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Brian

3/5/2017 – Michigan 93, Nebraska 57 – 20-11, 10-8

This is not a game column.

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[Bryan Fuller]

God DAMN, Derrick Walton. There was a point last night where Derrick Walton took a terrible shot with verve and élan and it went in and I was neither mad at the shot nor surprised at the outcome. The rest of his night was on that level: 18 points, 16 assists (a program record), 5 steals, and... sigh... one rebound. Walton missing a triple-double because of insufficient rebounds is a killer.

Also killer: Derrick Walton. He is now taking those Chauncey Billups transition pull-up threes and I love them even when they do not go down. He is efficient inside the arc for the first time since he was a freshman, and he's doing Trey Burke things, and he's making himself a verb. If I say a senior has "gone Walton" you know what I mean. Not that anyone is likely to have such a transformation again.

I have gotten in the occasional twitter fight with Minnesota fans who are arguing that Nate Mason should be first-team All Big Ten, and I would just like to state for the record that any such assertions are insane homerism. The only thing Mason has on Walton is volume, and that volume is underwhelming: he's shot 268 twos at a 38% clip this year.

Well then. Michigan's 36-point road annihilation of Nebraska ends their regular season and confirms Michigan as one of the weirdest teams in the country. It also conjures a hypothetical: would you rather be a nine seed that plays like a six or a six seed that plays like a nine? The former team wins a lot of blowouts and drops close games; the latter wins a disproportionate share of close games.

Being a six seed that isn't quite as good would feel better. Michigan is the nine because of their record in games decided by five or less: 3-6. Last year's team was 6-1 and still slid into Dayton. Also last year's team finished the year losing six of their last nine. Michigan's inverted that, albeit in a much worse Big Ten.

So either nearly the same crew of players went from super clutch to not clutch or this is a much better team that doesn't look like one record-wise because their point distribution across games was suboptimal.

An illustration. Nobody really doubts Michigan's sea change on defense anymore. Nonetheless, Nebraska provided an easy before-and-after photo for Beilein: the game at Crisler in January was in the immediate aftermath of the Maverick Morgan White Collar Incident; Michigan won a barn-burner 91-85. Nebraska shot 59% from two and 50% from 3, with Tai Webster torching Michigan for 37.

Yesterday, Webster was held to 8 points; Nebraska shot 53% from 3 and was just 2/15 from three. Ace and Alex have mentioned this before and it bears re-emphasizing after a game where Michigan gave up just 15 attempts from behind the arc: a big part of three point defense is keeping them from being launched in the first place, and Michigan is suddenly very good at that.

A selection of team D stats from last year to this year, with major shifts bolded:

2016 2017
Adj Efficiency 95 85
EFG 248 234
Turnover Rate 188 90
OREB 47 173
FTA/FGA 17 40
3PT% 173 311
2PT% 264 205
FT% 315 64
Block% 308 237
Steal% 198 150
3PA/FGA 218 10
A/FGM 193 32

Michigan's now slightly better than they were a year ago because they've offset big declines in rebounding and three-point percentage allowed with more turnovers forced, better free throw D (high five!), and a severe restriction on opponent threes. Even last year's team, which was dead last in the league in 2PT% D and right on the NCAA average for 3PT% D, gave up more points per three attempted than per two.

Obviously this is not a complete picture of the value of two-pointers since you're much more likely to draw free throws inside the line, but in case you've missed the last 20 years of basketball it remains the case that three is more than two even in extreme environments. Michigan's closeout competency surge is the biggest effect of hiring Billy Donlon: Michigan has never (never!) been in the top 100 in that stat under Beilein, and now they're in elite company.

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[Fuller]

Why Michigan's rebounding has declined is a bit of a mystery. It's mostly the same crew playing with the exceptions of DJ Wilson and Mo Wagner. Those two guys are replacing either wing types or Michigan's 2016 centers, who were Mark Donnal and Ricky Doyle. Both of those guys had DREB rates barely over 10%. IE: they were not good rebounders. I maintained last year that Doyle was good at boxing out while letting others grab the ball; Ace theorized that Michigan's stronger closeout game has taken guys away from the basket.

Dunno. Area for improvement next year.

The volume of shift. Ace didn't want to round this and I don't either. Michigan's defense post-Nebraska-torching: 0.998 points per possession. That's a 12 game sample against much better competition* than the bad old days and would have been fourth in the league.

Perspective: Michigan's D improved just as much as Derrick Walton did after Maverick Morgan.

*[That ugly five game stretch to start the conference season is even uglier when you consider that it came against five opponents who were #3, #8, #11, #12, and #13 in offensive efficiency.]

Don't look at it. Use your peripheral vision. Zak Irvin's miserable stretch ended after the Indiana game. Since then he's been middling, hitting 53%/35% from the field on third-banana usage and helping Michigan's team-wide defensive renaissance. With Walton emerging as the team's alpha dog and Wagner either running things inside or throwing entire defensive systems into disarray ("Let's switch bigs on to Walton" –Tim Miles), third-banana, doesn't-dribble-out-half-a-shot-clock, zero-hero-ball Zak Irvin has re-emerged into an asset. Even if there's like one or two hero-balls in there.

Also in post-Maverick surges. MAAR is quietly the sixth-most efficient player in conference play. There was a point midseason where everyone seemed pretty mad at him, including Beilein. That seems like a long time ago, what with MAAR shooting 56/49 in Big Ten play, with many of those two-pointers difficult late-clock takes to the bucket when Michigan can't get anything else going.

One of the key questions on next year's offense is "how does MAAR maintain his efficiency at much higher usage?" He's at 17% now and will probably tack on 5% next year—that's a big leap. Pretty well if he just up that assist rate, I think. MAAR's done something pretty difficult for a guard: his career shooting percentage inside the arc is higher in conference play than it is over the course of the season, for three straight years. The kind of shots he gets are good ones.

Graham Couch time! It's been a minute since we checked in with the only beat writer on the planet who thinks Martin Luther King Day is for lazy people. It takes time to regather yourself after such a take and find the next thing you're going to be spectacularly, inanely wrong about. Couch rises to the occasion:

COLLEGE PARK, Md. – If Michigan State is left out of the NCAA tournament this month, MSU’s non-conference schedule next season should be a who’s who of the SWAC and MEAC, with a couple mid-level MAC and Missouri Valley Conference teams sprinkled in to give the illusion that competition matters.

MSU is in line for a bid mostly because they successfully gamed the RPI by losing to good teams. That's how they're one spot behind Michigan in that metric despite a 25-spot gap in Kenpom, two fewer wins, and the same conference record. MSU beat one nonconference team of consequence, Wichita State; Michigan beat Marquette and SMU. MSU also lost to Northeastern. The only reason to project those teams at or near the same seedline is because the NCAA is still relying on the archaic RPI, and the RPI has rewarded MSU for losing to good teams.

What would the SWAC-and-MEAC schedule do to Michigan State's RPI? Annihilate it. The worst thing you can do as a college basketball team looking to game the system is play teams ranked 300+. Graham Couch's argument is "if the NCAA puts MSU in the NIT, MSU should throw a fit... and put themselves in it." I can't let this zinger languish on Slack:

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Comments

UMQuadz05

March 6th, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^

Easy jokes aside, I've read arguments that you can improve that stat by fouling "better"- big men who are about to score (and who don't shoot FTs very well) vs. cheap fouls on shooters. 

I have no idea if Michigan is actually doing this, of course, but it's possible and would make sense in the larger picture.

MGlobules

March 6th, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^

The mgoblue highlights are a little shrine to him. The effortless passes, the spin on the ball, attest to someone emerging as a very special player, Zen master of a system that, when it hums, hums like no other in college bball:

http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/030517aaa.html

Watch at the 1:20 mark how he builds bumping into the NB player into his attack, letting the ball go rather than committing the foul, picking it up another third of the way down the court to drop it off to MAAR. Genius on the fly. 

It's a cruel sport, but we won't have B1G refs and we'll be on neutral courtt (much of the time, anyway). I want to see us go deep just to keep watching Walton. 

P.S. Zak's re-emergence is a very good sign. 

WBALLZ

March 6th, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^

Has made me realize that I don't use the term 'hamblasting' in conversation enough. Thank you for showing me the error in my ways.

TrueBlue2003

March 6th, 2017 at 1:14 PM ^

it is very odd that we're worse than last year, given the personnel changes that would seem to be an improvement.  I think it's a bit of noise though.  We only allow opponents to rebound 2.7 percent more of their misses this year than last.  That's pretty small: about one more OREB per game given up.  

I think Ace is correct that it's paritally a result of contesting more shots, both threes and twos.  DJ ends up helping a lot on dribble drives given up and it's led to more blocks this year and lower opp 2pt% in conference play, but has probably also led to a few more Kobe assists (the Jordan Murphy OREB dunk in OT against Minn being the most painful example).

I also think that Wagner and DJ aren't great at blocking out, which is all about postioning and getting wide.  They both give up too much ground to the likes of JaeSean Tate and other beefier guys.

Michigan4Life

March 6th, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^

it's more about positioning and knowing where the ball going to fall when it's not going into the hoops.

Andre Drummond doesn't box out yet he can get 10 rebounds.

FWIW, I've talked to a current D1 college coach who coach for a team that is very good at rebounding. He said that boxing out really doesn't matter when a player have instinct and timing plus leaping ability.

TrueBlue2003

March 6th, 2017 at 5:41 PM ^

"instincts" and timing and leaping ability then it is less important.  If you don't have guys like that, and we certainly didn't last year with Donnal and Doyle, then blocking out will help your defensive rebounding.  

Also, blocking out and positioning are the same to me - like I said it's all about positioning.  Put yourself in a position where you have a much greater chance of getting the rebound than your opponent.  Athleticism and leaping ability is more "overrated" when it comes to defensive rebounding than positioning.  Ask Kevin McKale, Bill Lambeer, etc.

Michigan4Life

March 7th, 2017 at 12:18 AM ^

they tend to be great leaper and have long arms with great instincts for the ball. They really don't box out at all. Look at top 10 rebounders in the NBA, they're long, athletic, can leap plus have great instinct for the ball.

NBA Top 10 rebounders by avg:

Hassan Whiteside, Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan, Dwight Howard, Rudy Gobert, Karl-Anthony Towns, Anthony Davis, Marcin Gortat, DeMarcus Cousins and Russell Westbrook.

Common Denominator is they're all great athletes with the exception of Gortat. Athleticism matters when it comes to rebounding.

By positioning, I mean going where the ball is going to go after the ball hits the rim. You can box out but if you don't have good positioning, you're not getting a rebound. Boxing out and positioning are two vastly different things.

Boxing out can be good but if you're out of position, then it's useless because you're not getting the ball.

TrueBlue2003

March 7th, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^

the common denominator, without exception, is that these guys are all big, tall and defend underneath the basket which naturally puts them in the right position - between the hoop and their man - to get defensive rebounds.

The reason most of the guys you listed are athletic is because that matters for defense and shot blocking and offense, etc.  Athleticism is way overrated for defensive rebounding alone.  All other things equal, of course you'd rather have an athletic guy.  But in the absense of that, you can still be an elite rebounder and not be athletic, if you're big and use your body the right way.  Ask Charles Barkley - the round mound of rebound.

For guys like Doyle or Donnal, who aren't going to grab the ball off the rim, it's usually better for them to just cancel out their guys (who are inevitably more athletic) and let others clean up, like Walton.  You have to know what kind of personnel you're working with and coach accordingly.

This D1 coach said blockign out doesn't matter as much if you have instincts, are athletic, etc. I don't disagree that if you have Dennis Rodman that is going to vacuum up every rebound, you might not need to coach him to block out.  But for the vast majority of guys, including the ones that usually play for us, you better get positioning and keep your man off the boards.

SHub'68

March 6th, 2017 at 5:29 PM ^

At different times, I watched all three of our bigs turn on a shot and position their body between a guy and the basket. But without any real aggression to wall that guy off from the ball. So as Mo, or DJ, or Donnal kinda stood there, the guy behind them slips in front of them and takes the ball. If he boxes that guy out, or stays between him and the ball, it doesn't happen. Call it positioning or whatever, we're pretty terrible at it.

mGrowOld

March 6th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^

"...play teams ranked 300+. Graham Couch's argument is "if the NCAA puts MSU in the NIT, MSU should throw a fit... and put themselves in it." I can't let this zinger languish on Slack:

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If you insult someone and they either dont understand it or think it's a compliment does it still count as an insult?

CRISPed in the DIAG

March 6th, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^

Pretty sure they don't get it. So it doesn't count. But it makes me laugh anyway.

It's like when OSU used to sing that song about "not giving a damn about the whole state of Michigan." I didn't feel the zing. But I guess if they were entertained, where's the harm?

 

AlwaysBlue

March 6th, 2017 at 1:53 PM ^

Had Walton been playing at this level all season it's certain that Irvin wouldn't have been handling the ball as much as he was forced to on many nights.  Now that he's able to assume the role he's better suited for he's looking better and better.

TrueBlue2003

March 6th, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^

did not have to do with Irvin's shooting, I don't think.  Because there was also a lot of talk about encouraging him to keep shooting and he was never benched despite continuing to shoot poorly.  The talk about benching seniors, it sounded like, had to do with effort and playing not smart for the middle stretch of the season.

bronxblue

March 6th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^

The 3pt defense change is huge, obviously, but even on the micro level, seeing Duncan Robinson block multiple 3PT shots in the last couple of games amazes me. As for Graham Couch, why am I not surprised (a) he's a mediocre LSJ writer, and (b) doesn't understand math. MSU could well finish the season 18-14 with one win against a ranked team. Literally any other program in the conference with that mark would be laughed off the court talking about getting an at large bid.

J.

March 6th, 2017 at 2:20 PM ^

Well, I promise they won't get an at-large bid with 13 losses, since the only way they finish with 13 losses is to win the automatic bid.

As an aside, here are the Ken-Pom era tournament teams with 14 losses:

2011: Marquette (20-14), Michigan State (19-14), Penn State (19-14), USC (19-14), Tennessee (19-14)

2008: Arizona (19-14)

Clearly, the 2011 bubble is soft.  The 2017 bubble also seems to be soft, as the matrix currently includes Michigan State and Syracuse, both with 13 losses, and Vanderbilt, with 14, and the First Four out include Iowa and Illinois, also with 13 losses apiece.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if Michigan State is left to sit home and mope about how the teams they lost to were much better than the teams that, e.g., Illinois State beat -- but it'd be a gigantic surprise.

J.

March 6th, 2017 at 2:08 PM ^

As long as the committee continues to use RPI, Michigan State is in.  Their résumé, while not good, is better than a lot of the other bubble teams'.  On this morning's bracket matrix, there are 8 (!) at-large teams, plus Middle Tennessee, below them in the bracket.  Sure, they would drop down a rung or two with an opening-game exit from the Big Ten tournament, but not 8+.

TrueBlue2003

March 6th, 2017 at 4:35 PM ^

They're 48th in RPI.  50th in kenpom.  They probably are right around there in terms of quality.

I'm not sure why there's this narrative that losing to good teams has helped them (it hasn't hurt, as it probably shouldn't, but it's not why they're getting in).  Their non-conference RPI is 72 which is poor and about right because they only beat one of the many good teams they played and they lost to Northeastern.

They're dancing because they went 10-8 against a tough big ten conf schedule including two wins over Minnesota, a win over us, Wisconsin, Northwestern and even Iowa looks solid now.  This crying about gaming of the RPI or Izzo love as the only reason they'll be dancing is a bit embarrassing from us.

There aren't enough teams objectively better or more deserving to keep them out. The bubble is filled with flawed teams, many of them more flawed than MSU.

J.

March 6th, 2017 at 4:45 PM ^

Well... Iowa is also 18-13.  Iowa has a home victory vs. Iowa State, which isn't quite as good as a neutral-site win over Wichita State, but it's in the same ballpark.  They have a loss to UNO, which is similar -- maybe a little worse -- than a loss to Northeastern.  They're also 10-8 in the Big Ten, and they have wins @Wisconsin, @Maryland, vs. Purdue, and vs. Michigan.

But, Iowa failed to game the RPI sufficiently; their RPI is 72 (KenPom 65), and they're on the wrong side of the bubble.

So, yes, the RPI is helping MSU considerably -- not that it's great; just that it's closer to tournament-worthy than it otherwise would be, given their record.

TrueBlue2003

March 6th, 2017 at 8:57 PM ^

all the ways MSU has a better resume: better best non-conference win, better worst non-conference loss, much better ranking in kenpom, more "good wins", and you still don't see why MSU is ahead of them?  MSUs RPI is better for the simple and correct reason that they have the same record against against a much more difficult schedule!  Which means their combination of Ws and Ls is better in every objective metric, RPI or otherwise, than Iowa's.

Iowa didn't fail to game the system.  They failed to win enough games against the easier schedule they had. You just stated that only through gamesmanship does MSU have a tournament worthy RPI as if all 18-13 records are created equally.

MSU are often the beneficiaries of "gaming" the RPI to get a higher ranking than they deserve, but in this case, the RPI is spot on for them. It's not disproportionately helping them relative to their results.  They're a mediocre team around top 50 in the country and that's enough with a 68 team field.

mgoblue98

March 6th, 2017 at 10:38 PM ^

I can think of 13, and soon to be 14 reasons why MSU shouldn't get in.

I am also very disappointed that there is no mention of the fact that the MSU football team went 3-9 in 2016 in the story or on the message board.  That record includes a win over Notre Dame, who went 4-8.

Year of Revenge II

March 6th, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^

Robinson is a nice player off the bench, particularly when he can hit a few shots, and he is a good passer.

Regardless of whether he managed to block a 3-pt shot or two in the last couiple of games, he is simpy not equipped to be able to play good defense at this level of competition.  He gets A for effort, but he is just too slow too handle athletic players.  He can improve by learning to anticipate and learning to move his feet better, but he is likely to continue to be a big liability on defense when he is in.

You can say the same for Donnal, though he postions and moves his feet a little better, and uses his height effectively for blocks.  Is blocking out better lately when rebounding too.

Robinson's offense is definitely a big asset.  Great shoot if he gets set.  Good passer too.

On the whole though, this team is miles better off of where it was on defense just six weeks ago. Defense is mostly about desire, effort, and mental toughness, and everyone has followed Walton's lead and picked it up.

WE ARE GOING ALL THE WAY!!!

rickjston

March 6th, 2017 at 2:15 PM ^

Why is MSU a 5 seed and UM am 8 seed?  Both teams had identical BI0 records, they split the regular season amd Um has 2 more wins overall than MSU.  They would match up with an ave ILL team rather than Purdue B10 cahmps. 

MH20

March 6th, 2017 at 2:24 PM ^

The tiebreaker is based on H2H record against the four teams tied at 10-8.

In order from fifth to eighth:

  • MSU: 3-1 [beat M, NW, Iowa; lost to M]
  • NW: 2-1 [beat Iowa, M; lost to MSU]
  • Iowa: 1-2 [beat M; lost to NW, MSU]
  • M: 1-3 [beat MSU; lost to Iowa, MSU, NW]