OT- Best movies lately?
what you think it means.
What? I only said 2 words, and they were both part of a movie title. I don't get it.
He was referring to the ongoing joke in the movie of the use of the word "Inconceivable"
Yes of course. Now I feel dumb, especially because I JUST watched that movie. (sticks tail between legs and walks away)
I am a huge movie guy and probably watch one every two days. I loved the following:
Body of Lies
Saw that on DVD, pretty unknown but excellent action/sci-fi/killing scenes
It got overshadowed by the Matrix
Honestly? That movie was unbelievably brutal. R DeNiro and A Pacino phoned it in. Watch Heat or Godfather II instead.
Good laugher - I Love You Man.
Doctor... Doctor...Doctor...Doctor... aaaaand Doctor
If you like movies that are a little bit on the "yes homo" side, but its about a guy and a dog, no wait a wolf/dog hybrid (barwis prefers the pure wolves). You would probably like "White Fang" I watched it on the Hallmark channel the other day. I heard they wrote a book about it.
Let The Right One In.
Huge movie buff here. Some of my favorites the past few months.
Watchmen (You have to love the book to love the movie.)
Gran Torino (Filmed and set in Michigan.)
Gonzo (Hunter S doc that came out over the summer, I just saw it and it was excellent.)
I Love You, Man.
You don't have to love the comic to love Watchmen, you have to love horribly paced, mind-numbingly long pop action films that feature a different cliche 80s song in every scene and completely miss the point of their source material.
Spend the almost three hours it takes to watch the movie to start the comic, it's much more enjoyable. Or to go for a walk. Just don't see Watchmen
Please explain to me how exactly Watchmen "missed the point of their source material." I have read more comics than your average comic book nut. I have never seen a movie that stayed more faithful to the source material. This is the biggest flaw of Watchmen, those who cannot appreciate the book, those who did not love the book do not like the film. I totally understand why. It's long, it's slow and it uses music that seems cliche but was taken directly out of the comic.
I'd love to see your defense that it's stayed MORE faithful than most movies. Watchmen the Mediocre Movie is about 65% of Watchmen of Alan Moore.
This is off the top of my head:
- No squid, instead made it about Dr. Manhattan
- Almost complete avoidance of the violent aftermath of Ozymandias's attack on New York.
- No Tales Of The Black Freighter
- No detectives story.
- No death of Original Nite Owl Hollis Mason.
I'm pretty sure I could sniff other ones out as well if I gave it a minute. For comic book movies especially, Sin City was far more adherent to the source material. Hell, the author was co-director of that movie.
And I'm also pretty sure that Me and Bobby McGee and Leonard Cohen are NOT in the graphic novel.
Let's stop this Watchmen discussion here. I love that I can hide my complete nerd-ery from you guys here in the sports intarwebz. Plz don't draw me out by making simple-minded comments about nerd stuff.
I recommended reading the book in my post. I think it's excellent. Loving the comic in no way correlates with liking the movie. In fact, according to my totally unscientific measurements, most of the people I've talked to that liked the movie had never read the book.
You're right in the fact that Watchmen's major flaw is that it's painfully faithful to the narrative structure of the source material. It plays like a comic book. The problem is that we are not reading a comic book, we are watching a film. There are certain structural conventions that commercial films must follow, things like pacing through proper editing and developed, intelligent scriptwriting that the movie totally misses the mark with. The dialogue might work in the comic, but much of it is awful when actually spoken.
The character development is fine for a comic, but once you get these characters on screen, every one but the Comedian is totally flat in performance: Rorschach and Manhattan have zero voice inflection, Silk Spectre and Nite Owl have little personality outside of glints of nostalgic ponderings, and the Comedian disappears 1/3 of the way through the film. I know these characters are faithful to the comic, but that doesn't mean that Zac Snyder did a good job making this film. You could faithfully adapt someone's day at the office, yet that wouldn't make it an interesting or powerful film. Just like Watchmen, after viewing one could ask, "What's the point?"
I also have thematic problems, but this post is getting way too long.
Lastly, what are you talking about "it uses music that seems cliche but was taken directly out of the comic?" None of the stupid songs that are in the Watchmen movie are ever, ever mentioned in the comic. Whoever did the music must have been like "OMG! Our audience will be composed of 12 year-old boys who didn't live through the 80s! We have to get music that is "really 80s" like 99 balloons and Hallelujah to really get the tone right!!!" Ugh, the music was pitifully done
The film doesn't stand on its own because it is horribly paced and completely fails to create relevance for the occurrences in it. It just lifts the material right out of the book without regard for context or meaning.
It is as if a child took apart a watch and arbitrarily glued together an assortment parts. Complete failure of art. Complete waste of time... actually it has nice visuals. Soundtrack is epic fail.
(I grew up on the comic btw)
if you're more visually inclined, the comic book really wanders into 'who cares territory' Do I really care about dan's essay on owls? Or Veidt's selection of perfume. Yes it adds more depth, but it's depth that doesn't really matter. And I thought the squid thing was stupid anyway. I'm glad they changed it.
Watchmen probably should have been on HBO or something where it could have been chopped up into episodes to help with the pacing, but it would have been hard to get the budget needed for the special effects. It wouldn't have been good to do a kill bill type split, because there really wasn't enough of an arc to make two movies.
And the pirate thing was a parallel story to highlight ozzymandis's story, it didn't need to be in the movie. and until about the 5th book in the comic I thought it was just a waste of time.
The only changes I didn't like were the extra bloody and gruesome changes to the fight scenes. except for rorscharch nailing the guy in the head, that seemed emotionally appropriate.
and virtually everything about Dr. manhattan was carried of awesomely in the movie.
You're right that many of these elements are unimportant when considering the work from a linear-narrative perspective. But they add a deeper meta-context that ultimately is what sets Watchmen apart from its contemporaries (as the story itself, while intriguing, is not entirely exceptional).
What makes Watchmen special is the structure; the manner in which it unfolds is true art. The rest is just storytelling. Movie misses this completely and is just a story. With some nice ta-tas, to be sure.
The best analogy I can come up with is the way that Peter Jackson handled Lord of the RIngs. I believe that most would agree that Watchmen is a more "faithful" adaption than Lord of the Rings in terms of direct copies of shots, lines of dialogue, and story structure. Yet, Lord of the Rings is a much, much better film and thus a much better adaption.
This has some to do with the way Lord of the Rings is narratively presented (much is cut out to keep the story moving, dialogue is written for the screen, not for the page, and the characters have an emotional core that is easy to identify with), but it has more to do with the way that each source is written. Lord of the Rings is plot driven. Frodo must destroy the ring, the fellowship must help him, battles are fought to keep this interesting and to stay true to fantasy traditions.
Watchmen, however, is much less reliant on plot. It is a character analysis, asking what would happen if regular people just decided one day to become super heroes. It comes to certain conclusions, much of them disturbing, through a series of examinations of each character's past and their relations with the chaotic world that they live in. Does that sound like Lord of the Rings? Absolutely not, it is a completely different type of fiction. Thus, while Lord of the Rings can be adapted relying on plot alone, Watchmen must be approached in a whole different way to provide a successful adaption.
And this is why I don't think that a viable film version of the Silmarillion will ever materialize. Though I would love to see one anyhow, it's such a well told story.
uhhhh... hate to be the super nerd - but...
The Dark Knight - best movie of last year IMHO. if you think it is just a comic book movie - just forget that it is a "batman" movie and think of it as a crime drama. heath ledger was great - there was a reason everyone was making a big deal about him. it's long - 2.5 hours? but worth it.
Gran Torino - if only for Clint
i don't think Frost/Nixon is out on DVD yet - but should be soon.
You could see the beginning of the JOKER in Heath in that movie.
If you're a fan of 40 Year Old Virgin, Knocked Up, Pineapple Express, Superbad, and all those other Seth Rogen movies, then see Zack and Miri Make a Porno. Advertising companies censored it for the most part because it simply contained "Porno" in the title so it went by mostly unnoticed, but it's really funny.
Edit: Although, I guess it's more than a few months old.
i went to the girl's house and she wanted to watch a movie. that's the one she picked. good choice :P
They should make a movie called "World war 3", between Woody and BO. Would be a great movie. Start the movie off from 1968 game with Woody going for 2 when the score was like 48-?. Then BO getting hired, then having offseason workouts til the 1969 game going until woodys fire.
it's R rated so be careful where you watch it and who you watch it with. You have to enter a birthdate to access it
I watch far too many movies, and I don't want to overload the room so I'm going to take your "last few months" to mean January to now.
Taken - come for the awesome violence, stay for the xenophobic patriarchy.
Coraline - I know it sounds pedo for a 24-year old guy to be pimping a 3D movie with a 11-year old heroine, but anyone who watches it will be blown away, visually speaking. It's the future of the media, IMO. 3D has moved into FTW territory in the last year or two. Plus, it's from Neil Gaiman /nerding
The Last House On The Left - only if you like horror movies. It's not like The Ring, where people where non-horror guys can like it.
I Love You, Man - only see it if you are expecting a pretty average, coasting effort from some really funny actors. I'm probably overexposed to it, but I'm feeling that the Apatow clan is moving towards fridge-nukeage.
Go see it tonight at the State Theatre. I believe this is the last night. An epic Italian mob movie, kind of a quasi-documentary, that follows five different characters and how they all intertwine with the Comorra crime family. Very interesting film. Scorsese produced it, in Italian w/ subtitles.
I just saw this a few nights ago and really enjoyed it.
The English Patient, it is old but always worth a watch.
Confessions of a Shopaholic
Goal and Goal 2
The one movie I watched lately and absolutely hated was the Wrestler, I really didn't see what was so special about it
I have to disagree. The Wrestler was fantastic. Revolutionary Road, on the other hand, was disappointing, although the supporting performances were great.
I have a slightly obscure recommendation: The Wind That Shakes The Barley. This is an Irish movie, about the two brothers caught up in the Irish independence movement and subsequent partitioning of the country in the early 20th century. Well acted, well directed, gorgeous Irish scenery. Won top prize at Cannes in 2006.
With regards to the Wrestler, I felt like the movie just ended, and nothing was really solved. Like he just tried and gave up as soon as shit blew up in his face and didn't go back to trying again. Maybe if you could explain the ended to me I would be able to appreciate it better, but it is not deserving of the ratings it got in my book. Maybe I just had huge expectations given all the critical acclaim....I will check out the Barley movie though thanks for that.
First, here's what I loved about The Wrestler. Mickey Rourke's amazing performance of course-- very few actors could have played that role, and he makes a slightly average script into a great movie. It reminded me of De Niro in Raging Bull, which is probably overstating it a little, but it did. Second, I thought it was well directed-- for example the shots were the camera followed Rourke from behind, whether he was walking through the meat factory or into the ring, and the wrestling scenes themselves were very personal and, I think, realistic-- like when the wrestlers are talking through their next moves. I loved the details there. And Jersey-- the real Jerz. I felt like I was in a Springsteen song, which of course you do get one in the end, and what a good song it is.
Now, the ending: The Wrestler was more a character study than your traditional beginning, middle, end plot-driven story. And, yeah, there's no definitive conclusion, other than this: after 90 minutes, we know who Randy the Ram is; thus the title. The movie ends in the ring because he can't walk away, because there's no other place for him to go. So yeah, I'd have to see it again, and I will, to give you a more well thought out conclusion.
more of a heartfelt expose than a plot driven story. but if you're looking for the crisis and resolution here it is.
Randy is alone. He is lonely. He has no family. The whole movie is randy trying to find a real connection to someone. He tries the stripper. He tries his daughter, he even tries the patrons in the deli. But none of them can compare to his wrestling fans. And the resolution (though not necessarily a happy one) is that he chooses his fans over the stripper, over his daughter. He finally knows who he is.
that make it over here, something about the culture I guess. I have to agree in a sense with not seeing Revolutionary Road, I don't have an interest in it--how many films can we see about how the suburbs SEEM nice on the outside, but inside everyone is a drone that is miserable and unfulfilled because they didn't follow their dream and stay in Manhattan
Have you seen Once? I don't know a lot about Irish films, but Once is a must-see. Such a sweet (meaning heartfelt, not tubular) film
You GOT to see "The Commitments". It's like an Irish "That Thing You Do", but without Steve Zahn and featuring soul music rather than early 60's jangle pop. Oh, and it's much closer to "Once" in emotional pull.
Glen Hansard, the star of Once, is also in The Commitments.
Also really like Local Hero (which is set in Scotland though), The Matchmaker, Waking Ned Devine, all really good. The Quiet Man, from the 1950's with John Wayne starring (he doesn't play the usual Wayne character) is also good.
I watched Duplicity last week. Have to take it with a pinch of salt, but good nevertheless.
That's more than a grain though, so you're in good shape.
Role models was surprising funny, just watch with some friends and get ready to shout 'that's what she said!'
I liked body of lies, traitor wasn't as good.
Pride and glory was ok. not as strong as departed but ed norton gives a good performance.
the ladies say 'he's just not that into you' is good, but I haven't gotten around to seeing it yet.
taken was pretty good, if you like the bourne movies.
And of course any of the oscar nominees from this year are worth checking out, especially dark knight, wall-e, gran torino, vicky-christina-barcelona, the wrestler.
Some of my favorites:
Das Testament des Dr. Mabuse
Silver Dragon Ninja
Always a good time
If you guys have girlfriends/wives that like movies and you guys are fans of indie films, Rachel Getting Married is a good watch. Anne Hathaway can be so despicable at times, yet she can turn it around in a moment. It relies a bit too much on pity at times, but it is a story about sisterhood, so what are you gonna do?
Just watched Gran Torino, I can honestly say that it left me speechless. Clint Eastwood never seems to disappoint with his movies.
Nobody has mentioned Doubt yet. That is a GREAT character drama and Phillip Seymour Hoffman continues to prove that he's one of Hollywood's best actors.
Go catch Doubt.
I just saw Gomorra at the Ann Arbor Film Festival...one of the ten best films I've ever seen