Michigan State has scheduled West Virginia and Alabama for upcoming home and homes, in addition to extending their series with Notre Dame. It's on ESPN. When we're getting "outscheduled" by Sparty, there's a problem. If they can do it, we can do it. Time to step up, Mr. Martin. You can't use the Notre Dame series as an excuse. At least one other legitimate nonconference game every year.
MSU Schedules West Virginia and Alabama
Q: Pete and Repeat are in a boat. Pete falls off. Who's left?
New to this. I think the point for discussion still stands though. If they're doing it, why aren't we? Not only are they scheduling legit teams, they also re-upped with ND, which, to my knowledge, is the excuse Martin is using to NOT schedule an additional nonconference team from a power conference.
If you want serious responses, you should probably post the same thing in the other thread.
for the suggestion, but it's not worth it. Unfortunately, the smart ass comments directed at newcomers seems to be par for the course on message boards.
If the newcomers took the time to learn the usual tone of the board and bothered to see if a thread was already started instead of making the board their own personal playground to do whatever they want, they wouldn't get so many smart ass comments.
Thanks for the tip. Please accept my apologies.
Can we get back to substantive discussion or is this procedural tutorial going to continue?
MSU is not playing any of those teams in the same season until 2016-2017. They don't play Notre Dame in 2014-15, just West Virginia. Whether West Virginia is still a good team after 5 years of bad coaching and no in-state talent remains to be seen. I agree that Notre Dame plus Alabama in 2016-17 is impressive, assuming Notre Dame improves and Alabama remains a good team.
The economics make it hard for any school to pass up millions of dollars by scheduling a road game when they could schedule a home. So top teams play about one road game a year. We're locked into Notre Dame. That game has a lot of history, and I would be disappointed if we took a break from that series.
I would like to see some tougher non-conference games. Unfortunately I think our extended experiment with early season Pac-10 games was officially declared a complete failure, and we are now following Notre Dame's lead and "Charlie-proofing" the schedule a bit, as a result of recent hard times.
Finally, I will note that we played Utah last year. Only in retrospect can we realize we played a top #3 team in our non-conference. No one was impressed when we put that one on the schedule. Everyone today is impressed that MSU put the 2015 version of West Virginia on their schedule. We'll see how brave that proves to be...
It does lead to an interesting dilemma trying to schedule non conference teams that may, or may not be good by the time the season rolls around. As was discussed with the scheduling of the U of M opener for the 2010 season that is aligning with the unveiling of the stadium renovations, you want to schedule a win, but not a cupcake, but not a loss, but not a disaster upset. The other issue is the logistics of scheduling. MSU is scheduling 7 years out. Imagine if you scheduled Missouri 7 years ago nobody would think that was a great game in the making, but if 7 years ago was 2000 or 2001 and you played the Mizzou team of the last two years it would have totally impacted your strength of schedule and possibly your record. It is a coin toss when you schedule a team that generally lands in the middle of the conference standings, and the Buckeyes were definitely fueled with arrogance when the scheduled a USC home and home. Though I have to give them credit for committing to that match up.
...is being discussed in the other thread.
I think if we could get dates posted next to MGoBoard links it would help a lot. I mean, if I saw a news article posted last night I might actually look to see if anyone posted on it last night but as it is there's really no easy way to know that "Torrent Request..." isn't 2 or 3 days old at this point...
"threads with the most recent responses are listed on page 1 of the board with the number of hours and seconds since the last response" is confusing?
Did you know that if you click MGoBoard at the top you get a big page of topics with the time elapsed since the last posting?
watch out um indy, they cut your head off around here for re-posting threads.
No offense to UM Indy or anyone else, but that's what makes the mgoblog boards so great is that it is well policed. Reposting old news, posting unintelligent info, trolling, etc are all policed well around here, making the board much easier and more enjoyable to read. If you don't like rules, go to mlive where there are none.
...at the grammar and spelling police due to their own, uh, inability to spell or grammaticize is also pretty funny. It usually only takes one comment to start a run on hilarious attacks, which in turn leads to more spelling and grammar errors, and eventual attacks on girlfriends / boyfriends / moms.
you're not referring to me. I may not be capable of checking to see if a topic has already been posted, but my grammar and spelling are impeccable. :)
I don't think he was referring to you, and don't call him Shirley.
"....what makes the mgoblog boards so great is that it is well policed. Reposting old news, posting unintelligent info, trolling, etc are all policed well around here..."
So, are you equating talking about the same subject in two different threads or posting something you don't deign "intelligent" with trolling? That certainly isn't very logical, nor is it very friendly. Sounds like the "police" need some coffee and donuts.
"If you don't like rules, go to mlive where there are none."
There really isn't a rule against bad spelling, lack of what you deign to be "intelligent info," or talking about a "hot button" topic in (GASP!) TWO DIFFERENT THREADS!!!!! In fact, the ethics and FAQ section don't really set out many hard and fast rules for posters.
All I have really seen is a collection of about ten people who have apparently decided that the other 35,000 people who "hit" the website at whatever interval the quote on WTKA cited should follow their "rules." I guess that means ten people are more important than 35,000. And, even accounting for many multiple hits per person, the ratio of ten to, let's say, 5,000 is still inappropriate, especially since those ten seem to have "elected" themselves to their "position."
My belief, of course, is that people who are actually UM fans should post what they want without being flamed for it, but trolls deserve whatever they get. When there are more posts ragging someone for reposting than there are reposts or discussions on the subject, I do wonder if people could find something better to do with their time.
Your mileage may vary.
It isn't really ten people enforcing their rules, it's ten people enforcing the wishes of one person: Brian. If you listened to the whole WTKA interview, you heard that he thinks the sometimes-too-harsh enforcement keep the comments here from turning in to the giant flaming trolling mess that is MLive. And Brian has written multiple posts on what he feels are annoying message board posts, I've linked to them before. While Brian never specifically listed duplicate posts among those things, limiting them would still be a good thing. If posters think the topic is important enough to start a thread, it's worth checking to see if one has been started already as well.
FWIW UM fans should post what they want if the can do it without making UM fans look like idiots. Because if they make UM fans look like idiots, that means I look like an idiot by association, and I don't like that.
There are a few reasons people come to MGoBlog over other sites for the M info. One is Brian's outstanding content. Nothing that goes on in the forums will effect that.
Another reason is the relative civility and organization of the message boards. I, like many others, can't stand the mlive and freep comment sections, and because of that those sites miss out on my, and many other's, "hits." What I fear, is that with the growing popularity of this site (which is a great thing) that it will turn into those other boards, if not for some policing.
I didn't elect myself, but I've been here longer than most and spend more time on here than most, and it seems that a lot of my views on this stuff tend to agree with the people who generate the most hits. Rarely is the "policing" done is an insulting manner, but rather a friendly reminder to keep the boards functioning the way they were intended. We're like the neighborhood watch.
It's not difficult. If you want to post something, take 2 minutes to see if it's been posted. See if Brian wrote a front page article about it. He gave us a search function for a reason. Also, don't be an idiot and say "LOL RR suxor we only recruit 5'5" floridians WTF." This part, I suppose, is more difficult for some, but a little restraint goes a long way.
That said, I love it here. I don't want that to change.
WolvinLA did not equate duplicate posts, or unintelligent posts with trolling. He put them into the same annoying category, that's all. And his reply to you was spot-on. Perhaps you wouldn't mind this board morphing into a freep clone, but the vast majority here would. My Epinion, Tater.
I, for one, like the policing on the site. It definitely makes me think twice before posting. It keeps balance and weeds out the riff-raff out once in a while.
The thought of MLive and Freep posters migrating here gives me chills. I've already recognized some duplicate names...