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July 21st, 2009 at 12:40 PM
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New Rivals 100

Sharrif Floyd and Kyle Prater earn their 5th stars. Latwan Anderson is #35 and Cullen Christian moves all the way up from a 3* to #60....now if he would just commit already!

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?SID=880&Year=2010&ra_key=2369

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:45 PM
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- No more Boisture in the top

- No more Boisture in the top 100
- Still no Gardner/Miller/Robinson
- No Eduardo Clements
- Uh wow, Cullen Christian WTF

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:50 PM
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Yeah the

Yeah the Gardner/Miller/Robinson thing still has me surprised, because they were all supposed to be high 4 stars/5 stars. I'm most surprised by Gardner, because he is said to have been dominating at all the camps.

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:16 PM
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Its too bad your not a usc or

Its too bad your not a usc or uf fan because you would be pretty excited that all the recruits leaning to your school all seemed to go up in ranking for some reason.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:43 PM
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*gasp!* Are you implying

*gasp!* Are you implying this is more than purely coincidence?

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July 21st, 2009 at 11:40 PM
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Irish
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why pay the player for 5

why pay the player for 5 years when you can pay the recruiting gurus just once. Everyone has had to make cut backs this year :)

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July 21st, 2009 at 9:32 PM
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i can pretty much guarantee

i can pretty much guarantee this has been answered...but does the new top 100 imply re-evaluation of star levels or just re-ordering of the existing rankings? I thought there was talk of Pace and Wilkins possibly receiving additional starrage.

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July 21st, 2009 at 10:05 PM
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They're reevaluating everybody

tomorrow they will release the rest of the 250 and on Thursday I believe they will update the stars of people outside the 250. So yes, there is potential in this current cycle that someone like Pace picks up a 4*

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:47 PM
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why can't rivals just admit

why can't rivals just admit that Garnder is a top 100 player already? How many more camp MVPs does he need to win?

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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Don't hold your breath...

According to the Rivals front page, now Bolden is looking like the top QB in MI based on the Elite 11 camp.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:28 PM
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Didn't Elite 11 start today?

Didn't Elite 11 start today? How is he top already?

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:32 PM
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GoBlueAZ
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Yesterday

Yesterday

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:51 PM
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Bolden may be the most

Bolden may be the most polished of the QBs, but I'll take Gardner's upside and perfect fit for our offense. Gardner is always going to get knocked for his unorthodox throwing methods. Could care less where Gardner ends up rankings wise; all I know that we got a stud athlete that will produce big time for us.

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:47 PM
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I noticed the same thing

I noticed the same thing about Sharrif Floyd. What was his rating before the current ranking? Now I really hope we get him!

How possible is it that Cullen Christian hasn't committed yet because he wants to see how his rankings shake out? If so, would it hurt us much?

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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In the article on rivals it

In the article on rivals it said that he was previously #91

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:57 PM
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Tim Waymen
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Yeah I just noticed that

Yeah I just noticed that about Floyd's ranking. Thanks though.

Also, OSU commit Jamel Turner fell from #30 out of the Rivals100. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be awesome to have him. But an interesting thing is that he and some other players fell due to off-field issues. I wasn't aware that that determined a player's rating. You would think that a player's rating was just based on skill and talent. Interesting.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:00 PM
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It was posted a while back

It was posted a while back that Turner was having issues and he dropped out of school, so that would be cause for a monumental fall.

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:58 PM
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"How possible is it that

"How possible is it that Cullen Christian hasn't committed yet because he wants to see how his rankings shake out? If so, would it hurt us much?"

Take a deep breath, step away from the recruiting for a bit.

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:02 PM
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He's actually.....

He's actually on the right path. I don't want to say it's the only reason, because Cullen has told me he just wants to make sure.

Initially though, he did feel like his rankings weren't up to his abilities. He wanted to go as many places, and show what he could do to get his rankings up. So, he's not that far off of what Cullen has been doing.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:16 PM
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Take that, ShockFX

You're just a temperature in a shape. Temperature? Cold. Shape? Ugly.

Did you hear about the black Harvard prof being reported by his neighbors for breaking in to his own home and getting harassed by Cambridge cops? God I love it when Cambridge shows how progressive it really is.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:08 PM
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Barring some shenanigans like

Barring some shenanigans like a school paying him or hiring his dad or something, Christian will be a Wolverine.

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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Committed players don't sell

Committed players don't sell the subscriptions. Rivals has only 1 committed player in their top 10 and 20 in their top 50. That implies either the top players wait longer to make their selections or committing early weighs down your ranking. You decide.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:03 PM
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Bryce Brown last

Bryce Brown last year.
Terrelle Pryor the year before.
Both #1 on by the end of the year as they couldn't decide.

Just more support for you.

(Not that they didn't deserve 5*s, but, being #1 and all, ya know)

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:07 PM
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I think it's more that the

I think it's more that the kids at the top want the attention, and want to make their announcement at the Army game or on national signing day because that's what the previous guys have done. They feel they have to keep everyone in suspense, like Brown and Pryor, who went even further and didn't decide until after signing day.

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:18 PM
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Speaking of which, does

Speaking of which, does anyone else hope that Bryce Brown, he of the "$10 a month to find out where I'm going!" fails?

Or, well, I don't want a kid to fail... but learns a HARD lesson?

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:43 PM
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No

I don't want anyone to fail. Obviously, not everyone is going to make it to the NFL, although that's not everyone's goal. I figure I will be better off (in bed) wishing bad upon no one. Or at least I try not too.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:53 PM
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You're probably right, but

You're probably right, but when a kid at 18 is convinced he's that important, it chaps me.

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:42 PM
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bryce brown>blazefire

One get your facts straight before you talk about some kid you have no idea what he is about. His mentor or something like that charged the fee for updates on his recruitment. Your comment is completely unfounded and makes me believe your some arrogant fool.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 7:18 AM
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Whoa, I didn't know Bryce

Whoa, I didn't know Bryce Brown had a mgoblog account. Sorry for talking about you behind your back buddy.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 AM
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lmao

hilarious.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 AM
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lmao

hilarious.

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:28 PM
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Another factor is that anyone

Another factor is that anyone in the top 5 knows that he's likely going to have a spot available for him anywhere he wants to go. Less OMG recruits probably take into consideration the fact that their options may narrow as time goes on.

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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I suspect that if

Devin Gardner was seen walking on water at a camp, the title of the article would be "Michigan Commit Can't Swim" For whatever reason, Rivals just doesn't give him any respect.

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:51 PM
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Prater would be really nice

Prater would be really nice to get too. Did any of our unranked guys earn 3*?

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:54 PM
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This was Top 100 and they

This was Top 100 and they only have changed the ratings of those in the Top 100 so far and 3 stars are never in the Top 100. The Top 250 should be coming out in a couple of days.

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:55 PM
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Pretty sure I read somewhere that

they're not releasing the additional rankings until tomorrow, but I could be making that up.

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July 21st, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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Is our chances with Prater

Is our chances with Prater still good?

Imagine Stonum, Stokes, Prater being the outside WR.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:00 PM
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No...

No, they aren't as good as everyone had hoped, or hyped.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:00 PM
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They is not great

but it seems like we're still in the picture to some degree...

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:10 PM
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I have a feeling that our

I have a feeling that our chances with Prater would be a lot better with a good season.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:17 PM
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I'd thought Stokes was more

I'd thought Stokes was more likely to be a slot. How about Prater, Stonum, and we have an armada of slot ninjas?

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:55 PM
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I gave you +1...

totally agree.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:56 PM
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What about Miller?

What about Miller?

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:22 PM
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Imagine

if you knew how ridiculous "Is Our Chances" reads. It reads as stupid and as unintelligible as it sounds.

Love,

The Grammar Police

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July 22nd, 2009 at 5:04 PM
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Depends

On what your definition of the word is is.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:16 PM
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Who is Floyd's #1 right now?

Who is Floyd's #1 right now? Where are we?

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:20 PM
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Conventional wisdom and

Conventional wisdom and unsubstantiated rumors all point to PSU being in the pole position at this point. Insider over at GBW insists that Michigan is in a much better position with Floyd than it seems in the open, and that we will definitely get our shot at him via an official visit.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:31 PM
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A janitor heard him whistling

A janitor heard him whistling "Hail to the Victors" while dropping a deuce.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:45 PM
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Plus a million if I could.

Plus a million if I could.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:04 PM
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PSU is going to have a

PSU is going to have a ridiculous class, unfortunately.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:30 PM
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How much does everyone wanna

How much does everyone wanna bet that Gardner has somehow actually dropped in the rankings despite dominating at camp?

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:31 PM
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Would anyone prefer he rise

Would anyone prefer he rise in the rankings and suck at the camps?

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:40 PM
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Of course, dude

Recruiting is all about aesthetics. And rubbing it in your rivals(no pun) faces. For instance, Brett Gallimore sucked more dick than any Michigan commit ever. HOWEVA, he was a top 100 player on rivals - which allowed me to brag about him for a couple years before it was time to accept that he sucked.

Recruiting is a numbers game. I want to see everyone with a 4-star and a 6.0 next to their name. I don't give a shit if they do nothing at Michigan - it's all about what we think before they play a down.

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:23 PM
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MGoBlog has enough clout that

MGoBlog has enough clout that Brian should be able to create his own recruiting lists and heavily favor M commits.

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:25 PM
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Best. Question. Ever. Fuck.

Best. Question. Ever.

Fuck. Shit. Up.

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July 21st, 2009 at 1:42 PM
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I bet he drops to 3 stars

I bet he drops to 3 stars because that's all RR can recruit.

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:11 PM
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I find it funny

Most of the player's tag-lines are descriptions with stats, then this for #91.

"The top prospect in Tennessee sports a 3.8 GPA."

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:22 PM
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I wonder if he'll pull a Myron Rolle and go to FSU

Best Edukation ever!

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:31 PM
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dude

He's a Rhodes Scholar. I think it worked out pretty well.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:01 PM
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And your point being?

He's a smart kid he could have and should have done better than FSU.

FSU=Joke of an educational institution

And yes I am still bitter that he chose FSU for it's great academics over such other schools as Michigan and Florida. If he had picked Florida it wouldn't be a big deal but it's like the kid being the #1 recruit in the country saying "I want to go to the NFL and be a big time player in College Football" and then settling on BGSU.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:06 PM
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You're way off, FYI. At no

You're way off, FYI. At no point did he say "I intend on going to the highest ranked college in the NCAA according to US News & World Report." He wanted to go somewhere that would both challenge him academically and prepare him for the NFL.

He is now a Rhodes Scholar and is projected to go in the first round of the NFL draft next year. Looks like the joke's on you.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:11 PM
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Yeah....

And if you did a combination of the two Academics+athletics... FSU at that time was hardly at the top.

FSU hasn't been a huge power in football for a while and academically is a (pardon my french) complete shithole. If he had gone to the "best of both worlds" school he would have gone to Florida top 15 program in football and top 40 school or Michigan Top 25 program in football and top 25 school. But no he chose to go to FSU which is a Top 25 program in football (at best now) and a bottom 25 school in the nation (as far as D-1 programs go)

So yes I still do question his decision to go to FSU. Now if he really meant "I want to go to a good football school and a college that will not challenge me so that I can get sweet grades then yes he probably picked the best college.

And how is the joke on me I know that he's a Rhodes Scholar and is going to Oxford (I think) and is delaying going to the NFL...

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:16 PM
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Because you think his

Because you think his decision was poor, yet he accomplished exactly what he wanted to. Just because Florida is ranked in the top 40 (unconfirmed by me, FYI) doesn't mean that they are as good as FSU in terms of academics among athletes, or in his particular program. But goddamn don't you know everything?

I'm calling bullshit on FSU being in the bottom 25 of all D1 football schools. For these purposes, I'll assume you meant FBS, since LOTS of FCS schools are ranked below FSU.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:29 PM
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Just because you got me fired up

Here are FBS schools (certainly not exhaustive) ranked below FSU.

Oklahoma
Oregon
South Carolina
Tennessee
BYU
TCU
Ohio University
Kentucky
Washington State
Arizona State
South Florida
Colorado State
Arkansas
Utah
Kansas State
LSU
Cincinnati
Louisville
Mississippi
Miss St
Oklahoma State
Oregon State
Temple
Texas Tech
West Virginia

I stopped at 25, and I was about halfway through tier 3 out of 4 according to US News. I also skipped over nearly all the non-BCS schools.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:38 PM
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Um...

FSU is #102

Alabama is #83

Auburn is #96

Thug U is #51

OSU (the worst school in the Big Ten(11) is #55)

UGA is #58

And all of these schools provide better football and education than FSU... Wow... That was hard.

If you really think that FSU is such a great school.... Well I'm sorry but there is no help for you because the school blows.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:48 PM
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Just to prove to you that you

Just to prove to you that you are either retarded or just really bad at reading lists, OSU is certainly not the lowest ranked school in the Big Ten (as much as we'd like to think so).

55 - OSU
61 - Minnesota
66(tie)- Purdue
66(tie)- Iowa
71(tie)- Indiana
71(tie)- Michigan State

Ohio State is very much in the middle of the Big Ten, in fact they are the median school.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:55 PM
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Yes I did see that

But everyone says that OSU is the worst school in the Big Ten and yes I did see that. I decided to put common perceptions of schools and also none of those schools are good at football.

And is there really that much difference between the 55th and 71st... not really..

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:10 PM
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Oh and btw I'm pretty sure that you can kiss my ass

I'm retarded... Yeah I just graduated from Michigan in Engineering.... Yeah I'm an idiot.. Engineers can't read/do statistics/look at data...

You can take those 750 mgopoints and shove them up your ass

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:17 PM
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Then try... you know...

Then try... you know... reading... and looking at data and lists and stuff. Do they teach students in the engineering program LOGIC? Because that is another deficit that you forgot to mention.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:18 PM
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You may have just graduated

You may have just graduated from UM in engineering but you might want to go to the Everest Institute for some help with your reading comprehension.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:19 PM
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winner winner chicken dinner

winner winner chicken dinner

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:23 PM
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Ha I knew he was going to say

Ha I knew he was going to say he was a Michigan graduate. Pretty sad that fellow alumni think that other schools are inferior and are incapable of providing an good education. Getting an education from Michigan is nice, but there plenty of other ways to get an solid education and build a successful career.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:31 PM
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Hey engineer, 55>71?

Hey engineer, 55>71? A course in remedial counting is also in order.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:35 PM
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Lording your Michigan degree

Lording your Michigan degree as a sign of intellectual superiority is idiotic. Lording it over a forum comprised of people who have the same fucking degree as you is something entirely more pathetic.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:07 PM
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I said that because someone called me retarded...

I know that most people here have Michigan degrees I wasn't trying to "lord" my Michigan degree as a sign of intellectual superiority. I was just trying to say

"I'm not a fucking idiot". But no I'm on the same level as Bluefront and McFarlin I should go and play in traffic

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:11 PM
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Having a Michigan degree does

Having a Michigan degree does not mean you're intelligent.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:24 PM
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But I'm pretty sure it means I'm not retarded...

So yeah when you guys went to personal attacks on me that's when I get pissed off. You have no idea about me, what my intelligence level is or what I do for a living.

Just because I have an opinion on something doesn't mean that I should get castrated by the community like this.... This is ridiculous.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:30 PM
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I believe you're referring to

I believe you're referring to my post, and I never said that are retarded. I said that you are either retarded or bad at reading lists. You could have said "yeah, I must have read that list wrong" and you would have satisfied one of the criteria. Instead, you jumped right on the retarded option like you wanted it.

I did not say you are retarded, nor did I say you are retarded AND bad at reading lists. My comment implied you were only one of the two.

Example: If you said to me, WolvinLA, you are either retarded or brunette, I wouldn't be offended.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 7:30 AM
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You're either retarded or

You're either retarded or double retarded!

jk jk

but srsly...

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:36 PM
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When your opinion is stupid,

When your opinion is stupid, people tend to call you stupid.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:36 PM
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Lording your Michigan degree

Lording your Michigan degree as a sign of intellectual superiority is idiotic. Lording it over a forum comprised of people who have the same fucking degree as you is something entirely more pathetic.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:38 PM
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lolz u posted 2x

lolz u posted 2x

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:45 PM
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Return your degree.

There was obviously a mistake at the Registrar's Office.

P.S. - I'm sorry Rolle turned out to be more successful than you. I know it hurts. Time heals all wounds.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:28 PM
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engineer huh? take a wild

engineer huh? take a wild guess as to how many posters here are engineers. i'll give you a hint: it's a lot. and we all manage to post (relatively) coherent, rational thoughts

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July 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 PM
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Statistics

See if you can find the relationship between your point total and the number of times you've posted on this thread.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:37 PM
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Rhodes

Do you really think that winning the Rhodes Scholarship is based merely on "getting sweet grades"?? You do realize what winning one of those entails, right?

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:40 PM
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Yeah no I have no idea....

I just like to talk shit. Getting a Rhodes scholar is like getting a high school diploma anybody can do it. (turn on your sarcasm meter)

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:54 PM
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Nevermind

Nevermind... everything you write is demonstrably false, so why bother.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:47 PM
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No. He doesn't. He really

No. He doesn't. He really thinks that the Rhodes Scholarship people are only looking at his "sweet grades" and not reading his papers, doing personal interviews, etc. And that's why he is an idiot.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:10 PM
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I don't have the link, but

I don't have the link, but Rolle has said that Florida State actually sold him on their academics by coming up with a detailed plan specifically tailored to him.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure that every school did this for him...

I don't have proof of this so just take it from my Uncle who never lies and is a high school football coach

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:26 PM
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You are treading in dangerous

You are treading in dangerous waters, my friend. Rolle liked FSU better than Michigan. Deal with it. FSU offered him everything that he needed to accomplish his goals. It is ass-backwards to claim that he made the wrong choice when things have worked out so well for him.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:33 PM
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He's done well for himself

But it just goes to show you that when a recruit says something like that that it means absolutely nothing.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:38 PM
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Unless, of course, they

Unless, of course, they actually mean it, like Rolle did, and go out and achieve exactly what they hope to, like Rolle did.

No one is going to disagree with you that recruits are not always to be trusted, but Rolle is basically the worst example of that fact that you could use. William Campbell is a good one. Use him next time

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:45 PM
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And I say congratulations and Kudos go to him

For being FSU's first Rhode Scholar (and probably last). I'll say it again. FSU IS A SHITTY SCHOOL. Going there for Myron Rolle is like a Devin Gardner going to a school for the blind and deaf and trying out for the football team. He's an all-star comparatively just like Rolle is an all-star academically at FSU.
It's a joke.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:49 PM
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1) He is not their first

1) He is not their first Rhodes Scholar

2) If all your argument boils down to is "FSU suckz!!!," then there is no point in talking to you. Have fun being super bitter

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:50 PM
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Fail

"last"

http://www.fsu.edu/indexTOFStory.html?lead.rhodes-oshea

Oops. Guess you're still talking out your ass.

Since I'll assume you have trouble reading, he's actually the 4th and 2nd student-athlete to get one.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:51 PM
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I thought you had to be an

I thought you had to be an athlete to be considered...

Edit: As per Wikipedia one of the four standards by which a candidate is judged is energy to use one's talents to the full, as exemplified by fondness for and success in sports.

So I guess you don't have to be an athlete, I don't think Bill Clinton was, but it's probably a big help.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:51 PM
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That

Is just about the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read. Oh my shit.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:55 PM
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Unbelievable. I don't like

Unbelievable. I don't like calling names, but you're one of the dumbest posters on here, after today. Myron Rolle is the 4th (FOURTH) student to receive a Rhodes Scholarship from FSU, and the third since 2005.

Wait, WHAT??? AT A SHITTY SCHOOL????

EDIT: Wow, you guys really beat me to it.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:56 PM
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"and the third since

"and the third since 2005"

Which is 2 more than Michigan during that time....

Ummmmm.......

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:57 PM
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That's fine you can label me a dumb poster

I really could give a shit. But yes the #102 school in the nation is a shitty school. And when you claim to want to go to Med School and want to combine athletics and academics FSU should not be at the top of the pile.

I don't care if I get a million negative points. Do I really have to go digging through Brian's posts that said "FSU REALLY DAH FUCK" to prove my point.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:58 PM
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Take it easy, bouje. Why

Take it easy, bouje. Why don't you sit this next one out, stop talking for a while.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:01 PM
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Nope

Sorry I will vehemently disagree with anyone that says that going to FSU for academic reasons is a great call.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:02 PM
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Are you really so arrogant

Are you really so arrogant and stupid you can't accept the idea a school might be very good at one thing and not so good at another? Or that it's more about what you, as an individual, push yourself to achieve than what your school is ranked? FSU, in Rolle's opinion, was the best place to achieve his goal of being a Rhodes Scholar. And, I'll be damned, he did it. So what's your point?

Quit being butt-hurt he picked FSU over Michigan and deal with reality.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:08 PM
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That's great

And people make stupid decisions that work out great all of the time. Why are we praising him for making a stupid decision that just happened to work out?

Why not praise the guy who drove home drunk but didn't get a DUI. Hey it worked out for the best and it was a poor decision.

Why not congratulate the kid who decided to drop out of high school to make it as an actor or an artist or whatever.

Just because he achieved his goals doesn't mean that he made the right decision and lied about it in the process.

FSU = #102 in US News ranking and a top 25 Program

If he REALLY wanted the best of both world's he could have and should have gone to

Miami (that Miami), OSU, Michigan, Florida, etc etc etc. Florida is an awful school and congratulations are in order to him for achieving his goals but that doesn't mean that you need to slobber on his nob.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:12 PM
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You have GOT to be fucking

You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. Comparing Rolle working his way to a Rhodes Scholarship to a guy who drives drunk and makes it home? You are being fucking ridiculous.

Rolle worked his ass off to get what he has. He didn't luck into it. Why do you give a flying shit where he did it? Oh, right, because it wasn't Michigan. Sorry.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:22 PM
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So the message boxes really

So the message boxes really do get this thin. Cool. Pretty soon there will only be space for one letter per line.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:00 PM
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Oh wow look

http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2005/09/football-recruiting-board-updated.html

Editorial Opinion FSU? Um... okay. I'd like to reference my recruit-to-English translation guide:

"Academics are extremely important to me" - I don't care about academics in the slightest.

"No, seriously, the academic reputation of a school is critical in my decision making." - My mom is in the room.

Further proof that academic reputation means nearly zero to anyone looking at a potential NFL career--and that those it really means something to go to Stanford anyway. Not that Rolle is a bad guy or FSU is a bad place to go.

Clearly I'm not alone in this thinking that FSU is a premier institution of higher learning *snicker*

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:22 PM
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Bouje, if you read about his

Bouje, if you read about his recruitment, you'll find that while Michigan was telling him about their bachelors of general studies, FSU was showing him how they could help him become a Rhodes scholar. It was a blantant mistake on michigan's part, as they pretty said "whatever" to his stated goal. FSU clearly remained true to their word.
You, on the other hand, have repeatedly demonstrated yourself to be one of the most stupid and unjustifiably arrogant posters on this site. And this is the dumbest battle you've fought yet. That's impressive.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:22 PM
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The difference between then

The difference between then and now is the fact that HE WON A FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP. He wouldn't have done that here. Do you know why? Because we wanted him to major in zoology or some shit so we could be sure he'd stay eligible. He made the right choice, you fucking retard.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:48 PM
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Right because as a student Athlete at UofM

You can't pick your major....

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:51 PM
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I've always wondered what

I've always wondered what being functionally retarded is like, please tell me about it.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:59 PM
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No seriously please explain your comment

Last I checked when you go to Michigan they don't make you do a major... But ya know as has been clearly shown by the MGoBlog community I'm an idiot.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:01 PM
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Functionally?

Functionally?

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:02 PM
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Well, he manged to make it

Well, he manged to make it here ostensibly all by himself. I'm sure he earned a cookie.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:03 PM
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Functionally.

He can at least mash his hand on the keyboard. It's a big achievement. Babby steps.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:58 PM
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Everytime you comment I get

Everytime you comment I get slightly excited to give you another negative. I've even considered creating a thread to debate the merits of you, bluefront and mcfarlin. Consider yourself honored.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:02 PM
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Really wow...

Comparing me to the likes of Bluefront and Mcfarlin because I said that the #102 school is a shitty school... Wow...

Congrats to Rolle for getting his Rhodes Scholar. I'm tired of this shit. FSU is the best school academically in the nation and Myron Rolle chose the best school throughout his recruitment. My original post I completely withdraw because of it's stupidity and clearly incorrect opinion about the greatness of FSU.

All Hail Seminole Nation! Chop Chop Chop!

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:09 PM
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The part that bums me out is

The part that bums me out is that bouje will likely just open an account under a new name so that he doesn't negative elleventy billion points, and we'll just think he's some other noob. Look for someone with a join date of somewhere around 2009-7-22 or so.

Be a man bouje, don't do that.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:15 PM
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Hate to burst your bubble

But I won't

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:18 PM
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No, that's a good thing

No, that's a good thing bouje. I actually admire you for sticking it out. I won't -1 your last post now.

EDIT: Nevermind, I had already done it and I can't undo it. Sorry bouje.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:21 PM
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Tried to edit my post but it wouldn't let me....

I think it's pathetic that no matter what I said throughout this thread people just down-pointed me... Here is what else I wanted to say in my above post

But I won't. And the thing that is really going to suck is that you guys won't ever let me live this down. And that's fine. We'll see if the internet ever really forgives and forgets or if whenever I post anything if I'll just get downgraded because of my opinion of Rolle and FSU. We will see if YOU POSTERS have integrity to just actually down-point people for posting stupid shit or if you'll just mob people just for being "bouje" or "mcfarlin" or whoever.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:11 PM
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Hhhmmm. Attacking someone you

Hhhmmm. Attacking someone you don't know for doing something you don't understand, the appealing to our integrity? Funny.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:12 PM
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Hhhmmm. Attacking someone you

Hhhmmm. Attacking someone you don't know for doing something you don't understand, the appealing to our integrity? Funny.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:21 PM
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Shhh!

He's doing all of his Scout Brothers proud right now. he has probably linked this thread to Scout as evidence of how he is fighting to defend Michigan! All Hail!

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July 22nd, 2009 at 9:23 AM
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I think this is msg box is

I think this is msg box is the skinniest it's ever gotten. Sorry this post just took up the whole page. Yeah it clearly doesn't take much to amuse me.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 9:46 AM
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No, this is the skinniest

No, this is the skinniest it;s ever gotten.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 3:06 PM
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMed

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July 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 PM
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Fuck me

This thread is ridiculous!

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July 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 PM
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As the threads shrink,

You can't even see how many points you are getting.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 6:51 PM
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The letters aren't even in

The letters aren't even in the box anymore. Another response and the internets might explode.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 9:02 PM
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KEWL!

KEWL!

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July 22nd, 2009 at 9:04 PM
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oh my god its full of stars

oh my god its full of stars

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July 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 PM
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I see Blue. He looks

I see Blue. He looks glorious.

Go Blue.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 PM
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Nerd Alert

Will you shut up and listen to me! Shut down all the garbage smashers on the detention level, will ya? Do you copy? Shut down all the garbage smashers on the detention level!

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:09 PM
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I didn't down vote

I didn't down vote you.

BOOOOOOOO, TIMMMAAY, BOOOOOOO

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:57 PM
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But I won't. And the thing

But I won't. And the thing that is really going to suck is that you guys won't ever let me live this down. And that's fine. We'll see if the internet ever really forgives and forgets or if whenever I post anything if I'll just get downgraded because of my opinion of Rolle and FSU. We will see if YOU POSTERS have integrity to just actually down-point people for posting stupid shit or if you'll just mob people just for being "bouje" or "mcfarlin" or whoever.




I didn't down vote all of your posts for being "bouje"

I down voted them because I wanted to downvote you 100 times for the first thing you said but I am only allowed to once per comment.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:06 PM
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It's not that you said FSU is

It's not that you said FSU is a bad school. It's that you said it's a bad school for Myron Rolle when he's become a RHODES SCHOLAR there. It's also your appealing to the US World Report's numbers to prove your point and then disregarding them completely and naming OSU the worst academic school in the Big Ten while simultaneously pointing to OSU's academic ranking and exclaiming at how that proved how bad a school FSU is. FWIW I appreciate your never say die attitude.

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:20 PM
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Everyone says that "OSU is the worst academic school

in the Big Ten and so I used USNWR to show how bad the "worst" school is in the Big Ten... I saw when I posted that there were several other Big Ten schools below OSU but I thought "Nah it's common knowledge that OSU is the worst school in the Big Ten they'll understand" but no I get torn a new one saying that I can't read lists and that I'm a fucking retard.

I've said all along FSU is not a good school and it was the incorrect choice for Myron Rolle and that Rolle would have been an NFL player AND a Rhodes scholar at other schools such as Florida and Michigan. Which are much better combinations of Athletics and Academics

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:30 PM
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Well

Maybe that's because you've proven that you can't read and that you ARE a fucking retard?

Your own nominal judgement of FSU is an insufficient argument. Your points have all been refuted with cold facts throughout this ordeal. You've been told, repeatedly, that Michigan did not take his pursuit of a Rhodes scholarhsip as seriously as Florida State. You also are unaware that FSU paces UF in quite a few fields lately(and I say this as a UF attendee right now). Also also, FSU and Michigan have been a wash on the football field the past few season. And Florida was not quite Florida yet when Rolle committed.

The crux of your argument is that FSU is "not a good school," and people have ripped you a new one because that's "not a good argument." It's all rather simple, and you've made it worse by finding it necessary to defend yourself to the death as if this thread is your Alamo. Get a fucking grip on life, compadre.

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July 21st, 2009 at 9:30 PM
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OSU is not "the worst school

OSU is not "the worst school in the Big Ten", it does in fact have many well respected programs especially at the graduate level. As does Florida State. Your entire argument is so ill informed that it's staggering.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:26 PM
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As the poster below

As the poster below pointed out, Rolle was not FSU's first Rhode's Scholar and actually he wasn't even their first student athlete to receive the Rhode's Scholorship. If I'm not mistaken, there was a Track and Field Athlete (Garrett Johnson) who received the scholorship a few years ago and was a mentor of sorts to Rolle while he was at FSU. They sold him on the fact that others before him have done the same thing and listed out a plan on how he would accomplish his goals. Also, he wants to be a brain surgeon and FSU has a great school for that as well. So yeah I believe there was a lot that went into Rolle chosing FSU and it seems like they did a good job of selling to him as well.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 7:39 AM
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What does this guys have

What does this guys have against FSU? Did a mugger dressed up as a FSU Seminole shoot and kill your parents in a dark alley after coming home from the theater when you were a child?

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:35 PM
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And if he won a national

And if he won a national championship and was drafted in the top 5 of the NFL draft after attending Bowling Green, you would say that he had a successful time there because he accomplished his goals, yes? It's not like Rolle is still hoping to be a Rhodes Scholar, he IS a Rhodes Scholar. He has achieved his dreams, and if you care so much about his situation, then you should be incredibly happy for him

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July 21st, 2009 at 2:41 PM
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Believe it or not, football

Believe it or not, football coaches do care a lot about the grades of the players they are recruiting. Not only do players need to qualify initially through the NCAA clearinghouse, but they need to stay eligible while in school. Keep in mind that many of the top football programs are good to excellent academic schools, this is certainly a concern. Knowing that a kid has a 3.8 in high school implies that this is one kid that the coach (likely) won't have to worry about academically.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:02 PM
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I think that a top 100 kid should have something better about

them than WOo hoo high gpa...

It's like Rivals just ran out of good things to say about people and were like "we haven't used anyone's gpa yet"

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:09 PM
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I'd Like to Take a Moment...

...to honestly express my admiration for a board full of Michigan fans who are willing to defend the decisions of a kid who didn't end up going here. I can't think of any other college football board where this discussion would ever take place.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:07 PM
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Only 3 white guys in the top

Only 3 white guys in the top 50. What's the deal?

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:09 PM
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And not a single Hispanic!

And not a single Hispanic!

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:01 PM
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Barry Obama will fix that.

Barry Obama will fix that. Soon we will have government run high school recruiting rankings. You'll get a +1 if you are hispanic, +2 if you are white (since they are the minority in college football) and +3 if you are an illegal alien.

Everyone must prescribe to the ranking service as well. It will be taken out of your paycheck. The amount will be determined by what your income level is.

A czar will be appointed with the title of "High School Recruiting Ranking Czar" to oversee this process. He will be payed at least $1 million per year.

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July 21st, 2009 at 4:24 PM
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You're an idiot.

You're an idiot.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:11 PM
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I think you're an idiot too,

I think you're an idiot too, but only because this is not the place for political banter. However, it's nice to see I'm not the only right winger on the board - I thought I was for a little while.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:27 PM
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Depending on your definition

Depending on your definition of "right wing", I'm a registered Libertarian.

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July 21st, 2009 at 11:16 PM
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Me too, and coachbt....

Me too, and coachbt....

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:11 PM
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Nope, I'm pretty staunch over

Nope, I'm pretty staunch over here.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 AM
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There are quite a few

There are quite a few R-wingers around here, myself included.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 AM
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WolvinLA

Right wing pot head in LA. How's that working out for you?

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July 22nd, 2009 at 5:30 PM
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Not the only one

Turtles are republicans

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:52 PM
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shut the

fuck up

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:36 PM
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So I was looking at guys in

So I was looking at guys in the top 100 that we are technically in on and have a technical shot at. My list looks like:

#1 - Seantrel Henderson
#4 - Kyle Prater
#9 - Sharrif Floyd
#10 - Jeff Luc
#26 - Khairi Fortt
#35 - Latwan Anderson
#50 - Tony Jefferson
#60 - Cullen Christian
#85 - Sean Parker

Did I miss anyone? Granted a few of them are potentially long shots, but figured I would just throw it out there.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:10 PM
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If only I could convince

If only I could convince these kids to come to Michigan. Maybe if I befriend them on facebook....

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:31 PM
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Don't do it!

Don't do it!

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:12 PM
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GENIUS!

GENIUS!

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July 22nd, 2009 at 7:42 AM
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tell them you're going to

tell them you're going to like every single post and status they have until they commit to Michigan. See how much they like having their notifications flooded by every single member of mgoblog.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 PM
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Tell me if you see this

"Sharrif Floyd took the 'Which Harry Potter Character are you' quiz and the result is Cho Chang."

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:24 PM
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#86 - Marquis Flowers He's

#86 - Marquis Flowers

He's taking officials to Michigan and Notre Dame

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:31 PM
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I hope all of our guys fall in the rankings

I'm willing to bet that everyone in the world telling you that you're the greatest thing in the world is not the easiest thing for the psyche of a 17 year old to handle. I'm sure it's fun, but so is heroin- you're right, too strong of a comparison, but I digress.

I'd bet it's healthier for RR and Barwis to take a kid -

who's already been evaluated to be the type of kid he needs to run his system which has proven itself at the highest level of college football

- and instill some real confidence in him that stems from hard work and accomplishment tempered with a bit of scorn for the media that under-valued him...

Than to throw in him in the fickle spotlight of the media that will throw him out in the cold the second there's a bigger story.

Of course, if I'm a kid I'd want that attention, but looking back, I'm glad I never had to deal with it at 17... give it to me now, well that's a different story ;)

Then again, I could be completely wrong.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:42 PM
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Yeah, wrong

Higher ranked kids are statistically more likely to succeed. I prefer to play the odds than to hope for outliers and some nebulous arguments about attitude.

That said, we do need people that fit the system and we should trust RR's evaluation over those of the recruiting services. It's a fine line.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:48 PM
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We have yet to see how

We have yet to see how RichRod's recruiting classes are going to turn out, but I am already getting a little tired of hearing about "system" recruits. Especially when we're talking about defensive players. And FWIW, Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma all run a variation of the spread and they don't recruit 3* "system" guys.

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July 21st, 2009 at 9:31 PM
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And the Congregation say AMEN!

I, too am tiring of the mantra of "wait til he gets HIS players"--as if Rodriguez runs some sort of super secret offensive package that only he knows how to run and only he knows who will work in it. I do think, or at least hope, that Rich Rodriguez doesn't all into this mindset and would very much like to land 25 5* recruits every season. I don't believe he came to Michigan at all thinking he'd win big with West Virginia type talent.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:49 PM
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Bottom line is

Most Michigan fans are condescending fucktards who have little idea that the school you graduate from is secondary to your own will to succeed. Fuck, just look at dex. He graduated from Michigan and he's trying to turn tricks on craigslist.

FSU is a good school. But by all means, bouje, continue to huff n puff ridiculously about Rolle's decisions that have steered him into a Rhodes scholar and future NFL pick.

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July 21st, 2009 at 3:56 PM
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Agreed, for the most part.

Agreed, for the most part. Where you go as an undergrad is pretty much meaningless if you don't intend to go to grad school. Many Michigan grads get out of college and are then shocked to see how competent and intelligent their peers who went to less prestigous universities are. I was somewhat guilty of this and it was very humbling (although I will maintain that the quality of education provided by most SEC schools to most of their graduates does, indeed, suck per the stereotype).

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:37 PM
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And how much of that

Was Rolle just being Rolle. I think that Myron could have gone ANYWHERE and have been an NFL pick and a Rhodes Scholar.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:42 PM
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You have that high of an

You have that high of an opinion on his intelligence, yet you routinely call his decision to attend FSU stupid? Does not compute.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:50 PM
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bouje
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Yes I have an extremely highly opinion of him

and I also think that he's an amazing athlete and an all around great person from everything that I've heard and I think that the backlash against me thinking that it was a poor decision almost proves that.

But just because he's an extremely smart individual doesn't mean that he'll always make the correct choices and I still stand by my point that FSU was not the best choice for him for both academics and athletics.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:15 PM
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Maybe if he had gone to

Maybe if he had gone to Michigan he would have won TWO Rhodes Scholarships!

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:25 PM
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AND

Michigan would have gone 3.5-8.5 instead of 3-9 last year!

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:42 PM
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It's hard to be a fucking

It's hard to be a fucking Rhodes Scholar when you major in General Studies. Do you know what a Rhodes Scholarship is, per chance?

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:49 PM
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Really he's not over 18 and he can't choose his own major?

And yes I do know what a Rhodes Scholarship is. He could have gone anywhere and done this. Right because at Michigan you have to Major in General Studies (*cough* Patrick Omameh *cough cough*)

Personal ... Patrick Chuba Omameh was born Dec. 29, 1989 ... enrolled in the School of Engineering.

(He's scholarship)

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:13 PM
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The reason FSU was a better

The reason FSU was a better choice for him than Michigan goes beyond the majors he could have chosen. Here is a quick recap of his recruitment to help you understand why:

Rolle: I want to major in pre-med, become a doctor, and try to become a Rhodes Scholar.
Michigan: That's nice. Here's the academic services we have in place for all student athletes to help them stay eligible.
FSU: We'll tailor your academic plan to help you achieve your goals. We also have other students trying for the Rhodes scholarship, we'll have them give you advice to help you along.
Rolle: I choose the school where I'm most likely to acheive my goals, which is the place that actually takes them seriously.

Just because athletes can and do choose majors besides general studies at Michigan does not mean Michigan was the best place for Rolle to accomplish what he wanted to accomplish.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:46 PM
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Really?

Patrick Omameh's middle name is Chuba? That's awesome.

Oh, and bouje? You're an idiot. Go back to mlive. Your peers miss you.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 2:45 PM
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You're not cool unless you pee your pants

How do you know whether a General Studies degree would affect your chances at a Rhodey*?

Don't believe the media hype - it's not that bad a degree. It's LSA without the foreign language req., which isn't all that difficult anyway. They should probably rename the damn thing, because it sounds lamer than it is. A GS degree is more difficult to attain than kinesiology or communications, IME.

*If you know ANYTHING about the Rhodes Scholarship program, you know that the cool kids call them Rhodeys.

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July 21st, 2009 at 5:54 PM
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Actually, I'm going to run

Actually, I'm going to run with this one. If you think it wasn't FSU that got him the RS, but that it was Rolle being Rolle, doesn't that imply that he could have accomplished this feat at any school in, say, the top 150 schools in the country? Let's assume, as you said, that Rolle could earn a Rhodes Scholarship at any FBS school.

Then maybe Myron Rolle likes the campus better, or the weather, or the girls, or Bobby Bowden. Keep in mind also Bouje, FSU is no powerhouse in 2009, but 4 years ago they were much better than they are now.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:04 PM
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bouje, how do you read your

bouje, how do you read your name? The only way I can comprehend it is " blow-jay". I'm not sure. Is that french for douche? Maybe russian? All I know is that you are acting quite "fagelicious"......

EDIT: In the time it took me to write this, blow-jay went from -100 points (roughly), to -197.

DAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:21 PM
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This post

is nearly as fail as the shitfest earlier in this thread.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:40 PM
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I can't believe it

potato salad

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:40 PM
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I can't believe it

potato salad

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:42 PM
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Quote

"I still stand by my point that FSU was not the best choice for him for both academics and athletics."

You, sir, are the gift that keeps on giving. I think you've been pounded to shit on your incredulous academic argument("Hey fucktard, you might be a Rhodes Scholar but you still made the wrong choice! I'm going to continue to ignore the point that Michigan cared just a little less than FSU did when it came to tailoring an academic plan for Mr. Rolle and use +1000 mana to boost my douchebaggery!), but as for the athletics - dude, it's been pretty much a wash with both programs underachieving(However, I think it's fair to say Michigan underachieved a little bit more). FSU has won 2 bowl games to our 1 since Rolle arrived. And the FSU defense has been a lot better than Michigan's over that same span - Rolle spearheaded one heckuva defense for the past 3 seasons, and FSU is one of the best feeder schools for star defensive players recently. So, like...whatever.

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:06 PM
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"Rolle spearheaded one

"Rolle spearheaded one heckuva defense for the past 3 seasons"

I'm assuming than no pun was intended?

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:12 PM
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I thought about including it

But I figured MICHIGAN MEN would have no idea about the traditions of some podunk shit school like "FSU"

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July 21st, 2009 at 10:12 PM
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You are probably right.

You are probably right.

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July 21st, 2009 at 6:59 PM
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Dior Moves Up

Dior Mathis went from 3* to 4 as well. LaTwan is very talented, his ranking is justified.

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:04 PM
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He was a 4 star before today.

He was a 4 star before today. And they only re-ranked the top 100, which Mathis was outside of already.

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July 21st, 2009 at 7:39 PM
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Soooo

I'm a 5* Recruit. I'm going to wait until the Spring game to sign. Screw you guys.

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July 21st, 2009 at 10:17 PM
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Scene 1: Bouje at the

Scene 1: Bouje at the bar.

Beautiful young lady: Hi Bouje.
(This is definitely 100% made up)
Bouje: Uh, hi. Can I buy you a drink?

BYL: Oh, sure. I've had such a long day, I just finished up my photo shoot after teaching kindergarten. Those kids are just as rowdy as I am (wink).

Bouje: (Thinks hard about what she means by rowdy. There was no engineering class about this.) I had my share of rowdy classes at Michigan.

BYL: Oh Ann Arbor? I almost went there for education, but decided to attend South Carolina to be closer to home and pursue my modeling career as well.

Bouje: [Dumbstruck] South...Carolina?

BYL: (Touches Bouje's leg) I love the [Game]Cocks.

Bouje: Why would you choose South Carolina? Michigan is much better for education. What a bad choice.

BYL: (Confused) What?

Bouje: It just seems like you could have done better.

BYL: I think you're right. Bye. (Walks away and 5 guys try to buy her a drink and talk to her)

Scene 2: Bouje back at his place.

Bouje roommate: Dude, you said tonight was the night that you were going to bring back a girl. What happened?

Bouje: Nothing worth bringing home. There was this one chick, she was a 6 at best, digging me pretty hard though. She said she models and teaches kindergarten. Then she told me she went to school at South Carolina because it was a good fit. I said, not good enough.

Bouje roommate: Are you retarded?

Bouje: (Shrugs, searches for Erin Andrews videos after putting on his underoos)

Scene, fade to black.

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July 21st, 2009 at 10:22 PM
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Man if only I wasn't -300 I'd +1 you

Great made up story. Too bad it's completely false and also there's a huge hole in your story how could the girl be a 6 and a model? What is she a plus size model?

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July 21st, 2009 at 10:35 PM
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Thank god you're not a

Beautiful young lady: Hi Bouje.
(This is definitely 100% made up)

Thank god you're not a running back, because you are clearly unable to find the hole.

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July 21st, 2009 at 10:34 PM
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I don't think you can find

I don't think you can find the hole

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July 21st, 2009 at 10:35 PM
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JOKE STEALING FAIL

JOKE STEALING FAIL

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July 22nd, 2009 at 9:07 AM
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Well according to this site:

I'm pretty sure the huge hole in the story is a girl talking to you. I love how your response to that clever, although long, joke was "Nuhuh! That's not even true!"...

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July 22nd, 2009 at 11:48 AM
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Wow now I have to defend my

dating skills to you.... Yeah I stopped caring a long time ago

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July 22nd, 2009 at 2:40 PM
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Now this one ...

deserves a couple negative points.

"Too bad it's completely false" OH DEAR BABY JESUS SAVE ME

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July 22nd, 2009 at 11:01 PM
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BYL: (Touches Bouje's leg) I love the [Game]Cocks.

That part had me cracking up.

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July 21st, 2009 at 11:04 PM
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this thread was perhaps one of the

greatest things in the history of the universe.

thanks to everyone.

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July 21st, 2009 at 11:19 PM
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Thanks

:-p

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July 21st, 2009 at 11:27 PM
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i feel like

there should be more than 17 5 star players ... if your top 40 mabye 50 i think your in that elite range JMO

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July 21st, 2009 at 11:30 PM
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Man I got here late. This

Man I got here late. This thread is hysterical.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 10:16 AM
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Let me just add:

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July 22nd, 2009 at 2:47 PM
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Oh boy ...

Bouje treads about as gracefully as a yak on skates, but to be fair:

I don't think that the number of Rhodes Scholars churned out by FSU means it's a great school. They have clearly decided to put a lot of institutional resources on getting those shiny prizes, but it's not a terrific school overall.

That's not to say that Mr. Rolle made a poor decision - he, like FSU, had a singular goal in re: attaining a Rhodes Scholarship, and it was a perfect fit for him. From everything I've read, he is one impressive mofo ... the only thing I have against him is that, like other obscenely high-acheiving people, he kinda makes me feel lame.

I don't think he (Bouje, not Myron) deserves quite this many negative posts, and I'm certain there are people who were wantonly taking points away on every single post just because it was the thing to do. Bouje's cardinal sin appears to be losing his shit once people jump on him, but his early posts were not all that egregious.

/preparing for the onslaught

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July 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 PM
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1. No one's claiming FSU is a

1. No one's claiming FSU is a great school. They are pointing out it's an above average school (or average, by USNWR) that was dedicated to helping Rolle achieve his goals. And he did, which, to me, makes it the perfect fit for Rolle.

2. It's like when you were a kid and you mom kept adding days to your being grounded since you couldn't shut up and just take the initial punishment. Then, once you stopped and started serving the punishment, the sentence was commuted. He'll get his points back once he proves he can be reasonable.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 PM
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I agree witchya

There's just an unappealing trend wherein, once people see the beginning of one of these epic beatdowns, they run around and downgrade his posts just because everyone else is doing it. Or maybe they just want to see how low his point total can get. Either way, I think -480 points or whatever is rather excessive for what the Boujer actually did here.

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July 22nd, 2009 at 3:06 PM
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I hit the down arrow on quite

I hit the down arrow on quite a few posts because I think his debate skills - picking FSU was like driving drunk and making it home!! - are terrible and deserved it. But yeah, the piling on is kinda crazy.

At the same time, reaping sowing shit like that and on and so forth QED.

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