It might help to talk about it friends.
OT: Well, hell.
God-##$w Piece of #@$%@, crappy @#$%, #%Q$W, ARST#$!!
Eh, maybe I will retract this when we beat OSU this season.
Beat the Bucks!
God I can't wait for that game *evilly grins*
Hell is right. But I'm angry that the 1st penguin goal shouldn't have counted. Stupid refs!
I feel really bad for Marion Hossa. That has to be like the worst feeling ever. His team loses the cup so he wants to play for the wings cuz he thinks they have the best chance to win it again. Your current team and your former team get back into the finals and this time they win and he comes up short again. Sorry Marion...
Lets go Tigers...
Yeah I feel bad for him in a way, certainly the irony can't be ignored. The upside for him is that if he signs a long term deal he'll get to contend for cups every year while the pens will be back to just hoping to make the playoffs in a few years.
And despite that first goal being BS due to the missed icing, the pens still just flat out wanted it more than the wings, so I give them credit.
This is a pretty informed post on (at least) two aspects: (1) Hossa will not be re-signing in Detroit and never was going to and (2) Pittsburgh's core players are locked up for a long time. To say that the Penguins will be back to just hoping to make the playoffs in a few years is just beyond laughable.
And as we can see from many other teams who have very talented core players locked up that necessitates they will be vying for the cup every season.
Apparently you've never heard of hyperbole either.
I have, but your use if it in this instance wasn't particularly well done.
If you indeed meant it that way (i.e. that many other teams have very talented cores locked up) it's hard to believe that you really think that there are more than two or three other teams have have a more talented core locked up for a longer term than Pittsburgh does. Regardless, that doesn't have anything at all to do with "hoping to make the playoffs" but rather contending for the Cup.
it appears we're about to get into an interpretive hermeneutics discussion, which I have no desire to be a part of.
To your other point, no, there may not be more than a few teams who will have the talent that Pit does for the coming years, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're going to succeed either. I can remember the no. 1 seeded wings (most talented) getting knocked out by the no. 8 seeded oilers a few years ago in the first round. Sure, that's the exception and not the rule, but it happens. I've learned to never dismiss the "X" factor in sports, case in point, the Pens last night.
I don't disagree with any of what you said. I've been a Wings fan for a long time, so I know all about the first round exists. However, that doesn't address the point I was making about your first post. You said "while the pens will be back to just hoping to make the playoffs in a few years." None of what you've said in the above post is about "hoping to make the playoffs", it's about hoping to advance in the playoffs with a highly talented team. That's a big difference and that that's the point I was responding to.
That was the hyperbole. Communication of that sort is not really clear on an internet message board, though, so my fault for not making it clear.
BUT, that's not to say the pens won't actually be in that situation in a few years (heck, even next season), they very well could be and so could the wings. I guess that was the point I was making, that just because you're excessively talented it doesn't guarantee you're going to succeed up to your potential game/series/season.
Oh I completely agree with that. Just look at where the Penguins were in February: 10th place in the East. I took it more as statement that their good players wouldn't be around long, which is a common statement on hockey message boards. My mistake for misinterpreting that.
I can't feel that bad for him, he didn't play his best this entire series.
i thought that too (i don't think he scored in the finals) but for how publicized his trade was I feel bad because he'll never hear the end of it
He just wasn't totally in the game for some reason. I can't really understand what he was doing, but that game last night killed me.
...is hard to pity in this situation. He simply didn't look up to par for most the series.
Another undeserving fanbase satisfied. I hate you, Pittsburgh.
Undeserving fan base? At least Pittsburgh's fans didn't boo during the presentation of the Conn Smythe and the Cup.
pittsburghs fans didnt lose game 7 at home. i cant blame our fans too much, everyone was/is pissed
They were booing Bettman, not the Penguins -- you didn't happen to notice that it stopped as soon as he handed out the trophies?
Actually it didn't stop until after Crosby had handed off the Cup to Guerin, but don't let reality get in your way. Regardless of the motivation it comes across as very classless.
Your observations are the only ones that matter -- the rest of us live in some alternate "reality." As I'm sure you're about to remind me.
Max Talbot is a superstar!
He is because of Stuart's two assists on his goals.
And a little help from the refs on the first goal.
Look the best team didn't win. Thats for sure. At least thats what I think. Pitt won because they had more hunger. Detroit looked like they were going through the motions at times. I will not blame this loss on any player. Its disappointing, but I hope Hossa comes back with with something to prove. He deserves a cup . I still think Detroit is the best hockey team in the world. Lets prove it again next year.
...Stons. All season long you heard talk from Sheed,that the Pistons can *turn it on whenever they need too.* Well when you start thinking like that...someone going to catch you with your pants down. The Wings were exposed the last two games with their pants down...
Stuart sucked. Talbot, Stuart, and Fleury were the Pens three stars, in that order.
The Wings' defensemen as a group sucked. Lidstrom was playing hurt this series and was not fully himself. Stuart sucked in game 7. Ericsson looks young at times. It seemed that every Rafalski shot was blocked in game 7. Lebda was subpar. Kronwall was the exception. He had jump and was hitting people all over.
when you only score one goal. Wing's offense simply disappeared when it mattered most.
a guy i was with tried to pin it on ozzie. you can't blame the goalie for letting in 2. i mean, a championship team should be able to get 2 a game especially at home
Watching Pierre McGuire hug Mario Lemieux right before he interviewed him. Fine "journalism." Wonder where they went afterward.
Unfortunately, Penguins played better when it mattered -- games 6 and 7. They also caught a break when their "superstar" was forced to sit out half of game 7, leaving ice time available for those who could make use of it.
You do realize that McGuire coached Lemieux, right?
He can do whatever he wants on his own time. I think he works for a national network now. Interesting that the hug was only inadvertently caught on camera -- if it's such a swell idea, why not wait 'til you know the cameras are rolling. Oh yeah, that's because it's unprofessional and he knows it.
Why does it really matter? It's not like McGuire has shown favoritism toward the Penguins in the way he calls the games. Olcyzk can be accused of that, but McGuire not so much. I suppose it can be seen as unprofessional, but it was an emotional reaction between two people that are friends. You can say that it was a reaction toward the Penguins, but I really doubt it. It's not like at that moment in time there was some great need for an objective presentation, anyway.
I can't even think of a single other commentator in any sport who's had any sort of past relationship with players/management in a game he's broadcasting! Simply unprecedented! So that must explain why I've never seen a hug like that before.
As for McGuire's unbiased broadcasting -- go back and listen to the end of game 2, which was just the most blatant example. But I'm sure, since you've watched every Penguins and Wings game all year, not to mention countless other Eastern/Western Conference games, you can give me the definitive last word on the subject.
Fuck fuck fuck. Fuck fuck.