I just saw that the Pats traded Cassell and Vrabel for the Chiefs 2nd round pick. For you NFL experts, why didn't the lions make an offer? It seems like it would resolve the issue at QB. Cassell is proven, yet young. I thought the lions could have thrown in a 2nd round or even their late 1st round pick. who knows
Rumor has it they're in love with Stafford.
scott mitchell!!! matt cassell is not a proven QB. sure he guided the pats to 11 wins, but joey harrington could have done that with the amount of talent that team has.
remember everyone thought that mitchell was going to be the lions saviour and what happened??? he had one good year, the lions make the playoffs and then get hammered by the eagles. the same thing is going to happen with cassell. KC has no one else on that team except for larry johnson.
Who says the Lions didn't make an offer?
that's a good point, but it seems like lions have more to offer than KC.
a 3-way deal that woulda sent cassel to the broncos and cutler to detroit.
that would be a deal killer right there.
I would have gone postal had they done this. Dumbest trade idea ever.
Get ready to go postal because Cutler now wants out of Denver.
+1 for spelling "Cassel" correctly
that'll be the indication that the new regime is as clueless as the old.
Yeah, because drafting a QB with the first pick never works. Just look at the Colts.
It's kind of hard to tell which one is the right QB. A lot of people liked Ryan Leaf the year when Manning was drafted, and do I need to complete this sentence?
Or look at 1999. Tim Couch drafted #1, Donovan McNabb #2, and Akili Smith #3. One guy who wasn't quite good enough to make it in the NFL, one superb player, and one complete bust.
Doesn't mean the Lions couldn't take the McNabb equivalent in the draft (if there is one). I personally would bet on the next Tim Couch (good enough to warrant a few years on the team, not good enough to be a quality NFL starter).
To be fair, the Lions have drafted busts at every position...
I'm guessing every NFL team has drafted a bust at every position.
That statement should be amended to, "The Lions have drafted busts with every pick in the last 15 years, except Calvin Johnson."
Roy Williams was a bust?
Also, after further thought, I should amend my argument to state that:
1. QB's are a higher risk draft choice than many other positions
2. Any QB they draft is going to get killed behind that line
I don't want to see them draft a QB until they've taken some positive steps towards improving the offensive line.
I was obviously exaggerating a bit. But since Williams isn't with the team anymore, you could probably make an argument that he wasn't that great, either.
Anyway, the Colts SUCKED when they drafted Manning. All the way around. All I'm saying is that if you think you have a franchise player in your sights, that's not something you should pass up. If they think Stafford (or Sanchez or Jason Smith or Aaron Curry or whoever) can be the face of their franchise for a decade or so, then that's who they should pick, regardless of position. You shouldn't use the first pick in the draft to fill holes - you should use it to get a star.
Star potential is so damn hard to evaluate, though. Trading down would be the sensible thing to do (in the obviously valuable opinion of a man who once wanted the Lions to draft Jake Plummer), but I bet they'll be unable to do it.
draft a player who will sign on the dotted line before draft day.
My guess is they will take Aaron curry first overall and then take an Olineman with their later first rounder.
that'll be the sign that Schwartz and Mayhew might have their shit together.
And as a longtime Broncos fan myself, I would have crapped pants if they'd traded Cutler for Cassell.
I think so. The stock of all the OTs seems to have tanked a bit. QB wise, waiting until next year with Bradford and McCoy will be a safer bet IMO. I hate all the talk about Stafford's potential. All that means is you're supposed to be good but you suck for some reason.
that Stafford has Tom Condon for his agent. There is no way sebaceous cyst on a dog's ass Condon will allow any client to sign before draft day.
Thankfully, Condon may save Mayhew from himself.
It wasn't necessarily supposed to be a three way deal. I don't think the Pats wanted to give Cassel to Josh Mcdaniels. If the Pats found that out I could imagine why the lions weren't let in on the deal.
Just looking at the start of free agency, what they have been doing in terms of smoke signals with the draft, and the deals they've already made, I think the new regime is starting off fairly well. I'm still not going to be convinced but its better than nothing, and much better than we've seen in awhile.
I have to imagine too that with all of the talk about trading for a QB, and the Lions actually trying to be crafty and trying to pull a deal for a good QB, that they're not all that interested in Matt Stafford. Thank God, I just hope it holds up.