so much for that
OT: General Motors
March 30th, 2009 at 2:15 PM | 
"I do know this: I have a
"I do know this: I have a
March 30th, 2009 at 2:20 PM |
What is the difference
What is the difference
What is the difference between my attitude and the one that passes off Big 3 cars as crap no matter what? What's the difference between that and the one that assumes a Nissan must be top-notch quality just because it's Japanese?
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March 30th, 2009 at 3:44 PM |
The problem is GM shared your
The problem is GM shared your
The problem is GM shared your attitude and the Japanese companies didn't share the opposing viewpoint. Toyota/Honda/Nissan aren't sitting still assuming the consumer will always think the Big 3 cars are shit. GM/Ford/Chrysler did sit still and assume no one would buy the J3 cars like they are now.
So, essentially, there is no difference between the attitudes at all, just that the Domestic3 shared your attitude, and the Foreign3 did NOT share the opposing viewpoint.
March 30th, 2009 at 2:24 PM |
I'll concede your point about
I'll concede your point about
I'll concede your point about who you listen to.
If you think the problem is public perception, than that is still the Big 3's fault. There is a reason car companies spend hundreds of millions on advertising. If Nissan, Subaru, and Mitsubishi are really getting by on Toyota and Honda's reputation without actually being better, then the Big 3 have done a lousy job marketing their product.
March 30th, 2009 at 4:01 PM |
i wonder how much anyone would care
i wonder how much anyone would care
if the companies you're talking about were, instead of GM et al, say General Electric? should GE get some bail out money? discuss.
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March 30th, 2009 at 4:05 PM |
Well the issue with the car
Well the issue with the car
Well the issue with the car companies is they employ thousands of people and are a major industry. General Electric also employs thousands of people and, while they don't comprise the entire industry they are a part of, are still a massive presence. So yes, I think they would have as much of a case as the car companies.
March 30th, 2009 at 4:11 PM |
Agreed, GE would have a
Agreed, GE would have a
Agreed, GE would have a pretty good case. I see no reason why the federal government shouldn't step in with loans for the country's biggest industries and companies when the banks won't pony up.
Keeping in mind that again, these are loans not grants. They always have been. This isn't free taxpayer money. The federal government came out ahead when it bailed out Chrysler 30 years ago with loans, as Chrysler paid back with interest.
"We've beaten Michigan the last four years. So where's the threat?"
- Mark Dantonio
Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<
March 30th, 2009 at 4:07 PM |
yeah
yeah
i figured axing brands would be an easy way to lose loyal brand buyers (plymouth, say) to another non-Chrysler brand like ford.
Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
March 30th, 2009 at 4:16 PM |
I think they would have as much of a case as the car companies."
I think they would have as much of a case as the car companies."
but, would people in MI care? the thing that grinds my gears is how no one in MI can fathom the idea that people outside the state don't care if Chrysler gets ZIP from the gov't. sure, people are dependent on 'local industry X.' but think big picture... no one in silicon valley cares about the auto industry and no one in the D cares about the computer industry. so, unless you'd be willing to shovel 100B to GE or any other non-MI based company.... shut you're pie holes.*
*this is a non-specific, very generally general comment at the end. not directed to any individual's alleged opinion.
Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
"I do know this: I have a tough time believing that a car company that had to rebrand in order to shed a reputation for building rust shitboxes has now surpassed BMW."
This attitude is what led GM to believe that no one would ever buy those cheap Japanese cars. Glad to see you trust your intuition instead of facts.