Why do most of the D-1 prospects come out of the east side of the state, particularly Detroit, while only one or two come out of the west side yearly? The west won ALL 8 state championships, yet the only big name recruits from there were Kevin Grady (...) and Ronald Johnson. (Note: Terrence Taylor also came from Muskegon.) The best teams and the best conference, the OK-Red (which has two state champs D-1 and 2 as well as excellent programs all throughout the conference, except Jenison), come from the west side but great players are from the east. Explain, please?
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east michigan make GOOD PLAYERS but not GOOD PROGRAMS
no sugarcoating, the only player to come out of West Ottawa was Ryan McDonald, and he split to Illinois. He wasn't a Michigan Man anyway! Just my epinion.
appreciate no sugarcoat 70% fluff on e-blog. support west michigan football TEAMS but think need more ATHLETES and then produce more PROSPECTS. coach rod need ties to west not miss on WESTENDORP other WHITE athletes.
McDonald's father played at Illinois.
think FATHER playing at illinois indicate NO MICHIGAN MAN. coach rod need player to showcase that BUY IN to SYSTEM not want SYSTEM to BUY THEM. just epinion
McDonald's not just not Michigan MAN, not Michigan FAMILY
coachBT say west of state MOSTLY WHITE FOLK, just epinion.
coachBT notice your name be WHITE TIGER, you must be WEST SIDER, just epinion.
kids on east side ATHLETE kids on west side ECKSTEIN. just epinion.
HAHAHA this thread is hilarious. This is a good one Musket.
East sides of STATES are always GOOD and NEVER bad.
Except when GOOD. THEN good. I like east side, WANT see SUCCEED. just don't KNOW. don't want SUGARCOAT.
East only GOOD when WHOLE program commit, not just ME-FIRST players. Sources say east have SKILLS, but not HEART.
unless have heart? i LIKE heart. and DINNER theater.
Do you have an inside source for that?
at this GBMW game.
Seriously, +1 it is uncanny.
After seeing both side of the state, it's clear to me that the West side of the state are well coached where as the East side does not have the resources like the West side have. East side generally have more athletes and athletic players generally translate to D1 sports better. Of course, there are exceptions.
See Cass Tech, they have a lot of D1 prospects on the team like Teric Jones, Big Will, Dior Mathis, Tom Gordon, etc. but they haven't done much in the playoffs.
this BEST GBMW imitation YET.
That's exactly it. Look at a team like Rockford - they make it deep in the playoffs every year, and often win it, but haven't produced a D1 player since Joe Staley went to CMU in 2003. They are a true team. A couple years ago they won the state title without even having a single all-state player on the team.
kudos to you sir. that was TREMENDOUS
The talented ballers have alway came from the east. Just the way it is...
The 2008 MHSAA Division 1 playoffs:
28 schools from the east side of the state
3 from the west side
1 from up north (Traverse City)
In Division 2 it breaks down 23-8-1.
I'm not going to bother with the rest of the divisions - you can expect the breakdown to shift west and north, but likewise you can expect the lower divisions to be pretty irrelevant when it comes to I-A football talent. Below Division 3 is really when it stops mattering.
This is a fancy way of saying most of the state's population, and therefore bigger high schools and talent concentration, are on the east side of the state. But taking into account only the state champions is silly, as is looking at only this year's champions - if you'd tried this last year, only two schools from the west side won.
seem to be more likely to be into hunting and fishing for their sports/competitive outlets. Sadly, there aren't many great "fishin holes" in Detroit, and the police frown upon shooting small animals within the city limits. If, of course, you can find any small animals to shoot who don't have endearment names from their owners.
Also, there is the "football as a ticket out of town" factor. For example, in Florida; Belle Glade and Pahokee, where athletics is seen as a ticket out of the sugar fields for both athletes and their parents, produces a disproportionate amount of athletes per capita.
Ticket out of Detroit, Flint, or Saginaw, anyone?
Whatever the case, the larger cities/metro areas seem to produce better athletes in Michigan. Chalk this up to better organization producing better competition from junior football on up, chalk it up to poverty-stricken kids using athletics as an outlet instead of sitting on their asses in front of a computer all day, or chalk it up to something in the city water.
Or, you could just chalk it up to sheer population numbers. A kid who makes a football team in a 2,000 kid school has to be a bit better than one who makes it in a 200 kid school.
I guess we'll never really know.
think vaguely RACIST and STEREOTYPICAL factors like TICKETS OUT OF TOWN not as relevant to discussion as FAR MORE PEOPLE mean FAR MORE ATHLETES not all football players ARE POOR many are MIDDLE CLASS just epinion no sugarcoat
I grew up in Grand Rapids. Thus, I had little time to practice football since I was always hunting and fishing. Thanks man, now I know why I didn't go D1. Oh, also because my town wasn't poor enough.
"Or, you could just chalk it up to sheer population numbers."
Chalk it up? Yeah, we can't find any other reasons so lets go with the one that is correct. Wow.
And there are quite a few large high schools as well...my graduating class was 500