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Brian

10/7/2017 – Michigan 10, Michigan State 14 – 4-1, 1-1 Big Ten

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a metaphor for somethin' [Bryan Fuller]

Don Brown is in one of those Progressive commercials where everything gradually turns white, except in his case everything is gradually turning back into Boston College. Someone walks by with a bunch of hockey sticks. Bill Simmons is on the television again. He swears he overhears a conversation about pahking the cah. Maroon filters into his peripheral vision.

On Wednesday at three fifteen PM there is going to be a knock on the door. Steve Addazio is going to walk in and sit down. Brown will summon all his willpower not to jam the nearest pen through his own eyesocket, to claw the power of sight from his face and evaporate from the world of men.

Jay Harbaugh, seated, will wonder if the slight twitch under Brown's eye means anything or if it's just something that happens to men of a certain age. He will not say something about "guys being dudes," and will never know how close he—how close all of us—came to Total Mustache Annihilation. He will tell Brown about Terrace House, a Japanese version of the Real World where everyone is very nice and considerate of each other's feelings.

Thus disabused of the Addazio specter, Brown will resume destroying all that opposes him until the inevitable knife in the back. He tries not to think of Sisyphus, and fails.

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Michigan's main problem on offense is that they are bad at it. This is not a good problem. "Our right tackle sucks" is something you might be able to address. "Almost everyone is not good at football right now" leads to situations like Saturday. I brought up the Law Of Large Percentages Multiplied A Lot, which is something I just made up right now, in a brief twitter conversation with a reporter who wanted people to know one weird thing about Oklahoma football:

That is a weird thing, but it's not as weird as it sounds. If OU was a 10 point favorite in eight games they'd get through unscathed just 12% of the time*. If they were a 14 point favorite they get up to 27%. You have to get up to 17.5—a 93.7% shot at victory!—before Hypothetical OU even hits 50%. The Law Of Large Percentages Multiplied A Lot is that even big ones fall off faster than you'd think.

Michigan's offense has 6-7-8 guys who have to execute on any particular play for it to be a success, and... let's just say many of them are not three-score favorites to do so on any particular play. They are an example of The Law Of Large Percentages And Some Quite Small Ones Multiplied A Lot. The results can be seen in the box score, or the haunted look on the face of a man who replaced ten starters and still has the #3 defense in the country.

And so today the Must brigade is out. "Must" is the worst word in sportswriting for a lot of reasons. Foremost among them is that whatever follows "must" is something so blindingly obvious Marcelo Balboa is probably talking about a replay of it as we speak. He must catch that ball. He must YES WE KNOW I HAVE EYES, AT LEAST FOR NOW, I'M CONSIDERING A CHANGE IN THAT DEPARTMENT, THANK YOU.

I spent most of the weekend trying and failing to get this column done because I couldn't wade into any commentary on the game that wasn't furious and over the top, and immediately made me want to go do something else. Weird shit happens in college football, especially when you're playing your backup QB, and there's a brief second-half monsoon, and on top of that you turn the ball over five times. Various dirt stupid people are now flogging a "Harbaugh is 1-4 versus rivals" thing as if that encapsulates the whole of his tenure, or even his career. Yeah, Michigan had the dumb thing happen on the punt and lost by a literal inch in Columbus last year. If you're ascribing that to something other than chance I cannot help you.

Whatever Harbaugh MUST do he's probably already doing. He has a track record, and he'll either follow that up with more of the same or not. We're oddly locked in: few coaches trying to establish themselves at a new school come with the pedigree that Harbaugh does, so he'll get a ton of time and a bunch of rope and we'll see where it goes. It'll probably go really well once they aren't carrying the baggage of someone else's screwups on top of their base rate.

But I mean, go ahead and yell about how unacceptable everything is, I guess. We are dying to hear about your feelings.

*[This is based on this site's conversion of point spreads to winners.]

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blanket [Fuller]

Known Friends And Trusted Agents Of The Week

-2535ac8789d1b499[1]you're the man now, dog

#1 Mo Hurst. Hurst got to play a lot of three tech this week and went from making good plays that someone else scoops up the glory on to wrecking the interior of the opposition offense himself. The fourth down stop stands out, because Hurst may have induced the fumble from a nervous center; Hurst whooped him anyway and the play was doomed either way.

#2 Lavert Hill. Hill's three PBUs were all excellent plays, and he was in the hip pocket of whoever his assignment was for the duration. MSU had... one open receiver? Maybe two? Lewerke averaged 4.3 YPA. Hill played the largest part in that.

#3 Brad Robbins. Averaged 43 yards a punt in often-difficult conditions and mindblasted the MSU returner on the muff; gave up just ten total return yards on seven attempts.

Honorable mention: Most of the rest of the defense. And... Grant Perry, I guess?

KFaTAotW Standings.

8: Devin Bush (#1 Florida, T2 Cincinnati, T2 Air Force, #1 Purdue)
5: Chase Winovich(#1 Air Force, #2a Purdue) 
3: Mason Cole (#1, Cincinnati), Ty Isaac (#2, Florida, #3 Cincinnati), Mo Hurst (#1 MSU)   
2: Quinn Nordin (#3 Florida, #3 Air Force), John O'Korn (#2 Purdue), Lavert Hill (#2 MSU)
1: Khaleke Hudson (T2 Cincinnati), Tyree Kinnel (T2 Cincinnati), Mike McCray(T2 Air Force), Sean McKeon(T3 Purdue), Zach Gentry (T3 Purdue), Brad Robbins(#3 MSU).

Who's Got It Better Than Us Of The Week

MSU's punt returner dorfs on a bomb by Robbins, muffing it back to the two and setting up a short field that Michigan would use to get their touchdown.

Honorable mention: The first drive was pretty all right until the back-to-back fades.

imageMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Eddie McDoom drops a pass that would have taken Michigan down to the 25 with 13 seconds left.

Honorable mention: Pick a turnover but especially the first two, as they were key in Michigan's deficit by the time the rain arrived. Lewerke scrapes out a late first down because he lands on Michigan players. Michigan gets a touchdown wiped off the board on a Higdon holding call. Most offensive plays.

[After THE JUMP: what would you say you do here]

OFFENSE

Under pressure. I am down with Tim Drevno glaring at this juncture. He got dealt a tough hand. So far he's blown it. He comes in late and takes a flier on Ulizio; Ulizio just got yanked for Bushell-Beatty. More egregious was Michigan's OL recruiting the year after. Despite an obvious, crying need for tackles Michigan took zero—zero zero zero.

They inherited Erik Swenson and dicked around with him until January despite the fact they knew they had no desire to take him. Then they got blindsided by Devery Hamilton's Stanford flip. Replacing those guys was... nobody. Michigan added Stephen Spanellis, who's 100% a guard, and has since played Ben Bredeson exclusively at guard despite the fact that he was supposedly neck and neck with Newsome for the LT job last year. So instead of two redshirt freshman tackle bullets Michigan has nothing but Ulizio and Brady Hoke's leftovers.

Michigan has one highly touted tackle in Drevno's tenure, freshman Chuck Filiaga. Michigan had to know about the looming hole there and they've utterly failed to address it. That goes back to Drevno. Add in the disjointed OL in year three and it might be FCS head coaching time.

Settle in. Bizarrely, in the midst of the game Chris Fowler told the world that Wilton Speight had cracked vertebrae and was out for the season. Tom Van Haaren followed this up with an article:

Wilton Speight has three broken vertebrae in his back, a source confirmed to ESPN.

ESPN's Chris Fowler first reported Speight's injury at the top of ABC's Saturday night broadcast of the Michigan State-Michigan game saying: "Wilton Speight ... he is out, probably for the season. He has three broken vertebrae, he told us." ...

While it's likely that Speight will be out for the remainder of the season, he will be reevaluated six to eight weeks after the injury occurred.

For unnecessary confirmation, a reader forwarded this David Turnley photo along from instasnapbook:

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I got a report that Speight told someone not affiliated with ESPN he could be back in four weeks. I'd assume that the longer projection is more likely to be correct. It boggles the mind that fractured freakin' vertebrae aren't obviously season-ending. Anyway, don't expect Speight back any time soon.

O'Korn couldn't see anything. I don't know how much of O'Korn's tendency to stand in the pocket for four or five seconds before attempting to scramble out was on him and how much was on the wide receivers not getting open. That was the main theme in the passing offense, though: reasonable protection that eventually breaks down on the right side; O'Korn hangs onto the ball way too long. A couple of sacks were four or five seconds in the pocket, and O'Korn has to know that he's not likely to get that much time.

Break glass in case of—*BREAKS GLASS*. If Speight's out for the year and O'Korn continues to struggle the calls for Brandon Peters will be incessant, and I'll be amongst them. Without a radically improved offense this team is topping out as a Citrus Bowl outfit. Time to see what Peters brings to the table.

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THIS IS THE WRONG PERSON TO FADE AT [Upchurch]

I have several problems with you people. Michigan's first drive was going swimmingly until two routes in the corner of the endzone yielded zilch. One was a wheel route to McKeon that was well covered, and I guess that's understandable. The second was a fade to McDoom. Michigan's policy of exclusively throwing fades at people a foot shorter than Zach Gentry is driving me crazy. Fades aren't great in general. Fades at a 5'11" guy who isn't Jeremy Gallon make me want to fade into Bolivia.

At least the Hail Mary went at the right guy:

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[Upchurch]

So we've got that going for us.

Zero QB run game. Other game calling complaints: Michigan had zero QB run game for O'Korn. I'm not asking Michigan to go Denard with him, but at no point did Michigan make MSU even think about O'Korn as a runner. Very frustrating when MSU gets half their rushing yards from Lewerke, and even more so when the second half cried out for various ways to make yards without throwing the ball.

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These guys are too close together [Upchurch]

Next to zero deep shots. I saved the worst for last, but I'm not sure exactly who this is on: Michigan basically did not test the Michigan State safeties in pass coverage. One attempted corner route to Gentry was broken up after it looked like DPJ ran the wrong route, drawing additional defenders—or at least not delaying them. Michigan didn't go after them again, basically for the whole game. What deep shots did exist were on the sideline against the corners; M utterly failed to heed the lessons of the Big 12.

Crawford. He had a play on a deep ball and did not make it, adding to his litany of missed opportunities. Have to wonder if Black could have made a difference here. The continued absence of Oliver Marin and Nico Collins means they're all but certain to redshirt; I guess I can't complain about that because Freshman Wide Receivers Suck, but I am a little disappointed one of them hasn't broken through a battered screen door.

Yes, Brady Hoke is still partially responsible for this. The only Hoke players who are playing more than a very minor role are the two fullbacks, Ty Isaac, Mason Cole, and Patrick Kugler. The quarterback depth chart reads...

  • Generic Three Star
  • Houston Transfer
  • Redshirt Freshman

...because of Hoke.

Michigan's unusual wait to pick up Harbaugh is another contributing factor. Harbaugh brought in a bunch of dudes from the NFL who were picking up college recruiting cold and had to scramble to add a number of guys in three weeks. They added more contributors in that time than Hoke did for the entire cycle. (Wheatley, Gentry, Higdon, and Perry vs Kinnel, Newsome, and I guess Ulizio.) It was still not enough to rescue a tiny class.

DEFENSE

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crunch [Upchurch]

So that's how you stay in contact with five turnovers. The preview projected ten MSU points plus whatever the offense handed them, and this turned out to be pessimistic. MSU had 8 three-and-outs, one of them a four-and-out turnover on downs. They gave up a short-field TD drive based mostly on QB scrambles; they gave up an actual long TD drive that was about half a contested downfield deep ball that was a PBU... and also a catch. A selection of we-saved-this plays got them the rest of the way. One 50 yard run was about the only other thing Michigan gave up until the four-minute drill that got a couple first downs, the second incredibly fortunate.

The second-half D was helped out by the weather and MSU's (very, very correct) conservative approach, but you really can't ask for more. Michigan should have ground MSU down in a field position game for the entirety of the second half and won, but O'Korn's interceptions prevented that.

More Mone. Bryan Mone got his most extensive playing time of the year. He—or another DT—was almost always in there on any manball-ish snap. Mone did well, plowing various dudes back, and that's reassuring for future manball outings and Mone's future in general.

Bush relatively quiet. Devin Bush made a number of tackles at or near the line of scrimmage but didn't have any dramatic backfield plunderings. For the first time this year he was held off the stat sheet aside from tackles. It'll be interesting to see whether that was tactical from either team, a manball effect, or just one of those things.

FWIW, the PF he got was total crap; even if he deserved it he'd just been punched in the face and at worst it should have been offsetting. The offsides at the end was painful. I mean, sort of. It would have been more painful if it seemed like the offense could score in the next sixty years.

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no sir [Fuller]

Lavert Hill headed towards excellent. Hill had three PBUs, each of them excellent. The most excellent may have been a zone snap where he was in cover two and fell off the short route, breaking up a 15-ish yard throw that otherwise would have been a first down chunk. He had another on a deep corner route on which he was in the WR's hip pocket and provided zero window.

There were a few open MSU receivers short in zone stuff and one a bit deeper—he dropped it. Other than that, nothing was open. Brandon Watson kinda sorta got beat on a ball he got his hand on; that's the second time in two weeks that's happened to a Michigan CB. Makes you wonder why Michigan isn't trying to get similar chunks when nothing else is working.

No sacks, barely. Lewerke was dragged down fractionally behind the line of scrimmage a couple times but the official box score had those as zero yard runs, so Rashan Gary did not get credit for a sack when he flung down Lewerke with one hand.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Got one? Probably. Given the trajectory of one MSU punt and Jared Wangler going nuts afterwards I think Michigan got their first punt block of the year. Unfortunately it was one of those that goes 22 yards instead of –22 yards, but that's life, especially in this game.

Hartbarger was seemingly uncomfortable on a couple more, with some uncharacteristically short punts.

Never return kickoffs. That is all.

MISCELLANEOUS

The ministry of silly runs. Chris Evans had occasion to do this in a football game:

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[Upchurch]

Football is weird.

HERE

Best And Worst:

But this game felt like 2001, or 1990, or even 2015, games where Michigan State was more lucky than good. That doesn't mean MSU didn't play well enough to win, only that these weren't dominant wins by superior teams like (sadly) they were against Hoke's and RR's teams. MSU needed 5 turnovers (and none of their own), a backup QB, a torrential downpour, and a QB being stopped short after a fumbled snap yet sliding on his falling center's leg to barely hold on against Michigan, and while that's usually how underdogs win games, it doesn't point toward sustained dominance in this series by the Spartans.

Bill Connelly pointed this out in his Five Factors post this weekend: MSU had a turnover margin of +4.8 above their national average, which works out to about 24 points of "bad luck" by Michigan. Michigan lost such a game by 4 points, and had a chance on the last play to still pull it out. It always sucks to be the team that has the luck go against it, but this loss still feels different. MSU tried to give this game away, and they nearly did with poor clock management and even poorer self control. This loss, as bad as it is in the moment, feels like 2015, a stumble but not a fall. I don't put too much stock into tides or narratives, but this rivalry is starting to feel like it did during most of my youth, where MSU wins were notable because of their weirdness and not their dominance. And I think the other half of that equation, the scarcity of Spartan victories, will follow soon as well.

You can also keep up with Michigan alums playing in Japan:

Devin Gardner led the Nojima Rise to another high scoring victory, this time besting the Lixil Deers 38-35 at Amino Vital Field.

Mario Ojemudia recorded a sack on the opening series of the game for Nojuma. Starting from their own 42 after the subsequent punt, Gardner drove the Rise down to the Deer 11 yard line, and a field goal made it 3-0.

ELSEWHERE

Nope!

Comments

The Man Down T…

October 9th, 2017 at 4:34 PM ^

I noted in the game that EVERY FUCKING fumble the opponent makes seems to just pop right back their hands.  I'm still pissed at the one at Purdue where the dude fumbles and is tumbling on the ground but the ball hits his hand and sticks...  In this game, the QB drops the ball, it hits his feet and stays.  He picks it up to get the first down.  I mean come fucking on...

 

Meanwhile every time we fumble it scoots across the grass right to the defender.  Every time.  

 

For fuck sake, can we get some fucking breaks on the funbles??  lol

runandshoot

October 9th, 2017 at 12:39 PM ^

There were at least 10 different threads after the game about how unacceptable everything is/was and how everyone should be fired. Not to mention the hot takes of what Harbaugh needs to do right now, or they will stop being a fan, forever and amen.

WorldwideTJRob

October 9th, 2017 at 2:15 PM ^

Most threads were not about him being fired, they were about having 2 weeks to prepare and the team looked like that! They got outcoached Saturday night, and most ppl were shocked that could happen to this staff by Dantonio and his crew. I love the hire of Jim Harbaugh, but we have to stop acting like he is above criticism on this board. Higdon gained positive yards on all of his carries late, yet he still gave carries to Evans and Issac who weren’t nearly as productive. MSU sent pressure the whole game, yet there was a lack of screen passes and draws. Some read option plays to take advantage of O’korn’s legs would’ve worked too.

ST3

October 9th, 2017 at 12:13 PM ^

After 5 games, our QBs have totaled 2 KFaTAotW points, which is another way of saying, "Michigan's main problem on offense is that they are bad at it." Blergh.

gbdub

October 9th, 2017 at 12:14 PM ^

I think Michigan needs a dedicated OC whose primary qualification is explicitly NOT an NFL pedigree. Consider the defense: Mattison and Durkin are talented coaches, but our defense has upgraded the last two years because Harbaugh went out and got the best college coordinator out there, who is an expert at stopping the kind of offenses we actually face.

And yeah, the lack of deep shots was annoying. At least Speight seemed moderately comfortable taking (and hitting) some of those. I think with Speight this game looks like the Wiscy game last year - lots of sludgefart, but Speight hits one or two deep balls when we really need it and we pull out an awkwardly close win.

Louie C

October 9th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^

This NFL buddies thing is getting old and is erroneous. Drevno has been with Harbaugh pretty much every step of the way going back to his USD days. Hamilton was also on the staff at Stanford and took over OC duties when Shaw became the HC. So yeah, while these guys do have NFL experience, this notion that Harbaugh kept the band together to form a decidedly schematic advantage over the ranks of college football is false. If anything, it points to him being loyal to a fault, and the need to reevaluate some things on the offensive side of the ball.

True Blue Grit

October 9th, 2017 at 2:12 PM ^

From the outside looking in at this offensive coaching staff, the organization of responsibilities is very unorthodox.  It may be a case of too many cooks in the kitchen and it's leading to a disjointed gameplan.  And why have two different guys coaching the OL?  

If this season continues to go poorly for the offense, Harbaugh should likely rethink how he has his offensive staff set up and try something different.  

stephenrjking

October 9th, 2017 at 12:15 PM ^

Michigan's offense seems ill-suited to inexperienced guys, at least compared with spread outfits. The windows are tighter. More has to go right for stuff to work.

And stuff is going wrong. Prominently on OL and at QB, though things aren't great at receiver either. This is not the bare bones route tree you find at Baylor--receivers have to read defenders and react. They're not doing it yet.

But for all that there actually is more simplicity in this offense. I'm not sure if it's just because things are limited or because the coaches have consciously chosen simplicity, but it's there. The OL isn't doing nearly as much different stuff as it did last year. My hope is that this will pay off in years two and three of Frey (hopefully as the sole OL coach) as the guys that are repping zone become precise and accurate in their blocking, every play. 

Surprised that Brian doesn't bring up the WR coaching issue here, as the podcast suggests people are thinking about it. We've got these great tools, but they need someone to train them to refine those tools. DPJ's sideline catch attempt was a very freshman moment: He wasn't using body control to keep his feet in bounds while trying to make the catch. Instead, his first foot down was almost a yard OOB. 

He needs a coach teaching him that stuff. Looking back at Chesson's senior year regression, I think Chesson missed someone working on body control with him, too--he never developed his body positioning here. Crawford and McDoom seem to have available ceiling that isn't being exploited, either. 

This is a problem that needs to be addressed ASAP. We've brought in a great cast of receivers. Squander their development and you won't get guys like this coming here again. 

All this griping and I think this is a growing pains loss, not a world is ending loss. We were always going to lose a game like this in 2017. 

blueinuk

October 9th, 2017 at 12:46 PM ^

Totally agree with the 'growing pains' comment.  It stinks to lose to MSU.  It doesn’t mean the coaches are idiots and the future is bleak.  As fans, we always want to sacrifice long-term success for immediate satisfaction.

My thoughts after the game were:

We simply don’t have a great QB yet. 

We are not going to change scheme for O’Korn b/c we are building a system and are developing younger players into it.  Switching schemes for 6 or 7 games is short-term thinking. 

We are not great yet, but should be good enough to beat all but the best competition with where we are at the moment.  But we are not good enough to have a -5 turnover margin against that kind of competition and still win.

Reader71

October 9th, 2017 at 12:53 PM ^

Michigan’s offensive personnel are just not suited to good offensive football. Do you want Onwenu and Ulizio or Beatty trying to scoop people? Not me. Do you want to take our decent tight ends off the field and replace them with more receivers? Not me. Do you want to run O’Korn, making us one injury away from having to change the offense back to a non-running QB system to suit Peters? Maybe, but probably not. Do you want to simplify the offense to the point where it becomes that most common of fan complaints — predictable? Not me. We don’t have players who in their current state can build an offense with anything resembling consistency. It sucks But scheme isn’t going to make it better and a different scheme isn’t what the coach was hired for or excels at.

Reader71

October 9th, 2017 at 2:49 PM ^

I know you’re not serious, but I’ll answer seriously. Because they have contracts. They did pretty well during the previous two seasons, so Michigan didn’t feel the need to terminate the contracts. Those contracts continue for some time, and in order to have success in the future, they have to coach the current players so as to maximize their improvement. I’m also not saying we are doomed. Unless you mean it in the neutral way, meaning fated. In that respect, we are doomed to an inconsistent offense. But with our defense and special teams, we will have chances to win a lot of games. The offensive coaches will have to try to manufacture enough points to win those games. I hope they do! But they aren’t trying to build the greatest show on turf, here. This will not be a good offense, no matter what. But if they score 17-20 points somehow, with fits and spurts and some big plays and maybe some good field position, they will have a shot in most, if not all, games. And as you know, we play to win the game. Also, don’t be such a quitter. People get cancer. Most don’t just say, “What’s the point of doctors? If it’s doomed no matter what why pay all this money to doctors?” Well, you need that organ, just like we need an offense. It might not be a very good one, and it might only give you a fighting chance, but it’s worth trying to do something about it. Also, I think the rules mandate coaches, but I could be wrong.

1VaBlue1

October 9th, 2017 at 12:53 PM ^

It's not that we lost, its how and to who we lost that rankles.  Mistakes are fine - run the wrong route occasionally, miss a block, have a sieve at RT...  Those things people can live with.

Regress in OL play despite the RT swinging door?  Regress in QB play - both last years starter and the B/U?  Regress in play calling by losing all pretense of doing something the defense is giving you?  Absolutely REFUSE to take what the defense is giving?  Go away from the first drive play calls because of a fumble?  Absolutely REFUSE to pull back the offense in a monsoon, and continue to let your QB throw interceptions?

That is why I'm pissed, not necessarily because we lost...  Losses happen - sometimes the other team just plays better.  But that wasn't this.  This loss was preventable.

1VaBlue1

October 9th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^

Yeah, they seem to contradict, I'll give you that! 

In the first half, the defense was taking away the sideline outs and runs up the middle - which is exactly what pregame predictions and tendencies said it would do.  Yet, aside from the opening drive (and the few plays before Isaac's fumble), that's exactly where we put the ball.  The ball never flew to a TE, never tested a safety.  The run game sent Evans into the middle play after play.  In the second half, when the rains came, Evans kept going nowhere.  Higdon was getting yards outside - in fact, they never (well, rarely) ran the ball off left tackle after the opening drive.  It wasn't taken away - they just didn't go to it.  Higdon got most of his yards over the left side.  And in that rain, throwing the ball 20 yards downfield is not smart...  Where was Perry during the monsoon?  If you're going to throw in that crap, at least throw it to your best reciever!

I think we can all agree that the offensive play calling was a steaming pile of poo Saturday night.

Horton Hears a Who

October 9th, 2017 at 3:51 PM ^

This is spot on with how I am feeling. I understand that we are young and there will be "growing pains", but this is game five and the entire offense is trending in the wrong direction. They have been trending in the wrong direction since Iowa last year. Where is the OL development, because I don't see any improvement week-to-week. 

Coaches are responsible for putting the players in positions to be successful. I am not saying that we need to run the spread, but use formations and call plays that best suite your personel. Be creative and try to confuse the defense a little. I was at the game and it literally looked like MSU knew exactly what we were going to call before the ball was ever snapped. It's difficult for WRs to get open and RBs to find holes if the defense knows exactly where the ball is going. 

And for gods sake, please stop playing three running backs. It's like they can't make a decision and stick with it. Do other good teams play three backs so equally? How are these kids suppose to get live reps and better at their craft if they are only in the game 1/3 of the time? UM != NE Patriots. 

 

ColoradoBlue

October 9th, 2017 at 12:17 PM ^

But I mean, go ahead and yell about how unacceptable everything is, I guess. We are dying to hear about your feelings.

 

Man - if this doesn't sum up this place in last 48 hours, I don't know what does. 

ColoradoBlue

October 9th, 2017 at 12:32 PM ^

I try to avoid this place for at least 48 hours after a loss or an "unacceptably" close win.  But I venture back in the hope that the MGoBlog intelligentsia have posted some actual insight or analysis.  But those guys are smarter than me and find other things to do.  I really need to be more disciplined.

Reader71

October 9th, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^

They had fewer yards than we did, and we were horrible. They punted 10 times, which is horrible. They had one sustained drive, same as us, and that’s horrible. Yes, they had a tough job against our defense. But they were horrible, and they schemed horribly. They played well enough to win against our horrible offense. But we had the ball with a chance to win after 5 turnovers and a generally bullshit performance. If we come down with the Hail Mary or if McDoom catches the ball and we win, you would not be arguing that they schemed well offensively. Because you’re a sane person who is just a bit emotional right now. For what it’s worth, I can admit that had we caught the Hail Mary or had McDoom caught it and we win, I would still be arguing that our offense played horribly.

ijohnb

October 9th, 2017 at 12:40 PM ^

disagree.  I think people saying that are creating a kind of a straw man.  Aside from a few drunk people in the aftermath of the game (and literally one today), I haven't really seen a whole lot of people acting unreasonable about this game.  Some people want to call any criticism of Harbaugh unreasonable because they need him to remain infallible, so they are exagerrating the extent and nature of the criticism in order for their responses to sound super smart with all of the clever snark of the true football elite. 

It is a sort of defense mechanism to the fact that the present and the immediate future look pretty bleak right now and that is both puzzling and pretty painful as fans, so people are deflecting their confusion onto external sources.  I think the ones that won't address any of Harbaugh's shortcomings so far are the ones most confused and the least able to rationalize what they are seeing.  This loss lit our narrative on fire so some people are modifying the discussion in order to try to maintain it.

 

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bo_lives

October 9th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^

Our offense is bad. We have a dearth of good O-linemen, no star RBs, and inconsistent QB play. There is reason to be alarmed regarding our outlook against Penn State, Wisconsin, and OSU. I love Harbaugh and t's asinine to imply he is on any kind of hotseat, but 2017 looks pretty bleak at the moment. We saw a lot of these same problems in the early season and there has been little to no improvement so far.

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gbdub

October 9th, 2017 at 12:59 PM ^

I don't know, there's an awful lot of MUST and UNACCEPTABLE and NO EXCUSE FOR and 1-4 AGAINST RIVALS even in this and the podcast thread.

CompleteLunacy

October 9th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

Brian pointed out something that I have in oher threads. Harbaugh is an inch and a once-in-a-million punt fiasco play away from 3-2 against rivals. I don't know how you can put so much blame on Harbaugh for that rather than randomness and "shit just happens, man". I mean, it fucking sucks, but it also doesn't make Harbuagh some no-talent assclown who gets outcoached everytime he goes up against Dantonio and Meyer. It's not some fundamental issue with his coaching.

bo_lives

October 9th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^

The other being the Iowa game last year. Those two previous losses against OSU/MSU were relatively hard fought coin flips against good teams. But Saturday revealed that Harbaugh's staff is still pretty clueness as to how to use their few offensive tools effectively. The similarity to the Iowa game is significant--the run game limped toward just 2.6 ypc (compared to 2.8 ypc against Iowa). They failed to get any production through the air as our previously competent QB suddenly looked like a deer in the headlights (16/35, 5.7 ypa and 3 INTs vs. 11/26, 4.0 ypa and 1 INT).

I just don't know man. At some point the run game has to progress so we don't have to rely on having Andrew Luck as a QB for our offensive firepower. In all 7 of Harbaugh's losses the team has rushed for 2.8 ypc or worse. They obviously are not going to win many games rushing for under 2.8 ypc, unless the QB has a near flawless performance.

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CRISPed in the DIAG

October 9th, 2017 at 1:19 PM ^

JFC. I don't need him to remain "infallible."  It's odd how we told ourselves the entire offseason - with reminders from the national media - how young and susceptible we are to games like saturday's shitshow. 

Of course Harbaugh deserves criticism for offensive underperformance. He'll fix some things to get through this season or he won't. We may see another weird loss and we'll likely have our asses handed to us by one or two better teams. Again, this wasn't unexpected.

But ignoring the amount of luck it took for MSU to win this game seems equally "confused" as opposed to a "deflection" a "rationalization" or "defense mechanism."

ijohnb

October 9th, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^

thought we were going to lose to Michigan State.  Nobody.  To classify people who believe this loss to be a significant stain on Harbaugh's record as "dirt stupid" is ridiculous.  If this game did not make you do a little bit of a double take in terms of your expectations than I am not entirely sure what game you were watching.  Harbaugh has done well here and should not be fired nor should it be discussed that he is on the hot seat.  But that was one hell of a dud he fired on Saturday.

CRISPed in the DIAG

October 9th, 2017 at 1:34 PM ^

Even if that's true, you'll have to expand on this.

I think there were many people here saying the only thing that can stop Michigan in this game - pre-existing shortcomings and all - is a shit-ton of turnovers. Guess what happened?