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The new Yost. Photos from inside the barn during its renovation:

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The visual effect of those windows won't be as huge since games are invariably played after the sun goes down. It should be interesting all the same. Where do the NCAA/GLI banners go now?

(Via United States of Hockey)

Pipkins back on the field. The scare was only that. I have a good source who says it was just a stinger.

More Mealer. The Daily revisits Brock Mealer's ongoing recovery, finding this sign provided by Tom at Barwis Methods:

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He's getting married. Article is a dust factory, be warned.

You guys should put together a banner. ND's secondary is verging on Never Forget territory with yesterday's news that projected starting quarterback Lo Wood* was lost for the season with an achilles injury. This leaves Notre Dame with two players on their roster who were recruited at CB. They've got a few more converted types.

The Irish Illustrated guys believe they won't move starting safety Jamoris Slaughter($) and will probably turn to true freshman KeiVarae Russell, a 3.5 star player who most sites ranked as a tailback (but did think he could play corner). Slaughter moves down to the nickel for them, FWIW.

*[Who you may remember as the nadir of Michigan's recruiting success against the Irish; Wood maintained Michigan as his leader for months before committing to Charlie Weis and Corwin Brown in June of 2009.]

Extra crispy? The Bylaw Blog thinks Oregon will get hammered by the NCAA for a blatant violation of the NCAA's prohibition against "impermissible scouting services" since Penn State means new era and the rest of the membership isn't afraid of getting nailed on vague technicalities since the NCAA now has a clearinghouse for permissible services. Intent is not relevant here:

What it means for Oregon is that even if the NCAA never proves that Oregon’s coaching staff intended the purchase of Lyles’ recruiting service to get them access to prospects or had much contact with Lyles, the school could still face severe penalties. All the enforcement staff might need to prove is that Oregon paid for a recruiting service that did not meet the requirements. The fact that prospects connected to the owner of the recruiting service enrolled at Oregon would be an aggravating factor.

Legally, the case sets up poorly for Oregon. Politically, the case sets up even worse. Oregon’s alleged violation can easily be cast as something most people want to stop: paying off a third party in order to secure a recruit’s enrollment.

I'm not hopeful but Infante knows this material a lot better than I do.

Adorable moppet is probably a part of a gang that smokes pipes and plots the overthrow of Kaiser Wilhem. State of Oklahoma, what is up?

Cooper_MichT[1]

Young Cooper Barton wore his favorite Michigan shirt to Wilson Elementary in Oklahoma City and was told it violated the Oklahoma City Public Schools dress code and was asked to turn the shirt inside out. According to the dress code, students are only allowed to wear Oklahoma, Oklahoma State or apparel from another Oklahoma-state school. …

"They should really worry about academics. It wasn't offensive. He's five," Cooper's mother Shannon Barton told News9.com. …

According to the television station, the dress code was created in 2005 as part of a way to rid schools of gangs and gang apparel.

Sounds like someone high up in the food chain of the Oklahoma City school system has a burr up his butt about Texas. Or this five-year-old passes for witheringly intimidating in Oklahoma.

Life imitates terrible jokes. Ace told you that camp sleeper commit Channing Stribling is "blowing up," as the kids say, after a strong two-way performance in his opening game of the season. But Tom just posted an article at Wolverine Nation($) that contains.. well:

“I see more Ohio State fans in my area than anything,” he said. “My pizza man came by and saw I had my Michigan shirt on and he said he was an Ohio State fan and yelled, ‘Go Buckeyes!’ ”

I don't even to know how to add anything here.

Etc.: STUFFING THE PASSER. Gasaway has an insider article on ACC/Big Ten Challenge opponent NC State($). The Daily breaks down the hockey roster. I am extremely dubious of Guptill anywhere but the top line, but otherwise solid. Smart Football on packaged run/pass concepts. The NCAA is considering radically altering the structure of football staffs by allowing non-coaches to find and contact players. I'm not the only person who doesn't like Dave Brandon's vision for the AD.

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:13 PM | I'm assuming (Score:5 Normal)
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Wood is a cornerback and not a quarterback

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:13 PM | Keep up the good fight, (Score:5 Normal)
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Keep up the good fight, Cooper.

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:30 PM | Brandon's ever-so-contrived marketing is (Score:2 Normal)
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irritating as hell in almost every case, but I do like the patches (although like #1, I don't necessarily think they should always be issued).  The patches promote the history and the brand without the obvious item (read jersey) to jam down our collective throat at $90 a pop.  Only down side I see is how a future "47" or "98" or "2" will happen now that the players who would become "legends" revert to former legends' numbers for their last year or 2.

 

We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness.  This is Michigan.

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:32 PM | They always said (Score:4 Normal)
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Quickest way to get a buckeye off your porch is to pay him for the pizza!

GRwolverine73

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August 21st, 2012 at 7:34 PM | Was it Dominos Pizza? (Score:3 Funny)
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 Wonder where the pizza was from? True irony would have the delivery guy work for Domino’s or even Little Caesar.  /s

                                          

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:33 PM | There's a kernel or two or three of truth... (Score:5 Normal)
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...to the Rothschild/Cook critique of Brandon but the level of opprobrium leveled his way here continues to be off putting. I think (hope) they learned their lesson with the uniforms last year and we'll be able to settle into a more stable time with fewer changes to the (historically) oft changed road jerseys. And legends jerseys may seem like a cheap trick to some, but it sure seems like a more effective way to honor Michigan greats than a no longer viable jersey retirement program. The other stuff is pretty much weak sauce. UTL and The Big Chill? Come on, people.  

LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | @MGoShoe

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:58 PM | My biggest issue with Brandon is the Jerseys (Score:3 Normal)
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He's said that he wants "WOW" moments, and so far those have worked well. But how many of those "WOW" moments can they do? If we do a night game every year, each one can't be some variation UTL XI!!! until we get bored. Opening the season in a few years will be interesting for sure... but there have been other things he's done too. Don't get me wrong, the new scoreboards are great, new Yost looks great, new Crisler looks great. He sure is doing the big things really well and the coffers are full, but Brandon really seems to be a "Get the base riled/angry" and "get us in the news in any way possible" AD. Cases in point:

The band/Dallas - had Brandon quietly floated the idea of having the band sponsored by boosters I'm sure that he could have got it funded. The band was always going to go, he just didn't want to pay for it. It was in the contract that was signed that our band would be there. It was a dollar issue. And he got it funded, just pissed off some people in the process.

The mascot bruhaha - It was july and he got Michigan on the opening roll of ESPN by making a stink (and doing NO follow up) about a mascot. Again, no harm done, besides pissing people off in the middle.

Ticket Prices/Ads in the Big House - He's done a testing ground for some of this with ads for "events but not Football games". Spring game ads. Big Chill Ads. etc. and he's come out saying "I can't have ads, so your tickets will be more expensive". Fine, I don't want ads, but it grinds people's gears.

Special K - Since the players like the music, whatever, but hire someone who wont play "build me up buttercup" before huge defensive plays late in The Game. The AD has obviously signed off on this.

Jerseys - IMHO we could have a new away football uni every year and I wouldn't care. But enough with the 1 off commemorative jerseys. Including Dallas in our last 13 games we will have worn 7 jerseys. Ridiculous. The UTL jerseys worked. So of course, do it 5 more times!!!!

Again, he's done the big things well, like the buildings and rolling out lacrosse, but he's mishandled a lot too. And mishandling the little things can piss people off .

Oh, and  I forgot this being all over the stadium constantly:

I realize all of these might not be Brandon's call, but he's the AD, he gets the credit and the blame

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:35 PM | The small things. (Score:4 Normal)
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I've said I think he didn't handle the band thing smoothly. Behind closed doors, he'd probably tell you the same thing. Because the PR mess was very un-Brandon-like.

Mascot thing was dumb, but just seeing if people would freak (they did) was probably his intention.

I'm not sure ticket prices is any more Brandon than Michigan. The biggest percentage increases were under Martin. Major price raises AND seat licenses. You're not going to get an AD who's not going to do that.

"Specal K"- I don't know why he continues to get the blame for it, unless it's the fact he hadn't abolished it. (And I'm guessing the majority of feedback he gets likes it). It started because Rich Rod wanted a more fired up atmosphere, and Martin instituted it, not Brandon. If anything Brandon has made it better, because we don't get AC/DC as the team comes out on the field, we get the video then The Victors. And Brandon got the rules changed so the band could be mic'd. But I don't think the blog is ever going to shake its fist and say "curse you Rich for all that RAWK!!" Because Brandon is the scapegoat for all things we MGoDon'tLike.

And the jersey thing WAS too much. We'll see if they keep it more reasonable, or they go back and do it anyway like last year.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:54 PM | he's come out saying "I can't (Score:3 Normal)
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he's come out saying "I can't have ads, so your tickets will be more expensive".

He has? When did he do that? (I'm not attacking you; I just don't recall him saying that at all.)

I agree with some of the criticisms of him, but I think they're a little harsh in this article. His "marketing instinct" may lead him astray at times, but give him some credit - he has listened to the fanbase on a few controversial issues, like the mascot, band trip, and Ohio game scheduling. The athletic department has not always functioned that way.  There was certainly no fan input into the infamous "halo," for instance.

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August 21st, 2012 at 6:03 PM | I Am In The Minority Here (Score:1)
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But, I like ITBH! Certainly better than half the stuff, e.g. Buttercup, Sweet Caroline, Journey. There is a cult of negativity around this song. And, BTW, Brandon knows more about traditions at Michigan than 99% of MGoBloggers. Get off his case.

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August 21st, 2012 at 6:55 PM | Buttercup and Sweet Caroline (Score:3 Normal)
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Buttercup and Sweet Caroline may not be sweet awesome rock songs, but they're happy and fun to sing along with, making them better than In The Big House.  And don't think Journey is better?  You must be a terrorist, or 12 years old.

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August 21st, 2012 at 9:54 PM | This is Michigan Football! (Score:1)
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Not happy and nice sing-a-longs. Sesame Street???

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August 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 PM | Sure (Score:2)
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They're stadium staples. But it was an OSU 3rd (or 4th) Down play that was going to DECIDE THE DAMN GAME. And to get the stadium pumped and excited for the biggest play of the game, out of the loud speakers comes Neil @$@king Diamond.

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

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August 21st, 2012 at 7:24 PM | oh god (Score:1 Normal)
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not the band... it got done, part of leadership is fixing mistakes and issues. also there was no precedent.

'Cause I Bleed Blue...

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:55 PM | I was about to post this (Score:4 Normal)
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I was about to post this exact thing.  I disagree with everything in the article except the bit about the changing jerseys.  The whole thing seemed a little Snyder-esque to me, as in trying to make a big deal out of nothing.  I see absolutely no problem with UTL or The Big Chill.  Both were huge successes.  There's nothing wrong with advertising.  No one would have cared nationally if it had just been referred to "the first night game in Michigan history," and to suggest as much is absurd.  That game probably got as much hype as The Game in 06 despite having two modestly ranked teams rather than the number 1 and 2 ranked teams in the country.  I'd say that was pretty much a genius move by Brandon.

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:34 PM | Channing Stribling ... (Score:2 Normal)
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...had better order from another pizza joint from now on or he may find toppings on his pizza that he didn't order!

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:40 PM | Coolers are used to keep things (Score:2 Normal)
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hot as well as cold. 

We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness.  This is Michigan.

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:48 PM | I (Score:5 Normal)
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I am still at a loss to determine just what exact tradition David Brandon is killing at Michigan

Unless its the tradition of doing nothing while getting old and boring

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:55 PM | the tradition would be (Score:5 Normal)
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you have the same gameday experience your father had, and his father had, and so-on. when you can bring in two Arena Football teams and provide the same gameday experience as you do Michigan, it's a problem. 

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August 21st, 2012 at 4:58 PM | The only problem is that very (Score:5 Normal)
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The only problem is that very little about life 100 years ago would excite kids these days.  People change and so do their preferences.  It's a different time.  Brandon's not doing everything perfectly, and could do a better job of bridging the gap between tradition and innovation, but to suggest that we should have the same gameday experiences as Herm had as a kid is just too stubborn.

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:03 PM | Gotta love it (Score:5 Funny)
JeepinBen
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You've got the 55+ year old suits figuring out how to connect to those crazy kids these days. Reminds me of this:

Only that's a 15 year old joke about 50+ year old suits trying to connect to kids....

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:06 PM | Bud Light Lime (Score:1)
lexus larry
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using DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince to do what?

Larry

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:11 PM | it's not stubborn (Score:5 Normal)
Geaux_Blue
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it's seein there's 100x more risk in changing than there is in staying the same. scoreboards were overdue. hashtags on the field though? wtf is #goblue going to do to generate revenue? i'm fully aware of the CRM potential and blablabla, i'm asking what does impacting the game experience do? it's not boosting ticket sales - UM has sold out for how long? i don't know an ounce of merchandise purchased due to Bieber playing during an injury timeout.

 

it's trying too hard to be the biggest show in Michigan rather than just being Michigan. that bothers me.

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:04 PM | Jet-Pack Man! (Score:3 Normal)
lexus larry
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I still don't know how that made the game experience better or added more "WOW" to the event.  The games are fine with a modest amount of pageantry and sparkle.  Paratrooping/jetpacking the gameball in is fine, but not something anyone I know will point to as so memorable they remember which particular game it happened (10 years from now for jetpack man).

Not disagreeing with you, just a good place to suggest that some of the goofy minor professional league antics, in order to create noise or "buzz," may be ill-applied to Michigan football.

Larry

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:09 PM | i actually fall on your side of the argument (Score:4 Normal)
Geaux_Blue
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i'd rather it just be good ol fashioned football and build my own traditions around that than to have the football change. the fact i KNOW i will hear Call Me Maybe 3x on the way to the game as i walk down State doesn't bother me - it's that i will hear it 3x before the final score is announced that bothers me.

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August 21st, 2012 at 6:07 PM | One of the strange things (Score:5 Normal)
Needs
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One of the strange things that has seemed to happen with the music is the attempt to borrow ... I'm not sure if "traditions" is the right word ... but songs that are well known at other venues and incorporate them into Michigan Stadium. "Build Me Up Buttercup," from Wisconsin. "Sweet Caroline" from Fenway, "Don't Stop Believing" from the Joe, "Seven Nation Army" from European soccer venues, Penn State, and Ohio State.

Maybe this is simply because they work. Even "Build Me Up, Buttercup" had a lot of people singing along, and that at a key moment in a huge game. But it does strip away some of the unique experience of Michigan Stadium and transform it a bit toward "standardized sports venue."

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August 21st, 2012 at 6:11 PM | Agree, and that's probably my (Score:3 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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Agree, and that's probably my biggest criticism of the piped-in music.  At least go for something original.

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August 21st, 2012 at 7:21 PM | Ir'll jump on board with that. (Score:1 Redundant)
M-Wolverine
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They even asked for suggestions. Then as far as I can tell, took none of them. I know I suggested a couple that then became NFL staples.

I think the closest we came was "dynamite", and not be ause it's a classic to be stadium song, but because UTLs was so memorable. But not something that should be pulled out for regular in-game stuff. Rock out. But be original. (Which doesn't mean obscure)

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:21 PM | I thought jet pack guy was pretty cool. (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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It doesn't have to be memorable or a decade. Do you remember what happened in all your pre games when you were a student? Even if it was memorable, there's only a handful I remember. It's not supposed to be historic, just fun for that day. We kep paying more money, getting a little more for it doesn't bother me. But then I want one of those jet packs.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:17 PM | Except you're not having the same game day experience (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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Your father had. You just like to remember it that way. Things have lays changed, we just don't see it that way when it was "our" change.

Quick, when was the last time you threw marshmallows at a game? Things change. Keep the good ones, throw out the bad ones.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:23 PM | Rolls of TP (Score:3 Normal)
lexus larry
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Screaming BS and pointing at the upper classmen.

THOSE were good times!

 

BTW, which marshmallows?  The ones with coins embedded or the soaked/dried rocks?

Larry

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV

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August 21st, 2012 at 7:17 PM | They were! (Score:2 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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I never did the TP, really. But tons of stories from my mom about it.

And yeah, I loved a good 'mallow throw in my day, but I don't really object to them leaving.

It's kinda like the naked mile...when it was a bunch of students (rowers first) doing it it was awesome. When it became the convention for the Midwest chapter of the Internet Perverts Association, its time had passed.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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August 21st, 2012 at 7:17 PM | awesome (Score:1)
Michiganguy19
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so true. Dave is doing most things right

'Cause I Bleed Blue...

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:25 PM | Brock Mealer (Score:3 Normal)
ttifiblog
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That story is really fucking awesome.  Always have a goal you're working towards.  Barwis is the man. 

http://ttifi.blogspot.com/ for interesting vids

http://ttifiblog.tumblr.com/ for interesting pics

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August 21st, 2012 at 6:16 PM | Wow people wanna blow Barwis and RRod (Score:1)
Roachgoblue
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He would have walked at any rehab facility. Brock is the man, period. If RRod was good he would be in Arizona with him.

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August 21st, 2012 at 10:50 PM | Yes.  By the way, who cut the (Score:2)
BlueinGR
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Yes.  By the way, who cut the onions while I was reading that story?

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August 21st, 2012 at 5:45 PM | Someone is apparently still (Score:2 Normal)
NoMoPincherBug
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Someone is apparently still not over the Hoke hiring process. hmm.

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August 21st, 2012 at 6:29 PM | This kid is now my (Score:5 Funny)
Bloodoo
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This kid is now my second-favorite Cooper, behind John.

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August 21st, 2012 at 7:21 PM | Clean my rink! (Score:1)
Roachgoblue
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Same ol' whore with a new dress. That is how I like Yost!

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August 21st, 2012 at 8:20 PM | any state that begins with "o" sucks (Score:2)
solo dolo
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I've never liked a single person I've met from that god awful state. Not one

"I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start."

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August 21st, 2012 at 9:27 PM | Apparently the Oklahoma rule (Score:1)
Galapula
Joined: 12/04/2009
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was made to stop kids from wearing North Carolina State apparel specifically. I guess a major gang from that area wears that school's apparel because that's their color and the NC stands for their gang name.

This crappy article mentions it (sorta): http://www.shannonscorner.com/downloads/Gang_Awareness.pdf

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August 22nd, 2012 at 1:38 PM | Dust Factory (Score:1)
tvaduva
Joined: 09/27/2009
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Haven't heard that before. Well done!

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