Trent to the Bengals with the 179th overall pick. 6th pick in the 6th round.
That would be sweet if he ever started with Leon.
...special teams gunner?
Now those Ohio fans can know what it feels like.
I almost feel bad for the Bengals. Terrible pick if they are looking for a guy that can tackle. Also a terrible pick if they want a guy that can cover. If they want a guy that can run fast then I guess Trent can be your guy there, but I'm guessing football isn't all about running around fast and doing absolutely nothing else. Idk... just a hunch.
It delights me, however, that we don't have to see this guy in the maize and blue again (barring some future spring game flag football).
Trent was pretty good in 2007. In 2008 his coaching sucked. I think you're being a little too harsh, especially with your "It delights me that we don't have to see this guy in the maize and blue again" comment.
that I may be a little harsh on this one, and I was being slightly sarcastic, but for all the hype he got, he was nothing. I agree the coaching was mostly poor last season for defense, but seriously. I don't remember a play where I thought he looked especially good at coverage. He never wrapped up either. He throws his arms at a guy and hopes for the best. I would never draft him myself, but I'm not associiated with an NFL franchise either.
He really didn't give up any big plays in 2007. Believe me when I say that the entire secondary played poorly in 2008, and guess what - the cornerback coach (Shaffer) is no longer employed by the University of Michigan. That's not a coincidence.
Also, I don't know that Morgan Trent ever really got any hype. The only hype he got was that he was fast, and he is. I don't know where the "hype" comment comes from.
I never had high expectations for Trent. Any hype was mostly sarcastic/joking, e.g. "He beat Ted Ginn in a race, therefore he will win the Heisman Trophy."
I'll never understand where all the Morgan Trent hate comes from. Yes, he sucked against USC and Ohio State in 2006. He was a sophomore, and the rest of the secondary sucked, too. He had a very good year in 2007, just like his cornerback comrade Donovan Warren. Both players fall off the face of the Earth in 2008, and it certainly wasn't because of a lack of talent.
Trent was put into tough situations, and obviously he struggled at times. The leap to "worst player ever" is a ridiculous, though
Not giving Leon Hall a whole lot of credit.
I was talking specifically about the USC and OSU games. Everyone thought that our defense was superb until the secondary fell apart in those games.
I'm pretty sure that Leon Hall did not play particularly well in either of those games, especially against USC. Dwayne Jarrett had 11 catches for 205 yards and Steve Smith had 7 catches for 108 yards. I find it hard to believe that all those yards came only against Morgan Trent. So, yes, the secondary, including Leon Hall, sucked at the end of 2006, and Morgan Trent is not the worst player ever.
Come from the fact that he wore a Buckeye helmet sticker in the Senior Bowl? I think a bunch of people irrationally complained about that.
I did in fact realize we got rid of schafer. Believe me,I hope and think shafer had a lot to do with a poor secondary, but it has to be blamed at least a little on the players. I did hear a lot of hype about Trent and it was mostly about speed. Along with that hype came hype about being best on our team (i disagree) and possible all big ten. Dont remember where i read this, but it happened.
I think that a lot of people hyped him up to be All-Big Ten caliber. 2008 was his third year starting, and he had looked much improved in 2007. Then, be it coaching, laziness, or both, he played like utter crap last season
"I would never draft him myself, but I'm not associiated with an NFL franchise either."
This is why they're making a lot of money in the front office of an NFL franchise, and you're not. It's not like we're talking about a grossly incompetent team like the Lions.
You realize he was a 6th round pick, right? There aren't many flawless players left at that point. Trent is fast, agile (excellent shuttle time), strong (good reps on bench for a CB), and an excellent size for a CB (6'1", 193 at the combine). He also, it would seem, had poor coaching last year.
So, you have a guy with ideal size, good speed, good agility, and good strength available in the 6th round who seemed to receive poor coaching and struggled in the more fundamental aspects of the game?
I'd say that picking him, especially that late, under the assumption that you can coach him up is a solid decision.
Seems like Michigan and USC alums make up about 20% of their roster.
Palmer, Keith Rivers, Maualuga, Trent, Chris Perry, Leon Hall, Rucker, Dhani Jones, etc, etc.
According to my sources, their scouting system over the past 6 years has consisted of drinking a bunch of beer at the Tournament of Roses parade and then watching the Rose Bowl.
It also explains why they picked up Cedric Benson, and signed J.D. Runnels.
The rest of the players they choose in the draft are just randomly selected from publicly available Mock Drafts (they're not willing to pay for ESPN Insider).
the bengals are in for a rude awakening
Trent was/is a pretty solid player. He is light's out against a screen.
As a Michigan Fan and a Baltimore Ravens fan I can only hope he nails down a starting job so we can see him twice a year, good kid not so good at times, will probably stick on special teams.
As long as this guy is gone from the Wolverines I dont give a crap where he's at now. He was one of the worst Michigan players I ever saw start on the team.
I am certainly not a UM historian, but I seriously doubt that Morgan Trent was one of the worst players to ever start for this team. Have you SEEN some of the players that have worn the Maize and Blue? Trent disappointed last year, but he has all the requisite tools to be a good DB in the pro game, and as a 6th round pick he might develop into a decent special teamer/dime package player. The fact he was drafted makes me think that he is a decent player.
Thanks for signing up today to tell us that. You are a great Michigan fan.
I should of reserved my above reply for this douche.
I never cease to be amazed how much 'fans' get offended when players fail to entertain them.
Ive been analyzing Michigan football for about 30 years...no fking way Trent is 'one of the worst starters ever'...buy a fking clue and stop hating. Trent had his ups and downs but overall was a pretty decent player.
drafted because of his speed, bengals are hoping they can fix his technique.
Jesus, people. Trent has a fast 40 (4th fastest CB at the combine), a good bench workout (23 reps - 4th strongest CB), a good vertical jump (8th), a good broad jump (6th), and did phenomenonally at the cone drills (3rd fastest in the short distance, fastest in the long distance). At 6'1", 193#, he's big for a corner while still being fast and agile. He had no discipline problems and has a solid reputation for being a good person.
He also, it would seem, received poor coaching in 2008, as his position coach got canned.
So the Bengals, in the SIXTH ROUND, where there is nothing approaching a flawless player, drafted a guy with every single athletic measurable you could want and a reputation for hard-work, under the assumption that they might be able to coach him up into being a good player. All they risked is a 6th round pick.
To me, that seems like a sound strategy.
Cato June never impressed me when he played for Michigan. He turned out to be a Pro Bowler. Breaston used to have hands of stone and he made it to the Super Bowl. Morgan Trent has great athleticism. What he lacks is something that can be taught...technique. Don't be surprised if he turns out to be a solid CB in the NFL.