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Per MGoBlue:

The Michigan-Notre Dame football series will resume on Sept. 1, 2018, when the Irish host the Wolverines in the season opener before a Oct. 26, 2019, date at Michigan Stadium.

As the previous post notes I'm surprised that it's at ND in 2018, from the perspective of both teams. I'd rather have ND on the schedule than Arkansas no matter which team gets a home date. Meanwhile having the ND game 2019 in the meat of the conference schedule is odd. Michigan has Penn State before that game and Maryland after.

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SpikeFan2016

July 7th, 2016 at 12:46 PM ^

I agree it's kind of shitty, but we do get the two biggest programs from the west in Nebraska and Wisconsin at home in 2018. As well as Penn State, who could maybe have their shit together by then. But this does suck. Is there any chance of us getting MSU switched (home in 17 and 18) or not?

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HenneGivenSunday

July 7th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^

Interestingly, if he could get JD to force MSU into 2 straight games @Mich, I'd feel suddenly quite a bit better. Too early to tell, but this doesn't look great. It looks desperate as hell. Paying $2mill to Arkansas also sucks. I know, "chump change" but it didn't need to be done IMHO.



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Blue_In_Texas

July 7th, 2016 at 12:12 PM ^

Good put them on the kill list. By that time we will be a finely tuned wrecking ball. Coach Harbaugh is Azor Ahai, the prince who was promised, returned to save the world from darkness and destroy our enemies. 

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N. Campus Tech

July 7th, 2016 at 12:44 PM ^

Notre Dame fucks up our schedule when they break up with us, now Warde lets them fuck it up again when they come back. Grow a fucking spine, Warde. I swear, I hope there is more to the story than the ND calling Warde up and saying "Hey, our strength of schedule is weak with USC being in the shitter. We're restaring our regional rivalry. Clear your schedule. Oh, by the way, we're restarting in South Bend." What are we getting in return exactly?

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N. Campus Tech

July 7th, 2016 at 1:56 PM ^

Only in regards to the Conference schedule. Our Non-confernce schedule being wacky is due to ND cancelling on short notice, and then Brandon trying to fill the holes (hence the one-off neutral site game against Florida)

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MichiganSports

July 7th, 2016 at 12:16 PM ^

Wow so the deal got even worse.  Playing them in the middle of the conference schedule is an absolute joke.  The scales on this deal were ridiculously weighted towards ND, we look like absolute tools.

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FreddieMercuryHayes

July 7th, 2016 at 12:16 PM ^

I would totally rather have a home game against Arky than away at ND. Love the ND game but don't need them enough to get the schedule boned. A home game against an real SEC school is great to boost a playoff resume and one UM is likely to win against Arky.



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Trader Jack

July 7th, 2016 at 12:31 PM ^

No, it won't be "far better." All that matters is getting through the season with as few losses as possible. ND on the road is much tougher than Ark at home, especially when grouped together with all of those other tough road games. If we lose twice, nobody is going to care that our schedule was tough.



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Trader Jack

July 7th, 2016 at 12:39 PM ^

I'm not trying to have it both ways at all. I've been pretty vocal about my belief that it doesn't matter who we play at all, it just matters what our record is re: getting into the playoff. Where have I said that it's better for our strength of schedule, or even that it's good to have a schedule as tough as our 2018 one is now?



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FreddieMercuryHayes

July 7th, 2016 at 12:35 PM ^

Exactly. Having Stanford left out of the playoff this year in favor of Oklahoma and MSU just confirmed, again, that no matter what they say about schedule strength, wins and losses are all that matters no matter who it comes against. UM has enough big games and a conference championship they'll have to play that the only thing that matters is winning all your games.



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Trader Jack

July 7th, 2016 at 2:29 PM ^

But they didn't beat Northwestern, and the fact that they played a hard schedule didn't matter to the committee. This is what some of the fan base doesn't understand. If we go 12-1 and win the big ten it won't matter who we played. The playoff committee isn't keeping a Michigan team that only lost 1 game, won the big ten title, and beat OSU out of the playoff. The only way we're getting left out is if we lose twice, which is why adding a road game at ND in 2018 makes no sense.



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SpikeFan2016

July 7th, 2016 at 5:44 PM ^

It didn't matter to the committee because they had TWO LOSSES.

 

I wouldn't want Michigan to get in with 2 losses. Never in the history of ever have 2 loss teams been considered eligible for a national championship. And rightfully so. 

 

You're argument is "I don't want to play hard games because we might lose."

 

That's the epitome of anti-competitive cowardice. Harbaugh would be ashamed of you. I'd rather play a tough schedule, lose twice and get in the New Year's 6 than play a weak schedule and get exposed in the playoff.

A win in a New Year's 6 bowl is better than an uncompetitive loss in the first round of the playoff. 100%. 

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FreddieMercuryHayes

July 7th, 2016 at 1:10 PM ^

But that's my whole point.  2 losses get you boned.  Unless you're a 2 loss SEC team I imagine.  Stanford was the best example of this in recent memory.  TCU got boned because their conference (Texas) was stupid and forwent a conference championship team.  Stanford played 9 conference games plus a conference championship game.  Went on the road to a B1G school that won 10 games and lost.  Their second loss was to Oregon when they actually had Vernon Adams.  They played a really tough schedule, and played well, and had a lot of great results.  And their reward?  Left out of the playoff in favor of a worse MSU team who fluked into 3 wins. 

So when everyone talks about SOS being important, I'm not hearing it.  All that matters is that you don't lose more than 1 game and you win your conferece (unless your the SEC).  That's apparently ALL that matters.  We as fans like to see great games between great teams, but if you want your team to have the best chance of making the playoffs, just do what OSU does under Meyer: play no difficult non-cons and get your 1-2 feathers in the cap during the conference season.  They learned their lesson duing the Tressel era when they scheduled truely difficult non-con games a few times that they didn't pull out and it cost them a shot at the championship early.  To make the playoffs give yourself the easiest road possible.

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N. Campus Tech

July 7th, 2016 at 3:01 PM ^

OSU under Tressel played in the BCS championship 3 times (2002, 2006, 2007), winning once (2002). 

They had three seasons with losses to tough non-conference opponents (2005 v #2 Texas, 2008 v #1 USC, 2009 v #3 USC).

In 2005 OSU also lost to PSU. Undefeated Texas played undefeated USC in the NC game, so OSU would not have played anyway, since they had a conference loss.

2008 OSU lost to PSU and split the B1G title. It's debateable that OSU would have been selected ahead of the other one loss teams, since PSU would have the tie breaker. (This is the season that PSU, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Alambama and Florida had one loss. OK lost to Florida in the championship game.

2009 OSU lost a conference game to Purdue (Danny Hope's first year). Alabama and Texas were undefeated and met in the championship game.

In conclusion, the early season losses appear to have no impact on OSU's chances of making the championship game during the Tressel era.

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