Dann O'Neill is joining his brother at Western.
O'Neill to Western
I was under the impression he didn't want to play football anymore.
yeah thats interesting he sounds like he feels out of place, hopefully he finds what he is looking for at Western.
That's why he's going to Western.
Which is really freaking weird, because I could have sworn our opening game is against WMU.
I only comment on Michigan players.
Then why bother to post on this thread?
How odd. I, too, thought he was leaving the program because he was leaving the sport altogether; not the case, I guess. He seems like a perfectly nice guy; good luck to him. Some people tell me I use too many semicolons; objectively, I probably do.
I have the same problem.
I really don't think that he fit the system, plus he's with his brother and is now closer to home. Good luck to him, he could be great (not legendary but aboverage obvs) for WMU.
aside from his brother, there's also a few other guys from grand haven (o'neill's hometown). probably part of the reason why he went there
Good luck to him. Too bad we won't be able to play against him this year. Maybe in future seasons.
Being from Kalamazoo I say good for him and good for the Broncos. Hope things work out for all sides.
Sometimes 5-star recruits turn out to be 2-star players. Not to knock west Michigan, but a dominant player from Grand Haven may not be a dominant player at the college level. The amount of talent that has come out of the west side of the state is Obi Ezeh and ?
O'Neil, Baraka, Grady. Hopefully Huyge come through
nice call. Harris, Obi, and Huyge we're all 3-stars. Any 4-star W. Michigan kids make it big?
Packers WR from K-zoo, that went to Western, and Harris starting at ILB for Jets were both under the radar recruits
That WR is Brandon Jennings. Pro Bowler I believe.
TJ Duckett made it big out of Kalamazoo.
Somehow West Michigan schools win a lot of state championships in football over the east side schools, but produce less D-1 talent.
IMO, Harris is the best linebacker we have had in the past decade.
His measurables are sure close to those of a certain #1 recruit in the nation. (currently)
You cannot measure tenacity or ability to apply the physical talents that you have.
A dominant player from ______________________ may not be a dominant player at the college level.
Feel free to insert any city, state, country, or galaxy.
Terrance Taylor is from the western side of the state (Muskegon).
So is Ronald Johnson.
Dominant HS player from Houston or Miami over a dominant HS player from Grand Rapids or Traverse City any day. I don't think that would ever be disputed.
T. Taylor is a 5-star success story for sure. R. Johnson too.
Muskegon is around an hour away from GR and a couple from traverse.... Johnson and Taylor were both dominant in high school, and I guess you can't compare that either because most D-1 BCS college recruits were dominant in high school regardless of where they played. Laurinaitis played in a Dakota state that I can't remember, I'd assure you he was dominant.
Minnesota is NOT a Dakota state, thank you very much. Laurinaitis was a senior at my high school (Wayzata) when I was a sophomore. He was totally beastly in high school and was overrated but still pretty beastly in college. So, yes, all D-1 recruits are rectangles, but not all D-1 recruits are squares
Well put I will subtract an mgopoint for my blunder.
The point is, dominant college players can come from anywhere; busts can come from anywhere, too. You can't say "Dominant players from the west side of the state don't do anything in college" because it's not true, and I'm sure there are a shit-ton of dominant players from Miami or Houston who haven't done anything in college, either.
The recruiting services don't say, "Hey, there's a 6'8", 310 pound guy driving midgets into the ground. He's a 5-star all the way!" They say, "Okay, wait a minute...he has good size, but what about his competition? What about his technique?"
Who knows? Kevin Grady could have gone to Miami Northwestern and still dominated...and then had a subpar college career. It depends on the individual, not where he came from.
And, alternatively, maybe if Grady had gone to MSU he would have out-Ringer'd Ringer.
Grady was not fortunate and his decisions have not helped himself. Fumbling isn't great either but Minor did it and look where he and Grady are respectively.
Excuse me. Ronald John$on.
Edit: Did someone not get the sarcasm?
Muskegon is a very good football school. Grand Haven does not compare.
iirc, they played during oneills senior year and they were both top 10 in the state or something at the time but then muskegon just steamrolled them by 20+ points because muskegon is just on a different level. despite the fact that GH is D1 and muskegon is D2
Muskegon is above and beyond everyone in the OK-Red, Grandville, West Ottowa, GH, Jenison, East Kentwood, and Rockford are all Class A, but the only team Muskegon has serious trouble with consistently is Hudsonville which is Class B. Rockford won Class A and Muskegon beat them by 20 at Rockford, their only loss.
potential best play to wear #67.... Terrance Taylor anyone?
Muskegon, MI 49441...west coast
are we just naming UM players from west MI? Ronald Johnson is a stud but he plays for USC. Ill try to think of more.
Someone posted basically saying that the western side of the state doesn't produce much college talent. We started listing good players from the western side of the state to disprove his theory.
Goodd Luckk Dann.
I think it will take a certain kind of player to handle the intensity and demands of the "new" Michigan program. I think Dann probably would have made it through the old program and have been a decent lineman. I think we are demanding more from everyone now and we are going to see a positive difference on the field. I look forward to seeing us actually blow out the teams that don't have as much talent sometime in the next few years.
gerald ford; presidential recruit.
Fufilled upside - major sleeper, made it to the the Oval Office.
Sounds like WMU is a really good fit for the kid. I hope he does well.
Muskegon has been consistently ranked nationally for the past half decade maybe whole decade. They have a lot of talent up there. From what i have noticed they seem to be quite similar in producing talent just like case tech. Recently i havnt noticed any big names come from there but it will come around again.
Both of the Vikings' outside linebackers are from South Dakota. (Ben Leber and Chad Greenway, a 1st rd pick)