After my graduation less than 24 hours from now, I'll be heading to Cincinnati for a job. Something I didn't think of before accepting this job is now that I'll be working in Ohio (I may live in N. Kentucky just to spend as little time in that crappy state as possible), I will have to pay Ohio income tax. That means that a portion of my hard earned money will be going to tUoOS. Do you think I can withhold that portion of my taxes as a conscientious objector? How do other transplants to OH handle this?
OT: Working in Ohio and Paying Taxes
I worked in Virginia last year, so I had to look into paying taxes to another state. As it turns out, Michigan and Ohio have reciprocity. As I understand it, if you can somehow claim residency in MI, you would not have to pay income taxes to Ohio.
you may have reciprocity with OH.
Don't pay them. It will cost the state to pay for your daily 3 squares, thereby tightening the financial belt around OSU. RR thanks you in advance for being a true Michigan Man.
Live in Dayton, tried to get out of this as well...
If your job is on Ohio, you'll have to at least file a return in Ohio. If your job is in an Ohio city that has an income tax, you'll have to pay it, unless the town you live in has a local income tax, then there's reciprocity where you'll pay only the higher of the two tax rates.
If you have an Ohio residence, you'll pay Ohio state income tax, a school district income tax (special withholding- check with your HR department for help on this), and if your city has one, a city income tax. Try to find a place to live in an unincorporated township as you typically have lower property taxes (if you own a home) and no city income tax for slightly less services (you pay for your own trash pickup, you may well vs. city water, etc).
If you live in NoKY, remember:
1) the traffic is going to be a biiotch in the mornings and at night coming over the bridge(s) into/from downtown Cincy
2) You'll file a return in Ohio and KY every year, adn although the two states have reciprocity on state income taxes, you may get double dinged on local taxes.
WHile I understand your moral dilemma, be aware that part of your Michigan taxes go to support FYS, so you're already skating a fine line there. Worst thing you could have happen is to have some County Mounty from O-H-IDont'Know pull up in your driveway to arrest you as a tax cheat and have him see a Michigan sign in your window. You're sure to get the "Deliverance" treatment at that point.
Also as a tip-- make sure you remember to file an income tax return for Michigan your first year in Ohio to close out your residency....
Since your income taxes will be withheld by an Ohio company, reciprocity will work the other direction. You won't have to pay income taxes in the state you live in if it has reciprocity with Ohio. I have a friend who lives in N. Kentucky and works for P&G. While I am not sure of reciprocity, he does state that Cincinnati is actually a good city, especially when compared to the rest of the state. You will learn to love a local fast food place called Skyline too from what i've been told. Interesting chili.
DO NOT EVER EVER EAT SKYLINE CHILI DOGS.
They are an abomination of a chili looking substance that has been "sweetened" and served with shredded cheese on really little weiners (insert Ohio jokes here). Any self respecting Michigan Man will have a standing order with Lafayette Coney Island to have the real Coney sauce shipped frozen to your location (yes it can be done-- recieved it as a wedding anniversary gift every year for the past three years from my inlaws)
I am a materials science engineer and a detailed chemical analysis I performed on skyline chili in 2006 has indeed confirmed that the composition of said substance is 99% evil incarnate with 1% red wool fiber which I attribute to the company taking lint balls from Tressel's sweater vests and mixing into the spices.
Whoa, never on this board have I disagreed with something so strongly. I used to live in Cincinnati and I still order skyline chili online and have it shipped to LA. That shit is amazing. There were time in Cincinnati where I literally had skyline 3 times a day. There are few things in life that give me more joy than a chili cheese coney from skyline. You, sir, need to get checked out.
I assume your working for P&G. So congrats!
A few things:
-The economy is much better down here.
-Ohio taxes really suck, they stick you everyway they can, high state tax, city etc.
-If you don't stop it's a little over 3 hours from 275 in Cincy to the Big House on game day.
- an added perk living down here is better weather, earlier spring, long summer, late fall.
- also closer to away games, and the Big Ten Basketball tournament in Indy. Purdue is 2.5 hours, IU is 2+ hours, ILL. is about 3.
There are plenty of Wolverines down here, so don't worry about the Buckeyes.
I'm actually going to be doing a post-doc at UC. My fiancee will be looking for a job though in business, so hopefully P&G or others are hiring. Thanks for the tips. Are there any good bars that Wolverines tend to gather at in Nati?
Michigan native here starting medical school at UW-Madison this fall. Good thing it's not quite on the level of Columbus but it's going to be a real interesting experience..
Madison is a nice town and fairly similar to Ann Arbor. As long as you're not an obnoxious dick, you'll be fine. There are plenty of obnoxious dicks in Madison, too, but far fewer of them than in certain schools in states with too high a percentage of vowels.
If they keep declining, you should be able to get football tickets fairly easily. I saw a couple of Michigan games in the late eighties and early nineties when the Badgers stunk--it was much harder to get tickets after the first Rose Bowl.
After last season, I can't imagine they are going to be in bigger demand than before. I know the tickets for grad/professional students are available on 1st-come-1st-served basis in July. So I'll be sure to be up early to grab those ($133 for 7 home games is reasonable). It should be a good time- will definitely catch the Wolverines when they come to Camp Randall this fall.
As a Cincy native I can tell you that yeah, there's always Bucknut nonsense to put up with, but you can always remind yourself that all of those "fans" came out of the woodwork in 2002 (seriously, I never saw much OSU stuff growing up until they "won" that championship). Also, with the recent rise of UC football (that's the University of Cincinnati, not Cal as you will soon learn) a good amount of Buckeye apparel has disappeared in favor of Bearcat apparel. Hilarious and true. Cincinnati sports fans have been suffering for years, and they will latch on to any remotely decent team that they can claim a connection to.
As for paying Ohio taxes--sure, some of it goes to OSU, sadly. But remember that your local school tax may fund the education of the next Charles Woodson or Desmond Howard; Ohio is a huge pipeline state for Michigan football. I'm looking at the spring roster (returning players + early enrollees) and I see 8 players from Ohio. And you may have heard of this guy named Schembechler who was born and raised in Ohio and went to Miami (OH)--another state school that gets your tax money.
And you can't hate on Skyline. Afterall, their main colors are maize and blue ;)*
*Ok, there is a little red. But it's mostly maize and blue.
This is batshit crazy.