My bad I misunderstood the play the OP was talking about.
We have struggled to get the ball in and make free throws to clinch all season. You foul there we're most likely up 1 with 7 seconds left. We'd already almost lost the game in regulation because of inbounding it. Letting them shoot is a 30% chance and worst case tie. Fouling has worst case as a loss.
It's irrelevant if you lose in regulation or overtime
Even as I was typing it I was irritated, but I think it's still the right call, especially with this young team that's given away so many games.
Those Tigers are lookin' pretty good....Cespedes should be an absolute monster....and I'm really looking forward to Gorzelanny as a great lefty arm in the bullpen. ;)
Well, shit.
This was an impossible game to watch coherently. The team will be really good next year, but hopefully some of the overtime karma comes back in 2016 because this year has been terrible.
is evan turner/ josh gasser level
anyone bitching about Beilein, I'll come at you like a spider monkey... or like coach
over the 2 foul rule if you want to pick on JB.
There isn't another major college coach I can think of who doesn't adhere to this. Is there one?
how about pressing when you are up by two possessions with under 30 sec. at least surprise them every now and then. trap the guy that gets the inbounds pass. then what? he has to pass back to the inbounds passer. that uses up time.
JB never does this. one play had their guard drive the distance, dish to olah for an easy layup - 5 sec. another possession had their guard get the pass, drive the distance, step out of bounds; only 5 more sec. then the bad TO, etc.
press the SOBs and burn some time. JB is very stubborn in a few of his end-game strategies. and it has burned him several times. twice tonite alone.
and Demps lost the ball off his leg, the refs fucked us.
i was at the game near the other end of the court. and i thought that it likely went off his leg with the way it went out of bounds. they did take about 5 min to review it. no replays though shown at the game.
and with that donkey's arm stuck on auto-point in favor of the home team, we were screwed. I really think that ball was off of Demps. I saw replay after replay and that's what I saw (although perhaps a blown up replay would show different, but I saw what I saw).
Still made it no less unfathomable how we blew each successive opportunity to close out the game, although that one would have probably also done it.
Brutal all around. Still in a foul mood because of that one. I'm sorry you had to be there to suffer through it in person.
In a season of rough losses, this was a rough loss. Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
I give Beilein credit for fielding a competetive team with some players we wern't expecting much from. He does deserve critisism for his late game management, his team's inability to inbound the ball, and his 2 foul rule in the first half. I don't expect them to win every game, but when they play well enough to win I expect them to pull it out or at least not give it away.
Missed the last 10 minutes. How did we lose in soul crushing fashion again?
don't watch it
So more NW clutch and bad calls than anything UM did.
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I'd rather just beat them, you know like every other decent program does in football and basketball.
If Chatman is good enough to play in the 1st half, why does he so rarely play the 2nd? I'm guessing 3 or 4 guys could have used a couple minutes of sitting down.
Also, we all love Spike, but for the love of Harbaugh, please teach someone over 6' how to inbound the damn ball. This was an issue when Trey was still here, so in what warped world do you keep doing it when your PG is NOT the National Player of the Year?
Crazy throwing that away.
Inbounding is amazingly bad for this time of year. So is our clutch ft's. Offensive execution is very hit-and-miss.
But the defense is crazy bad. All zones leave the corner 3 open even without penetration and collapsing. And our man d is pathetic. Our bigs have terrible footwork on d. Rawk and Spike were absolutely brutal on those two 3's they hit to stay alive, absolutely brutal. They seem to fall into rote instead of understanding the context of each situation. All screens trail no matter where or when. Guys need 3's and we back away, trail slowly after them...
Would have given Chatman a bit more of a look in the second. Rawk has to look way more of a threat on o, like he was when he hit his late 3.
Terrible to make that donation.
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length, balance, keeps shooting, hands getting quicker with underrated positional defense.
Great potential as a #2. Already damn good. Weak finisher around the rim.
And he only missed one free throw despite being a 66% FT shooter on the year. Not sure this one is on him...
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Can we really say Beilein truly thought he'd have all those guys in 2015? I mean, honestly.
This is not to say the attrition hasn't been important, but let's not pretend Beilein was ever buildling a program where he thought he'd have every guy to full eligibility until the end of time. That's not today's college basketball.
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True, but I still think there's no way any coach looks at their team in the current landscape and says "yep, all these guys will play out their eligibility." Especially if they're looking at glimpses of talent no one else seems to see. You have to factor for at least some attrition.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure he never had an early departure before he came to Michigan. Now he gets them every year. He did come here in part because he thought he could recruit a higher caliber of player but still, I don't think he could have quite anticipated this.
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zone defense. spread out with center at high post. Attack the middle then kick out or drive for open shot.
I don't think this team zone problems are on offense. The problem is that they cannot cover the corner 3 in either of the zones they run (2-3, 1-3-1). They are bad in man-to-man, but I'd prefer they would just stay in man. Once the novelty of the 1-3-1 wears off, as it does quickly in conference play, it takes a lot of practice to run it effectively (it's more aggressive than most zone defenses). We don't have that experience with it. Our 2-3 is clearly something we very rarely run and hence it isn't run very well. The spacing looks like total shit, even to my untrained eye, and they always seem late in getting it set-up.
The injures have really hurt our man defense. Spike's a very good college player, but Walton was a much better defender. I saw Spike call for about 3 or 4 switches, with different players, during a single 20 second possession in man defense. You have to fight through some of those off the ball screens, especially with a team this young-- freshman are doing all they can just to cover their man, they're going to get confused when you keep switching on the screens. There was another possesion where Chatman looked pissed at Spike for calling for switch (though maybe that was on Chatman, it was tough to tell). I think he's also worse than Walton in helping off on the big. He often helps too late. The bigs are poor defenders, but they're so young and/or undersized that there isn't much more you could reasonably expect. They need good help defenders and there aren't any.
Fuck this season. Bring out the HARBAUGH.
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