not often i'd post a forum topic this OT or ever attach a link to TMZ but... the prince has died. And that's messed up.
OT: The Prince has died
...also says he's just hospitalized.
LA Times updated, and said he's in a coma.
I really hope that was a joke...it's sad that Farrah Fawcett died, and it sucks that her death will be overshadowed. BUT...Michael Jackson is one of the 5 greatest entertainers EVER. If he is dead, this is like Elvis, Lennon, or Cash. Farrah just doesn't match up. Not to mention she had been sick and her death wasn't a huge surprise.
How about the ol' "bad things come in 3's". Michael Jackson, Farrah Fawcett, Ed McMahon...
I'm not a Michael Jackson fan by any means, but the man sold billions of records. He was the KING of pop music. This is indeed, just as big as Elvis, Lennon, and Cash.
Even some of his new stuff but everything just went down hill in a hurry after all the legal trouble.
Remember the good and forget the bad.
very well said...
It's kind of hard to forget the fact that he was a fucking child molester, don't ya think?
...give it time. Unless you were one of kids. Then give it lots and lots of prescription meds. And booze.
doesn't mean he had done what was alleged to have done. MJ prolly felt,in order to deal with the method to the maddness...pay those who are bringing the maddness. The court case an the outcome speaks for itself. Like it or not...he was found not gulity.
...and Godwin's Law once again holds true.
Volkswagens... mini-buses and bugs are basically Heil-mobiles
add James Brown to the above list please. I can't use the word 'entertainer' with thinking the godfather of soul.
LA Times just updated at 3:15 PST that he has died.
Any truth to the rumor he was looking at pictures of newly buff Tate when he had a heart attack?
That's terrible, but very funny.
Tate is too old for his liking
Maybe a little soon but congrats on the balls it took to post that.
After reading the title, I thought Tayshaun had been traded.
I thought the exact same thing
RIP Michael, not fun to watch someones life unravel, especially someone as talented as Michael.
Hopefully now people can actually value his gift to the world and not give him crap about being so damn weird at the end of his life. The first MJ, the king of pop, will be truly missed.
CNN now says that he died.
Pretty shocking news. Wouldn't rule out suicide, really: once the '80s flopped over to the '90s his life was one big tabloid headline, and he's in debt up to his eyeballs. Much of it his own doing, but I really wouldn't wish that lifestyle on anyone.
Not gonna lie, either: he made some damn good music back in the day. "Beat It" is ten kinds of fun to play on Guitar Hero.
was getting ready for a 50 show tour. Wanted to make one last run.
"MSNBC says the LA TIMES has confirmed Michael Jackson has died at the age of 50."
You might not like Mikey but his popularity is unquestionable. The news of his death has overwhelmed Twitter and was temporally down. Farrah or Ed's deaths combined didn't create that sort of buzz.
Popularity or notoriety? I'm not sure Michael Jackson was as popular as he was famous.
My kids don't believe me when I tell them how big he was in the early-mid eighties. He was every bit as big as Elvis to those born after about 1960. Its is easy to be too cool for him now or be disturbed by the later stuff, but in the early to mid 80's, everyone was a fan no matter what they say now. And he freaked me out as much as any in the later years.
Oh, popular then, I definitely believe. Thriller's still the #1 album of all time ever, isn't it? These days he's unfortunately been more of a sideshow than a rock star, and there's a whole generation of folks, me included, that missed out on the popularity and went straight to the weirdness. And a lot of other people who'd been fans were probably turned off by the more sordid details of his life. His notoriety grew from his popularity, but as of June 2009, I wouldn't call him popular any more.
then he'd really be a legend to all.
He's definitely the biggest musical act in my lifetime. Thriller was the first album I ever bought, and I know that was true for many, many other people.
I would say popular, considering from what I've seen most of the messages on fbook and twitter say something along the lines of 'R.I.P MJ', and not 'that crazy singer is dead'
People recognize his impact on music and pop culture, and his timeless songs. I for one was deeply saddened that he died at a time when he was going through stress of people talking badly about him, trying to get his money, etc..
But now he's dead, everyone's gonna change their tune and start paying their respects. Kinda weird how death does that.
Not everyone liked the man but his music is different. Everyone's got at least one song that will make them get up and do a moonwalk.
Dude, hits home for us old guys that wore the jacket and throught the moon walk was the coolest thing they'd ever seen (for a secind at least).
of what was arguably the finest musical talent ever. Musically, he reached heights few others achieved; notably, the Beatles and Elton John, just to name two. If there was a poll for the greatest musician ever, he would get more than a few votes.
What happens to his 50% stake in the Beatles' song catalog? I think Sony owns the other half, and had an option of buying out a large portion of his share.
I'd be remiss, by the way, if I didn't mention that Captain EO movie he did that they used to show at Epcot. When you're seven years old and they got those 3-D glasses for you to watch the movie, on the list of coolest shit ever, that's more or less the pinnacle.
she was super hot. warped me feeble mind, it did
I must confess. I have never been a fan.
Saying that, I withhold judgement. That is not for me to decide. I can only pray (and I will) that he is able to rest in peace. God Bless your soul Michael Jackson.
I visited Neverland Ranch when I was eight. I left a man...
Way to start your MGoPoints career.
alright i'm too young to have ever heard his music, but i find it hard to feel any sympathy for a pedophile
He was definitely an interesting dude but he was also found not guilty twice. Your free to assume anything you wish.
He paid a $22 million settlement to a kid that he molested.
Maybe his death had something to do with the restricted air flow thru his, or what was formally known as his nose? And when did he get that butt below his mouth. Check out CNN's headline photo.
Yaaaaa I know I'm going straight to hell.....
Fifth grade, in music class and playing "I'll Be There" on keyboard. Did not really know what salvation was. New assistant principal, a black man in a mostly white suburban school, was visibily moved by us white kids playing this. We were too young to get it. We just liked the song. Michael was our age.
Prince? I thought he was the King of Pop.
He was my favorite artist back in the '80's. Then he raped kids, so, yeah, that made it hard to like him anymore.
So, does this mean I can get The Beatles on ITunes now?
I hope he finds the peace in death that eluded him in life.
MJ had everything most people could possibly dream of and was still miserable. His life was almost the stereotype of an old curse (that I don't remember the words to) along those lines.
I wouldn't put him with Elvis or the Beatles, because they changed music. MJ didn't really change much or create a genre; he just did it better than everyone else for about seven or eight years. His theatrical videos were groundbreaking, but Dennis DeYoung got pretty much abandoned by the rest of Styx for doing the same thing years earlier.
I saw Jackson as someone who saw pop moving toward what he had already been doing since he was a kid, decided that he could do it better than everyone out there, and then proved himself right.
Also, though I know this is probably somewhat like believing in the Easter Bunny, I still hold out hope that he actually was innocent of the molestation charges.
Thankfully, it is a moot point now.
then I'm the man with the message for you, Tater. MJ most certainly did change music. He was everything to the pop genre that Elvis was to rock. Granted, neither man invented his genre (Elvis, arguably - but for every song he performed, there were about 10 black dudes playing the exact same kind of music but with far less publicity), but both reinvented the way their genre was performed thereafter.
That certainly computes to changing music. What was pop music before Michael Jackson? How would we define the genre today if he never existed? He blended James Brown's soul and sexual stage persona with the flash and pop pizazz of the mainstream. He took us out of disco. He opened up the higher echelon of mainstream pop success to non-white artists. MJ is easily the most imitated performer of the last 25 years. That alone speaks to how he changed the music culture.
I guess at 27, I'm of the age of people who truly grew up with Michael Jackson as the sole face of pop music. He literally WAS pop music for those born in '82. His performance talent was not of this earth; he was 'the moonwalker.' "Bad" was the first album I asked for by name from my parents, and I played it obsessively on a Teddy Ruxpin.
I was 6. Imagine Teddy Ruxpin belting out "Dirty Diana" and tell me again Michael Jackson didn't change music.
The King is dead. RIP.
It's funny, I'm pushing 25 but I'm of the "Crazy white guy from the Free Willy song" generation. I was slightly aware of him very early on, but by the time I took note of anything he was already done.
Good post. I agree except that I think MJ was actually bigger than Elvis - just not physically. MJ was truly worldwide.
I'm 27 as well and hearing people say they were too young to remember or appreciate MJ as an icon is a strange realization that I'm starting to get old.
Defly worded NY,to the point. After the release of Bad...pop music was changed forever.
The King will be miss...
Yes, tons of jokes have been made about him but let's remember what he was famous and loved for - entertainment. The man could sing and dance no one can deny his everlasting influence he had on pop culture.
RIP Michael Jackson
RIP Farrah Fawcett and Ed McMahon as well.
I'm wearing only one glove while cycling tomorrow in memorium.
I was 8 when my parents got Dangerous for me. I was hooked, with time I went back into the master piece that is Thriller and was hooked for years. For my senior pep rally me and a group of high school friends danced Billie Jean to a crowd of 300 people, everyone that saw still remembers it. Michael Jackson is an American icon and even us youngins will miss him. Its a shame people will focus more on opportunistic stories from people wanting to cash in on his quirks.
Having been a DJ during Michael's hey day this hits hard. I'll never forget watching fools trying to moonwalk or the constant request for anything from Michael. The Thriller video still has to be the greatest music video ever and MTV (for the youngins that's all MTV use to play)use to play it once an hour when it first came which is pretty incredible considering how long the video was. His music was special and he was a truly innovative dancer.
I wonder how many of his later problems in life stem from the fact that he never had a childhood. I think I'll have to break out some vinyl tonight to "Remember the Times".
I definitely think his unhappy childhood was a factor later on. His father physically abused him and even ridiculed his appearance (particularly his nose).
He was world famous from the time he was five years old.
Jackson 5 rocked. Off The Wall to Thriller to Bad were cultural landmarks for a 10 year period when I grew up. I'll never forget a bunch of us staying up until midnight to watch the World Premier video of Thriller. I was in the fifth or sixth grade (insert 'right in his age wheelhouse' joke here).
He had Eddie Van Halen and Slash collaborate with him. Think about that: He had arguably the two signature guitarists of that era do session work and perform with him. That's how big he was.....can you imagine Slash and Eddie taking a back seat to anyone, but they did because they were lifelong fans, like a lot of us.
Make no mistake: This is the death of legend.
Moreso, consider the tandem death of Farrah Fawcett....for folks my age (late 30s to early 40s), we lost the original pin up model and the unquestioned top pop star of youths on the same day.
Clock is ticking on us boys and girls, your life is measured by the influence you have had on others....get on task, we're not getting any younger.
Like a retard, I had John Brodie, Gene Washington and Bob Griese (I was a 49er fan).
For good or bad, Michael Jackson had an enormous influence. His videos and dance steps were very bit as revolutionary as what Elvis did.
Great post and perspective, JM.
Clock is ticking on us boys and girls, your life is measured by the influence you have had on others.
This is almost a direct quote from Bo upon his retirement. Something like don't judge your life on how famous you are or how much money you make, but how much you of an impact you had on other people's lives.
One of the best speeches Bo ever made.
I wonder how many 12 year old boys were in his will?
Parents of young and ill boys can finally sleep easy.
It is an amazing country in which you can be born a poor black boy and later die a rich white woman.
Lost their most famous member...
I'm glad that people are so abhorred by (alleged) pedophilia that they can ignore anything else.
I am glad that people can look past a few great (alleged)songs and videos and see the pedophilia for what it is.
A lot of people are insisting on the news that Michael Jackson didn't dye his skin to look more like a white person, but rather his skin changed because of a skin condition.
If that is true. Then how do you explain Michael's hair getting straigtened out to look less curly than it was in his younger days and more like a white person's. And how do you explain the plastic surgery on his nose that makes his nose look more thin (white or more like dracula's).
Um....he was diagnosed with that skin condition way back in like 1986. It's common knowledge. How do you figure he went from a regular black kid to a light-skinned black guy to basically a white guy? What, has he been ever so slightly, gradually increasing the amount of dye?
He used to use makeup to cover the blotchiness. I dunno if he needed it by now, but the skin condition has definitely been causing the change.
Sure, he says that he was diagnosed with a skin condition when he was 27. It might be true that he wasn't trying to make himself look white and the diagnosis wasn't a cover up.
However, the skin condition, doesn't cause his hair to go from curly to straight (more white).
The skin condition also doesn't cause him to get plastic surgery to make his nose thinner (more white). His excuse to the plastic surgery when he was asked if he did it to make his nose look more white was that it was to make him hit the high notes, which is a BS response and any doctor would tell him that was nonsense.
On a personal level, people questioning the skin disease thing piss me off because I actually happen to know someone with the same condition. It's not very cool to have if you don't have the obscene resources Jackson had at his disposal to mask it effectively.
I'm not saying this as a sob story or anything for Jackson, just pointing out that the condition is real and that real people do have it.
There was simply much too big a reaction to this. Michael Jackson is a child molester. Regardless of how much good music he produced (which he hasn't exactly been putting out recently), this is unforgivable. Sorry, but I don't think that mourning a pedophile is a very good use of time or emotion.
Agreed. I'm not going to hold anything against his music, but I'm not going to miss a noted pedophile that did weird shit like holding a baby over a ledge.