Notre Dame Resumption Official
[Eric Upchurch]
The Michigan-Notre Dame football series will resume on Sept. 1, 2018, when the Irish host the Wolverines in the season opener before a Oct. 26, 2019, date at Michigan Stadium.
As the previous post notes I'm surprised that it's at ND in 2018, from the perspective of both teams. I'd rather have ND on the schedule than Arkansas no matter which team gets a home date. Meanwhile having the ND game 2019 in the meat of the conference schedule is odd. Michigan has Penn State before that game and Maryland after.
@ND, @MSU, @OSU is garbage scheduling
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...is awesome scheduling?
It is for season ticket holders. Not so much in 2018, howeva.
For 2019, it is.
I mean, sure, it will suck in even years, but in odd years, we will love it.
I don't like playing ND in late Oct during the heart of the B1G season.
And I certainly don't like playing them on the road to start the season in 2018.
I dunno, this scheduling seems a little desperate to me.
We don't have to play ND. And we certainly don't have to play them in 2018 / 2019 if the scheduling is a problem. Which it is.
Seems like we could have worked out a better deal.
I think the deal is horrible. We should have gotten the first home game in the series since ND had the last home game.
Arkansas really didn't move the needle that much for me personally but a 2018 home slate of Arkansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Penn State is certainly better with Arkansas than without.
2019 season ticket sales will break records though.
Under this scenario which doesn't make much sense for us, could the schedule have gone down the way it did with ND eating some or all of the Arkansas $2m buyout?
Bring back Arkansas!!!
Does the spirit of DB still infect the offices at the athletic department?
Or, is Michigan so desparate to play ND that it will agree to anything?
Complete bullsh1t.
Hope the AD greased up well beforehand. Going in dry can be rough.
what do you expect when now operating from position of weakness? Manuel cannot make miracles.... it'll take a few more years of Harbaugh until we undo many things that went awry.... Including Ohio recruiting....
I was in favor of adding ND back to the schedule until I heard we'd be at ND first. Terrible negotiating, terrible for season ticket holders, terrible our team has to play in South Bend twice in a row, terrible for our title chances every other year. And M pays $2mm to make it happen.
There have been some grumbles about Manuel previously but I feel he's mostly done a good job to date. This is his first major blunder.
That is, unless Ward has secretly gotten sparty to play back to back years in Ann Arbor...
Yeah I'm all for playing ND again but this is just dumb. I'm more concerned about the ridiculous home road alternating years. I don't particularly care where we kick their ass. Then again I'm not a season ticket holder. Why not push it back one year?
This is embarrassing. Warde went to ND on his knees begging them to take us back.
Seriously. Two ND games in a row, lose a high profile home game, make the playoff chances worse, lose money, and put ND in the middle of the season in 2019. I thought we were done getting fucked by our rival's AD's. After Red, I'm not sure how I feel about Manuel right now. This just pleads of desperation on UM's part. And UM is not desperate. Have one of the best coaches in the business and a decent non-con already lined up. It would not be difficult to make good non con games.
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Serious question:
Is anyone really afraid of playing at ND? With Harbaugh, I fear no team. Michigan is going to be really good this year and beyond. I'm not sweating this at all. I think it's bad scheduling, but I'm confident about a win so long as Jim is the coach.
HELL NO
Really id be more scared of another double at msu or a double at osu than this..
Ps, best part is bert saying he'll have a satellite in cabo with the money.
Of course bert will goto cabo.. please Jim, dont reply. Bert made himself look like enough of a drunk turd here. If you do choose to reply, please just post the bert shirtless photo and leave it at that.
Thx..
Dead on.
If this was Brandon that did this we would be apoplectic.
Well there have been like 500 comments in the various posts about this.
this is try to UNDO Brandon's work...
This is hyperbole. And this, "Michigan is losing face" argument is bullshit. How is this a condemnation of our AD? He got ND back.
all due respect, who was really desperate to get them back? We had Arkansas, Washington, Virginia Tech, Oklahamo, Florida, and f-ing Texas on the scehdule through 2025. We were not having any problem scheduling good out of conference games and home and homes. I would like a little ND here and there but why shoe-horn it in there like this?
Arkansas isn't a good game first and foremost. And Michigan - ND is a historic rivalry that supersedes all those games in terms of visibility, excitement and meaning. I'm glad the players get their shot a ND. It's part of what coming to Michigan has been about.
Not true. The two have played, what, 47 games total? It's a great rivalry that doesn't need to be played every year. Wards fucked this up. Totally.
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However, like others have pointed out, from a season ticket holder and difficulty of schedule, it makes for alternating tough years/crappy home schedule then easier years/great home schedule, etc. Would rather not do this feast or famine bit.
I don't really care who they play at home. I'll go to the games and I'll enjoy them.
OK.
You're one of few that don't care what the cost of the ticket is or how that compares with the teams. You apparently don't care about the difference in difficulty it is for the football team, which you are there to support, between having the toughest games all away or all home.
From my experience, the people who care the most in these situations are the season ticket holders who buy tickets so that they can pick the 1-2 games they want to see and sell the rest to cover the cost. I don't think those people are who Manuel is thinking of when facing the prospect of seasons without enough home games to balance the budget.
The majority of the season ticket holders will not select 1 or 2 games to attend... We attend them all and if we can't attend a game, we give the ticket to a friend... A Michigan fan buys season tickets to go to the games!!!
What you are describing is not a Michigan fan but rather someone attempting to supplement their income.
He is describing someone who is dumb enough to get reemed for season tickets, but smart enough to sell shitty game back to make up some of the cost.
It's done all over the country, y every fan base. Doesn't make you a better fan because you're willing to sit through a game against Eastern Michigan or Rutgers in on some beautiful fall 20-degree, rainy day in Ann Arbor.
Yes it does. Fuck you.
Our players work incredibly hard for months to play in front of us a mere 7 times per year. If you have tickets and have the ability to go but don't, you're a shitty fan. The atmosphere and community of the Big House is one of the biggest reasons all of us fell in love with Michigan anyways. And I will support the team regardless of weather and if it's a blowout, as long as I'm able to.
Not going to games because you have other commitments is fine. But not going because "oh it won't be a good game, oh it's cold, I'm just going to sit home", is stupid.
FTW!
Those are my sentiments exactly.
Some of the tickets I've had, in all the years since I first got season tickets in '77, haven't been the most attractive, exciting matchups---but I still go and support our Michigan Football Team and NEVER EVER leave early, missing just a small, small handful of games over those 38 years
I've sat thru many a lousy weather day, driven in some gawd-awful conditions, and watched some heartbreakers as well as blowouts (not to mention Kordell Stewart and Cleveland Gary and various OSU villians, plus The Horror and Toledo), But has it been worth it to me? HELL YES!
Am I happy with what these sudden scheduling developments mean to an already out-of-balance schedule? No, but it won't stop me from continuing to attend every Michigan game I possibly can. It's not like I have any control or influence on how schedules are put together anyway...
I prefer going to road games. seeing us in South bend is great
If the head coach approved the schedule I'm cool with it. Beating those teams on the road would be quite an accomplishment. Better to look at it half full.
If Michigan - ND is such a historic rivalry that supersedes other games in terms of visibility, excitement and meaning, then that should be true for ND too.
But all it looks like is that we are the only ones with skin in the game. If it means that much then ND should be doing more to accommodate it, not just Michigan.
It seems ND wanted it just as bad as we did. The scheduling in not necessarily indicative of want. It could be due to many other factors.
If they wanted it that badly, they would do something accommodate it. Not just us.
I don't see them eating $2M. I don't see them playing at our place twice in a row. I don't see them . . . doing anything.
It's a 2 way street. But all I see is one-way desperation.
I wanted ND back too, but only on terms that were favorable to UM. UM doesn't need to capituate to another school for a headline game. UM was having no trouble lining up other good non-conference games without ND.
that I think about it, we did need to capitulate to ND to get a Mike Tirico game as soon as possible. Perhaps there is a method to the madness here after all.
EDIT: No, it does not look like Tirico is calling ND games. There is just no logic to be found here I guess.
Yes, It stinks that we're playing our three rivals on the road the same year, but I'd guess we asked for this, and here's why.
Given the 9 game conference schedule, we now alternate between 5 home / 4 road and 4 home / road conf games per year. 2018 is a year we have 5 conf home games (PSU, Wisc, IU, Maryland, Nebraska), so it's easier to have a non-conf road game that year.
If we played home vs. ND in 2018, we'd only have 6 home dates (4 conf, 2 non-conf) in 2019, which I'd guess is out of the question.
That's my best guess as to why it's going down this way.
this seems like a good explanation
+ 1 Insightful.
Warde or not, it's still all about the Benjamin's.
I'm not sure I buy that this was THE reason we went with that schedule, but it makes sense and mitigates the suck factor.
and they fucked us again when THEY took us back. This is like your ex wife who cheated on you takes you back provided she gets three nights out a week with the girls while you babysit.
And she's not even hot anymore.
ND owns us.
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