Anyone else watching the USC game? Watching Oregon's small fast players tear apart USC's defense is making me excited about Michigan in the coming years.
Additionally this is the same oregon state that Penn State dominated earlier in the season.
Yah that Rodgers kid looks awesome. I wouldn't mind him on Michigan.
As much as I hate to shit like this, I think USC totally underestimated Oregon State and came out really flat. It's hard to overcome a team that's got an edge and once the crowd gets into it and adrenaline starts flowing, it can be game over. See Braylonfest for an example.
I agree somewhat Shock, but Oregon State is also playing really well.
Yeah. but it's a heck of a turnaround from getting beat 55-7 or something to PSU then leading USC 14-0 and just rolling them in the trenches. And I'm pretty sure he caught that and that was a fumble. What a fucking terrible call. Wow. He caught that and turned. WTF.
Should be 21-0 OSU. I hope to god they overturn this. He clearly caught it and turned.
That was too close to overturn - either way.
I kind of hate that rule in a way. It's not "conclusive" but it's highly, highly likely that the call was wrong. I realize it has to be conclusive in order to avoid a grey area, but it still doesn't sit well with me when the outcome is "can't be overturned either way".
*Inappropriate Trojan/Beaver joke* etc etc
We need to borrow some of those screen plays
This OSU coach better not settle for 3. Playing it safe against USC isn't the best move.
Risk aversion is suboptimal anyway. Risk neutral is where it's at.
Looking at the touchdown, that was a very close and risky call. They really got lucky there.
It was just a throw that needed to be a bit more to the outside. The call was excellent, as you can see the QB looking that way the whole time. The throw was just not that good. So while I agree they were lucky it wasn't picked, they put themselves in that spot with more than just luck. Gotta separate process from outcome.
They definately were responsible for the situation they were in, however the risk of losing momentum going into the half and being withing 2 scores of USC may have outweighed the reward of the extra 4 points.
I guess in the end it is a matter of opinion and view of risk.
I see where you're coming from, but I tend to always fall on the side of, "take your shots while you have them". Yes it's possible they would end up with no points, but the optimal outcome was to take 1 or 2 shots at it while passing to the outside with the easy option to throw the ball away. The QB got bailed out, but eh, fumbles are just as likely as interceptions most of the time, and people seem to think throwing is riskier than running. Unless, of course, you're running to kill the clock, which tends to result in fewer fumbles because the RB has the ball locked down with 2 hands.
THAT was amazing! 21-0. This is not the same USC team I watched play OSU.
that oregon state would lay down. it's the one weakness pete carroll coached teams have. they read too much of their own press clippings and get big-headed.
That can happen to any team though, its just the nature of being number one. Look what happened in last years Super Bowl. While the Giants played well, the Patriots were not playing their best football. After going 18-0 its hard to put your all into it and Belichick made that a point the entire season. I imagine Carroll is doing the same, but the players don't always get the message.
Shock -- that throw was a bad decision. the DB was considerably taller than the WR, making a successful throw near impossible.
USC is making a lot a bad mental errors. big penalties. mindless plays...
They are playing like they have a D-1AA from north carolina lined up across from them.
Right, the THROW was a bad decision, but the playcall was not. If you watch the QB, he's locked in on that receiver the whole way. It's clear he was only supposed to throw if there was good separation because you want to avoid a chance at an INT. And there was sufficient separation, the throw was just really bad.
The end of the first half was very annoying with the ESPM talking heads effectively saying "just kick the FG". How many shots is OSU really going to have? And when USC gets the chance to make some adjustments at half, the whole game could change.
I agree that they had to take a shot at the endzone. They may not get that close again.
My comment was only that the pass he threw had almost no chance of getting into that spot. He should have thrown it out of the endzone.
I thought that the throw could have been made if it was attempted earlier. the WR had a step on the DB. If the throw was earlier, it would have left room for the pass to get dropped in the corner. at that point, the WR and DB were too close to the sideline to be able to drop it in.
My worthless prediction. If they don't score on this drive. USC wins.
Yeah, the QB has to err on the side of impossible for the WR to catch there. It's gotta be high and outside where you hope your WR makes the play. It's the same kind of call Les Miles used against Auburn last year with the throw to the outside with very little time left. The throw should have been high and outside like LSU's, /shrug.
This game has completely changed. It seems like USC is going to score on every drive now.
Oregon State needs to make a play. Can't let USC get unleashed on offense with the weapons they have.
its too late. USC has the look of a runaway beer truck... can't be stopped.
OSU isn't opening any holes on the LOS. They are going 3 and out again. The game will probably be tied by the end of the quarter.
Oops. Just kidding, you're still cool in my book mjvan.
yeah, i missed that one.
That was a decent throw by sanchez on 2nd and 9. That WR needs to angle back towards the LOS to keep the DB away from the ball. But the WR doesn't and it damn near gets picked.
OSU's QB really needs to run more. He had that first down had he taken off.
Did you catch the Dr. Lou segment at half? The "call" from Urban Meyer hit a little too close to AA. Lou saying how you have to let bad coaches go and replace them with good coaches. I couldn't get the names Moeller, DeBord and Gittleson out of my head for about 5 minutes after that.
By the way, I'm getting really sick of ESPN spewing the SEC bible everywhere. I know that ESPN has the big contract with the SEC, but get over it. The SEC is good, but it has a lot of holes. The Auburn-MSU game wasn't great defense, it was terrible offense.
You have to remember, ESPN/ABC has a Big10 contract too. If the big 10 turns it around they will fellate us as well.
yeah, he could have run on 2nd down if he tucked it up inside of the DE.
USC wins this game. I'll wager money.
I'm not going to predict anything past if OSU can keep up pressure it'll be difficult for USC to win. However, I think USC can cause turnovers in a hurry.
OSU Punt Returner was positively Donovan Warren-esqe there.
I was thinking the EXACT same thing.
I'll give OSU some credit. They took the hit from USC and now are regrouping. I still think USC has this one, but it may be more interesting than I had anticipated.
I find it interesting how often USC rolls Sanchez. For a team that has only given up one sack, this season, it seems like they do a lot to take the pressure off of their OL.
This team lost to STANFORD. OSU, did, I mean.
Wow. I do think they need to run that there. Not because of some stupid aversion to passing, but because their RB has been getting 2 yards without issue.
Especially when you have a kicker who literally cannot kick.
with the osu version of gingell, they should have considered it 4 down territory.
Isn't that exactly what the intentional grounding penalty is for?
The stupid penalties are really hurting USC. That hold accomplished nothing. The RB was already outside of the contain.
I kind of get that call. You figure you'll have a shot at McKnight breaking it, otherwise it's picking up 10 yards of field position at least.
The WR was right there.
What a crap call on third down. MAy as well have gone and run a draw.
For as much hype as Pete Carroll gets for being such an amazing coach, almost every year he has those games that his team should win and they just give up. At least when OSU loses it's to good teams, like LSU, Florida, USC, even Illinois last year was pretty good. USC loses to bad teams, like Stanford last year, Oregon State in previous years, and maybe again this year. Sure the Trojans do well in the huge games, but you have to win the little ones too.
They have serious play makers at WR. Let them make a play downfield.