Please oh please would some other MGoBloggers help out in the Operation sports corrections thread for 360. They just updated them last night with position changes that make no sense despite my objections. Craig Roh at WDE, Jarrod Wilson at FS, etc.
NCAA 13: The Bargaining Stage
Screenshot via Operation Sports
I has been nine days since the release of EA Sports's latest iteration of their NCAA Football series. It speaks to the power college football holds over my soul that, for the ninth day in a row, I will play this game for an extensive period of time.
You see, NCAA Football 13 is not a great game. In fact, it's not even a particularly good one. For every advancement from last year's edition, there's a new glitch or gameplay issue that mars the playing experience. This isn't new, of course—you could say the same about every edition since NCAA 05—but it's especially true for a game that had so much initial promise but once again fails to completely deliver.
Then again, I'm still playing, with two active dynasties and a burgeoning Heisman Challenge that weds my favorite NFL player of all time to the school I attended. For me, it's an impossible-to-shake relic of my childhood: eager anticipation, the midnight release (yes, I went there), the first sleepless night (always starting with a Michigan dynasty), the download of fully-named rosters, the ritualistic ass-kickings handed to my little brother, and so on. For me, NCAA is as much a staple of summer as hot dogs and baseball, and I've come to terms with the fact that the game will inevitably disappoint, and I will inevitably spend countless hours playing it anyway.
I know I'm not the only one like this, so this review will be a little different; yes, I'll lay out the positives and negatives, but much of this post will be dedicated to finding ways to enjoy this game in spite of itself. Because let's be honest: if you're reading this, you probably bought the thing already.
The hallmark advancement of this game is the long-overdue overhaul of the passing system. No longer do all your passes fly on the same trajectory, begging to be intercepted by a leaping linebacker or that corner who's not even looking. Now touch passes actually have—wait for it—touch, allowing you to drop a slick pass in between zones or launch a bomb over everyone. I love to run a passing spread or air raid offense, so to say this is a welcome change would be an understatement.
Another long-overdue tweak is the elimination of superhuman defenders; the linebacker playing the short middle zone doesn't climb the ladder to pick off a wide-open post route, and that cornerback whose back is facing you won't stick his hands over his head and somehow intercept that fly route when he's beaten by a good three yards. Again, this is a huge step in the right direction.
On top of those changes, this year saw the addition of hundreds of new animations for the receiver. This is not a video put out by EA, but a highlight I saved from one of my own dynasty games:
The height of realism? Okay, probably not, though it's worth pointing out that I've seen that animation exactly once in the time I've poured into this game. There are many others, including Calvin Johnson-esque one-handers that will make you rise from your recliner before pausing to check out the instant replay in super-slow-mo. This game has its moments, to be sure, and many of them occur when you're airing it out downfield.
The game encourages a far more disciplined approach to playing quarterback, as well. Receiver icons don't appear until the player is "looking" for the ball; an immediate throw after the snap results in an ugly incompletion at best, an interception at worst. The game now executes a 3-, 5-, or 7-step drop for you, and throwing in a rhythm with your drop really does produce the best results. Recklessly rolling out when the play doesn't call for such will usually end in a sack; if you want to take advantage of your mobile quarterback, learn how to step up in the pocket and get under an edge-rushing DE to break a play open. These changes make the passing game not just a new experience, but a very enjoyable one, though there's two large drawbacks that I'll cover later.
In past games, running out of the shotgun was out of the question. In this year's edition, the zone read can be very effective, and all that separates you from a potential big play is correctly reading the defensive end. The "gotcha!" feeling when you correctly keep as the DE crashes down the line will have you strongly considering a move to RichRod's playbook (okay, maybe not).
Then there's the lynchpin of the series, dynasty mode, where you take the reigns of any NCAA team as the head coach or either coordinator and grind your way to the top (or at least a new contract). This year, it's deeper than ever, which should greatly appeal to those who take a more strategic approach to playing the game.
Recruiting is much-improved thanks to the new scouting feature, which gives you three hours a week (plus an extra 20 when setting up your recruiting board before the season) to unlock player ratings before divvying up your available phone call time. This adds to the realism—coaches have much more information in real life than star ratings and an approximate 40 time—and also makes it much easier to choose between multiple recruits at the same position.
ESPN is more integrated into the game than in previous years, with in-game score updates from Rece Davis and a bottom line with scores from all over the country. The updates do get repetitive after a while—Rece only has so many pre-programmed statements—but they're easy to skip if you find them a bother. I appreciate the efforts to make dynasty mode more of a story; they capture the scoreboard-gazing dramatics of college football quite well.
The big gameplay mode addition this year is the Heisman Challenge, and if you've seen the commercials you know you can take players like Desmond Howard, Eddie George, and Barry Sanders and put them on any team you'd like. The presentation here is also solid, as frequent videos featuring the Heisman winners discussing their careers are interspersed into the gameplay. You'll have to decide for yourself if you prefer playing as a receiver, running back, or quarterback; all have their merits and demerits, but it's possible to enjoy yourself at any of the positions.
Issues with computer AI abound and threatened to ruin what should be a great game of virtual football. While the passing game is much-improved, two issues need to be addressed. The first is the rampant prevalence of sacks; if you don't tweak the sliders, expect the DTs to have an absolute field day for both teams. All too often a DT is able to blow right by the interior line and destroy a play before the receiver icons even appear, and it's not unusual to see both teams approach double-digit sacks in a game with five-minute quarters.
Those sacks, however, are rather necessary considering the passing game's other issue: safety play that makes 2010 Cam Gordon look like Ed Reed by comparison. Streaks and posts from the slot are nearly unstoppable as safeties routinely stand still while the receiver gallops past, regardless of the defensive playcall. If you want to win just about every game, all you need is a cannon-armed QB and one tall, fast receiver; the rest is just exploiting the glaring holes in the defense.
It's asking too much of EA to expect them to overhaul the running game and defense in a year where they did so much with passing, but I still have to stick those two categories here. It's difficult to run in the game, though not because the defense is remarkably stout; instead, the running back regularly gets stuck behind the offensive line, helplessly churning his legs while his torso remains unmoved. There are very few unique interactions between the offensive and defensive line, as well, and none of them are particularly authentic.
As for playing defense, it's the same as it was for the last several years of this franchise: completely, utterly meh. I've toyed around with playing every position, but 95% of playing effective defense is still in calling the right plays and not totally screwing up your assignment. When the best you can hope for is often not being the primary culprit on a long touchdown, change is needed. Since so many players default to controlling one of the defensive linemen, I'd love to see EA turn their focus to making that part of the game more realistic and nuanced.
Yes, there are glitches, and they are annoying. These mostly involve defenders simply standing still as the play goes by. Here's a few screenshots of me playing as Michigan against Ohio State as the Buckeyes decide to call an option on 3rd-and-24. Keep your eye on the playside cornerback:
So far, so good; the CB is maintaining the edge.
Sweet, I forced the pitch! That CB should be right there to...
As you can see in that last screenshot, virtual J.T. Floyd—sorry, CB #8—stayed rooted to his spot at the 13-yard line, though he at least turned to watch the play go by.
That's not the only glitch, of course. Defenders often take pursuit angles that will trigger your GERG-related PTSD, even running right next to the ballcarrier for upwards of ten yards before finally taking one step sideways to lay a hit. The play above represents the only time I've seen the computer successfully run the option; most of the time the running back ends up running a good 5-10 yards directly behind the quarterback, making for both a very awkward pitch and a big tackle-for-loss. On occasion, a play will be blown dead as soon as a receiver or returner catches the ball, despite the fact that they're still standing (this one has only occurred a couple of times, but you can imagine the frustration when it does).
Computer playcalling is also an issue. For one, they're far too reliant on screens, calling them seemingly every third play; this does not go well in conjunction with the unstoppable pass rush. Clock management was apparently programmed by Les Miles. In one game, the CPU was driving, down seven in the waning moments of the game but with all three of their timeouts; after a first down stopped the clock with one second remaining, the CPU... tried to hurry up and ran out of time.
Seven Ways To Enjoy The Game Anyway
So, yeah, this is a very flawed game; I have another page of notes detailing various annoyances. But again, I've still spent hours playing and will play far more before summer ends and actual football fills the gaping void in my life. To salvage my gaming experience, and hopefully yours, here are seven ways to either improve the gameplay or enjoy yourself in spite of its myriad issues:
- TWEAK THE SLIDERS: While you'd like the game to get it right the first time, the gameplay sliders are there for a reason, and they can go a long way towards fixing issues like the pass rush and brutally efficient quarterbacks. I started playing with these sliders a couple of days ago and they make for a much better, more realistic game. Keep making little tweaks with those until you've found the sweet spot for your game.
- THE RECLAMATION PROJECT: We've all fired up the game and launched into a Michigan dynasty; it's only natural. Unfortunately (for gaming purposes only), Michigan is a freakin' juggernaut, and recruiting is cake at a school like that. Instead, go for the reclamation project; right now I'm trying to resurrect Ole Miss, no easy feat in a stacked SEC. Or you could go for, as my buddy Noah coined last night, the "Exclamation Project"—take a Texas State, Louisiana-Monroe, or Eastern Michigan and turn them into a national power. This is a great way to keep dynasty mode interesting after a few years, especially with the coaching carousel feature that lets you have a very realistic coaching career path; start at Eastern with the hopes of catching Michigan's eye, for example.
- CREATE A PLAYBOOK: Part of the great fun of college football is the wildly variant styles of play. The create-a-playbook feature is woefully underutilized, in my opinion, as it's great fun to devise an offense all your own and unleash it upon the world. Want seven different Wildcat formations? They're in there. Want to create a hybrid between the spread and the flexbone? As you wish. Want to feature your remarkable depth at tight end and fullback? The wishbone and Maryland I call to you.
- START YOUR DYNASTY AS AN OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR: I won't argue with you that defense can be a bit of a drag, and if you agree, why not eliminate it? Head coaches may get all the glory, but you can start a dynasty as the offensive coordinator, as well; while you'll still recruit for your team, when you play the games you'll only control the offense. This is a great way to not only makes the games go by faster, but eliminate the part of the game you enjoy the least.
- TRY A NEW DEFENSIVE POSITION: If you don't like the idea of avoiding defense entirely, try to spice things up a bit by playing a new, more difficult defensive position. If you're usually running as a DE, try middle linebacker, where you can make more plays but also have greater responsibility. If you mostly play linebacker, take a stab at safety. And if you want to get hardcore, man, try your luck at corner; trust me, it's possible to not only survive, but excel there. The game is only as stale as you allow it to be.
- CUSTOM CONFERENCES: Last year, with conference realignment madness in full swing, EA introduced the option of customizing conferences and their BCS bowl tie-ins. That feature appears once again this year, and it's still great; you can recreate the old Southwest Conference, take the Big Ten back to the days of ten teams, or stick all the national powers in a superconference and see who's left standing when the dust settles.
- PUT BARRY SANDERS ON MICHIGAN: Self-explanatory, I hope.
NCAA Football 13 may have its fair share of AI issues, glitches, and shoddy gameplay, but it's still college football, fergodsakes. If you're looking to have have fun while passing the time until September 1st, there are far worse ways to accomplish that end.
So fix them yourself, it's not hard at all. Also, there's no such thing as WDE to EA, only RDE or LDE.
OS constantlys updates rosters for ALL the teams. I want more than just Michigan to be correct... and obviously I'm well aware that EA doesn't use our terminology but they do have a 4-3 under playbook. To correctly utilize Michigan's personnel, it's important that Roh end up in the spot the EA treats as SDE in their 4-3 under, the LE position.
Gamertag MJAttles for "authentic" Michigan rosters/ratings. Has the names for all players and coaches at all schools. Also, had realistic ratings tweaks at each position (top 15-25).
The Michigan depth chart is pretty accurate as well (for what we know today).
Did he base his roster off the OS Community roster?
Who's Ohio State?
Thank you for this insight. I intend to break my NCAA lockout and buy the game for the first time since 05. I've been very keen on getting the game, but I'm reading about the freezing issues on the 360. I hope patches come out that resolve the freezing issues, I just want to run a smooth dynasty with minimal issues.
And I've found that messing around with other stuff before jumping into the game has helped. I started a road to glory, which kickstarted a gaming update. I downloaded the game to the HD. Also I'll usually do recruiting before starting the game and I've put helmet numbers on under the "uniforms" option before loading the game. Hasn't frozen since.
The replays and especially the "Game Tracker" are still glitchy, take forever to load.
Can someone please direct me to a good place to downoad the NCAA 2013? It's been a little over a week and I'm tired of playing with no names. I'd rather download a fairly accurate roster so I won't have to tweak it myself.
Also if you want to have some fun put Barry Sanders in the Oregon spread offense..simply amazing to play!
EDIT: I''m playing on PS3
Take your pick on which ones to use(whether you're a PS3 or 360 user)
But you will have to tweak it yourself. They're crowd-sourcing the corrections to their roster and people are submitting incorrect information.
Kw1kc.. Operations first crack at it and they look good to me. They bumped the freshman ratings and brink isn't starting.. Win win
I guess I'm just a sucker because while I can't disagree with any of the points you've said, I still view the game as a fairly enjoyable one. The one "glitch" I guess I've run into that's annoying is that occasionally the playcalling screen will freeze and not let me scroll down or choose a play. I usually can fix this by pausing the game and then starting it again, but it's obnoxious.
I always use the DL. In the past it was often the only way to sack the QB without blitzing.
100 or so words and had to stop. You're a freak Ace (although I suspect I may be in a minority of non-gamers around here).
And if you want to get hardcore, man, try your luck at corner; trust me, it's possible to not only survive, but excel there
Lies lies lies. Playing corner in an NCAA video game is without a doubt the hardest thing ever invented
Two words: inside leverage.
I haven't had a challenge in a while.
I found this game to be a large improvement over last year's. Last year's game became unplayable as OLBs would have more INTs than CBs as any pass over the middle was within the SuperLB's jumping range. The safeties' ability to cover a post, turn on the release of the ball and spring 30 yards to arrive in time to intercept a sideline fly route was pretty absurd as well. The dynasty mode became painfully redundant.
I chalk up some of the defensive AI issues to the new vision cone reading system, and I actually don't mind it. It's actually somewhat realistic, in that running a four vert will cause safeties to make a decision on coverage. In the past, it didn't matter, because the safety would cover one, let the other go free, then turn and book over to defend the guy who was uncovered. Now there are consequences. The key, at least for defending the four vert, is either having enough deep coverage or getting to the QB.
I think you're dwelling on the negatives a bit too much. Not to say that this game is perfect, by any means, but it's a much improved game than it has been for many years.
I'd also like to add to your adjustment suggestions:
Game Speed: Madden usually plays a little better because it's default speed is much slower. You can go to the settings and turn down the game speed (I use "very slow") which makes the game more realistic. It's not slow motion, by any means, but no one's running 2.7 second FAKE 40s.
There's another setting for speed differential (don't remember what it's called) that allows you to make the difference between faster players and slower players greater. So you don't see Denard getting beat to the sidelines or caught from behind at full spring by a DT.
I've got my standard Michigan dynasty on Varsity (or whatever Normal difficulty is) and I just beat MSU 87-0. The hilarious part was the 14 (!!) interceptions my defense had. I ran out of the 3-2-6 Dime in the 2 Man Under. Playing as Roh I got regular pressure and the man coverage just ate everything up. I had to check the stats to see that I got 14 INTs, at least 4 were pick-6s.
That's some good AI there.
You can raise the difficulty level, you know.
Has anyone tried RTG mode? It's MUCH better than year's past. For one, you can play and get recruited at two positions. You set the schools you're interested in and you change your top 10 like a recruit as you get recruited. You also make your high school and it's schedule. You can edit the names of all of your opponents as well as their colors so that you're playing "real" high schools.
I've hated RTG mode in the past, but for whatever reason, I can't get into the dynasty mode yet and RTG has been awesome.
Part of the reason I can't get into the dynasty mode (with Michigan) is that I haven't figured out the proper AI sliders just yet. The default isn't bad (I play on Heisman), but the gameplay is so...off. It's like the guys are playing on ice sometimes. On defense, it's hard to similar stay under control and make a tackle. Offense is pretty much the same, which is good.
Also, the instant replay glitches are TERRIBLE. Where they show the QB's arm not move forward but the ball flies off his hand like a rocket. Or guys "running" only their legs aren't moving...they're just sliding down the field like that old magnet football game.
I'd like to at least get through one dynasty season with Michigan before I create myself as an offensive coordinator at EMU and try to work my way up.
Yeah I agree. I don't see Penn State being #2 for a long while. Oh wait, that's not what you're talking about...
Rosters. Keep checking this link for updates but as of now the best name to download rosters from is from Raven 304. Pretty accurate across the board.
This game is like a new edition of an algebra textbook. Fancy new visual displays but the math never changes.
over the age of 25 actually have enough time to play a game to this detail ?
Yes, ones that aren't married or do not have children. With a baby coming in late October, I know my spare time for games will dwindle quite a bit.
Baby gets here on or around the beginning of October. NCAA 13 will be a distant memory after that. In a good way, of course.
A lot of people over the age of 25 have enough time to check this blog religiously, so why not?
Yes. I have 5 hours after work. I can play 1 NCAA dynasty game every day.
Not a fan of 2 or 3 games in one day, I play one game, and then move on to doing something else.
Hey, OP, can we throw an "OT" in the subject line? It's a damn video game.
No, I'm kidding, but if this keeps up, we might need to follow the lead of the Penn State posters with one thread per day with all of this NCAA '13 stuff.
For the tip about extra 20 hrs of scouting before the season...missed that
Do they actually have the players' names on the jerseys? They've given up the whole "QB 16" charade?
I'm surprised they'll allow that given that they're being sued as it is over this.
It's not EA Sports though that makes these downloadable rosters. But it is EA that allows custom rosters to be downloaded from other Xbox 360 / PS3 users.
Are there rosters that have dreads on Denard, Gallon, etc? GamingTailgate doesn't and the edit player options won't allow it.
But last year I found that changing the players complexion to dark and the face to face 1, they would have dreads. worked every time in NCAA12
Awesome review, btw Ace.
Hey, so I do not own a gaming system (and don't have the money to purchase one). Are there any good football games for PC? I've never really considered one and my guess is it would be completely weird without a handheld controller. Any suggestions?
I'll focus on EAs much better FIFA and NHL franchises yet again, I suppose. I've been dying to get back into football for years, but EA continues to shit out absolute dogshit with their NCAA and Madden lineups.
Reclamation project is the way to go. Try one of the academy schools, that can be very challenging.
Apparently EA is aware of many of these issues and they should be fixed shortly.
I always start as a Defensive Coordinator... mainly because I'm great at defense and generally terrible at offense, haha. Does anyone else have this problem?
As a coach I always go with a straight pound the ball between the tackles plan on offense bcause my passing is so dreadful. I actually pity imaginary people watching my game, but since I'm actually good at defense, I don't have to score a lot of points.
But... yeah... terrible throwing the ball. Like 2:1 INT to TD ratio.
In my opinion, this year's version is much better than the '12 version. I like the new "touch" passing, even though it probably contributed to a couple extra INT's during the first few games as I was adjusting.
To be realistic, however, it's a video game. It is not real football. There are always going to glitches or improvements that need to be made. As long as they don't make the game unplayable, I wouldn't really worry about them. Just enjoy the game.
That they actually gave Denard dreadlocks, as I recall he was maybe the ONLY player in NCAA '12 without dreadlocks, and you couldn't add them yourself. Needless to say it was highly disappointing
pre-play, and after the snap for that matter is it still set up where you can't see the cb/receiver because they're out wide and the screen doesn't pan out that far? That's all that made it difficult. I love running as a safety.
Thanks for this, Ace. I wasn't planning on buying it this year, and this helped reinforce my stance on that. The laziness the developers of this game continue to show is so blatantly obvious. One of their advertised new additions last year was adding dreads into the game, yet they couldn't find the time to give Denard them? Really EA? Quit worrying about the damn grass and Heisman Mode and finally fix the gameplay. I've enjoyed the game less and less every year and can't justify paying full price for it anymore, especially since I have the '13 rosters on '12 now.
Does the clock randomly still start running when you clearly run out of bounds? Biggest pet peeve with NCAA 12 running at end of half/game. Got out of bounds....shit the clock is running wtf.