post FAMILIAR but written by different POSTER
this may be of some local interest
post FAMILIAR but written by different POSTER
....denigrate the posters, threaten students with vehicular homicide, then ask a "serious" question about recruiting Seantrel Henderson. I may just print this one out.
+30 my friend.
And since you're asking for it....."spelling bee's" don't possess anything in your sentence, so the apostrophe is unnecessary there.
You go to Michigan, you can spell.
Telling kids where players from your team were drafted isn't tacky. All these kids, and mainly the top ranked, want to know that they will be prepared to make it to the next level. If you've never sent anyone to the pro's, how else will you show them?
I don't think it will help as much in this case, because there will be plenty of people reminding Seantrel that Rich Rodriguez wasn't here when that happened. In general though, yes it's a good idea.
This is one of many reasons why I follow Tom's every word (yeah sounds creepy but admit it you have a man crush on him too.)
This massive rant and Tom ends up simply ignoring the stupidity of the majority of the OP and answering the question.
+1 sir, +1.
(not that you need my approval.)
all seriousness aside, I think it is fantastic that you slipped a little Michigan football related bit at the very end of your piece. People do need to learn how to cross the street, though.
well, i figured that the people who post topics want as many people to read them as possible, so I was just killing 2 birds with 1 stone so somebodies post didn't have to slide off the top 10
Why? For the record I don't go to UM and spelling is helpful to understanding a topic, if it isn't blatantly off we don't care.
As for assaults on the "whiny rich kids"... frankly don't insult our character, besides most of our comments are sarcastically intended.
I like farts
Jake Long did not play for Rich Rod. He played under Lloyd Carr in a pro style offense. These recruits know that are smart enough to realize that. Rich Rod will have to convince the kid that his offensive system can still prepare an elite O lineman for the NFL.
it's called the michigan difference, err, i mean the michigan arrogance. we are an arrogant bunch and that is likely to never change. we have that b/c we're better than you (please pick up on that).
the Michigan différance
Most people here didn't or don't go to Michigan. You also sound bitter that you just weren't smart enough to get into Michigan.
not at all, it was my own fault i couldn't get in. So i figured that going to eastern and living in ann arbor is the next best thing. but after living here for a while, i'm glad I don't go here. you know, arrogance isn't a virtue. i've lived in a few college towns, while this is on par with gainesville, FL for stuff to do, the majority of the people suck way worse here.
You're glad that you don't go to UM.
You think the students that go here are over-privileged, whiny rich kids who don't know jack shit about the real world.
The majority of people suck way worse than, say, Gainesville.
Yet you love UM? What is that, you love the buildings, but hate the people?
...for the longest time I tolerated people whining about posts not having the right title so they had to take 5 seconds to click on it and realize they didn't want to read it. Were so sorry we inconvenienced you...I just witnessed a forum where people were complaining about the spelling. This blew my mind. Get a life people.
Let me get this, you are pissed that you had to witness a forum of those complaining about spelling, and you "tolerate" those who "whine" about being inconvenienced by poor topic titles? Why don't you just ignore the spelling/grammar posts like we are supposed to ignore posts with bad topic titles?
You clearly have a lot of issues with both the University, its student body and alumni, and many people posting on this blog. It sounds like this blog makes you absolutely miserable. Why are you here, then?
for the gang bang?
for making me laugh and feel sorry for someone at the same time.
You're like watching It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia.
But just the bad parts.
Ps. Check out my new signature line.
agh never mind I'm not funny
this post is fucking epic. the seething bitterness over not being a M student, the misdirected rage at others because he doesn't know how to spell, the threats to hit people with a car that will never be followed up on, the insinuation people who have a better life than you must not know what "real" life, urging others to "Get a life" when you are writing a psychotic manifesto about people with the audacity to use proper grammar - beautiful. And then topped off with a completely unrelated, bizarre, aside asking about sentreal henderson and jake long. I give it 5 stars.
It's douchebags, not douche bags.
-10 points for not using my new favorite pejorative...'douchenozzles' would have been more catchy (or is it 'douche nozzles'?)
There are too many psychological issues combined into one bitter mass.
Also, the OP should realize that plenty of us aren't current M students, but alums that still happily qualify for his misdirected rage.
The tone of your post sounds like something this guy would say.
I have come to realize that the students that go here are over-privileged, whiny rich kids who don't know jack shit about the real world.
You're totally ignoring the large contingent of smart Asians that don't know jack shit about the real world.
I have come to realize that the students that go [to the University of Michigan] are over-privileged, whiny rich kids who don't know jack shit about the real world.
This is a fair characterization of plenty of the students at UM. Myself included (although in the interest of full disclosure, I'm an alum, not a current student). That's why we're so frickin' awesome.
Our alumni are rich because we went to Michigan.
"Michigan" should be capitalized.
I think you'll fit in much better here.
I wish I had a rebuttal, but I couldn't understand your arguments due to poor spelling and/or grammar. I'm sorry.
"I have come to realize that the students that go here are over-privileged, whiny rich kids who don't know jack shit about the real world."
Its true, I don't know jack shit about the real world. I haven't really followed that show since the Vegas season. How can you top that hot tub threesome?
In all seriousness, this board prides itself on being different from the common internet sports forum. Proper grammar, spelling, and restraint regarding the USE OF CAPS LOCK all help to make this board less annoying to read than many others. That being said, it can get annoying when every post is scrutinized. You'll find that when posts are worthwhile, the benefit of the doubt is given. When a post is lacking in the worth department, poor writing only serves as verification of the poster's cloudy thought process (this is generally true in all communication in life).
This board is what it is because of the accountability present here. If you're looking for a place to air random grievances, repeat overplayed media themes, or just toss an amateur opinion into the maize and blue yonder this is not the place for you.
Fortunately, there are plenty of places where this is common.
Cripes, Swede. That first paragraph probably could stand to be made into two paragraphs. Go back to CMU ya scrub.
I knew I should have had my post peer reviewed.
I did not, do not, nor will I ever be a student at the University of Michigan. However, awful spelling and grammar annoy me. Writing somewhere above a third-grade level makes things a hell of a lot easier to read.
Kinda shoots holes in your OP, doesn't it?
I just graduated UM this spring, so I'm pretty close as far as current students go.
"I have come to realize that the students that go here are over-privileged, whiny rich kids who don't know jack shit about the real world."
Sure, let's talk real world. My mom's a recovering heroin addict that was clean for a dozen years, and just relapsed. I remember watching her snort from the tender age of six.
My freshman year at UM, she was operated on to remove a malignant tumor from her mouth, and underwent radiation treatments that have destroyed her ability to hear out of her right ear and the ability to produce saliva. She's fought cancer four times, and is now fighting a fifth time.
That same year (my freshman year), her boyfriend relapsed and died of a heroin overdose.
I grew up on Detroit's west side and have been poverty-stricken for most of my life. I saw my next door neighbour get stabbed 17 times on my front lawn. I was six.
Rich? Real world? I can probably teach a lecture on the real world at this point.
In closing, fuck you, and fuck the horse you rode in on. Piss off, prat. You don't know a damn thing about 99% of the people that have attended a fine University, and you couldn't be more wrong about a majority of us.
Sorry to hear all that. I can't even imagine. Congrats on graduating through it all.
i can only comment on the people I have had the privilege of meeting here, and those people are exactly what I said they are. Sorry you have had a hard life, but if you are as smart as the rest of the student population thinks they are, you should realize you are the minority at this school.
You should just stop talking now.
If you "can only comment on the people I have had the privilege of meeting" at U of M, then how about you do just that rather than make hyperbolic, sweeping comments about the whole student body/alumni base?
I'll give you an example of this in practice.
"At least one EMU student, based on his MGoBlog post, is a complete imbecile." That's far more accurate than saying, "OMG! EMU SUCKZ YOU GUYZ!"
i can only comment on the people I have had the privilege of meeting here, and those people are exactly what I said they are.
Didn't you comment on the whole UM student population in your original post? People probably wouldn't be upset if you said, "The 30 UM students I met were whiny rich kids."
Edit: guy above me beat me to it.
Stop sharing my brain, you privileged, whiny, rich alum, you...
Your Festivus celebrations must have been shitty.
But seriously, if the OP thinks that evan a small fraction of the UM students can "afford" to go there, he is deeply dillusional. I came from a middle class family in an industrial/manufacturing community, decimated by the decline of the auto industry. My parents made a decent living (teacher and salesman) and i never did without, but there was no way in hell they could afford to pay for tuition, room & board, etc. at Michigan. I did what 90% of my friends did (both from HS and that I met at UM) and took students loans, which I am still paying for, 8 years after graduating. The next time I hear about someone not being able to afford UM, I'm going to punch myself in the ear (probably not, but the thought will cross my mind). The reason you didn't go to UM is beacuse the university wouldn't let you, not by any choice of your own. Um students and alums may be arrogant, but we deserve to be.
Yes. The number of students at U of M who are on financial aid or loans VASTLY outnumbers the number of students whose parents are paying cash.
you deserve to be arrogant? nobody deserves to be arrogant.
double post - ignore
I am so sorry.
I have never seen the word "cancer" preceded by the word "cool."
I can't wait for football season or at least HTTV 2009.
post. post. script. not post. script. script. as that wouldn't make sense.
And if you are going to call MGoBlog posters "douche bags" please just keep it focused on Magnus and leave the rest of us out of it.
Don't you mean p.p.s? Or do they not teach the meaning of p.s. at other schools?
And I know I could have gotten into Ivy League schools if I had actually given a damn in high school. Its not all about smarts, effort and such counts for as much if not more. I know plenty of people who aren't that bright who got into Ivy League schools.
Totally true. Take a look at WolverSwede, most likely the smartest guy on this board. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he got a 38 or something ridiculous on his MCAT's. He could have gotten into an Ivy League school for undergrad, but he's a lazy fuck (no offense man, I'm just as lazy, only I'm not as smart).
That said, he's probably going to Harvard or the like for grad school, but my point remains.
That's almost the exact same boat I'm in though I doubt the Harvard for grad school part.
I wonder if there's a Real World University where I can go to classes to learn about it. The real world, that is. It sounds intriguing, this "real world".
I went to MSU. It was a blast.
I really don't care who went where. Some of the same posters who are assbags one post will have me laughing my ass off the next. Maybe lighten up a bit.
edit: double post.
edit: triple post. what the fuck?
It was three times the fun!
Yes, we can tell you went to MSU.
Michigan's business school is pretty comparable to Wharton. Perhaps you meant Penn, and not just Wharton, but Michigan's undergraduate program is pretty comparable to Penn's as well.
Also, welcome to the real world, where there are people more privileged than yourself. Enjoy.
P.S. MGoBlog, not MgoBlog
P.P.S. Properly used, postscripts are capitalized.
penn is known for wharton, thats why i put it. and U of M is comparable to penn like UF is comparable to michigan. close, but no
Saying that Penn is known for Wharton is like saying Michigan is known for its engineering school. Penn is known because it is Penn. Michigan is known because it is Michigan. True story.
Out of the four schools that you mention Harvard and MIT group together as do Penn and Michigan. Also a true story.
no, actually wharton is the #1 business school in the nation, penn isn't the #1 university in the nation. so yes, penn is known for wharton.
and as much as you arrogant students or ex-students want it to be true, U of M does not group with Penn.
I assume you're using US News & World Report rankings. Harvard has the #1 ranked business school this year, followed by Stanford. Wharton is #4.
It was convenient that your justification was the ranking of Penn's business school. Now we can agree that Penn is not known for Wharton.
Several years ago, Ross was ranked #1. I guess that year Michigan was known for its business school. Now Michigan is just known for being Michigan.
I'd just like to add: even if US News had Wharton ranked #1 (which it seems they don't), if you actually believed that Wharton was a better business school than Harvard, then you have no experience in the "real world".
Regardless of those annual rankings (which US News has to change every year or else they couldn't sell any magazines), an MBA from HBS is unparalleled in the US except for a possible argument from Stanford GSB.
Harvard - #1
MIT - #4
UPENN - #6
Michgan - #26
Look, I'ma Michigan alum, but White Pony is right here.
You're right. I haven't been keeping track of the rankings. For the decade of 88-97, Penn was: 19, 15, 20, 13, 13, 14, 16, 12, 11, 13. More recently Penn has trended between 4-8 which would put it in the top tier.
Is your name Nick? My name is Nick. High five!
...my friend, double it up.
....why I attended Indiana. I prefer my whiny out-of-touch douchebags to also be rednecks who dont care about spelling and presenting cogent thoughts.
That way, I look like the smartest guy in the room.
What? I am the smartest in the room?
Ha ha Michigan lozers!!!!!
i like that 99% of the responses to this blog just reiterate the point that the poster was trying to make. i work at the university; i deal with hundreds of students on a daily basis. every single day i wonder to myself how a vast majority of these people managed to get into college, much less a top tier school. i don't understand the "michigan arrogance". i can understand those affiliated with the university who have done great things having said arrogance, at least they are the ones making enough money to feel entitled. but outside of that, give me a fucking break. when my department isn't full of u-m alumni who clutch their useless degrees and glory days to their chests while making a measly peanut of a salary or when daddy and mommy stop calling my office to settle a problem their kid should be old enough to settle themselves, i'll start believing in the validity of "michigan arrogance".
You seem to be making the same idiotic mistake as the poster:
Newsflash, there are unjustifiably arrogant people EVERYWHERE YOU TURN. Like, say, somebody who spends all day looking at the kids he works with and the alumni he deals with and thinking that they don't hold a candle to him (sound familiar?).
The point is: are there plenty of unjustifiably arrogant people at Michigan? Sure. Is that, in any way, different than any other good school out there? Not really. Are there thousands upon thousand well adjusted kids who went to or currently go to school at Michigan? Yes. So penning a hateful screed about "Michigan Students" or "Michigan Alumni" is reductive and useless. We're all different people, and painting with as broad a brush as that is for stupid people that can't look past generalities.
If you hate the people you work for and with, I pity you, but don't lay your bitterness on us.
the funny thing is, unless you have lived in different college towns or gone to multiple colleges, shut the fuck up. I have lived and worked in Mt. Pleasant and Gainesville, FL and the students are not as arrogant as the ones found here, just because you go here does not mean you are worth a fuck, and you haven't done anything important yet. the problem is the students here act like they have cured cancer and expect to be treated accordingly. Here is an example: how many places do you know that need a sign that says "we will be willing to serve you as soon as you get off your cell phone" like Kilwins does. I have traveled all over and I have never been to a town that needs a sign like that. I work downtown on state street, and i deal with students everyday who give me dirty looks when I ask them what kind of sandwich they have when they come up to pay when they're on the phone. Deal with it you fucking pieces of shit, there are way too many arrogant assholes in this town and at this university.
that you love the university in your original post...wtf...it's your own damn fault that you have to deal with it. Seriously, fucking ignore them if you don't like it. It's not that fucking hard.
the funny thing is, you're pretty much telling me to move instead of fixing the problem, people who act arrogant.
you know why? because no matter where you move, you'll meet people who are arrogant for no reason. I go to Central...there are people there who are arrogant idiots (and I mean, seriously? It's Central...I'm only there because the journalism program is good). I'm saying, just tune them out. It's like Mlive. When I was in high school, I couldn't stop going there and responding to the idiots to try to "change" them. It won't work. Arrogance and idiocy are every place you go. Deal with it, or ignore it. Complaining about it isn't going to change it.
I'd say 90% of the world is stupid...maybe 90.09%.
The sign at Kilwin's? That's your example? Really?
I live in Birmingham MI, and they have an awesome burger place there called Hunter House, on Woodward Ave. It sells sliders for like two bucks. Every person that works there did not go to college. They have the exact same sign.
This happens all over the place. Big cities, small cities, college towns, etc. Believe me. I've lived in four different cities in the last three years, and I deal with young people on a daily basis.
I have also seen that sign in Subway. In several states.
I went to UM for undergrad and Purdue for grad school, and what you refer to as Michigan arrogance and "doucheness" (like ignoring traffic and self-absorbed students in local businesses) was just as prevelant in West Lafayette as it is in Ann Arbor. That is what 18-25 year olds do when they can get away with it. If you don't like driving in a college town, don't. Park on the outskirts, take a free bus in, and walk wherever ou're going.
...and you haven't done anything important yet....
Um, wrong. We worked hard enough in high school or were just naturally intelligent enough to gain admittance to the University of Michigan. That in and of itself is important.
in USC's commons has a similar sign. I can't remember if it is Carl's Jr. or The Rice Bowl. Also the Grove cafe at UCSD has a signs that says almost the exact same thing. Several coffee carts at U of Washington say, "No shoes, No Shirt, Cell Phone attached to your head, NO SERVICE."
Those three campuses are full of arrogant dicks too though.
Most of the responses here were sarcastic commentary. Not one post was outraged or went into hyperdrive trying to call white pony names. Be better than that.
I don't really know what office you work in, and I'm a Michigan fan who didn't attend U-M, but a few things:
1. I taught at another, less academically prestigious Big 10 school as a grad student, and I saw plenty of the same 'arrogance' and rude behavior you mention. I mean, I saw kids so naive? lazy? that they would walk into the main office in a six-story building and ask 'What room is the Italian class in?'
2. I attended as an undergrad a chichi private school on the East Coast, and my experience there (as well as with other private school students; it's a small world) tells me that at any school in the world, there will be people there who make you wonder how they got into college, or where they got the idea that college was even for them. Some of them have Daddy's money to help them go places in life, I guess. This is not uniquely Michigan, or even close to it.
3. "peanut of a salary" and "useless degree": Look, I don't know what field you work in, I really don't. But even for the best and brightest, times are really tough. A lot of graduates I know - from good programs, mind you - are struggling just to find a job that pays $30,000. I have applied for countless positions probably just like yours, and have heard nothing in response. Just consider yourself lucky to have a comfortable position, and don't mock others for not making enough. (I mean, if they're really whiny, mock away; it's how we all survive the day.)
Not a bad post, it just proves that the majority of posters on this blog are ass clowns.
Regular ass-clowns? Or no talent ass-clowns? Because personally I prefer my ass-clowns talent free.
There are people who add to discussions that don't spell well (gsimmons, for example). I could be wrong, but it seems that the people who get the most shit for their spelling are the ones who are poor spellers AND poor thinkers.
Spelling and grammar are important. We are given a "free" education in this country through the 12th grade. For thirteen years, each of us is ranted and raved at by elementary school teachers and English teachers. Then people get on the internet, communicate poorly, and then get pissed off that others think they're stupid.
People should write properly OR add some substance. If they can't do either, they shouldn't be using language on the internet.
yeah, because all "free" educations are equal, huh.
I'm sorry. Did you go to a school where they don't teach spelling? I've never heard of one of those.
Greenville with McFarlin.
This isn't really in response to your post but it had to be said. In 7th grade, I won the middle school spelling bee. And our middle school went up to 8th grade.
EAT. THAT. SHIT.
That ain't nothin'.
I won the South American Spelling Bee in second grade.
I don't know man...my competition may have been better than yours.
I beat Wilmer Valderrama.
Were you spelling in English or Spanish? Or maybe Portuguese? This makes a huge difference.
If you beat a bunch of native Spanish speaking in an English spelling bee, not too impressive. If you beat anyone in a spelling bee that was in their native tongue and not yours, I cannot complete with that.
Asparagus. There's no 'I' in "team" or "asparagus." But somehow, with a word I friggin' knew, against the girl who thought it was funny to kick guys in the crotch, I tripped up on A-S-P-A-R-A-G-U-S.
on driving: It's about the customers. There is no I in IPS.
sixth grade. WHAT. NOW?
hi, you must be one of those people who don't know what the real world is like.
I'm just an English teacher. I have no clue what they teach in skools.
It boggles my mind that you, a college kid, are trying to tell grown adults who have been in the "real world" for years what the "real world" is like. Why, because you live in Ypsi?
agreeing like this. People will talk.
But what I have found is that there are very few who compartmentalize their intellect. The quality of the writing (spelling, grammar and formatting) is usually mirrored by the quality of their content. This thread is a prime example.
There are few exceptions, and you note GSimmons as one.
I have compartmentalized my intellect.
I'm a genius at Clue. Other than that...
and by not quite right, I mean not at all.
Regarding your reference to Clue, I don't think I have one today.
at Scorekeepers over dangling participles and the proper use of adjectives and quotation marks. I saw one freakishly huge guy slamming some poor skinny English major's head onto the floor repeatedly while screaming "eat my fucking gerund now, bitch!" Took five bouncers and a couple of cops to get him off.
You need to break that shit up into multiple paragraphs. Right now it's impenetrable.
I hate all those douche nozzle Eastern grads who dont have the grades or resume to get into UM, then bitch about it years later on a blog.
Get a life.....but first, yes, I will take fries with that.
is better than Eastern.
It's pretty hard to pick just one, but what the hell: the part where he chastises Michigan students for not having the brains to get into MIT and then we find out Michigan sent him a thin DING! envelope. It's like something you would find on a sitcom.
"I may be a complete idiot, but you're not as smart as you think."
yep, but the difference between you and me is i don't give people shit about their spelling when they are writing on sports blogs.
can't you understand that when a poster spells and writes extremely poorly, it makes their message nearly impossible to read? Why does the desire to do something "correctly" make somebody a douchebag?
Link me to a post where I say anything about spelling or grammar.
And really, I can't think of a more irrelevant response than what you just gave me here. All I'm saying is that it's hilarious that you would give someone shit for not getting into a better school when they are attending a school that you tried and failed to get into. And now you are throwing stones from a vastly inferior school down the street.
The rage at people crossing the streets you wish you could walk (likely in full Michigan gear) is really just icing on the cake.
If I actually didn't know how to spell something, I'd rather have someone correct me on a sports blog so I could use it correctly in a professional situation, rather than have my boss call me out for it. YMMV.
I hope this was directed towards me. I am MichiganStudent. And yes I do think I am better than you. Actually, I know I am better than you.
I know there are people much smarter than me that go to more prestigious schools, but you go to Eastern. So, multiply the number of people that are smarter than me by 20 and thats how many people are smarter than you. Good job!
Oh, and go fuck yourself. If you would like to fight I'd accept your challenge. Set a time and date and I promise you I will be there to kick your ass for the entire "MGOBLOG" community. Shall we?
You need to read the vanhoopscoach thread. You and him must be buddies.
Can we not make physical threats over the internet? This isn't West Virginia.
Thanks. Grow up.
Magnus chill out. I just think this guy is a complete douche bag. I could really care less what he has to say. I actually could care less what you have to say as well regarding my behavior, but I like your posts on other topics.
Anyways, I was hoping for a "Ya lets get him" type of reaction. Guess not...
Challenging an internet douchebag to a fight is somewhat douchebaggy in itself. Rise above the fray.
Save your mob mentality for other morons such as yourself. I think you are a complete douche bag. Come beat me up if you don't like it.
Yeah Magnus, chill out. I don't even like your posts. The only reason I even still talk to you is because you beat a bunch of Brazilian kids in a spelling contest and I think that's admirable. So chill out, and let this guy e-fight whoever he wants.
I'm totally kidding. "If I ever met you in real life I'd beat your face in" is about as cool as herpes.
you are the kind of piece of shit that the rest of the world hates. Oh, and I'm pretty sure I'd kick your ass, but you over privileged rich kids have a propensity to sue instead of taking your licks.
That. Just. Happened.
There's been an uptick in the number of internet tough guys, as of late. Must be spring in the air.
I'll fuck you up, you yellow-celled, cartoon fatass.
I like Darren, he is my friend! I like you AND him. He likes me and I like him!! He likes you, I HOOOOPE! I like his autograph!!! It is a nice picture!!!!! HE IS NIIIIICCEE!!!
serious? like...for real?
Bullshit. I would take my licks THEN sue. But not because I'm rich or over-privileged. It's because I need the money.
Thanks WolvinLA...the "i need the money" line was great. +10
Don't feed the trolls.
If Chuck Norris doesn't accept apologies, then neither do I.
I will seriously beat you up in real life.
I ain't scared of anyone, least of all you.
Unless you use the word "fuck" in your threat.
People who cuss are always tougher than those who don't. I don't cuss, thus I have a pretty low toughness ceiling.
But who am I to talk?
Play him off, piano cat!
If I was a better speller in grade school I would not have mistakenly signed up for the sewing bee. I tell ya, those Amish kids punked my ass Ol' skool.
Also, please post in English next time, poncho. Normally, I'd feel bad about sounding like such a xenophobe, but I think in this case, it's just fighting fire with fire.
Also, is the username a reference to the Deftones album or to uh, nose candy?
He's not rich nor over-privileged enough for nose candy.
That Deftones album kicks. When I was a student at Mich, we played that CD in my friend's room one time and we suddenly went from an "I'm in a band" dorks' pedantic modern-rock-ripping session to a Wrestlemania-Bedspring-popping-TV-going-through-the-window melee.
So that's two things we have in common, WP. We like Michigan football, and you apparently like the Deftones.
Then again, I don't really fit in well with most people at a Deftones concert. I came to them via Far. I got to Thursday the same way. I don't really fit in well with most people at a Thursday concert either. I miss Far, even if all that's left is a huggy, well-meaning skinny kid who plays beside an R2D2 unit.
You know why? Because I'm an intellectual snob. My non-sports-related websites include Woot and xkcd.
I don't really ever give people direct crap about spelling/grammar unless it's someone I know would normally not make that mistake (e.g. Brian). On the other hand, Brian's knowledge of English far outclasses mine, so if I ever did start pick-nicking nicks, I'd be inviting the same on myself.
Still, I very much appreciate good grammar, for the same reason that I appreciate strong speaking skills in conversation. Communication is about getting ideas across. We agree on certain rules to make it easier to communicate.
One thing that does tend to bug me, though, is when people refer to a dialectic as a "rant." A rant implies anger, and a lack of reason. If you admit you're ranting, then you've basically said "what I'm writing should in no way be construed as a valid opinion."
But we're straying from the topic. And the topic is White Pony, and Deftones concerts, and Thursday concerts, and how most of the people there are mostly interested in finding a pit in which to mosh.
I've moshed. In a bedroom on Williams even.
But I'll never get to be one just one of the dudes. I liked going to school. I was good at it. Almost a decade removed from freshman year, I'm even better at it now.
This is my corner of the Internet. There's a whole Thursday concert out there for you to mosh in, where, as you pointed out, there is nobody to correct you for grammar, or improper use of a comma, or the inherent inability of a person typing an anger-fueled diatribe to break up that stream-of-consciousness with a new paragraph. A new paragraph is a pause, a moment to collect the information of the previous stanza, and then begin on the next coherent thought. That's of little use to a boiling rage, to what would properly be referred to as a "rant."
So, like I said, I'm not one to mutter about bad English. But I like the people who do. A lot. They're my kind of nerds. They're the same kind of people who would stay up 'till 5 a.m. in a crappy house on East William, muttering about how teenieboyz who paint their fingernails black and play a bar-chord 1,4,5 progression to an aggravatingly simplistic 4/4, call themselves "Benj," and try to convince people they're "punk" should be removed from the universe.
So rather than pass stereotypes about my kind of people, why not just let us have this corner of the great big World Wide Web. Let us have our university, which, as you point out, isn't the best in the country, but is still mighty up there.
We've got our biases against EMU. All druggies. Dirty Meijer. So unfair they got Sidetrack. But I've never really met a U-M student with the kind of anger toward the stereotype that you seem to have. I always thought we were so close to each other the communities just overlapped, meshed, and were both the better for it.
So maybe I'm wrong about having our own corner of the Internet. Maybe we do need the Eastern rats to keep the Michigan brats grounded. But there's a better way to do it than direct insult. Have a little respect for the institution up Washtenaw, and the high standards that have kept it such a great place. We're a little different, sure, but fuck, man, when we're ripe, we all bleed out of control.
Nice post. really, what i have to say isn't to you but because of the points you brought up. This is a great university, not the best in the nation, but exceptional compared to others in michigan. Just because you all go to a better college than all the other students who stay in state doesn't mean you are better as individuals. I haven't just met 20 people who i'm basing my opinion on, i deal with thousands of students a week for 20 seconds at a time and yet sadly that is long enough to form my opinion.
Many of you will not succeed in life, while many people who don't graduate from college will become successful. If this turns out to be one of you who read this, will you still consider yourselves better than others? Lets see if those of you who don't succeed act arrogant later in life. Maybe you will all realize that there is no place in life to act better than somebody else because there will always be somebody better than you. There is no reason to knock on anybodies grammar or spelling because there will always be somebody who has a better grasp of the english language than you. Plus, I've never read a post that I wasn't able to understand because of the grammar, the people who ragged on the post were just looking for a reason to show off their so called superiority.
For the record, I was arrogant WAAAAAAAY before I got accepted to Michigan.
this says it all - "i deal with thousands of students a week for 20 seconds at a time and yet sadly that is long enough to form my opinion."
If you think repeated 20 second interactions are long enough to form an opinion to call out the student body of the university, so be it. But please spare us the "real world" sanctimonious nonsense from earlier. Because in the real world, only a complete asshole makes such broad judgments based on such limited interaction and experience.
well, i guess we're all assholes then, you because you're an arrogant piece of shit who is too jaded after going to U of M to realize it, and me because i base my opinions on several thousand experiences that have been the same.
You're an asshole and therefore we're all assholes? Is this some sort of "white_pony_rocks is 'Everyman'"
allegory that I'm not understanding?
Why am I an arrogant piece of shit? Because I suggested that labeling the whole student body assholes based on your limited interactions is... wrong?
again, how are thousands of experiences considered limited interactions? The fact they are short interactions makes it even worse that arrogance was shown, especially to someone who is treating the students courteously and giving them their food.
HOW ARE THEY ARROGANT in these 20 second interactions? I'm not saying they aren't, but tell me, please.
This, honestly, sounds like you're extremely bitter because these kids got to go to a school you wanted to but couldn't. Now, you're working a job you don't particularly like, SERVING these kids who get to do what you once wished you could. And you hate them for it.
Just to help you out, I think you meant "anybody's" rather than "anybodies." I say this because your sentence seemed to beg for a possessive adjective to precede the noun "grammar," yet it lacked one. And by "it lacked one," I mean that you sentence lacked a possessive adjective. But by that I also mean that your sentence lacked grammar.
That is all.
I think he meant "antibodies." He was discussing the immune system, but I could be wrong.
I mean that you sentence lacked a possessive adjective.
Sorry, I just wanted to reply before you had a chance to edit it. :]
"There is no reason to knock on anybodies grammar or spelling because there will always be somebody who has a better grasp of the english language than you."
You consider anyone that chooses to correct someone to be "arrogant," and you consider it pointless to ever point out someone's errors. I imagine you also fly into a defensive rage when someone, in fact, corrects you.
Believe it or not, but there are some places (even in the real world) where people have enough self-confidence to take criticism, they aren't so threatened/defensive/embarrassed as to suggest we should be content with an implied race to the bottom, and hell, they even appreciate when others expect higher standards (whether it be something as insanely trivial as grammar on a message board, or something more important... like, "real world" jobs).
Whatever you go on to do (assuming you don't anticipate to hold your current job forever), I'd suggest that you'd be a lot better off if you dropped the bitter chip on your shoulder towards any person who has the audacity to point out a mistake.
What?!?! Constructive criticism and feedback? That never happens in the "real world." Trust me, if you ever go into management consulting and screw up the analysis, your manager will always let it slide. Or if you're in I-Banking and spell something wrong in the pitch deck, that's cool. No big deal, it's not like that will change the potential client's impression of you.
Your oh-so-casual mention of consulting and "i-banking" clearly indicates that you went to the business school. If so, you are near the top of the arrogant prick food chain.
Well then, congratulations. Hard work sucks doesn't it?
Investment banking still exists?
no, i just consider it pointless to point out grammar and spelling errors on a sports blog and to give people shit about the title of their post.
Sometimes the grammar police do a little over-enforcing (in their defense, often to be comical) but the Brian the Blog God actually asked us to make informative thread titles, and when he speaks, we listen. Simple as that. You may want to think about where you want to spend your blog afterlife.
Your argument reeks of "But Mike Hart was a 3* and Grady was a 5*, rankings don't matter!" Michigan offers a greater probability of success than not going to college. Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard and made tons of money. Yet for some reason, people still go to Harvard.
Hooray, people are arrogant and are on cell phones at yor work. Gee, that doesn't happen ANYWHERE else. If you don't want random people being dicks to you every day, don't get any sort of job in a service industry. After all, I have trouble believing that every single person who walks into Jimmy Johns/Potbellies/Cosi/whatever manages to come off as an arrogant entitled ass.
Alright, I believe it for Cosi, but nowhere else!
"many of you will not succeed in life"
Your post just screams "real life success ahead".
Even though I suppose, due to my comments on the "Rodriguez Announces Departure (Grady?)" thread, I am one of the people Mr Pony is referring to, I have really enjoyed this thread.
The great thing is that a thread whose goal was to point out how bad this community is actually served to exemplify its best qualities. With very few exceptions, no one stooped to the OP's level. He was basically trashed through the use of wit and logic, though he seemingly does not have the ability to realize this. As usual, posters like WolvinLA, CPS, Chrisgocomment made me laugh out loud. Magnus was succinctly insightful as usual. WolverSwede, someone I have not seen around here, with great perspicacity captured what this board is all about - much better than I could have.
My two cent contribution is that there is an positive relationship between extent of one's inferiority complex and perceived arrogance in one's environment. And the causal arrow goes one way - inferiority leads to perceived arrogance; perceived arrogance does not lead to feelings of inferiority.
Not to be a dick, but you spelled "perspiration" wrong. And as his former roommate, I can confirm that WolverSwede does have great perspiration.
I think he meant perspicacity.
Not that I knew what the hell it meant, I looked it up.
I'm pretty sure he meant WolverSwede was sweating while typing his post. And by "great" I meant that it made our room smell better. Instead of buying febreeze, I would make him do jumping jacks. With his shirt off. I swear that was the only reason.
That was my second guess.
ha. it all makes sense now.
I actually tend to agree with the OP. I was always a bit annoyed by the constant grammar policing here, but never really cared enough to comment about it. Using proper grammar has always been something I tried to do, but I do think it's a bit ridiculous for someone to get criticized for poor punctuation when trying to discuss something a trivial as Denard's 40 time. For the record, I was accepted into Michigan, but for a variety of reasons that I'm sure no one here cares about, I opted to attend a state school in Illinois instead.
Anyways, I made my way to Ann Arbor a few times in a past 4 or 5 years and was completely taken aback by how condescending most students were when finding out I was a student at another school (that, heaven forbid, had a 1-AA football team) but still made my way out to Ann Arbor for a football game each year. I realize the small sample size I encountered does not represent the entire student population, but I just wanted to let the OP know he wasn't the only one with this experience.
Someone earlier stated that there are conceited students everywhere, to which I completely agree. However, in my admittedly limited experience, every other Big 10 school I've visited (Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa, Northwestern, and Purdue), pales in comparison in terms of the level of conceit and entitlement, with the possible exception of Northwestern. Whether that is anyone else's opinion, I am not sure, but I just wanted to put in my two cents and let you all know that this is the image, warranted or not, that many project onto you as students or alumni.
P.S. While I got accepted into Michigan, Illinois flat out rejected me. It's just one instance, but for those of you thinking Michigan and Penn are equals, you might want to think again.
not to start something else, but plenty of people i know in west michigan get denied from grand valley but accepted at MSU and GVSU students sometimes like to say that means they are a better school than MSU. for several reasons, that isn't true. acceptance to one school vs another inst a very good indicator of academics
Michigan State has a larger class size but in GR every kid is seemingly going to GRCC or GVSU. Not too many UM students and while there are more MSU students there don't seem to be a ton. Hope, Calvin, Ferris etc. get a lot of students also.
Hehehe. Way back when, I was accepted at Penn and waitlisted at UM. The admissions game is a noisy process.
Also was rejected at Northwestern. Of course, they're a bunch of arrogant, conceited assholes. I aspire to yell at them through my window while driving around Evanston one day.
Maybe you could hit a few too for good measure.
It's the circle of life.
EMU student runs over a few arrogant snobby Michigan students, Michigan student runs over some of those damn conceited Wildcats.
Now, who do the Wildcats run over? Stanford students?
Wildcats run over anybody who gets in the way.
Rich and smart people are more snobby than those who aren't. It's always been that way and always will be.
I take back my fighting statement. I will kill you with kindness? Is that okay with you white pony?
Magnus am I forgiven?
WolvinLA please say one little cuss for me?
Anyways, watching the Pens game and I want a repeat of last year. Wings in 5 or 6 against Pens is cool with me.
this thread blew up in the time I left work and went out to play hockey.
I'm only replying to offer my thanks to those that left kind words. Thanks. Life goes on, I get by. I sometimes fight for my place on this planet, but don't we all?
Just kidding. I was wanting to point out that the defense of proper English isn't owned by rich, whiny, spoiled brats, but your example far exceeds anything I could have offered. It's an amazing story, and you should be proud of what you've achieved. Just make sure errors like the one above don't happen again.
that is all.
Just joking around. I even tried to add this to the last post but you were too fast.
[flippant rant about douches that correct grammar]
[long-winded, baseless arguments without point]
[questioning of previous poster's sexual orientation]
[insincere vow/empty threat to never return to website again]
[similar warning telling previous poster to not even bother responding because it won't be read]
"OT topics" is redundant
What's worse: arrogant, rich, smart people, or angry average people with huge chips on their shoulder's that hate everything and everyone?
in keeping with the theme of this thread, and the 5 beers I drank at ABC, it's "shoulders" - nothing possessive about shoulders in your statement.
Also, how many of you have seen the grammar correction on the wall of the 1st floor men's bathroom of ABC? I always thought it was great, and especially thought so tonight.
thank you for correcting me. I wouldn't want to do that wrong in 'real life' situations.
the wealth of knowledge and free grammar/spelling lessons provided by this board are invaluable.
for comments. Off the top of my head I don't recall 187, now 188 comments before, Maybe an old McFarlin thread perhaps.
It became a part of me.
Thank you so much.
You know, I didn't go to Michigan. But my DAD did. And he's a LAWYER, and just you wait til HE hears about this. I'm actually gonna go in to work today at the job he got me at the firm JUST to show him this thread. He'll sue you for so much money that he'll be able to buy me a new Benz, 'cause I smashed the old one on a tree.
It took me a half hour to read this thread. We really need September to come.
This isn't a dig, but seriously... do you? 20 second long interactions with UM students while making food, combined with complaining about State Street jaywalkers makes me think one of the sandwich shops on the main campus drag. I was leaning towards JJ, but you mentioned having to ask what sort of sandwich a customer has, which JJ doesn't do and Potbelly does in order to ring you up. Amers has more non-student customers than student, Cosi's interactions last longer than 20 seconds, and Redhawk is sit down. I'm ruling out the Philly sub shop or whatever it is, because no one goes there. That leaves only Chipotle and Potbelly, and the workers I see at Potbelly seem more like Deftones listeners than Chipotle's people. So, Potbelly?
This is the sort of knowledge you acquire when your number of cheap sandwiches consumed between classes is so large as to be measured in scientific notation.
This type of logic and problem-solving is another great example of the real-world skills of the Michigan students and alumni.
So, in summation:
If you're a current Michigan student, I'd steer clear of Potbelly's or any other State Street eatery. There is an extremely angry EMU student spitting (or worse) in your Wreck.
It is my one goal in life to one day start a board topic that has more than 200 comments on it.
Just write a hilariously wrong topic post attacking everyone at the college you supposedly support, and then attack anyone who dares to point out the wrongness. Not too hard.
you are sure to boost the number of replies as well.
because this thread needs it
I'm leaving another comment just to bump this thing back up to the top.
Because that's where this masterpiece belongs.
I believe that we have reached the pinnacle of internet posting here. Not just in regards to the OP, but with the wide array of smart-ass replies, angry replies and downright disturbing ones.
Internet, this is your retirement swan song.
Everyone who posted in this thread deserves a t-shirt.
Since I don't remember how to post images in comments, here's the link.
Nice. They would be really awesome if you could have your username printed on top of the back, like the last name on a jersey. I would have to hide it from my girlfriend though, she would drop be like a bad habit if she found it.
I'd like my name on the back that is followed below in quotations "knows nothing of the real world" or "knows how to spell" either one, I'm not picky.
set up like the Black Shirts at Nebraska...you should have to EARN the right to wear one of those bad boys.
but who would be the first mgocommenter to have this enormous honor bestowed upon them?
Tough choices indeed!
i will buy one.
Just like the military, it needs ribbon bars on the left chest.
Medals could be presented for:
Grammar Nazi - ten confirmed kills.
Maintaining a condescending air in the face of extreme ignorance.
Going above and beyond the call to arrogance.
i finally read this thread and cant believe i missed it in may
I'd like to nominate it for "thread of 2009"
or even better "thread of the decade"
P.S. yes i would like a tshirt (even this late)
P.P.S. yes i am an douche student at michigan who loves talking on his phone when individuals clearly of less worth from that school to our east make me yummy potbellies
One of the best posts EVER on any sports or non-sports blog...period. I didn't even go to M and I understand that the author has a unique insight that we have never considered before.
I guess my education at Penn State was good for something after all.
Other than it fits this thread...
seems like a relevant bump as of late
what a great op.
"I'm sure that some people are going to bitch about me having to long of a post"
First of all, it's "too long of a post."
Second of all, this post was too long.
I would personally like to know what you searched to come across this thread.
Just because I can, and I love this picture:
Next time may I recommend...
what a bump