Sharrif Floyd and Kyle Prater earn their 5th stars. Latwan Anderson is #35 and Cullen Christian moves all the way up from a 3* to #60....now if he would just commit already!
http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?SID=880&Year=2010&ra_key=2369
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Sharrif Floyd and Kyle Prater earn their 5th stars. Latwan Anderson is #35 and Cullen Christian moves all the way up from a 3* to #60....now if he would just commit already!
http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?SID=880&Year=2010&ra_key=2369
- No more Boisture in the top 100
- Still no Gardner/Miller/Robinson
- No Eduardo Clements
- Uh wow, Cullen Christian WTF
Yeah the Gardner/Miller/Robinson thing still has me surprised, because they were all supposed to be high 4 stars/5 stars. I'm most surprised by Gardner, because he is said to have been dominating at all the camps.
Its too bad your not a usc or uf fan because you would be pretty excited that all the recruits leaning to your school all seemed to go up in ranking for some reason.
*gasp!* Are you implying this is more than purely coincidence?
why pay the player for 5 years when you can pay the recruiting gurus just once. Everyone has had to make cut backs this year :)
i can pretty much guarantee this has been answered...but does the new top 100 imply re-evaluation of star levels or just re-ordering of the existing rankings? I thought there was talk of Pace and Wilkins possibly receiving additional starrage.
tomorrow they will release the rest of the 250 and on Thursday I believe they will update the stars of people outside the 250. So yes, there is potential in this current cycle that someone like Pace picks up a 4*
why can't rivals just admit that Garnder is a top 100 player already? How many more camp MVPs does he need to win?
According to the Rivals front page, now Bolden is looking like the top QB in MI based on the Elite 11 camp.
Didn't Elite 11 start today? How is he top already?
Yesterday
Bolden may be the most polished of the QBs, but I'll take Gardner's upside and perfect fit for our offense. Gardner is always going to get knocked for his unorthodox throwing methods. Could care less where Gardner ends up rankings wise; all I know that we got a stud athlete that will produce big time for us.
I noticed the same thing about Sharrif Floyd. What was his rating before the current ranking? Now I really hope we get him!
How possible is it that Cullen Christian hasn't committed yet because he wants to see how his rankings shake out? If so, would it hurt us much?
In the article on rivals it said that he was previously #91
Yeah I just noticed that about Floyd's ranking. Thanks though.
Also, OSU commit Jamel Turner fell from #30 out of the Rivals100. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be awesome to have him. But an interesting thing is that he and some other players fell due to off-field issues. I wasn't aware that that determined a player's rating. You would think that a player's rating was just based on skill and talent. Interesting.
It was posted a while back that Turner was having issues and he dropped out of school, so that would be cause for a monumental fall.
"How possible is it that Cullen Christian hasn't committed yet because he wants to see how his rankings shake out? If so, would it hurt us much?"
Take a deep breath, step away from the recruiting for a bit.
He's actually on the right path. I don't want to say it's the only reason, because Cullen has told me he just wants to make sure.
Initially though, he did feel like his rankings weren't up to his abilities. He wanted to go as many places, and show what he could do to get his rankings up. So, he's not that far off of what Cullen has been doing.
You're just a temperature in a shape. Temperature? Cold. Shape? Ugly.
Did you hear about the black Harvard prof being reported by his neighbors for breaking in to his own home and getting harassed by Cambridge cops? God I love it when Cambridge shows how progressive it really is.
Barring some shenanigans like a school paying him or hiring his dad or something, Christian will be a Wolverine.
Committed players don't sell the subscriptions. Rivals has only 1 committed player in their top 10 and 20 in their top 50. That implies either the top players wait longer to make their selections or committing early weighs down your ranking. You decide.
Bryce Brown last year.
Terrelle Pryor the year before.
Both #1 on by the end of the year as they couldn't decide.
Just more support for you.
(Not that they didn't deserve 5*s, but, being #1 and all, ya know)
I think it's more that the kids at the top want the attention, and want to make their announcement at the Army game or on national signing day because that's what the previous guys have done. They feel they have to keep everyone in suspense, like Brown and Pryor, who went even further and didn't decide until after signing day.
Speaking of which, does anyone else hope that Bryce Brown, he of the "$10 a month to find out where I'm going!" fails?
Or, well, I don't want a kid to fail... but learns a HARD lesson?
I don't want anyone to fail. Obviously, not everyone is going to make it to the NFL, although that's not everyone's goal. I figure I will be better off (in bed) wishing bad upon no one. Or at least I try not too.
You're probably right, but when a kid at 18 is convinced he's that important, it chaps me.
One get your facts straight before you talk about some kid you have no idea what he is about. His mentor or something like that charged the fee for updates on his recruitment. Your comment is completely unfounded and makes me believe your some arrogant fool.
Another factor is that anyone in the top 5 knows that he's likely going to have a spot available for him anywhere he wants to go. Less OMG recruits probably take into consideration the fact that their options may narrow as time goes on.
Devin Gardner was seen walking on water at a camp, the title of the article would be "Michigan Commit Can't Swim" For whatever reason, Rivals just doesn't give him any respect.
Prater would be really nice to get too. Did any of our unranked guys earn 3*?
This was Top 100 and they only have changed the ratings of those in the Top 100 so far and 3 stars are never in the Top 100. The Top 250 should be coming out in a couple of days.
they're not releasing the additional rankings until tomorrow, but I could be making that up.
Is our chances with Prater still good?
Imagine Stonum, Stokes, Prater being the outside WR.
No, they aren't as good as everyone had hoped, or hyped.
but it seems like we're still in the picture to some degree...
I have a feeling that our chances with Prater would be a lot better with a good season.
I'd thought Stokes was more likely to be a slot. How about Prater, Stonum, and we have an armada of slot ninjas?
totally agree.
What about Miller?
if you knew how ridiculous "Is Our Chances" reads. It reads as stupid and as unintelligible as it sounds.
Love,
The Grammar Police
On what your definition of the word is is.
Who is Floyd's #1 right now? Where are we?
Conventional wisdom and unsubstantiated rumors all point to PSU being in the pole position at this point. Insider over at GBW insists that Michigan is in a much better position with Floyd than it seems in the open, and that we will definitely get our shot at him via an official visit.
A janitor heard him whistling "Hail to the Victors" while dropping a deuce.
Plus a million if I could.
PSU is going to have a ridiculous class, unfortunately.
How much does everyone wanna bet that Gardner has somehow actually dropped in the rankings despite dominating at camp?
Would anyone prefer he rise in the rankings and suck at the camps?
Recruiting is all about aesthetics. And rubbing it in your rivals(no pun) faces. For instance, Brett Gallimore sucked more dick than any Michigan commit ever. HOWEVA, he was a top 100 player on rivals - which allowed me to brag about him for a couple years before it was time to accept that he sucked.
Recruiting is a numbers game. I want to see everyone with a 4-star and a 6.0 next to their name. I don't give a shit if they do nothing at Michigan - it's all about what we think before they play a down.
MGoBlog has enough clout that Brian should be able to create his own recruiting lists and heavily favor M commits.
Best. Question. Ever.
Fuck. Shit. Up.
I bet he drops to 3 stars because that's all RR can recruit.
Most of the player's tag-lines are descriptions with stats, then this for #91.
"The top prospect in Tennessee sports a 3.8 GPA."
Best Edukation ever!
He's a Rhodes Scholar. I think it worked out pretty well.
He's a smart kid he could have and should have done better than FSU.
FSU=Joke of an educational institution
And yes I am still bitter that he chose FSU for it's great academics over such other schools as Michigan and Florida. If he had picked Florida it wouldn't be a big deal but it's like the kid being the #1 recruit in the country saying "I want to go to the NFL and be a big time player in College Football" and then settling on BGSU.
You're way off, FYI. At no point did he say "I intend on going to the highest ranked college in the NCAA according to US News & World Report." He wanted to go somewhere that would both challenge him academically and prepare him for the NFL.
He is now a Rhodes Scholar and is projected to go in the first round of the NFL draft next year. Looks like the joke's on you.
And if you did a combination of the two Academics+athletics... FSU at that time was hardly at the top.
FSU hasn't been a huge power in football for a while and academically is a (pardon my french) complete shithole. If he had gone to the "best of both worlds" school he would have gone to Florida top 15 program in football and top 40 school or Michigan Top 25 program in football and top 25 school. But no he chose to go to FSU which is a Top 25 program in football (at best now) and a bottom 25 school in the nation (as far as D-1 programs go)
So yes I still do question his decision to go to FSU. Now if he really meant "I want to go to a good football school and a college that will not challenge me so that I can get sweet grades then yes he probably picked the best college.
And how is the joke on me I know that he's a Rhodes Scholar and is going to Oxford (I think) and is delaying going to the NFL...
Because you think his decision was poor, yet he accomplished exactly what he wanted to. Just because Florida is ranked in the top 40 (unconfirmed by me, FYI) doesn't mean that they are as good as FSU in terms of academics among athletes, or in his particular program. But goddamn don't you know everything?
I'm calling bullshit on FSU being in the bottom 25 of all D1 football schools. For these purposes, I'll assume you meant FBS, since LOTS of FCS schools are ranked below FSU.
Here are FBS schools (certainly not exhaustive) ranked below FSU.
Oklahoma
Oregon
South Carolina
Tennessee
BYU
TCU
Ohio University
Kentucky
Washington State
Arizona State
South Florida
Colorado State
Arkansas
Utah
Kansas State
LSU
Cincinnati
Louisville
Mississippi
Miss St
Oklahoma State
Oregon State
Temple
Texas Tech
West Virginia
I stopped at 25, and I was about halfway through tier 3 out of 4 according to US News. I also skipped over nearly all the non-BCS schools.
FSU is #102
Alabama is #83
Auburn is #96
Thug U is #51
OSU (the worst school in the Big Ten(11) is #55)
UGA is #58
And all of these schools provide better football and education than FSU... Wow... That was hard.
If you really think that FSU is such a great school.... Well I'm sorry but there is no help for you because the school blows.
Just to prove to you that you are either retarded or just really bad at reading lists, OSU is certainly not the lowest ranked school in the Big Ten (as much as we'd like to think so).
55 - OSU
61 - Minnesota
66(tie)- Purdue
66(tie)- Iowa
71(tie)- Indiana
71(tie)- Michigan State
Ohio State is very much in the middle of the Big Ten, in fact they are the median school.
But everyone says that OSU is the worst school in the Big Ten and yes I did see that. I decided to put common perceptions of schools and also none of those schools are good at football.
And is there really that much difference between the 55th and 71st... not really..
I'm retarded... Yeah I just graduated from Michigan in Engineering.... Yeah I'm an idiot.. Engineers can't read/do statistics/look at data...
You can take those 750 mgopoints and shove them up your ass
Then try... you know... reading... and looking at data and lists and stuff. Do they teach students in the engineering program LOGIC? Because that is another deficit that you forgot to mention.
You may have just graduated from UM in engineering but you might want to go to the Everest Institute for some help with your reading comprehension.
winner winner chicken dinner
Ha I knew he was going to say he was a Michigan graduate. Pretty sad that fellow alumni think that other schools are inferior and are incapable of providing an good education. Getting an education from Michigan is nice, but there plenty of other ways to get an solid education and build a successful career.
Hey engineer, 55>71? A course in remedial counting is also in order.
Lording your Michigan degree as a sign of intellectual superiority is idiotic. Lording it over a forum comprised of people who have the same fucking degree as you is something entirely more pathetic.
I know that most people here have Michigan degrees I wasn't trying to "lord" my Michigan degree as a sign of intellectual superiority. I was just trying to say
"I'm not a fucking idiot". But no I'm on the same level as Bluefront and McFarlin I should go and play in traffic
Having a Michigan degree does not mean you're intelligent.
So yeah when you guys went to personal attacks on me that's when I get pissed off. You have no idea about me, what my intelligence level is or what I do for a living.
Just because I have an opinion on something doesn't mean that I should get castrated by the community like this.... This is ridiculous.
I believe you're referring to my post, and I never said that are retarded. I said that you are either retarded or bad at reading lists. You could have said "yeah, I must have read that list wrong" and you would have satisfied one of the criteria. Instead, you jumped right on the retarded option like you wanted it.
I did not say you are retarded, nor did I say you are retarded AND bad at reading lists. My comment implied you were only one of the two.
Example: If you said to me, WolvinLA, you are either retarded or brunette, I wouldn't be offended.
You're either retarded or double retarded!
jk jk
but srsly...
When your opinion is stupid, people tend to call you stupid.
Lording your Michigan degree as a sign of intellectual superiority is idiotic. Lording it over a forum comprised of people who have the same fucking degree as you is something entirely more pathetic.
lolz u posted 2x
There was obviously a mistake at the Registrar's Office.
P.S. - I'm sorry Rolle turned out to be more successful than you. I know it hurts. Time heals all wounds.
engineer huh? take a wild guess as to how many posters here are engineers. i'll give you a hint: it's a lot. and we all manage to post (relatively) coherent, rational thoughts
See if you can find the relationship between your point total and the number of times you've posted on this thread.
Do you really think that winning the Rhodes Scholarship is based merely on "getting sweet grades"?? You do realize what winning one of those entails, right?
I just like to talk shit. Getting a Rhodes scholar is like getting a high school diploma anybody can do it. (turn on your sarcasm meter)
Nevermind... everything you write is demonstrably false, so why bother.
No. He doesn't. He really thinks that the Rhodes Scholarship people are only looking at his "sweet grades" and not reading his papers, doing personal interviews, etc. And that's why he is an idiot.
I don't have the link, but Rolle has said that Florida State actually sold him on their academics by coming up with a detailed plan specifically tailored to him.
I don't have proof of this so just take it from my Uncle who never lies and is a high school football coach
You are treading in dangerous waters, my friend. Rolle liked FSU better than Michigan. Deal with it. FSU offered him everything that he needed to accomplish his goals. It is ass-backwards to claim that he made the wrong choice when things have worked out so well for him.
But it just goes to show you that when a recruit says something like that that it means absolutely nothing.
Unless, of course, they actually mean it, like Rolle did, and go out and achieve exactly what they hope to, like Rolle did.
No one is going to disagree with you that recruits are not always to be trusted, but Rolle is basically the worst example of that fact that you could use. William Campbell is a good one. Use him next time
For being FSU's first Rhode Scholar (and probably last). I'll say it again. FSU IS A SHITTY SCHOOL. Going there for Myron Rolle is like a Devin Gardner going to a school for the blind and deaf and trying out for the football team. He's an all-star comparatively just like Rolle is an all-star academically at FSU.
It's a joke.
1) He is not their first Rhodes Scholar
2) If all your argument boils down to is "FSU suckz!!!," then there is no point in talking to you. Have fun being super bitter
"last"
http://www.fsu.edu/indexTOFStory.html?lead.rhodes-oshea
Oops. Guess you're still talking out your ass.
Since I'll assume you have trouble reading, he's actually the 4th and 2nd student-athlete to get one.
I thought you had to be an athlete to be considered...
Edit: As per Wikipedia one of the four standards by which a candidate is judged is energy to use one's talents to the full, as exemplified by fondness for and success in sports.
So I guess you don't have to be an athlete, I don't think Bill Clinton was, but it's probably a big help.
Is just about the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read. Oh my shit.
Unbelievable. I don't like calling names, but you're one of the dumbest posters on here, after today. Myron Rolle is the 4th (FOURTH) student to receive a Rhodes Scholarship from FSU, and the third since 2005.
Wait, WHAT??? AT A SHITTY SCHOOL????
EDIT: Wow, you guys really beat me to it.
"and the third since 2005"
Which is 2 more than Michigan during that time....
Ummmmm.......
I really could give a shit. But yes the #102 school in the nation is a shitty school. And when you claim to want to go to Med School and want to combine athletics and academics FSU should not be at the top of the pile.
I don't care if I get a million negative points. Do I really have to go digging through Brian's posts that said "FSU REALLY DAH FUCK" to prove my point.
Take it easy, bouje. Why don't you sit this next one out, stop talking for a while.
Sorry I will vehemently disagree with anyone that says that going to FSU for academic reasons is a great call.
Are you really so arrogant and stupid you can't accept the idea a school might be very good at one thing and not so good at another? Or that it's more about what you, as an individual, push yourself to achieve than what your school is ranked? FSU, in Rolle's opinion, was the best place to achieve his goal of being a Rhodes Scholar. And, I'll be damned, he did it. So what's your point?
Quit being butt-hurt he picked FSU over Michigan and deal with reality.
And people make stupid decisions that work out great all of the time. Why are we praising him for making a stupid decision that just happened to work out?
Why not praise the guy who drove home drunk but didn't get a DUI. Hey it worked out for the best and it was a poor decision.
Why not congratulate the kid who decided to drop out of high school to make it as an actor or an artist or whatever.
Just because he achieved his goals doesn't mean that he made the right decision and lied about it in the process.
FSU = #102 in US News ranking and a top 25 Program
If he REALLY wanted the best of both world's he could have and should have gone to
Miami (that Miami), OSU, Michigan, Florida, etc etc etc. Florida is an awful school and congratulations are in order to him for achieving his goals but that doesn't mean that you need to slobber on his nob.
You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. Comparing Rolle working his way to a Rhodes Scholarship to a guy who drives drunk and makes it home? You are being fucking ridiculous.
Rolle worked his ass off to get what he has. He didn't luck into it. Why do you give a flying shit where he did it? Oh, right, because it wasn't Michigan. Sorry.
So the message boxes really do get this thin. Cool. Pretty soon there will only be space for one letter per line.
http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2005/09/football-recruiting-board-updated.html
Editorial Opinion FSU? Um... okay. I'd like to reference my recruit-to-English translation guide:
"Academics are extremely important to me" - I don't care about academics in the slightest.
"No, seriously, the academic reputation of a school is critical in my decision making." - My mom is in the room.
Further proof that academic reputation means nearly zero to anyone looking at a potential NFL career--and that those it really means something to go to Stanford anyway. Not that Rolle is a bad guy or FSU is a bad place to go.
Clearly I'm not alone in this thinking that FSU is a premier institution of higher learning *snicker*
Bouje, if you read about his recruitment, you'll find that while Michigan was telling him about their bachelors of general studies, FSU was showing him how they could help him become a Rhodes scholar. It was a blantant mistake on michigan's part, as they pretty said "whatever" to his stated goal. FSU clearly remained true to their word.
You, on the other hand, have repeatedly demonstrated yourself to be one of the most stupid and unjustifiably arrogant posters on this site. And this is the dumbest battle you've fought yet. That's impressive.
The difference between then and now is the fact that HE WON A FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP. He wouldn't have done that here. Do you know why? Because we wanted him to major in zoology or some shit so we could be sure he'd stay eligible. He made the right choice, you fucking retard.
You can't pick your major....
I've always wondered what being functionally retarded is like, please tell me about it.
Last I checked when you go to Michigan they don't make you do a major... But ya know as has been clearly shown by the MGoBlog community I'm an idiot.
Functionally?
Everytime you comment I get slightly excited to give you another negative. I've even considered creating a thread to debate the merits of you, bluefront and mcfarlin. Consider yourself honored.
Comparing me to the likes of Bluefront and Mcfarlin because I said that the #102 school is a shitty school... Wow...
Congrats to Rolle for getting his Rhodes Scholar. I'm tired of this shit. FSU is the best school academically in the nation and Myron Rolle chose the best school throughout his recruitment. My original post I completely withdraw because of it's stupidity and clearly incorrect opinion about the greatness of FSU.
All Hail Seminole Nation! Chop Chop Chop!
The part that bums me out is that bouje will likely just open an account under a new name so that he doesn't negative elleventy billion points, and we'll just think he's some other noob. Look for someone with a join date of somewhere around 2009-7-22 or so.
Be a man bouje, don't do that.
But I won't
No, that's a good thing bouje. I actually admire you for sticking it out. I won't -1 your last post now.
EDIT: Nevermind, I had already done it and I can't undo it. Sorry bouje.
I think it's pathetic that no matter what I said throughout this thread people just down-pointed me... Here is what else I wanted to say in my above post
But I won't. And the thing that is really going to suck is that you guys won't ever let me live this down. And that's fine. We'll see if the internet ever really forgives and forgets or if whenever I post anything if I'll just get downgraded because of my opinion of Rolle and FSU. We will see if YOU POSTERS have integrity to just actually down-point people for posting stupid shit or if you'll just mob people just for being "bouje" or "mcfarlin" or whoever.
Hhhmmm. Attacking someone you don't know for doing something you don't understand, the appealing to our integrity? Funny.
Hhhmmm. Attacking someone you don't know for doing something you don't understand, the appealing to our integrity? Funny.
He's doing all of his Scout Brothers proud right now. he has probably linked this thread to Scout as evidence of how he is fighting to defend Michigan! All Hail!
I think this is msg box is the skinniest it's ever gotten. Sorry this post just took up the whole page. Yeah it clearly doesn't take much to amuse me.
No, this is the skinniest it;s ever gotten.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMed
This thread is ridiculous!
You can't even see how many points you are getting.
The letters aren't even in the box anymore. Another response and the internets might explode.
KEWL!
oh my god its full of stars
I see Blue. He looks glorious.
Go Blue.
Will you shut up and listen to me! Shut down all the garbage smashers on the detention level, will ya? Do you copy? Shut down all the garbage smashers on the detention level!
I didn't down vote you.
BOOOOOOOO, TIMMMAAY, BOOOOOOO
But I won't. And the thing that is really going to suck is that you guys won't ever let me live this down. And that's fine. We'll see if the internet ever really forgives and forgets or if whenever I post anything if I'll just get downgraded because of my opinion of Rolle and FSU. We will see if YOU POSTERS have integrity to just actually down-point people for posting stupid shit or if you'll just mob people just for being "bouje" or "mcfarlin" or whoever.
I didn't down vote all of your posts for being "bouje"
I down voted them because I wanted to downvote you 100 times for the first thing you said but I am only allowed to once per comment.
It's not that you said FSU is a bad school. It's that you said it's a bad school for Myron Rolle when he's become a RHODES SCHOLAR there. It's also your appealing to the US World Report's numbers to prove your point and then disregarding them completely and naming OSU the worst academic school in the Big Ten while simultaneously pointing to OSU's academic ranking and exclaiming at how that proved how bad a school FSU is. FWIW I appreciate your never say die attitude.
in the Big Ten and so I used USNWR to show how bad the "worst" school is in the Big Ten... I saw when I posted that there were several other Big Ten schools below OSU but I thought "Nah it's common knowledge that OSU is the worst school in the Big Ten they'll understand" but no I get torn a new one saying that I can't read lists and that I'm a fucking retard.
I've said all along FSU is not a good school and it was the incorrect choice for Myron Rolle and that Rolle would have been an NFL player AND a Rhodes scholar at other schools such as Florida and Michigan. Which are much better combinations of Athletics and Academics
Maybe that's because you've proven that you can't read and that you ARE a fucking retard?
Your own nominal judgement of FSU is an insufficient argument. Your points have all been refuted with cold facts throughout this ordeal. You've been told, repeatedly, that Michigan did not take his pursuit of a Rhodes scholarhsip as seriously as Florida State. You also are unaware that FSU paces UF in quite a few fields lately(and I say this as a UF attendee right now). Also also, FSU and Michigan have been a wash on the football field the past few season. And Florida was not quite Florida yet when Rolle committed.
The crux of your argument is that FSU is "not a good school," and people have ripped you a new one because that's "not a good argument." It's all rather simple, and you've made it worse by finding it necessary to defend yourself to the death as if this thread is your Alamo. Get a fucking grip on life, compadre.
OSU is not "the worst school in the Big Ten", it does in fact have many well respected programs especially at the graduate level. As does Florida State. Your entire argument is so ill informed that it's staggering.
As the poster below pointed out, Rolle was not FSU's first Rhode's Scholar and actually he wasn't even their first student athlete to receive the Rhode's Scholorship. If I'm not mistaken, there was a Track and Field Athlete (Garrett Johnson) who received the scholorship a few years ago and was a mentor of sorts to Rolle while he was at FSU. They sold him on the fact that others before him have done the same thing and listed out a plan on how he would accomplish his goals. Also, he wants to be a brain surgeon and FSU has a great school for that as well. So yeah I believe there was a lot that went into Rolle chosing FSU and it seems like they did a good job of selling to him as well.
What does this guys have against FSU? Did a mugger dressed up as a FSU Seminole shoot and kill your parents in a dark alley after coming home from the theater when you were a child?
And if he won a national championship and was drafted in the top 5 of the NFL draft after attending Bowling Green, you would say that he had a successful time there because he accomplished his goals, yes? It's not like Rolle is still hoping to be a Rhodes Scholar, he IS a Rhodes Scholar. He has achieved his dreams, and if you care so much about his situation, then you should be incredibly happy for him
Believe it or not, football coaches do care a lot about the grades of the players they are recruiting. Not only do players need to qualify initially through the NCAA clearinghouse, but they need to stay eligible while in school. Keep in mind that many of the top football programs are good to excellent academic schools, this is certainly a concern. Knowing that a kid has a 3.8 in high school implies that this is one kid that the coach (likely) won't have to worry about academically.
them than WOo hoo high gpa...
It's like Rivals just ran out of good things to say about people and were like "we haven't used anyone's gpa yet"
...to honestly express my admiration for a board full of Michigan fans who are willing to defend the decisions of a kid who didn't end up going here. I can't think of any other college football board where this discussion would ever take place.
Only 3 white guys in the top 50. What's the deal?
And not a single Hispanic!
Barry Obama will fix that. Soon we will have government run high school recruiting rankings. You'll get a +1 if you are hispanic, +2 if you are white (since they are the minority in college football) and +3 if you are an illegal alien.
Everyone must prescribe to the ranking service as well. It will be taken out of your paycheck. The amount will be determined by what your income level is.
A czar will be appointed with the title of "High School Recruiting Ranking Czar" to oversee this process. He will be payed at least $1 million per year.
You're an idiot.
I think you're an idiot too, but only because this is not the place for political banter. However, it's nice to see I'm not the only right winger on the board - I thought I was for a little while.
Depending on your definition of "right wing", I'm a registered Libertarian.
Me too, and coachbt....
Nope, I'm pretty staunch over here.
There are quite a few R-wingers around here, myself included.
Right wing pot head in LA. How's that working out for you?
Turtles are republicans
fuck up
So I was looking at guys in the top 100 that we are technically in on and have a technical shot at. My list looks like:
#1 - Seantrel Henderson
#4 - Kyle Prater
#9 - Sharrif Floyd
#10 - Jeff Luc
#26 - Khairi Fortt
#35 - Latwan Anderson
#50 - Tony Jefferson
#60 - Cullen Christian
#85 - Sean Parker
Did I miss anyone? Granted a few of them are potentially long shots, but figured I would just throw it out there.
If only I could convince these kids to come to Michigan. Maybe if I befriend them on facebook....
Don't do it!
GENIUS!
tell them you're going to like every single post and status they have until they commit to Michigan. See how much they like having their notifications flooded by every single member of mgoblog.
"Sharrif Floyd took the 'Which Harry Potter Character are you' quiz and the result is Cho Chang."
#86 - Marquis Flowers
He's taking officials to Michigan and Notre Dame
I'm willing to bet that everyone in the world telling you that you're the greatest thing in the world is not the easiest thing for the psyche of a 17 year old to handle. I'm sure it's fun, but so is heroin- you're right, too strong of a comparison, but I digress.
I'd bet it's healthier for RR and Barwis to take a kid -
who's already been evaluated to be the type of kid he needs to run his system which has proven itself at the highest level of college football
- and instill some real confidence in him that stems from hard work and accomplishment tempered with a bit of scorn for the media that under-valued him...
Than to throw in him in the fickle spotlight of the media that will throw him out in the cold the second there's a bigger story.
Of course, if I'm a kid I'd want that attention, but looking back, I'm glad I never had to deal with it at 17... give it to me now, well that's a different story ;)
Then again, I could be completely wrong.
Higher ranked kids are statistically more likely to succeed. I prefer to play the odds than to hope for outliers and some nebulous arguments about attitude.
That said, we do need people that fit the system and we should trust RR's evaluation over those of the recruiting services. It's a fine line.
We have yet to see how RichRod's recruiting classes are going to turn out, but I am already getting a little tired of hearing about "system" recruits. Especially when we're talking about defensive players. And FWIW, Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma all run a variation of the spread and they don't recruit 3* "system" guys.
I, too am tiring of the mantra of "wait til he gets HIS players"--as if Rodriguez runs some sort of super secret offensive package that only he knows how to run and only he knows who will work in it. I do think, or at least hope, that Rich Rodriguez doesn't all into this mindset and would very much like to land 25 5* recruits every season. I don't believe he came to Michigan at all thinking he'd win big with West Virginia type talent.
Most Michigan fans are condescending fucktards who have little idea that the school you graduate from is secondary to your own will to succeed. Fuck, just look at dex. He graduated from Michigan and he's trying to turn tricks on craigslist.
FSU is a good school. But by all means, bouje, continue to huff n puff ridiculously about Rolle's decisions that have steered him into a Rhodes scholar and future NFL pick.
Agreed, for the most part. Where you go as an undergrad is pretty much meaningless if you don't intend to go to grad school. Many Michigan grads get out of college and are then shocked to see how competent and intelligent their peers who went to less prestigous universities are. I was somewhat guilty of this and it was very humbling (although I will maintain that the quality of education provided by most SEC schools to most of their graduates does, indeed, suck per the stereotype).
Was Rolle just being Rolle. I think that Myron could have gone ANYWHERE and have been an NFL pick and a Rhodes Scholar.
You have that high of an opinion on his intelligence, yet you routinely call his decision to attend FSU stupid? Does not compute.
and I also think that he's an amazing athlete and an all around great person from everything that I've heard and I think that the backlash against me thinking that it was a poor decision almost proves that.
But just because he's an extremely smart individual doesn't mean that he'll always make the correct choices and I still stand by my point that FSU was not the best choice for him for both academics and athletics.
It's hard to be a fucking Rhodes Scholar when you major in General Studies. Do you know what a Rhodes Scholarship is, per chance?
And yes I do know what a Rhodes Scholarship is. He could have gone anywhere and done this. Right because at Michigan you have to Major in General Studies (*cough* Patrick Omameh *cough cough*)
Personal ... Patrick Chuba Omameh was born Dec. 29, 1989 ... enrolled in the School of Engineering.
(He's scholarship)
The reason FSU was a better choice for him than Michigan goes beyond the majors he could have chosen. Here is a quick recap of his recruitment to help you understand why:
Rolle: I want to major in pre-med, become a doctor, and try to become a Rhodes Scholar.
Michigan: That's nice. Here's the academic services we have in place for all student athletes to help them stay eligible.
FSU: We'll tailor your academic plan to help you achieve your goals. We also have other students trying for the Rhodes scholarship, we'll have them give you advice to help you along.
Rolle: I choose the school where I'm most likely to acheive my goals, which is the place that actually takes them seriously.
Just because athletes can and do choose majors besides general studies at Michigan does not mean Michigan was the best place for Rolle to accomplish what he wanted to accomplish.
Patrick Omameh's middle name is Chuba? That's awesome.
Oh, and bouje? You're an idiot. Go back to mlive. Your peers miss you.
How do you know whether a General Studies degree would affect your chances at a Rhodey*?
Don't believe the media hype - it's not that bad a degree. It's LSA without the foreign language req., which isn't all that difficult anyway. They should probably rename the damn thing, because it sounds lamer than it is. A GS degree is more difficult to attain than kinesiology or communications, IME.
*If you know ANYTHING about the Rhodes Scholarship program, you know that the cool kids call them Rhodeys.
Actually, I'm going to run with this one. If you think it wasn't FSU that got him the RS, but that it was Rolle being Rolle, doesn't that imply that he could have accomplished this feat at any school in, say, the top 150 schools in the country? Let's assume, as you said, that Rolle could earn a Rhodes Scholarship at any FBS school.
Then maybe Myron Rolle likes the campus better, or the weather, or the girls, or Bobby Bowden. Keep in mind also Bouje, FSU is no powerhouse in 2009, but 4 years ago they were much better than they are now.
bouje, how do you read your name? The only way I can comprehend it is " blow-jay". I'm not sure. Is that french for douche? Maybe russian? All I know is that you are acting quite "fagelicious"......
EDIT: In the time it took me to write this, blow-jay went from -100 points (roughly), to -197.
DAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!
is nearly as fail as the shitfest earlier in this thread.
potato salad
potato salad
"I still stand by my point that FSU was not the best choice for him for both academics and athletics."
You, sir, are the gift that keeps on giving. I think you've been pounded to shit on your incredulous academic argument("Hey fucktard, you might be a Rhodes Scholar but you still made the wrong choice! I'm going to continue to ignore the point that Michigan cared just a little less than FSU did when it came to tailoring an academic plan for Mr. Rolle and use +1000 mana to boost my douchebaggery!), but as for the athletics - dude, it's been pretty much a wash with both programs underachieving(However, I think it's fair to say Michigan underachieved a little bit more). FSU has won 2 bowl games to our 1 since Rolle arrived. And the FSU defense has been a lot better than Michigan's over that same span - Rolle spearheaded one heckuva defense for the past 3 seasons, and FSU is one of the best feeder schools for star defensive players recently. So, like...whatever.
"Rolle spearheaded one heckuva defense for the past 3 seasons"
I'm assuming than no pun was intended?
Dior Mathis went from 3* to 4 as well. LaTwan is very talented, his ranking is justified.
He was a 4 star before today. And they only re-ranked the top 100, which Mathis was outside of already.
I'm a 5* Recruit. I'm going to wait until the Spring game to sign. Screw you guys.
Scene 1: Bouje at the bar.
Beautiful young lady: Hi Bouje.
(This is definitely 100% made up)
Bouje: Uh, hi. Can I buy you a drink?
BYL: Oh, sure. I've had such a long day, I just finished up my photo shoot after teaching kindergarten. Those kids are just as rowdy as I am (wink).
Bouje: (Thinks hard about what she means by rowdy. There was no engineering class about this.) I had my share of rowdy classes at Michigan.
BYL: Oh Ann Arbor? I almost went there for education, but decided to attend South Carolina to be closer to home and pursue my modeling career as well.
Bouje: [Dumbstruck] South...Carolina?
BYL: (Touches Bouje's leg) I love the [Game]Cocks.
Bouje: Why would you choose South Carolina? Michigan is much better for education. What a bad choice.
BYL: (Confused) What?
Bouje: It just seems like you could have done better.
BYL: I think you're right. Bye. (Walks away and 5 guys try to buy her a drink and talk to her)
Scene 2: Bouje back at his place.
Bouje roommate: Dude, you said tonight was the night that you were going to bring back a girl. What happened?
Bouje: Nothing worth bringing home. There was this one chick, she was a 6 at best, digging me pretty hard though. She said she models and teaches kindergarten. Then she told me she went to school at South Carolina because it was a good fit. I said, not good enough.
Bouje roommate: Are you retarded?
Bouje: (Shrugs, searches for Erin Andrews videos after putting on his underoos)
Scene, fade to black.
Great made up story. Too bad it's completely false and also there's a huge hole in your story how could the girl be a 6 and a model? What is she a plus size model?
Beautiful young lady: Hi Bouje.
(This is definitely 100% made up)
Thank god you're not a running back, because you are clearly unable to find the hole.
I don't think you can find the hole
JOKE STEALING FAIL
I'm pretty sure the huge hole in the story is a girl talking to you. I love how your response to that clever, although long, joke was "Nuhuh! That's not even true!"...
dating skills to you.... Yeah I stopped caring a long time ago
deserves a couple negative points.
"Too bad it's completely false" OH DEAR BABY JESUS SAVE ME
That part had me cracking up.
greatest things in the history of the universe.
thanks to everyone.
:-p
there should be more than 17 5 star players ... if your top 40 mabye 50 i think your in that elite range JMO
Man I got here late. This thread is hysterical.
Bouje treads about as gracefully as a yak on skates, but to be fair:
I don't think that the number of Rhodes Scholars churned out by FSU means it's a great school. They have clearly decided to put a lot of institutional resources on getting those shiny prizes, but it's not a terrific school overall.
That's not to say that Mr. Rolle made a poor decision - he, like FSU, had a singular goal in re: attaining a Rhodes Scholarship, and it was a perfect fit for him. From everything I've read, he is one impressive mofo ... the only thing I have against him is that, like other obscenely high-acheiving people, he kinda makes me feel lame.
I don't think he (Bouje, not Myron) deserves quite this many negative posts, and I'm certain there are people who were wantonly taking points away on every single post just because it was the thing to do. Bouje's cardinal sin appears to be losing his shit once people jump on him, but his early posts were not all that egregious.
/preparing for the onslaught
1. No one's claiming FSU is a great school. They are pointing out it's an above average school (or average, by USNWR) that was dedicated to helping Rolle achieve his goals. And he did, which, to me, makes it the perfect fit for Rolle.
2. It's like when you were a kid and you mom kept adding days to your being grounded since you couldn't shut up and just take the initial punishment. Then, once you stopped and started serving the punishment, the sentence was commuted. He'll get his points back once he proves he can be reasonable.
There's just an unappealing trend wherein, once people see the beginning of one of these epic beatdowns, they run around and downgrade his posts just because everyone else is doing it. Or maybe they just want to see how low his point total can get. Either way, I think -480 points or whatever is rather excessive for what the Boujer actually did here.
I hit the down arrow on quite a few posts because I think his debate skills - picking FSU was like driving drunk and making it home!! - are terrible and deserved it. But yeah, the piling on is kinda crazy.
At the same time, reaping sowing shit like that and on and so forth QED.