This one's easy.
Published reaction to the Day of Slight Reckoning has mostly fallen into two camps. One focuses on how the prideful block M has been brought low; addressing that is left for another post. The second shrugs at the end result, adds it to the ever-growing pile to strikes against Rodriguez, and quickly segues into a discussion of Rodriguez's presence on the proverbial hot seat, which is deemed hot indeed. Unlike last year, when a smattering of dips said Rodriguez was in danger of losing his job, there's no denying the reality of it: there are 2010 football seasons that end with Rodriguez getting run out of town on a rail.
How many are there? It will come as no surprise to anyone who's read this blog for a long time that I believe there are (and should be) considerably fewer than the popular conception does. Heck, I (and Dave from Maize 'n' Brew) just managed to convince Doug Gillett of this. For the last year and a half this space has been advocating radical patience.
For an example what seems to be the conventional wisdom, Bruce Feldman has a piece($) in which he repeatedly asks for much more than I think is reasonable for RR to deliver next year:
This is still Michigan, growing pains or not. This isn't a normal rebuilding job. Going 8-4 may not even be a strong enough sign that Michigan is rocketing back to the top and all of this tumult in the previous two years were worth it. …
Again, 8-4 might not be enough. Michigan needs to go back to winning like Michigan used to. Now.
Similarly, Dan Wetzel declares that setting the bar at a return to a bowl game is "incredibly low."
I had a twitter conversation with Feldman about this assertion a couple days ago. During that one of the tweets hit my main account—forgot the "d"—and thus the Facebooks, where it drew a chorus of raspberries because I asserted that going from 5-7 to 7-5 whilst replacing Baby Seal U with UConn would be "significant" progress. (It's since been pointed out that Michigan is playing a I-AA team next year so they're replacing with Eastern Michigan with UConn, but it's not like there's much difference between EMU and a horrible HBCU except when it comes to the entertainment provided by the marching band.) Patience is running low.
I know it's my role as the crazy fan blogger to demand the head of the coach when he fails to live up to my crazy expectations, but if we're seriously talking about an 8-4 regular season "not being enough" for Rodriguez to get a year four Michigan should have just fired him already. If this ends up being an 8-4 team the Mathlete's luck chart will have Michigan considerably on the happy side of the ledger.
The 2009 and 2010 classes make up about half of each unit for our rivals; for us it's about 75 percent..
"This is still Michigan" is demonstrably false. Even in year three this remains a desperately young team with major holes in the secondary and no upperclass quarterbacks. Rodriguez's responsibility for the state of the state of the roster is limited to the absence of Terrelle Pryor, or any marginally acceptable option at quarterback from his first two months on the job, and a couple of would-be-sophomores Rodriguez did not add to the end of his first full recruiting class. You can wave your hands and say "Michigan! Rabble rabble rabble!" all you want but if you dressed these guys up like Generic State University people would expect them to go .500.
Progress is mandatory, but firing a guy because he's not healing lepers is unwise. This is a team that deserved to go 3-9 in 2008 and had four non-freshman defensive backs on the roster last year. Rebuilding from that is not a short-term operation. We've been through why this happened many times before; suffice it to say Rodriguez's margin of error to prevent a wholesale cratering was infinitesimal.
Later in Feldman's piece he says Rodriguez is an "excellent coach" and "proven winner" who "knows how to develop talent and motivate players." If this is the case—and everything in his coaching tenure before Michigan suggests so—why shouldn't Michigan give him the benefit of the doubt? They are not going to hire a coach with two BCS wins to his name next offseason. Patience is warranted. One year now (to be clear: 2011) has the potential to pay off with a 20-year stretch of success. While recruiting has suffered Michigan's classes are well within the range where Michigan can expect to compete for Big Ten championships when it is not operating with literally half the upperclassmen of its primary rivals.
My personal measuring stick for Rodriguez: yardage parity and a winning record. I would be displeased with 7-6 but willing to grit my teeth and give Rodriguez a shot in 2011, when he will return both specialists, every starter on offense save Steve Schilling and all but three starters on defense. That will seem exceptionally kind to many, I know, but literally no coach in the country could take the leftovers after Mallett's transfer and do anything other than flail as Rodriguez has.
2008 was a complete waste. To me, this is year two for Rodriguez, and 2011 is when I expect rubber to meet road.
This one's easy.
I think RR has to PROVE that he is a bad coach before he should be let go. Teams can have good or bad records independent of the coach. Look at Bill Belichick, he was pretty bad with the Cleveland Browns.
Getting rid of RR after this year is crazy. I have said it before, I will say it again: If we get rid of RR now we will Notre Dame ourselves. And I think that is amazingly stupid.
I can't help but think back to how many people were calling for Carr's head after the 1997 Outback Bowl loss to Alabama. I'm not about to go reseraching all the newspapers of the day, but I had many friends who said, "We should get a big-time coach. We should get Steve Spurrier." Michigan stuck by Carr. How'd that turn out?
Brian's post can be summed up in one word.
Honestly, I have had enough of the THIS IS MICHIGAN crowd. I think I made my thoughts on them and that meme in my diary that day after the Illinois game: Go find somebody else to cheer for and something else to do in the fall. When the ship is turned around, we'll let you know and you can come back.
Getting to the point at hand, I cant see any situation that doesnt involve outlandish outside factors where Rich gets canned with an 8-4 record. Frankly, I think any bowl appearance keeps his job, unless its a 6-6,7-5 final record that comes after an ugly losing streak that looks similar to last year.
He is stocking the program back up. He didnt forget how to coach. I'd like to see him play with an experience QB before even begin thinking about getting rid of him.
I know that reporters have a job to do and that leads to the media overblowing every single story written. i.e. RR Future
If we could duplicate 100's of Brian's and put them in the main stream media, we might have respectable sports journalism again.
Once again Brian thank you for being the voice of reason and the voice of the official "Michigan Nation."
Keep up the great work as always.
While I think Harbaugh is a jerk, there's no denying he's a good coach. He's deserved all the credits he's gotten for Stanford's upset victories, especially the epic 2007 victory over USC. It should be noted though, that if you're comparing Harbaugh's first season with RR's, Harbaugh had redshirt junior Tavita Pritchard as his QB, who already had two+ years on the team and several starts under his belt before the USC game. Contrast that with walk-on Sheridan with no game experience and pure freshman Threet with no game experience. Harbaugh also did not implement the radical change in offense that RR did, meaning that Pritchard did not have to play in an offense that was totally unsuited to his abilities.
Another thing to remember is that while Stanford beat SC in '07, they also lost to ND. It took a really, really special team to lose to ND in '07. They were improved from 1-11 the previous year, but they were far from a good team in spite of the win against SC. Probably better than '08 Michigan, but not by a lot.
Also, besides Pritchard they had a redshirt senior QB in Ostrander who was a returning starter and had been a four star to rivals (he didn't play in the USC game only because of illness). Not sure what their situation at other positions was.
Stanford didn't beat SC because of Harbaugh either. Carroll lost that game by playing Booty with a broken finger (he would miss the next 3 weeks) and refusing to run out the clock. Booty threw 4 second half picks (one returned for a score and one that gave Stanford the ball with 3 minutes left in SC territory to set up the winning score).
I think Harbaugh is a good coach and his team hung tough against a superior opponent, but they won that game because Carroll/SC crapped the bed.
with 1 of those coming against MSU. Anything less to me would be disappointing even though I understand all the reasons why that might not be realistic.
I cannot fathom how 8-4 does not get RR back for 2011. That would be an improvement of 3 wins from last year, as well as a spot in a decent (and, depending on how many of those wins are in conference) bowl. After the past two years, 8-4 would be a huge success.
Would that win over the fanbase? I think that there is a faction of the fanbase that would not be won over even if RR went 11-1 and took us to a Rose Bowl. There is also a faction that, if RR went 1-11, would still want him back (although that faction has probably diminished). For the majority of fans that fall somewhere in the middle, I think that 8-4 with our somewhat difficult schedule would be more than enough to prevent any calls for RR's head.
I also think that while the record is the most important factor, how we get to that record will be important. If we lose games down the stretch, do not look competitive or start out hot and then fall apart against B10 competition, this will influence how our record is perceived. Also, even if his record is 7-5, if one of those 7 is a win against OSU, then that would go a long way with the fans . . .
Just how close we were in the MSU, Iowa, and Purdue games. Flip those scores around and RRod has an 8-4 team and is the toast of the town. Since we return nearly everybody, we should be able to go 7-5
The way the Notre Dame and Indiana games went, we could also have gone 3-9 without too much trouble.
exactly. But all in all, a couple close wins and three close losses puts us right about where we should have been.
While seven wins next year wouldn't exactly make me ecstatic, I think it would be sufficient to set the table for a very successful 2011 aka one where we have more than 4 senior starters.
Without a massive Tate breakdown in the fourth, you sir are forgetting how close that OSU game was.
"...2011, when he will return both specialists, every starter on offense save Steve Schilling and all but three starters on defense."
Also: Actual experience and depth at the QB position including a JR starter (no matter whether it's Tate or Denard), a real, viable amount of upperclassmen, and an incredibly favorable (at least looking at it on 5-27-10) schedule - ND and OSU at home, PSU off the schedule, and WMU, EMU, and SDSU as the 3 other non-con games.
2011 is an indicator. 2012 is the true test. and if people don't stop stabbing the poor man in the ass all the time he might just bail on his own--and then where would we be? do you really think harballs is going to come in and saban the joint?
take a pill everybody. i agree with the brain cook.
That's funny right there. I don't care who you are.
Where you get that caricature of Pitt's S&C Coach?
Particularly around 7-5. Because any of us can find situations where 7-5 looks good (2 of the 7 MSU, OSU?), or not so good (don't beat anyone of matter, lose all the big games by 40 points uncompetitively). It differs slightly at 8-4, because it almost assures you had to beat SOMEBODY. So the whole notion that 8-4 isn't enough, and we should be winning 10 games this year is ridiculous. But likewise, I find the notion that we have a great coach (which I believe his track record has shown, and the majority around here believe) can't, you know, overachieve once in 3 years...well, if you believe that, I question your belief in him as a great coach. Because while all the charts and data shown give credence to the fact that we're not at OSU, PSU level, it never said we're not at least at (or above) Illinois or Purdue level. It's losing to THOSE teams (and 1-7 Big Ten records) that's making us look bad.
As has been said, many times, flip those two around, we're a 7 win team. Add in a victory vs. MSU this year, it's not that hard to get to 8. Does a loss come out of the U-Conn/ND section where it wasn't expected before? I hope not in that it's U-Conn at home, and ND in the first year under a new coach (it'd be kinda cool NOT to legitimize their new coach for a change), but if it were to occur, it's not a lot to expect we get coached up to upset a team we "Shouldn't", like an Iowa, who we almost beat at their place last time, or a Wisconsin. Or, under the right stars, OSU.
I'm all for the people who say let the season run it's course before firing him. But let's make sure we don't look horrid this year before we extend the contract too.
i completely agree about the silliness of setting a magic number for wins. i could dream up a scenario under which even rodriguez's harshest critic would want him back after a 5-7 season (think terrible injuries, a top-3 recruiting class, big wins against OSU & MSU, bad luck, etc.) and a scenario under with his staunchest defender would want him out after a 13-0 season (think major, major violations). it's a dumb game to play no matter where you set the bar.
I'm happy if we get 7 or 8 wins. I just really want us to go to a bowl game because bowl season has sucked the last two years. I think that we should start to get yardage parity this year because now Rich Rodriquez has a quarterback that has been in the system for two years. We were awfully close to winning 3 other games last year as well so I feel very confident we will at least get 7 maybe even 8 wins this year.
"2008 was a complete waste. To me, this is year two for Rodriguez, and 2011 is when I expect rubber to meet road." - You have taken the words that I've have been speaking for the past two years out of my mouth. If anybody didn't look at 2008 as a complete write off just has no clue about football. They're are just Michigan fans. They are not fans of, nor are they knowledgable about the sport. This guy has had the painful transitions EVERYWHERE he's been but, he has also been very successful immediately afterwards. Let's take a look at what happened with year "one". Got off to a hot 4-0 start, then we have injuries to Tate, Molk, Minor, Brown, and Tay. Those were some pretty damned important pieces to the offensive puzzle. I know almost doesn't count, but it really says something that despite those setbacks, they were in every game this year, and came close to winning most of the ones they lost. That's with last year's defense. I'm excited for 2010 and beyond because I think this will be the true start of the RR era. More depth, more practices, more time in his and Gerg's system, more time in the weight room with Sgt. Barwis, more game time experience, and more time for this team to grow and gel together as a unit. You don't hire a reputable company to build a structure, yet fire them and start over when they're halfway done because you think some other company can do it faster. Even if they build it faster, will it be sturdy? And what would be the costs of building it faster? Rome wasn't built in a day; but turned out to be one kick ass empire. Let's just sit back and watch this program prove everyone wrong.
David Brandon himself said that there are some people in the Michigan family that will never accept Rich Rod as the head football coach. I don't look at Rich with rose colored glasses, I look at him as the head coach of the team that I love. I supported those before him and I will support those after him. I won't do it blindly, but I will give them every benefit of a doubt I can.
The people in the Michigan family who don't support Rich have got to be getting nervous. God forbid that he should actually succeed! What will they do then? When Michigan returns to a winning team will they support him then or do they just wait, however long, until he is gone and hope for someone they will be happy with?
I hope Brandon cleans out some of the family who wanted to see Rich fail badly enough that they contacted or supplied the NCAA with information.
I am convinced of it. Brandon can look at the schedule himself and see that 6 or 7 wins may be all that's possible this year. It's an "in for a penny, in for a pound" proposition--there's no guarantees with any other coach out there, and starting over will not be pretty.
Barring absolute disaster, Brandon has the chutzpah and the clout to shout down the naysayers for another year. And the 2011 team will be a very good one. As long as the win chart shows an upward arc, RR has two years. Book it.
This disaster has also revealed that RichRod is on the up and up. That's an important take- away. I like him even better now.
(Forgiveness--I posted this on a thread yesterday, but the diary didn't draw much attention.)
It was so well said that I felt it necessary to opine...and earn my 3rd point in the process.
Michigan fans should have expected a rough transition when RR was hired given the major changes that everyone from Bill Martin to a fair-weather fan knew were coming.
At least Michigan is getting better, not getting worse or going sideways which would be a worrying sign. Assuming he wins 6-8 games this year, I think it would be ridiculous not to give him another year. I can't think of another coach that could come in next year and magically fix everything. If anything, changing coaches would set us back another 2-4 years at least. And you're right Brian...once RR gets this thing on track, we could easily see a decade or two of top 10 football.
Finally although someone would be forgiven for thinking RR is some sort of drama queen given all of the off-the-field issues the last few years, I really think some people just have bad luck in bunches. RR doesn't strike me as an underhanded dude at all.
The year 2013 is the year this year's 39 scholarship athletes will be seniors. 2012 is senior year for the first year of recruits RR had a full recruiting shot at. I don't think 2011 is necessarily make or break. Either of the next two years might be though. I still see wins moving from 3 (2008) to 5 (2009) to 7, 9, 11, 13 (NC).
On this schedule, 13 wins come in 2013. I'd call that nice, steady progress.
Pretty sure the 39 freshmen are a combination of redshirt frosh and the class of 2010 frosh so they all won't be seniors in 2013.
That said I really believe 2011 is THE year because there's the night game, the incredibly easy schedule and Tate and Denard are upper classmen. No excuses. That's gotta be a 10 win team.
I'll take 7-8 wins in 2010 if it means RRod can coach that 2011 team.
The program was in decline long before Rich Rodriguez arrived in Ann Arbor. I, for one, am thankful that he is the one rebuilding our program. He was the best choice at the time. He has a proven record. He does things the right way (this investigation has proven that point beyond any doubt I had). And it is clear to me, primarily from reading Brian and Tim and all the other wonderful contributors to this blog, that Rodriguez is bringing in high quality players and that a tougher, united team is being built in Ann Arbor.
I can tell from watching Rodriguez on the Michigan Coach’s show every week for the past two years, meeting him when he was in DC last summer, and watching his press conferences, reading the clips, etc. that he cares a great deal about his players. He is passionate about winning. And he respects the tradition of Michigan. I love seeing Jerry Hanlon spend so much time on the sidelines, appearing on the coach’s show, continuing the tradition of reading his letter to the team before the Ohio State game each year. I love seeing Moeller welcomed back to the program. I don’t believe there is anyone who wants to win more for Michigan than Rich Rodriguez. And I like that he embraces our past even though he wasn’t personally a part of it.
In my opinion, if Jerry Hanlon, Bo's right hand man for so many years, supports Rich Rodriguez then I'm confident we're in good hands.
Some forget how bad things were BEFORE Rodriguez was hired. During his final 7 years Carr was 1-6 against Ohio State (the first Michigan coach to suffer a 1-6 stretch). 2-5 in Bowl Games. And, of course, Appalachian State. For comparison, John Cooper was 2-5 against Michigan in his final 7 years.
The Bo-Moeller-Carr era sadly came to an end. It was time to start a new era. I blame Carr for the end or this string. I'm sure other reasonable people can point fingers fairly at someone else. But to end your reign 1-6 against our primary rival is strong evidence that the program was in serious trouble.
In 2008, we hit bottom. We all wish we were 6-6 in 2008 and 7-5 in 2009 but it doesn't really matter that we were 3-9 and 5-7 instead. What matters, to me, is that we re-build the program so that we are competitive with OSU, challenging for the Big Ten Title every year, and a serious contender for the national title on a regular basis.
It seems to me that Coach Rodriguez is putting the pieces together to build a program that will reach these goals. In the past, he turned around programs in 2 years. But I don’t think he started a walkon at quarterback in any of his previous jobs or a true freshman his second year. I am hopeful and quite confident given his track record and steady improvement from 2008 to 2009 that year 3 will be the turn-around year for him at Michigan.
I walked out of Michigan Stadium after the Appalachian State game wondering how a coach could allow his team to be complacent enought (in the first game!) for that to happen. After the Oregon game the next week (no one mentions this, but to me this was even more embarrassing - Michigan got absolutely smoked, 39-7) I was ready for a new coach.
Yes it was that two game stretch that finally exposed the malaise of the program and the need for a new era to begin...
You don't call broken winning season and bowl births, an NCAA investigation, disgruntled players mouthing off to the press all the while losing to our rivals A and B, turning the program around?
Now I guess the "company line" is something akin to a Lenten Season. The faithful must fast and repent for the poor treatment of Rodriguez, we must understand that this genius has had insurmountable mountains to climb. What is this new testament where what was once sacred is turned on its head? Why are we called on to rededicate ourselves and convert to a new value system where previous wins were less holy than the cross the coaching savior must carry as he leads us to some promised land?
Sorry, I don't buy any of this nonsense. I can't square my love of Michigan with a personality more inclined to plausible deniability than accountability, more apt to point a finger than shoulder a burden. Rodriguez was handed the keys to the kingdom and I'll be damned if I'm going to join the excuse makers. He has failed, it's on him, not Carr, not the players he's pissed off, not the alum who never embraced him.
He's got nothing left but to win, he's tarnished everything else.
I'm guessing you also want those damn kids off of your lawn?
without seeing the results on the field this year needs his/her head examined. If the last two years had been a legacy coach, promoted from within, then UM should have gone in a different direction last December.
A losing season will most likely doom RR, 7-5 or better with wins against MSU and OSU should get at least another year. This upcoming season is like being a freshman in college, you have to do well enough to get to the next year and then really take off.
If we don't beat OSU, then 8-4 or better might be needed to keep the current staff in place. Unfortunately, money talks and big-time boosters and doners might go overboard if there aren't some signature wins this season.
If they minimize the mistakes and play just decent defense, 8-4 or better is doable. I believe RR needs to go at least 4-4 in conference play, including wins over MSU and someone other than Indiana to solidfy his place for 2011. I hear Bowling Green could be tough and we know nothing about ND at this point so it won't be easy, but it's doable.
Go RIchRod and GO BLUE
7 wins, and giving roughly as good as we get in the 10 real games on the schedule.
I think it's realistic. The only position group where we are clearly below average is DB, and if the safeties are just below average instead of off-the-charts awful the overall defense could be average or better.
you are right on the money with your analysis of the M football team for 2010 and 2011. I think that because you know so much more about the UM team than does the "average bear" reporter that "thinks" they know M football, this gives you the ability to give a more accurate reflection of reality. That, and the fact that you actually analyse issues with facts. Thanks again for your fantastic writing.
C'mon don't be such a hater. Last November was on the heels of a disappointing season.
when Brian, of all of us, pulled 8-5 out of the air last November. I thought it would be insane to drive RR out of AA after '10 with all of his recruits just coming of age in time for the '11 season. I'm thinking that even Brian succumbs at times to the pressure of the moment -- hell, he's said as much himself -- and I welcome his new bar as being closer to what I was hoping, which is that things will succumb to RR's and the team's perseverence and that we will get to see what a fully-developed '11 squad can do. And I do look forward to seeing what growing experience on offense can do in '10 as well.
I already posted this in a different discussion, but I think it applies here as well. I did some stats on RR vs. Tressel vs. past Michigan coaches. Let me know what you guys think. All win-loss percentages are wins divided by total games, and all numbers are from Wikipedia or MGoBlue.
Jim Tressel: 2001-Present (9 seasons)
Impressive. But he's only coached more seasons than Gary Moeller on the Michigan Football Coaches' Hit Parade:
Fielding Yost (Mr. Point-a-Minute, four consecutive NCs from 1901 to 1904): 80.88% (25 seasons)
Fritz Crisler (Winged Helmet Guy, 1947 M team 'Best M Team Ever', beat USC 49-0 in 1948 Rose Bowl): 80.50% (9 seasons)
Bo Schembechler (University of Michigan, beat Woody Hayes' best Buckeye squad 24-12 in Ann Arbor 1969, 5-4-1 against Hayes overall, best record of college football coaches in the 1970s (96-16-3)): 78.54% (20 seasons)
Bo Schembechler (Overall, coached at Miami of Ohio under Hayes): 76.22% (37 seasons)
Gary Moeller (University of Michigan): 73.33% (4 seasons)
Lloyd Carr (University of Michigan, national champions in 1997, 5-2 against Ohio State before 2002): 75.30% (13 seasons)
What do these numbers tell us? Well, on paper Tressel is more successful than any Michigan football coach in history--for 9 seasons. If he can keep up this winning pace for the next 10-15 years we might be screwed, but I have a feeling Tresselball isn't going to cut it much longer in the Big Ten. Time vil tell.
Here are RR's stats vs. Tressel:
At present, Michigan is 0-2 against Ohio State under head coach Rich Rodriguez. How do Jim Tressel's and RR's overall records stack up?
Tressel (Youngstown State, division I-AA): 69.59% (16 seasons)
Tressel (Ohio State, division I-A): 81.74% (9 seasons)
Rodriguez (Glenville State, division I-AA): 58.90% (7 seasons)
Rodriguez (West Virginia University, division I-A): 69.77% (7 seasons)
Rodriguez (Michigan, division I-A): 33.33% (2 seasons)
The division difference is key. Rodriguez started as a head coach at programs that were already beaten up and he gave them a new direction offensively. His winning percentage at WVU (a D-1 school) is better than Tressel's at Glenville State (a D-2 school)--but Tressel coached at YSU for 16 years. Both coaches have equal experience coaching at the D-1 level.
Tressel knows how to win games, but the jury's still out on whether he's actually building a program the way RR is at Michigan or if he's relying on high-quality recruits to win games for him. Given how badly he's been outschemed against quality opponents (1 for 3 in NC games, losing half his bowl games, losing 2 in a row to USC), I lean towards the latter.
As for RR, either the 2012 apocalypse has hit Michigan 4 years early, or his WLP at Michigan is skewed because he's only coached for two seasons.
I thinks it kind of funny how much heat Tressell gets. If you asked a fan of any school, would you be happy if over a 9 yr period your school posted the following:
2 other appearances in the NC game
7 BCS Bowl berths (wins in 4 of them)
6 straight conference titles
8-1 vs your arch rival
Just about any fan would jump at that. Tressell might not win pretty, and he's had some struggles against high quality opponents lately, but he's got a helluva resume going at OSU right now.
Getting high quality recruits is half the battle. Any program from a BCS conference that is almost an annual fixture in the Top 10 needs to get high quality recruits.
Me thinks you all are wasting your allotted tube space in the internets.
See if this argument is necessary a month into the season; then check back in with each other after another month; then do so after another.
Writing about and debating this now is just a big mental and virtual circle jerk. Have fun with that.
Writing about and debating this now is just a big mental and virtual circle jerk. Have fun with that.
Are you serious? It's the offseason and there's a media storm whipping about the NCAA violations that only fuels the fire for those who wanted RR's head on a stick as soon as he stepped on campus. It couldn't be more relevant to dissect how expectations for next season will and should affect RR's keeping his job. Do you have a better idea of what to talk about now? God I hope you were being sarcastic.
God I hope you were being sarcastic.
Seriously, this is not God speaking to you through your computer. The internets know a lot, but they are not all-knowing. Now carry on my son.
i hated the last two season, with a passion, but dont blame RR for that. He brought a whole new scheme with him, and that takes time to kick in. We cant fire him, we need him. A new coach will start these articles all over again, and so on and so forth. Even with the losses, u can see the ability of the team and players, as they grow it will only get better, and consistent. i believe with RR we will win a championship before Devin Gardner grad. The chance to score on any givin play is scary, this years team will put that together frequently, they have experience now, and it will only get better and better, which will land top recruits and give us the chance to win in every game no matter who were playing
Given the weak defensive depth and no QB's his first year , his losing record was quite predictable. May be Bo would have gotten a .500 record out of the 2008 squad.
2009...RR finished about where I thought he would given a very weak defense. The team should have played more aggressive at home against Purdue, instead of going into a shell shock after a few big plays. If we would have won the home game against Purdue we would have finished .500 and played in a bowl game.
2010..Overall talent and depth has improved within the D. It may take half the year before this young defense begins to gel. I'm hoping for 6 to 8 wins! If RR can get the team to a bowl, then he deserves at least one more season got get 9 or more wins in 2011. I would give RR another year even if he only wins 4 or 5 games this season...but I have this feeling RR will have to win 8 games this season and beat MSU or OSU to keep his job. I don't like the prospects of throwing in the towel early on RR.
I don't see another NC here until RR can build a dominating defense. He may have started the building blocks for one but the job will not be completed for another several years! Though, if we can get back to having the typical good UM defense, I could see 9 to 10 wins per season with BCS bowl games in our immediate future. Especially if the spread offense can pile up the points.
I thought back in mid-season 2008 that we'd be opening up a new stadium with a new team in 2010. One that has some depth/experience at QB and Defense. I agree completely with this analysis that says 2011. I'm as anxious as anyone to see if we can pull off 7-8 wins and turn the heat down to Medium on RichRod for a year.
Listening to the radio and reading outside information, you'd never think he'd be given the opportunity. But I have confidence that Brandon knows what's up and think as long as the wheels don't come off again (do we have any left on this ride?) Rodriguez will be back in 2011. I think we'll go 7-6 just to make it interesting and keep all the haters riled up, but 2011 can't get here fast enough for me. The spoiled fans will be gone and those of us who stuck this thing out will watch with pride...
I have to agree with this analysis. An immediate, emotional firing of Rodriguez following a marginal season in 2010 is going to create chaos. Another coaching search and player attrition would leave the program possibly worse off than it could be with Rodriguez at the helm in 2011. I think with the large numbers of upperclassmen starters in the 2011 season, that should be the real measuring stick. There must be positive movements toward returning to national prominence. A 5-7 season would be tough to swallow and I know most fans would have a tough time sitting through a season that mirrors last year’s second half collapse. However, it is my opinion that continuity rules in college sports and by axing Rodriguez after 2010 is a mistake that will have repercussions and will likely mean Michigan continuing as a marginal to below average team for another 2-3 years. Hopefully none of this matters and RR goes 9-3 next year.
Drive the ball right down OSU's throat!!!
Unfortunately, I have to agree with what many have been saying for years; that many Michigan coaches, players, and fans are quoting Michigan's stellar record as a great football power. Many have been correct, as indicated by the regressive nature of the football program. Much of the stats were amassed when Michigan was much superior to their opponents. Now there is more parity among teams and Michigan has to perform in order to retain their lofty status. No amount of bragging will elevate the team to greatness. Greatness will only be acomplished by an insidious preparatory process. I believe that process is beginning, regardless of what people say about RR (they may be correct), but the team appears to be on the right track. I thought some of the losses under coach Carr were aganizing, but nothing compares to the last two years. Until the Michigan coaching staff recruits better than Tressel and begins to beat OSU, I have a fear that the storied record of Michigan football may be eclipsed by someone else. I certaily hope that doesn't happen.