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August 19th, 2008 at 1:37 PM
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Yeah it's been such a

Yeah it's been such a wonderful week

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August 19th, 2008 at 1:38 PM
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OH MY GOD

RUN FOR THE HILLS

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August 19th, 2008 at 1:42 PM
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WE'RE ALL GONNA

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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August 19th, 2008 at 1:44 PM
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but we are all too young to

but we are all too young to die.  Charlie hasn't eaten himself to death yet.

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August 19th, 2008 at 1:45 PM
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Look out for the sky!

Look out for the sky!

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August 19th, 2008 at 1:49 PM
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Not cool

I hate my life.

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August 19th, 2008 at 1:51 PM
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see

i told you this would happenn...see....newsome saw that rr started sheridan...so he knows that rr is a liar and isnt adapting his sytem...newsome needs to have a strong confidence in himself...rr is ovvisuly a liar and couldnt provide that...so he is looking for a coach that wont lie to him about systems...he kows rr wil ltry to make him a pocket passer...ebcause he wants to do the opposite of what his players can do...to try and prove he is a good coach...like degree of diificulty challenge....in my movie "i'm a moron 2: electric bugaloo" a boy has to make the same type of decision...he decides to go with the coach who isnt a liar...you laugh at me now but you'll see...in six onths 100000 will agree with what im saying....newsome shouldnt be here anywhay...he isnt a michigan man....he doesnt have the heart....ge has the psyche of a nine year old girl with emotional disorders...he obviously thinks he can jsut waltz in and beat a walk on for the qb spot...id rather have forcier...at least hes white....

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August 19th, 2008 at 1:57 PM
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I always knew that "mild

I always knew that "mild mannered" Dex = evil Mgoblog arch-villian elipses man. 

Re Newsome, shit happens.

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:27 PM
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It never gets old

Hurry up...you're at work so you just want to pour your thoughts onto the screen...

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:10 PM
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i dont know why you are so

i dont know why you are so mean...i jhust have a lot to say...im very important....which is why i can do this...you see...newsome is a pussy...big pussy...hug egaping pussy like the richrobots model...just wiainting for michigans balls....i wrote a movie about it...in it, i amthe balls.., and tim waymen is the vag....in four hours, 3499 peiople will be saying the same thing

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August 19th, 2008 at 1:51 PM
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For what it's worth, I hate

For what it's worth, I hate your life too.

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August 19th, 2008 at 1:52 PM
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Forcier

Certainly opens the door to a more polished passer....

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:00 PM
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we didn't want him anyway

lacked top end accuracy-ness

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:07 PM
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BARWIS BARWIS BARWIS BARWIS BARWIS

I heard he is scared of the running

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:15 PM
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or was it

the weekly blood orgies?

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:19 PM
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NFL

It's because Rich Rod won't get him ready for the NFL!

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:22 PM
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I was really counting on

I was really counting on Newsome because I do not think I could take Shav'd Beaver in the backfield and all of the faux pas of the announcers.

"That defensive lineman is chasing down Beaver"

"Yeah, they've really been hitting Beaver hard this game"

"I think a flag should be thrown.  That linebacker just speared Beaver"

The absolute worse:  "Yeah, Ohio State has been all over Michigan's Beaver today" 

If Mike Cox is also in the backfield, I would have to play all of the games with the sound off.  I really hope Newsome or some other QB commits.

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:24 PM
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tell ninja football

to get those shav'd beaver shirts ready

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:28 PM
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No doubt

What is Michigan's loss can be Ninja's gain.  If it works out, Ninja could retire in a few years.

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:27 PM
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Honestly, this could be a

Honestly, this could be a blessing in disguise.  If Tate signs with us, I think he will be a better player than Newsome.  He seems to really love UM, he's much more refined and although isn't a physical freak like Newsome, he seems to be very athletic.  I'll shoot him an email and tell him to commit.  Is that a violation?

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:32 PM
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FAMILY VALUES!!!!!!

FAMILY VALUES!!!!!!

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:53 PM
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CORVETTES AND WHITE SUITS.

CORVETTES AND WHITE SUITS.

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:58 PM
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This is why I no longer put

This is why I no longer put much effort into following recruiting.  Sure, I'll check the board as it's posted, but for fuck's sake, these are highly influenceable 17 year olds.  Maybe 2 girls offered him a threesome to decommit.  Hell, I'd have accepted that deal.  He just reopened his recruitment, maybe he wants some free vacations.  This has nothing at all to do with his character or whether he would be a good fit for Michigan.

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August 19th, 2008 at 2:59 PM
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So do you think this is tied

So do you think this is tied to the recent offer for instate 2010 QB Devin Gardner?  I mean, the initial wavering he was doing was due to Beaver/Forcier.  Is he just scared of competition or what?  Or is it meddling parents that want him to stay in VA?

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:01 PM
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Or maybe he just made his

Or maybe he just made his decision too soon and had second thoughts? No. Has to be that he was scared of competition or evil parents.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:04 PM
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If he's that indecisive we

If he's that indecisive we don't want him anyway.  If he can't stick with his first decision to attend a school for the next 4 years of his life that will give him a college degree and prepare him for the NFL, then how the hell can we expect him to make the right decision on the zone read?  I think Sheridan can start the next 4 years anyway, guy loves Michigan and is fuckin' scrappy.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:07 PM
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Competition and parent

Competition and parent influences are what I call "second thoughts".  There's a reason someone has second thoughts, just trying to pinpoint his, especially after saying he was rock solid Blue a couple weeks ago.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:09 PM
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But seeing as you can't

But seeing as you can't believe him because he decommited, how can you trust any explanation he gives for second thoughts?

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:26 PM
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I didn't say I didn't believe

I didn't say I didn't believe him.  He's very much allowed to have second thoughts and do whatever is best for him.  I was just curious as to what has changed for him.  Was it an issue of recruiting other guys when he thought he was "their guy" or what?  The only thing that happened between now and the Top Gun camp when he was a firm commit was the offer to Gardner.  Obviously, this is all moot if it's something else like his parents wanting him to be closer to home, friends in his ear, etc.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:03 PM
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Didn't you mean Corvettes

Didn't you mean Corvettes and white sluts?

 And yes, now all i need is Tate to commit and then go blind in a freak guinea pig juggling accident next summer.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:03 PM
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i'm confused

Can I say "THOSE WHO STAY" now or does that only apply to people who actually made it to Ann Arbor?

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:05 PM
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We need to recruit David

We need to recruit David Eckstein, clearly.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:13 PM
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YES!

the first "just scared of competition" allegation. the new site is officially cristened in the genre of scout/rivals boards. it was inevitable.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:29 PM
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Just to clear things up, I

Just to clear things up, I never alleged it was the reason. I asked if it was the reason or part of the reason.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:45 PM
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You're right you didn't. 

You're right you didn't.  But I'd recommend asking the question without the speculation attached.  The speculation makes you look like a garden variety Scout/Rivals person, or a troll.  And since you seem reasonable and able to form complete sentences without falling to "OMG I never said that arghhghg fuck you guys", I think we were overly harsh, sorry.

 Also, if you're scared of competition at QB you either pull a Joe Flacco and go to a D-AA school, or you go to Penn State.  And yes, I know Flacco xferred from Pitt to Delaware.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:59 PM
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I should rephrase "scared of

I should rephrase "scared of competition" to "wants them to stroke his ego".  Since most of us know that almost all D1 recruits think they are going to be superstars in the NFL, they aren't really afraid of competition.  But offering schollies to other QB's if you think "i'm the man.  you don't need anyone else." will give you reason to have second thoughts as you might think they don't trust you and your ability. 

It'll be interesting to see what happens with him....

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:53 PM
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I wonder whether, assuming

I wonder whether, assuming Forcier signs, this increases our likelihood of signing McNeal and other top wide receivers.  How's Forcier's downfield passing?  (I know he's lethal on the intermediate routes, which I love to see in a young kid.)

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:25 PM
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Personally, I love Forcier's

Personally, I love Forcier's highlight films and he's my favorite QB in the entire class. He seems perfect for what I hope our offense will look like, is obviously an extremely accurate QB (in his HS system at least), and although is not a track star, has exceptional game speed and playmaking ability. As far as I saw (not a ton), his downfield passing is pretty good too and he's definitely got arm strength. My only concern is his size...I'm really biased against short/small QBs and he reminds me a bit of Drew Tate from Iowa (hopefully minus the complete mental meltdowns). That is where I'm glad we already Shavodrick, b/c he may be thin now but he can certainly put on weight.

This is all assuming he will eventually commit here and Newsome doesn't re-commit.

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August 19th, 2008 at 3:55 PM
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Assuming the WR's we have

Assuming the WR's we have stay in the fold (and McNeal just dropped all the visits he was planning on taking), I don't think we'll recruit anymore for this class, regardless of who the QB is. Also, I doubt that these kids would base their commitment on Forcier, as it's not a guarantee Forcier will even start - Beaver is rated higher by Rivals.

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:37 PM
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They must've updated this

They must've updated this before you had a chance to look, but Beaver is not rated higher than Forcier by Rivals. Beaver is 8th, and Tate 6th. Scout has them 25th and 12th respectively (and as many already know, they do not separate their D-T and Pro style). Also, based on QB offers, Tate looks like the better QB. Either way, it's definitely reassuring that Beaver seems very solid on his committment.

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:00 PM
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I keep forgetting that Beaver

I keep forgetting that Beaver ranks ahead of Forcier.  TF just seems more ready - the Beav needs a year of eating and lifting with Barwis so he doesn't get snapped in half, at least from the pictures I've seen.

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:02 PM
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I'm just pissed

...because I was on my third season of NCAA09 with Newsome at QB and now I have to go and change his name to Beaver. Minor inconveninces like that really cheese me off.

Good thing I didn't get that NEWSOME 4 HEISMAN tattoo I was planning, huh?

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:10 PM
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I'm ticked off.

There's really not a lot of logic behind this de-commitment.  If Kev is looking at the system RR is attempting to implement this year and concluding it isn't a fit for him, he's just dim-witted.  RR is merely making do with what he's got this year.  Unless RR truly does have plans of running a two-QB system over the next 4 years, and there's no substance to believe he'd do so, Kev has proved only that he is as good at the disloyalty game as RR is.  RR has had two-QB systems in the past, yes, but only over 2 year periods when he's taking over the reigns at a new school.  Newsome was definitely showing to be the starter in 2010...so unless Kev got some info that either Beav is looking amazing, or that Sheridan or Threet are proving themselves too good to leapfrog, he's a moron.  I hope this isn't an omen of what our recruiting will look like into the future.

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:33 PM
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Hold your horses there

Hold your horses there NYWolverine. Unless you know something that we don't know about Newsome, I would ease off on the assumptions. You should read the Mgoblog recruiting philosophy: http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2005/05/mgoblogs-recruiting-philosophy.html

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:44 PM
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Point taken

My last post was a passionate response from a fan who wants and expects the best for this football team.  I'm new to these threads, and unfortunately hadn't fully read Brian's blog philosophy.  I'll dial it down next time, and my apologies for the un-objective criticisms.  Thanks to kgh for the respectful warning.  The truth is, I'm a huge Newsome fan; I think he's smart, comes off confident and strong in interviews, and has phenominal potential in RR's or any system.  But it's my first season watching the recruiting so intimately, so now I know: it is what it is. 

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:52 PM
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kgh10
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Welcome to the boards, most

Welcome to the board, most of us are assholes so don't take anything we post personally. I think we all had a lot of hopes w/ Newsome even with his flaws. Nothing is set in stone, however, and he could still come. If not, we have Beaver and a few guys who could be just as good if not better that might sign eventually.

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:23 PM
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chitownblue (not verified)
"If Kev is looking at the

"If Kev is looking at the system RR is attempting to implement this year and concluding it isn't a fit for him, he's just dim-witted."

This is, obviously a hypothetical. So, you make up an assumption, and then claim he's stupid because of your assumption. No.

"Kev has proved only that he is as good at the disloyalty game as RR is."

How is Newsome disloyal? Is he less loyal than Michael Shaw, JT Floyd, Roy Roundtree, or Ricky Barnum? You're upset with him doing something in his own best interest, and not yours as a fan. And you're one of the guys that still wants Les, clearly.

"I hope this isn't an omen of what our recruiting will look like into the future."

Yes, every recruitment ever will follow the path of Kevin Newsome.

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:41 PM
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chitownblue (not verified)
My apologies - I was

My apologies - I was wrong.

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August 19th, 2008 at 4:58 PM
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mjv
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Losing Newsome =/= Total Failure

Everyone needs to realize that if one single recruit meant the difference between success and failure, we have far larger issues to discuss with the football team. He seems to be a fantastic talent with a brain between his ears.  But the kid needs to do what is in his best long term interest. 

The worst case scenario would have been to have him accept a scholarship, and transfer after a year.  That would accomplish very little for him and leave us a year behind on developing a QB.  (That sounds familiar...) 

I can't fault an 18 year old for changing his mind at this point.  How many of us changed majors or something similar leading up to freshman year or after matriculating?

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August 19th, 2008 at 5:38 PM
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Obvy

It's obvious that Newsome decommitted because of Fera. I'd be afraid of him too, there's no shame in that.

 

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August 19th, 2008 at 6:19 PM
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Well, you know the saying...

"There is nothing to fear, but Fera itself."

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August 19th, 2008 at 8:30 PM
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ameed
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i for one enjoy the humurous

i for one enjoy the humurous branding all of our kicker/punter types

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August 19th, 2008 at 9:47 PM
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JLo
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I was really pushing to get

I was really pushing to get people to call Rivas "Chubbs".  It never really caught on, though... too bad.

"Donuts for field goals!!!"

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