That is horrible. What kind of message are we sending to our kids?
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
That is horrible. What kind of message are we sending to our kids?
I was watching an HBO Real Sports episode some time ago and there was a school down in Arizona (I think it was AZ) were the kids were not allowed to even touch one another. No high fives, cool handshakes or pats on the back. Let the minority rule the majority!
i hate reading the news anymore.
And now, expect pretty much every little league in America to adopt a "no sliding" rule. Ugh.
Dark times we are entering yes.
Soon championships will be gone in all sports because "everyone is a winner".
What's the point at working hard and striving for your best when everyone around you will be recorded as an equal no matter how bad they did?
RR pulled his son Rhett from T-ball for this reason. The league operated under the policy of "everyone bats, everyone scores, and everyone is a winner". His response: "To Hell With That!!!"
I really like how you show how the word "equal" is being abused by America. The idea that some one is not equal because they do not have the skill to win is crazy, but I can see it coming!
Can some one tell me, how did this litigious idiot actually win this lawsuit/get her settlement? I am hoping that the kid did not have health insurance, so the league felt sorry for him and offered a settlement that will cover his medical bills. But anything short of that, and these people are just scum.
But I can't imagine that medical bills for that would exceed 10k.. let alone 125k...
And don't give me bullshit about how the kid is traumatized.
I hope he doesn't have any aspirations to play any other organized sports, because no coach in his right mind would allow him on the squad. You know Mom will run through the $150 in a year or so, so she'll need to get paid again.
Although I can understand that the LL organization may have settled our of court to simply to make the case and attendant publicity go away, I think they bear a good deal of the blame for this. There is no way this woman should have gotten a nickel, and the organization should have stuck to their guns.
...how much stuff costs when you go to the hospital. I had a pretty routine procedure I had to take care of a few months ago. Sure, it was surgery, but I was in the hospital for maybe 4 hours. When I saw the bill for it, there were over 15k in costs!
Fortunately, insurance covered basically all of it, but I was floored that something that seemed so straight forward could end up costing so much.
tell you that there are costs that would make people's head spin when they get procedures done at a hospital. I live in Canada where everything is covered (unless it is cosmetic) but when I do my billing (correction, when my secretary does my billing) you get an idea of what things cost.
For a "routine" surgery, depending on whether you are put to sleep or not you are paying for:
3) Assisting Physicians fee
4) Nurses wages (for a routine simple surgery there would be at least 2, maybe more)
5) Cleaning staff wages
6) all medical supplies used during the case
This is not even the complete list (I am a nephrologist, not a surgeon) but most of what you pay for is there, I know I am leaving a couple things out. Also, most procedures have a flat rate for the surgeon to perform so it isn't an hourly thing. If you had your gall bladder out via a laprascopic surgery you are probably paying the surgeon at least $10,000.00 for that surgery alone.
Having said all that, it would be impossible for this child to have incurred $150K of medical expenses for something like this. I think this LL did LL's around your country a huge disservice as this will likely be precident setting.
On a side note, I have always found it interesting/scarry how easy it is to sue people and win in the USA. Personally, I don't know how Dr.'s dare to practice down there.
Damn, back in the day we signed release forms. Granted, mine was made of stone, but isn't this commonplace?
Of course, I volunteered to play football with no helmet because we didn't have them and............urm.....what was I saying??
What is wrong with people? Off topic, I was at a Whitecaps game last night and a lady got smoked in the head with a foul ball because, as always, 95% of people don't pay attention at baseball games. She caused a huge stir and I heard the "sue" word being thrown around. Come on people.
I was at that game. I got wrecked.
As did I.
Did you see the lady get smoked by the foul ball? Actually two ladies did. One got a line drive in the ribs.
I only spent about 2 innings in my seat. The rest was in line or on the concourse.
The Whitecaps are the only baseball team I've actually been to that I watched. It was a whole lot more entertaining than watching it on tv!
She can't sue. People have tried. Judges have repeatedly smacked them down.
I was at the Tigers game yesterday and had outfield box seats right along the first base line. You better believe I was watching the action every at bat. As a result, two things happened; I didn't get beaned with a foul ball and I watched the game. What a concept!
on the pussification of america... but how many times are we going to steal days old Deadspin posts and put them on the board here without referenicing where it came from - like you found the article yourself?? You even stole the exact title of their post. Its been happening on this board frequently as of late.
People still read Deadspin?
Sorry folks I did link to that article from DeadSpin....but the phrase "Pussification of America" I actually coined from Sean Baligian when he was on 1130 WDFN The Fan. He would do weekly stories on articles like the one I referenced above. I didnt realize some squeeker would get offended.
I'm pretty sure George Carlin coined the term pussification. He mentions it either in Complaints and Grievances or You're All Diseased.
"The continued pussification of the American male in form of Harley Davidson theme restaurants."
Your absolutely correct.
For having a completely unrelated, yet very, very valid message in your avatar.
I, too, am a believer.
YOU can coin something SOMEONE else said.........
Deadspin hasn't been cool and edgy in like 3 and half years. The fact that they still desperately try to milk the Barbaro story for yuks all these years later is the biggest sign of what a shell they've become. Really, the beginning of the end was Will Leitch's transformation from fun, quirky sports blogger to HEY ESPN LICK MY ASS LOL douchebag.
As someone mentioned, what the heck happened to the liability waiver?
The article says that a judge still needs to approve the settlement. Hopefully whatever judge they have isn't out of his freaking mind and turns it down.
Apparently the money is coming from the local organizations. This surprises me that a local little league has $125k (or will have that much over the course of years it is paid out).
I work in insurance, specializing in businesses with kids, and unfortunately this stuff is pretty common.
The major problem is that signing away liability isn't as cut and dry with kids as it is with adults. Since they're minors, the parents sign the forms, but the courts don't always allow for someone to fully sign for someone else.
So, the bottom line is that all of you should buy lots of liability insurance, let me know if you need any.
But if he was, he'd be saying: "One insurance policy please!"
and my brother (who is a Lawyer) has told me repeatedly that waivers aren't worth the paper they're written on, whether for children or adults. The bottom line is that it is extremely hard to sign away someones liability/responsibility/accounability and at the end of the day, if you have a good lawyer they will generally get you money whether you signed one or not.
A great disservice to all the kids involved in the sport.
Where is dad in all this? Bring the hammer, big man! Don't let wifey make a decision that will heap disgrace upon your family. More importantly: Don't let her turn your son into a sniveling weakling!!!
Remember, men: The pussification of America starts at home.
that is truly awful.
It's Staten Island. Just saying.
Robert Gates should sue Mrs. Jean Gonzalez of Meiers Corners for weakening the National Defense by popping out and raising a brat that's clearly going to be 4-F on both physical and emotional grounds.
Further evidence of pussification? Marine Corps Style:
When I was in boot camp, a recruit's mother called our company office to complain about her son being picked on too much. I'm pretty sure the drill instructor got in some sort of trouble.
I'm in Iraq right now, and if I were to tell one of my Marines to do some pushups, I could be charged with hazing and demoted. Same thing if I were to make an overweight Marine run more unless I were to run with them.
That's truly insane. My father was career Army, and he complained bitterly when the new recruits were permitted to do their timed runs in sneakers instead of boots. Times change I guess.
Will you be able to watch much football this fall? Stay safe, and thanks.
When I was in boot camp (old school) it didn't take long for me to figure out that mother was only half a word.
to have some help getting through university (for each year you served you had a certain amount of your education paid for) and boot camp was crazy. This wasn't old school either, we are only talking about the 90's here but it was flat out nuts.
I remember the first night I arrived at the base I got in after everyone else had already gone to sleep. Unbeknownst to me, before I arrived everyone was given a tutorial as to what they could expect in the a.m. and how to put on their uniform and a brief review of what the different badges meant (who was a private and who was a General etc)....I missed all this. So, needless to say when I was still sleep ing at 6 a.m. the shit hit the fan. Sarge came in a flipped me out of my cot onto the floor and started cursing his face off at me about what a "bag of shit" I was....I had no idea who he was or what his rank was so I just said "Yes sir".....That proved to be a huge mistake because you only call officers "Sir" and people who aren't officers, generally think they are overpaid pieces of crap who do nothing all day.
Anyway, after screaming at me for about 5minutes while I tried to get dressed he was told I missed the tutorial the night before so he eased up a bit, but continued to ride me for the next couple days until I proved I was no pussy.
Back then when I guy f@#*ed up he got what was termed a "blanket party" where you waited until the person was asleep and someone would hold a blanket over his head while people beat him with socks that were full of bars of soap. This generally only happened when someone was either a "rat" or got the rest of the squad in trouble for something they had done.
I can't believe we now have mommy calling because her son is getting made fun of and what is worse...that people are taking her seriously....Do these guys understand that these boys have to go out and fight a WAR!!!!! If they can't take getting made fun of how are they going to handle having bullets shot at their ass without having mommy there to wave the white fucking flag for them!
Hearing this definintely depresses me.
In all fairness, the DI did proceed to own the kid basically the rest of the 13 weeks. The fact that someone wrote home during Marine boot camp and had mommy call to get the DI yelled at just blew my mind.
pussification would be a good thing, but no.
what a country we live in.
This case is a microcosm of our society. America is evolving into a cannibalistic, socialized, impotent giant. I hate discussing politics, but here it goes: The government is fucking.this.place.up, and the people are getting sick of it.
The fact that you fail to comprehend everyone's frustration with this story leads me to believe that you are a lawyer. I hate politicians and lawyers. Universal healthcare sucks. Pineapple.
So are you a lawyer or not?
I feel like I am talking to the two doors on the David Bowie movie, "Labyrinth".
"One of always tells the truth, and the other always lies".
If you are not a lawyer, then you are telling the truth.
If you are a lawyer, then you would be damn good at lying about it.
That is frickin' hilarious! +1 for the ICP
Senator Martinez, is that you?
I think there is a tea party waiting for you somewhere.
Bo was a staunch conservative.
Get the fuck over it.
And Lloyd is a staunch liberal. And RichRod wants to spread the wealth. And Red Berenson is a Canadian. What the hell has that got anything to do with anything?
Red's Canadianism flies directly in the face of everything that is America! I demand action! He's a part of the pussification!
Assuming that the Little League had insurance, the insurance company handled this.
You were right to point out that this was a settlement and the judge never made a ruling.
The insurance company settled because they didn't want to pay the lawyers fees and also didn't want to have a precedent set. If they had gone to trial and lost, this case would have destroyed the insurance business.
I'm not a fan of the case, but I think with so little information it's hard to judge the mom. If this was just some plan to get rich, the mom is an ass. However, maybe she didn't have adequate insurance, maybe she was stuck with huge hospital bills. We would all like to think that we wouldn't take this route, but facing bankruptcy makes these decisions a lot more difficult.
I'm not surprised that Little League would want to settle. Although it might have won in court, fighting this thing might have been bad for its public image. You and I might agree that there's always a random chance of injury when you play sports, but some parents of young children might hear that argument, freak out, and decide not to put their kids through Little League.
Oh wait, this wasn't even a case! It was a settlement. There was not even precedential value in this
If you think that only cases that go to court and are ruled on by a judge are precedent setting you are sadly mistaken.
As someone has already informed you previously this was most certainly handled by the insurers and this type of thing sets precidents in their minds I will tell you that. This is not a criminal case so what precedent it sets from a legal stand point is not as important as the precedent it sets in the mind of free loaders accross the country who want to get paid so they get little Johnny to slide into second base and fake an injury.
You said somewhere you were rational....while that may be true, I don't think you are very realistic if you think this doesn't set a precedent.
I agree 100% with everything you just said. Not everyone disagrees with you.
prescription for Xanax. You should look into that.
That I have always thought that if Bo were still alive and a member of the MGoCommunity, he would post topics like this all the time on the board. In fact I think Bo wrote a book about how to "stop the pussification of America."
He'd also have posts like "OT: How To Spot Communists in Your Own PTA", or "Why Corporal Punishment Should Legalized In Hospitals", or "Recruiting California, plus why 'Organic' is fraudulent!!1!".
I guess I'll only have my dreams.
Can Antonio Bass sue the NCAA for injuring himself?
Sometimes shit just happens. It's not automatically someone else's fault.
If he tried to do it, I'd probably give him a hand. If only because I still so desperately want him to be playing for us in some way, shape, or form.
was probably the worst thing that's happened to Michigan football in the last five years, and I'm not kidding in the slightest about that.
these pussies who are ruining our society. When I read things like this, it literally makes me cringe in disgust. F U and you're pussy of a son lady! Enjoy scraping him out of his locker over the next few years.