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By Brian — March 12th, 2012 at 12:18 PM — 26 comments
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3/09/2012 – Michigan 2, Notre Dame 1 (OT) – 22-11-4
3/10/2012 – Michigan 3, Notre Dame 1 – 23-11-4, advance to CCHA semifinals

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This weekend Michigan will make its 24th straight trip to Joe Louis Arena for the CCHA semifinals. The program hasn't recruited a kid who was alive the last time Michigan was absent for going on a decade now. The last 21 of those years, Michigan has followed up the Joe with an appearance in the NCAA tourney. Since they responded to their ugly November with a 16-3-2 tear to end the year they'll make it 22 in two weeks. The only people who remember a time when these streaks were not active are the old men in Yost not quite old enough to forget.

That is incredible consistency. Just look across the lake and find future Big Ten foes Wisconsin and Minnesota if you want to chalk it up to recruiting. Both those teams select who they want, like Michigan, and have rosters littered with NHL draft picks, like Michigan. They're both working on a tourney streak of zero. Michigan State is also in that situation. (Since Rick Comley left the roster stacked with AARP members instead of future NHLers, that's a different argument.) Those are three of college hockey's glamour programs and they have one bid between them the last three years.

A lot of the vibe around Michigan's program in recent years has focused on how the team has only turned two of those 21 bids into national championships, but that's a conversation for the flat blank day the day after your soul shrivels up when a puck goes in the wrong net and hides inside its lonely crevasse for 52 more weeks of winter. In the immediate aftermath of Michigan punching out Jeff Jackson's eighth-place, college-hockey-NIT-bound Irish and Ferris State blowing it against Bowling Green it's time to give thanks for consistency.

Notre Dame was supposed to finish first in the league this year unless Miami did; they took their great talent and legendary coach and shiny new arena and finished one game above .500. Ferris State actually won the league this year; they took on the worst team in the conference and lost. Neither will be at the Joe. Michigan will, because Michigan always is.

It would be one thing if that was because they always had some ludicrous talents on the team. In recent years this hasn't really been the case. They don't have a lights-out scorer. Their top guys in PPG tied for 94th this year. They've made a transition from firewagon hockey to a more defensive style; they coped with the total implosion of their power play. The big star last year was either a defenseman who never hits anyone or a lightning-fast Swede better known for his defense than his offense. Their big star this year is their goalie.

Michigan has transitioned into a new, monstrously tight-checking era of college hockey without missing a beat. They've all but locked down a one seed after that terrible awful vertiginous November showed us a picture hardly anyone remembers: April without Michigan hockey.

I've got a few Illinois fans on my twitter feed and their mournfulness yesterday as Selection Sunday played on without the Illini was striking as I pondered Michigan's 24 and 22-year streaks. We've been there ourselves, as Michigan's 2008 season spiraled into the dirt and Bo's bowl streak went up in flames. As the basketball program embarks on a baby streak of their own and football gets back up to speed, let's take a moment and give thanks for the unchanging excellence in Yost.

Things happen. Your goalie flames out or some guy leaves school and you're left with a guy from the club team and a mop Jon Falk said you could borrow you call "Lee Moppie" because all hockey nicknames consist of putting "—ie" at the end of someone's name. Moppie sees way too much time and gets stuck in his own end because it's a mop and you lose a bunch of games. Even Bo's bowl streak was a flimsy thing when Harbaugh went down.

It is at this point that your program lays down for a breather, and you find out that the only thing worse than the horrible deflating feeling in April is one in March or February or November. But not for us, not yet.

Highlights

It was really too bad this one wasn't on TV. It was the game of the year, no question, and up there as far as Yost all-timers go. Obviously not at the level of tourney games; other than that it's competing with Ryan Miller-era games against MSU and that BC game when Jack Johnson shot the goalie's helmet off.

Saturday:

Hunwick on his last game at Yost:

Bullets

The flag. It's above. It's fabulous. They'll have to figure out exactly when to deploy it since their current idea conflicts with the "who cares" bit during player introductions, but it is awesome. They'll figure it out. Aaron Ward paid for most of it, which is also awesome. Also, Taylor Lewan pled for the Arizona state flag—which the student section deployed when Moffatt got a penalty just to show it off—to make an appearance at Michigan Stadium this fall. 

I want more flags. All of the flags!

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That's more like it, Notre Dame goalie situation. CenterIce has a diary breaking down the Michigan goals and came away from the weekend with an impression similar to mine:

Watching the highlights I was very surprised by how the scoring played out for us. I could not see anything televised because of my location, but it was very strange to see an entire series of lucky bounces and soft goals.

Michigan had a bunch of legit scoring chances they rang off the posts (three of them in the first OT Friday); everything else was soft.

Even though Summerhays wasn't exactly awful—he did give up just over 2 GAA—most of the goals he gave up were soft-ish, none worse than the harmless dink Phil Di Giuseppe managed to slide through his five hole:

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If you let something in through the five hole at that angle from that tight, you have earned the "it's all your fault" in the aftermath.

Meanwhile, Hunwick was just about flawless. He had no hope on ND's Saturday goal, on which Jon Merrill didn't realize he had a two-on-one situation down low and went after a puckhandler emerging from the half-boards, leaving the back door wide open. The Friday goal came after a long period of Notre Dame pressure featuring several grade A stops from Hunwick; finally he could not react fast enough when ND found an open guy in the slot on a pass that came from behind the net.

Meanwhile, the all-Gongshow goalie gave up ten in a three game series against BGSU. Well done, hockey gods.

Notre Dame. Good? Bad? ND is such a confusing team. I think I was right to be very much against playing them in the second round, as they dominated large stretches of the first game and could have/should have put it away. Hunwick was ridiculous, and Michigan was much better in the OT. Michigan was much better on Saturday; even so my impression from watching ND play four times this year is that they should be easily in the tourney.

The goalie thing is a big, big problem. You could tell the body language on Saturday night was "here we go again." If they just had an average goalie I'm guessing they're well above the bubble.

Top line re-emerges. They had a little bit of a quiet spot there. That's over after Brown got the winner Friday and Wohlberg's top-quality snipes Saturday. They were dominant for stretches on the cycle, as well.

Now that Glendening and Di Giuseppe are getting some goals it seems like Michigan has two solid scoring lines for the tournament with the potential for some bonus stuff from Moffatt, a Lynch, etc.

The main problem left. The power play is just horrendous. They could not even get the zone on Friday night, and while they fixed the problem somewhat Saturday they still ended up 0/7 on the weekend. There's an obvious lack of dipsy-doo on the team that is a problem. Michigan has never in my memory played two defensemen on the PP, and I remember many years where the solution to getting the zone on the powerplay was "give it to Hensick."

This year the guy most likely to get the zone on the rush is… Mac Bennett, probably, and he does it by beating a guy as he leaves the defensive zone. When an opponent is lining four up across the blue line like ND was he doesn't have the puckhandling to make guys back off.

I don't really have any answers here. I'll just be over here massaging my temples for the next two minutes.

Sparks. : ( Scratched again and with no points in forever it's hard to make the case he should not be. I just thought that line was so close to putting in a half-dozen goals once he returned to the lineup. Oh well.

Pairwise Situation

MFan in Ohio has been ably summing up the situation on the message board. Michigan actually dropped after Friday night's action thanks to a weird confluence of factors seemingly designed to play up the PWR's flaws: a bunch of not very good teams won or lost to fall above or below the .500 RPI mark that makes teams a TUC. They did this in just the right fashion for Cornell's TUC record to be momentarily very good, and Cornell took its comparison from Michigan based on that and the 3-4 games they've played against common opponents. Cornell is almost 300 points back in RPI.

Order was restored on Saturday, and with just one weekend left you can run scenarios out the wazoo. The worst-case chalk scenario (all higher seeds win except M going 0-2 at the Joe) still sees Michigan finish second; the worst-case-period scenario (UMD, BU, Miami, and Cornell win conference tourneys) sees Michigan finish in a three way tie for fifth. If Michigan beats BG in the semi they'll finish in a tie for third.

Upshot: Michigan has to both blow it as hard as possible and have every opponent within striking distance do as well as they can to lose the top seed.

As far as draw goes, I have no idea. One set of results sees Michigan drawing #4 seed Cornell in the first round; others have Cornell a strong two. The PWR is a jittery thing.

It does seem like Michigan has a solid shot at getting another Atlantic Hockey champ despite not being the #1 overall seed. For that to happen, the following must transpire:

  • Two CCHA teams must be one seeds
  • Two CCHA teams must be four seeds
  • Michigan must be the highest-ranked CCHA team

In that case the committee has no choice but to match the CCHA teams up against the other folks and hand the not-very-good AH champ to Michigan. Your wicked hangover from that one year Michigan played Air Force suggests this may not be the absolute best thing in the world, but… well, yeah.

That is likely to happen if Miami beats Michigan Saturday. It's a consolation prize.

As far as the league goes: Miami, Michigan, and Ferris are solidly in. Ferris and their all-world goalie gave up a billion goals to BGSU and ended up not making the Joe; they're a solid two seed. Western Michigan and State are on the bubble. Both are in unless there is a bid stolen.

One will make it unless two bids are stolen this weekend; that team will be State unless WMU wins the CCHA. In that case State can be knocked out with a single stolen bid.

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March 12th, 2012 at 12:24 PM | Flag Deployment (Score:4 Normal)
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The current idea with the Yost flag is to have him staring down the opponents during the "Who cares?" bit and act as sort of an intimidating factor, with everyone not under the flag continuing to use newspapers and continue that tradition. If anyone has ideas on different useage, we'll happily listen to them.

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March 12th, 2012 at 12:49 PM | This Is Yost (Score:2)
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I liked the "This Is Yost" chant on Friday (didn't hear it on Saturday though). 

Good querstion about when to deploy it:

* Perhaps it would be better during the time after the national anthem when the teams huddle around their goalies and then as the opposing team skates to their bench.  Of course, the problem is that the band plays during most of that time, so the "This Is Yost" chant won't be heard.

* Absolutely, of course, during the playing of The Yellow and Blue after the game.

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March 12th, 2012 at 1:38 PM | Suggestion (Score:2 Informative)
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How about before and after each period when the teams enter/exit?

Have him stare down with his look that is both approving and knowing of Michigan and "I'm coming for you bro" to the other team.

Beyond that, displaying it for goals that don't involve another flag works too.

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March 12th, 2012 at 1:46 PM | The band playing The Victors (Score:2)
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The band playing The Victors during each entrance/exit would make the first suggestion slightly difficult. As for goals not involving another flag, it's a possibility.

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March 12th, 2012 at 12:38 PM | lewan? (Score:1)
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lewan paid for the arizona flag?

cue rosenberg squawking about some sort of ncaa violation in 3...2...1..

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March 12th, 2012 at 12:40 PM | No, (Score:3 Normal)
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but he did plead for it!

The world looks better through maize mirror tint. 

Still waiting on backup.

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March 12th, 2012 at 12:42 PM | whoa. (Score:1)
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reading comprehension problem, there, just brutal.  sorry.

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March 12th, 2012 at 1:21 PM | Any discussion of "missed" national championships (Score:3 Normal)
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should included these names:

Comrie

Cammalleri

Tambellini

Komisarek

Cogliano

Johnson

I suspect there are other guys I'm forgetting who left before their senior season to go pro.

If some of them had stayed through their senior season, I think Red would have at least one more NC. I know all programs have to deal with this, but It's hard to believe there's another program that has lost top players on such a routine basis.


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March 12th, 2012 at 1:45 PM | I'll throw in Mike Van Ryn. (Score:2)
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I'll throw in Mike Van Ryn.  I'll also mention Mark Mitera's blownout senior season knee didn't help matters.

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March 12th, 2012 at 4:51 PM | Porter/Kolarik, anyone? (Score:2 Normal)
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Porter/Kolarik, anyone?

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March 12th, 2012 at 5:19 PM | But they stayed for their (Score:1)
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But they stayed for their senior years, and led a freshmen-heavy team on quite an amazing run.  (Also, they are my favorite Michigan hockey bromance ever.)

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March 12th, 2012 at 5:24 PM | What about Montoya?  His (Score:1)
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What about Montoya?  His leaving meant that we got Sauer before he was ready, I think.  (Also, him and Tambellini left at the same time, right?  That didn't help.)

I think the team genuinely missed Pacioretty more than they missed Johnson.  I remember after Johnson left some players implied that there was a much better atmosphere at practice and in the locker room.

Then again, Nystrom *stayed*, and that didn't help.

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March 12th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | Notre Dame: Some good, more bad (Score:2)
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They play good defense, but often don't seem to even try to get anything going offensively.  For that reason, I don't agree that they "dominated large stretches" of the Friday game -- they had one good spurt that led to their only goal, but their other "good" stretches of that game consisted of keeping Michigan from getting anything going.  I'd like to give our defense credit for that -- and Pateryn, in particular, did play really well -- but mostly it looked like Notre Dame's main "goal" for the weekend was to keep Michigan in check and hope for a 1-0 victory.  All in all, my conclusion is "meh" -- sorry for that technical jargon.

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March 12th, 2012 at 1:54 PM | Any opportunity I get to say... (Score:1)
GoBlueGladstone
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...suck it, ND, I do. It's tangential to the whole of the post, but nonetheless most incredibly satisfying.

Suck it, ND.

"Godfather III? Never heard of it."

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March 12th, 2012 at 2:11 PM | Guh, I was at that Air Force (Score:2 Funny)
M Fanfare
Joined: 08/17/2008
MGoPoints: 1560

Guh, I was at that Air Force game in Bridgeport. It's like my Vietnam. You don't understand man! You weren't there!*

*All caveats about a college hockey team losing a game obviously being not remotely as bad as a war and the resulting PTSD apply.

Hail to the college whose colors we wear,

Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!

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March 12th, 2012 at 2:23 PM | I Was Not There in Bridgeport (Score:1)
VAGoBlue
Joined: 01/02/2011
MGoPoints: 494

But had tickets for the Frozen Four in DC.

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March 12th, 2012 at 2:36 PM | My dad and uncle were there (Score:2)
CleverMichiganR...
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Joined: 07/18/2008
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And I was at regionals (wooo) and the Frozen Four (sigh) last year.

The world looks better through maize mirror tint. 

Still waiting on backup.

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March 12th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | I agree (Score:2)
Center Ice
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Body language said it all. The first goal Summerhays was challenging high in the crease, after that he played the rest of the series with his blades on the goal line

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March 12th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Well put, dear leader. Making (Score:2 Insightful)
Sons of Louis Elbel
Joined: 11/21/2011
MGoPoints: 342

Well put, dear leader. Making the tournament that many years in a row says more than a few unexpected losses in a single elimination format.



(But it'd be nice to get Red a couple more titles before he retires.)

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March 12th, 2012 at 4:04 PM | Flag Q (Score:2)
Feat of Clay
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Joined: 08/10/2009
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Do you have to sneak those things in, or does everyone look the other way, or it is openly okay?  Just curious about that.   That yost flag is amazing.

 

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Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
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March 12th, 2012 at 6:47 PM | No one at Yost seems to care. (Score:2)
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No one at Yost seems to care.

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March 13th, 2012 at 12:14 AM | Other venues, (cough Frozen Four cough) however, (Score:1)
CleverMichiganR...
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have given us problems for just signs and newspapers.

The world looks better through maize mirror tint. 

Still waiting on backup.

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March 16th, 2012 at 2:09 AM | Haven't had any issues (Score:1)
mbrown339
Joined: 02/08/2012
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They've never bothered me and I've brought in big stacks of newspaper and a bike seat and post...

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March 12th, 2012 at 4:55 PM | Almost broken in 2010.... (Score:1)
rstanek
Joined: 04/09/2011
MGoPoints: 9

I feel the need to mention that a lot of credit goes to the 2009-2010 team for their amazing streak at the right time in the CCHA tournament to keep both the CCHA semifinal appearance streak and NCAA tournament appearance streak alive.

I'm sure there were other years when the streak was in danger of being broken, but that's the biggest one recent memory.

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March 13th, 2012 at 1:54 AM | They deserve a lot of (Score:1)
VictorsValiant09
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Joined: 04/05/2009
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They deserve a lot of credit.  I was in attendance for much of that stretch run, including the games at Munn and the Joe.  Watching us demolish MSU in their own piece of crap building, and then taunt them about it, was one of my absolute favorite sports memories.

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March 13th, 2012 at 12:57 AM | (No subject) (Score:3 Normal)
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Joined: 11/22/2009
MGoPoints: 327

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