least openly, played fast and loose with recruits and this is no time to start. 

Other than the communication vacuum, which, if it occurred must never happen again, this staff needs to be much more careful about what commitments they accept or appear to accept. For those of you who say "well the coaches can't comment" you're right, but if a recruit claims to have committed when the coaches said no, the school should pull the offer. Harbaugh doesn't have to comment on any recruit, it can be policy "if a recruit commits early against the advice of the coaching staff their offer will be pulled". It's not rocket science.

Umich97

January 26th, 2016 at 7:43 PM ^

I once broke up with a chick by just stopping to call her and when we finally spoke 3-4 months later, she was pissed. Then I asked myself "isn't it a bit strange that she's pissed, even though she never called me that whole time either"?

My point is, if you haven't heard from the coaches in say two months, wouldn't you pick up the phone, send an email, text, or something? The only way you don't, is if you know that you don't really want answers to the questions you would ask.



Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad

BrightonB

January 26th, 2016 at 8:50 PM ^

JH just is finishing his first full year.  He came in at full speed into this.

JH might not of truly liked the talent that Hoke and company had liked.

He just hired a new DC that might want new people as well.

Kids can change their mind and oopsy ... no big deal.

If our coaches change their mind then it's the Evil Empire at work.

I think for either party it's ok for them to do that (part ways before signing day).

People rush to judgment as usual in many cases and don't wait to hear the full stories.

It's laughable at some of your reactions.  I get it ... if we deeply and truly committed to a kid we should honor it. The truth is though, unless it's on paper and both parties have signed it, it means jack squat.

In this era of not letting coaches have plenty of time, it's a win or get out.

Rich Rod ... didn't win enough .. bye .... what was it .. 4 years.

Hoke .... didn't win enough ...bye ... sheeeesh.

Many coaches in both CFB and NFL might only get a couple years and bye bye.

It's a win now world (which is ridiculous bye the way) but this is where we are.

I am VERY glad to have JH and this staff.  Completely over the top happy!

I think personally, again, JH has one year into this.  He needed to weed through players he probably wouldn't have looked at.  We also are not allowed to hear his side of things as it's forbidden.

So, why don't all you that are quick to slam the door, give him a couple years to get this all straight.

He had a GREAT first year.  He made us all smile again.  He wants to win.  Our team played and finished games and were very competative.

These kids, again, change their minds we can change ours too.  If you or the NCAA wants to stop all this madness change the rules.  If kids REALLY want to commit then have them be able to sign the paperwork and the coaches do the same.  It will solve a lot.  Then make them both have to sign to get out of said agreement and both parties have to agree or something along those lines.

College football is truly a business and it's in business to keep its fans happy because many fans are over the top ridiculous.  So ...... if you are an owner of a business and you have a new salesman prospect that can make you $300,000 a year (and that would make you happy) you take him.   Just before you call in that salesman to sign the paperwork a new prospect pops up (of similar demeanor and quality) at the last second that can guarantee you $1,000,000 in sales and boost your business you would be a fool to not take that new prospect.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Just like on the football field. You exploit and do all you can within the rules to make a win for your team.  Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in being cruel, but it seems in some of these most recent cases after the dust settles there were words exchanged and hints left and nothing was written in stone.  People just start hanging others without the facts.  It's just truly annoying.

Give JH and staff a couple years to get this massive ship up and moving like it should.  Patience is needed and just let him get through these bumps in the road.  He needed, in my opinion, time to get through the older staffs recruits and again he hit the floor at warp speed.  Not to mention a new DC with new needs so there were bound to be some bumps the first couple years.  

Be easy!

Fenrir the Righteous

January 26th, 2016 at 8:44 PM ^

I just logged in to say the first time I heard the term "conscious uncoupling" all I could think was "I hope that doesn't catch on, Chris Martin has already had enough cultural impact." I guess it's mitigated here by the fact that if ever there were a place for bs relationship euphemisms, it would be in the sphere of 'crootin.

uminks

January 26th, 2016 at 11:44 PM ^

Harbaugh did not know that Rudock would develop the way he did,  he did not know how well the defense would play. There were many unknown variables last summer, and he figured if he only was able to win 6 or 7 games then he would have decent recruits locked up. However, he won 9 games plus the bowl game and top recruits have taken noticed. I think Harbaugh could have communicated with these early recruits better. I just hope the Michigan fans, alums and the University will not go too hard on Harbaugh. Harbaugh at any time could make an exit stage left to the NFL. I support Harbaugh and think he will explain everything after signing day.

BornInA2

January 27th, 2016 at 12:31 AM ^

100% completely agree with this post. Take the high fucking road, coaching staff. Even if you aren't required to do so, do it fucking anyway. Because it's the right way to treat other human beings, and treating other humans properly is far, far more important than winning some marginal, incremental extra number of football games.

Don

January 27th, 2016 at 1:02 AM ^

"Not making a decision is the worst thing you can do. So long as you feel you made the right decision based on the information you had at that time, there's no need to fret about it. If it fails, you'll know what to do next time.”  — Bo's Lasting Lessons

From everything that's known, JH and his staff put off making a final clear, unequivocal decision on both Swenson and Weaver until very late in the recruiting process. Refusing to return phone calls from recruits is not a clear, unequivocal decision—it's delaying a decision that could have been made many weeks earlier.

agostic

January 27th, 2016 at 2:22 AM ^

Let the noises be noises. It's their freedom of expression. But, hey, just don't violate the NCAA rules.

Then, develop the players and win the games. Don't make the situation complicated and get distracted to forget doing your job. Then, it's idiot.

agostic

January 27th, 2016 at 2:39 AM ^

"Those who stay will be champions." but wait, we had waited for 7 years and still no championship. Fortunately, JH's coming to change it. But, he has to change the culture of competitiveness.

HarBooYa

January 27th, 2016 at 8:18 AM ^

When Brian writes it better than I can say it so I can continue to be lazy and have him spoon feed me how I think. Best free content on the Internet and another perfectly framed and balanced piece.

Indeed, pick up the damn phone!

agostic

January 27th, 2016 at 10:42 AM ^

Do your job. Get all the noises and distractions off your table. When Hoke came in, he was very welcome. He is nice guy, but after 4 years, he was gone.

When JH came in, he was very welcome again. Now he is doing his job, not quite perfectly. Then, criticism emerges, but you can't shut them up. All you can do is winning. Only winning can shut them up. As long as you don't violate the NCAA rules, you can't do everything to make everyone happy.

Think big, do big. What do you mostly care about? Every one can make mistakes, but if you can't win, everything you do is nothing. 

Like Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, how many years they have been hated? Just do your job. 

How many years we haven't got a B1G championship? How many times we have lost to OSU and MSU in the last 10 years? Are you happy with it? Do you get used to this mediocre reality? When something abnomal happened, do you feel the haven is collapsed? Are you not humiliated by the losses to the OSU and MSU, but feel embarrassed more when JH did something inappropriate? BTW, it's still one-side story, and might be skewed in some way.

Then, let Jim Harbaugh do his job. If he does it right, everything will be ok; if he doesn't it wrong, he will be gone too.