This HAS to be Kiffin's last big time coaching job. The guy has proved absolutely nothing on the field and does not deserve to be a head coach at a big program. He will either go back to being a coordinator or a head coach at some small school, maybe even in FCS.
Monday Recruitin' Saw It Coming
The Peter Principle Has Its Limits...
...those limits include allowing 62 points to Arizona State, apparently. (Photo: USA Today)
USC fired Lane Kiffin upon his return to Los Angeles after the Trojans fell 62-41 at Arizona State, their seventh loss in the last 11 games. The method? Coooooold bloooooded.
Lane Kiffin remained on the bus when a #USC administrator blocked the gate and stopped bus, asking Kiffin to step off
— InsideUSC (@InsideUSC) September 30, 2013
Lane Kiffin told bus to stay but adminisrator told driver to go to #USC with Kiffin's briefcase still on the bus
— InsideUSC (@InsideUSC) September 30, 2013
Pat Haden then fired Lane Kiffin in parking lot at Landmark Aviation at LAX. A football staff member then got sent to USC to get briefcase
— InsideUSC (@InsideUSC) September 30, 2013
The InsideUSC feed is a font of Kiffin schadenfreude; the players are just as happy as the admistrators to get rid of him, it appears. When you're done enjoying that, it's time to address the truly important question: how does Kiffin's firing affect Michigan's recruiting?
In all likelihood, not a great deal. Kiffin's firing at this juncture not only boosts USC's morale for the rest of the season—more importantly, it gives them a jump start on reeling in a big-name replacement, and the Trojans program carries enough cachet that the list of potential successors is quite distinguished. USC may experience a dip in recruiting efforts while they wait to find the right replacement; if they hire a coach worthy of the program—and I'm assuming they will—then they should be back to full speed for the 2015 class. Those in need of an example of how this works at powerhouse programs need only look at Michigan's recruiting efforts once Brady Hoke got to recruit for a full cycle.
There is, however, an opening in the 2014 class, as USC is one of the schools competing with Michigan for CA ATH John "JuJu" Smith—the childhood USC fan had already read the tea leaves, per 247:
Similar to five-star Adoree’ Jackson, Smith is one of the most highly recruited uncommitted prospects out west and is a five-star prospect that could play either side of the football. Also similar to Jackson, Smith is a major USC priority and hails from a talent factory at Long Beach Poly.
“I already knew it was coming. So it doesn’t change anything until they do something.”
Smith seems to have cooled on USC since Kiffin's job security came under serious question; while the right hire could get the Trojans right back in the mix, there's a real chance that he heads out of state, with official visits already lined up to Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Oregon. UCLA is also in the mix. Pulling blue-chip recruits out of California is never easy, but Michigan's done so before, and Smith is actually in contact with one such player who hails from the same high school, per The Wolverine's Andy Reid ($):
"Michigan hasn't offered a kid from Poly since Donovan Warren. I'm the one that's next. I've talked a bit to him, good kid. Just saying the name 'Donovan Warren' is like saying Michigan right off the bat at Poly."
That's a good sign, as is Michigan getting Smith's final official visit. With such fierce competition for his signature—look out for Oregon, as Smith cancelled an Ole Miss official to get them on his schedule—and five visits to go, his recruitment could go in just about any direction; that includes USC if they make the right hire at the right time.
[Hit THE JUMP for Wilton Speight's thoughts on Da'Shawn Hand, a wrapup of Michigan commit performances from last weekend, and more.]
Da'Shawn Hand Recruitment Status: Irie
Sam Webb's latest at the News, featuring Wilton Speight discussing the recruitments of George Campbell and Da'Shawn Hand, is a must-read; the Campbell content should reassure those worried about a potential decommit*, while Speight's statement on Hand—well, judge for yourself:
“I think this is kind of a situation similar to George Campbell,” Speight stated. “(Hand) kind of went a little bit into what jersey number he could wear and stuff like that [at the Notre Dame game]. I think when you start dipping that much into the whole situation and start to go into detail like that -- certainly he told me some things and we talked late (that) night about some very positive things in my future and in his. So I think I got a lot of very positive vibes, but at the same time I want to keep (the specifics of) what we talked about between us.”
That sounds quite promising, to say the least. Hand continues to reveal little about his recruitment, as evidenced in the latest edition of the First and 17 video series at the Washington Post; unless Florida blows him away, though, it's tough to see a school catching Michigan before his November 14th decision date.
[If you watch through the entire First and 17 video, you'll see at the end that one of Hand's teammates was tragically murdered last Saturday after an alleged confrontation over a drug deal gone wrong. My thoughts are with the family of Kenny Diaz and the entire Woodbridge community as they deal with this senseless loss of a young life.]
Commit Stat Roundup: 2015 Commits Star
The much-anticipated battle between Paramus Catholic and Cleveland St. Ignatius ended up in a blowout; after missing most of the first half with a hip injury after diving onto concrete while attempting to reel in a pass, Jabrill Peppers accounted for 46 yards on the first drive of the third quarter, including a 25-yard touchdown reception, and the Paladins cruised to a 44-10 victory over one of Ohio's elite programs.
The biggest commit standouts of the weekend, however, came from the 2015 class. RB Damien Harris carried the ball just nine times in Madison Southern's 48-7 win over South Laurel; he tallied 122 yards and four touchdowns despite the dearth of touches, including a 30-yard TD run on the first play from scrimmage. Harris has led the Eagles to a 5-0 start this season; they share the same record as East Lake, which got 121 receiving yards and a touchdown out of WR George Campbell in a 49-6 blowout of Tarpon Springs. Campbell also tallied two tackles, a sack, and a QB hurry, per MaxPreps.
Michigan's junior defensive back commits, Shaun Crawford and Tyree Kinnel, also made a big impact, albeit on different sides of the ball. Crawford had 91 yards on seven rushes—including a 66-yard touchdown—and another 56 yards on three catches as St. Edward defeated Erie McDowell 56-7. Kinnel returned an interception 85 yards for a touchdown to swing the momentum in favor of Huber Heights Wayne just before halftime of an eventual 54-27 win over Butler—his score came during a run of 40 consecutive points for the Warriors.
Other standouts from the weekend:
- 247's Clint Brewster was on hand to see ECA defeat Maplewood 60-20 in Nashville ($). Freddy Canteen caught five passes for 90 yards and two touchdowns, while Brandon Watson didn't allow a catch all night and had a pick six called back on what Brewster called a "very questionable" pass interference penalty.
- Wilton Speight completed 18 of 29 passes for 247 yards, three TDs, and an interception to lead The Collegiate School to a 31-12 victory over Episcopal.
- WR Moe Ways caught three passes for 56 yards and scored on a leaping 25-yard catch to help Country Day to a 34-7 win over the Escanaba Eskymos (no, not a typo; yes, they're Yoopers).
- LB Michael Ferns made his mark on offense, scoring on a 27-yard catch and a three-yard run in St. Clairsville's in a 21-0 shutout of Indian Creek, which deserves to be shut out every game for continuing to use the slur "Redskins" as their team name.
- DE Lawrence Marshall's first-half sack forced a fumble that a Southfield teammate picked up and took to the house, tying their game with Farmington Hills Harrison at 13; a dramatic finish gave the Blue Jays a 20-19 win over their divisional foe.
- LB Noah Furbush notched ten tackles (one TFL) in Kenton's 46-0 blowout of Shawnee.
- DT Bryan Mone had two tackles for loss in a 16-8 victory for Highland over Clearfield.
In a long-anticipated move, IL DB Parrker Westphal narrowed down his field to three schools: Michigan State, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt. Michigan seemed to back off Westphal as numbers in the 2014 class got tight, and the Wildcats now appear to be the favorites to land him.
MD WR Juwann Winfree, who had a Michigan offer, committed to the in-state Terps over the weekend ($, info in header). If Randy Edsall sticks around—no guarantee, obviously—then Maryland program could very well be a solid addition to the Big Ten.
*Do these people exist? I honestly have no idea.
I hope he lays low for a while.
After looking at his career so far, he'll probably up the next Texas head coach.
After looking at his career so far, he'll probably be the next Fed chairman.
I forgot no politics
Kiffin just hasn't gotten it done, and bailed on the Vols for the greener pastures of USC. He will probably get a job as an OC of a second-tier BCS team before being a head coach again; I do think we'll see him running another program, but not in the near future (unless it's a small-time school).
Kiffin's only 38 years old though. He may yet climb the ladder again.
his ego won't allow him to go to an FCS school.
he'll coordinate somewhere until a mid-level bcs school wants to make a splash. press conference will feature him discussing his "personal growth" and desire to do things "the right way".
Wow. Having had the unenviable task of firing many people over my 30+ years in sales management I can tell you that the scene you describe (if true) absolutely smacks of a situation where the supervisor does NOT like the subordinate at all and is looking for a way to inflict maximum humiliation and discomfort in the dismissal.
Not saying Kiffin didnt deserve it and not saving he didnt absolutely have it coming but I'm a little surprised that the "USC administrator" (I'm guessing Haden) didnt try to do this a bit more discretely.
Coffee is for closers and clear out your desk.
"Second prize is these lovely steak knives. Third prize is you're fired. DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION NOW?"
Either that or they absolutely did not want him in their building again, which may have been even more confrontational. Also sounds like it was done in the heat of the moment.
According to some of the USC fans on reddit, that guy that tweeted those things is known to fabricate things. They also pointed to a tweet from a player or two saying coaches don't even ride on the bus so the described incident couldn't have happened, or at least was imbellished. I agree with you, he's a dick, but getting yanked off the bus seems over the top.
I think I missed something about why people were worried about a Campbell decommit...why would that be on our minds?
seems consistent with the general 'sky is falling' theme around here.
Are you saying the sky isn't falling?
There's no reason to worry unless you're the type to worry whenever other schools dare to continue recruiting a five-star who's committed elsewhere. There's been zero indication from Campbell that he's anything but 100% committed to Michigan; in fact, he's gone out of his way to say he won't entertain other offers.
Not for any real reason. Just the "he's from far away, is a 5-star and we haven't been killing it lately" type stuff. Not because there's any actual evidence of his intentions.
Having Mason Cole certainly helps.
Also, he's a 2015 kid and there's 16 months left in his recruitment. Lot of time to fend off the wolves.
Glad to see Collegiate beat Episcopal - we hated those bastards back in the day in NoVa.
the Sheriff on the right in that photo of Kiffin?
Pretty nice buffer on that guy...
unless he's over 18.
Mike Farrell needs a smaller hat in that video. He must tuck his ears in for aerodynamics
Lane Kiffin has two things going for him right now:
1) He looks like Daniel Tosh
2) His wife is hot
Not sure what that does for his future, but someone will hire this doofus again.
tosh or kiffin?
let's start with this one:
then this one:
I didn't realize that Tosh coached in the Pac 12!
Lane Kiffin ha[d] two things going for him
Maryland has the potential to be very good, at least on offense next year, they have two potential first round wider recievers (stefon diggs would probably immediatley be the best wr in the big ten) and a young ol that is playing ok right now. Plus locksley has been doing a great job of locking down in state talent since he came back from being a terrible head coach. If they keep bringing in the local recruits like jalen tabor they will probably be another above middle team in the east division.
The Redskin comment I'm not sure was necessary.
Is that political? idk. maybe not.
But Ace, I guess that is totally your opinion man. Although I am only slightly Native American, and do not have a whole lot of ground to stand on*, my feelings on the matter is that of recognition & pride. Whether is the Illini, the Chips, Washington Redskins, or even those totally racist Cleveland Indians, I think it serves as a reminder that these cultures are a big part of our country and how we were formed.
Either way, to say a bunch of kids should lose football games over their mascot, in which they have no control over is a little harsh.
*seriously, no pun intended.
without being kinda racist. I'm cool with the Chippewas, the Illini, etc.
/also plays "slightly Native American" card
Agree with you. Can totally see how the "Redskins" can be offensive to Native American groups. Would like some insight as to how tribe names (Hurons, Chippewas, Seminoles, etc) are offensive? Anyone know?
Some tribes think certain schools/teams represent them well. Some don't.
I'm part Chippewa, and as I understand it most of the bands of Chippewa have a good relationship with CMU and generally approve of the use of the name.
I mentioned below, but one of the major bands of Lakota in North Dakota takes offense at the "Fighting Sioux" nickname, because (a) it depicts them as a violent, warlike people, and (b) 'Sioux' isn't a very accurate term for reasons that escape me.
I think that makes you a Chippewa of the old block which is probably better then a Boy Named Sioux.
I thought the problem with the Fighting Sioux name was bureaucratic - that one of the two main tribes gave its approval, but the other never actually voted on it, because it didn't have a provision in its constitution to hold a vote on the matter, or something along those lines.
Chippewa is what the french called us. it was their interpretation of Ojibwa, which was the name used by other tribes to refer to us. we do have a name that we called ourselves, but i can't spell after 10pm and spell check wont help here. in general, there was no negative conotation to either name. one tale is that Ojibwa means "eaters of cook meat"; we were the first health nuts -- yeah for us!
your supposition of how the tribe in question is represented is correct; CMU, FSU, Il U and several others worked with the corresponding tribes to make sure everyone was on the same page. the UND feascoi'll leave for others to discuss.
(I'm aware my opinion as a white male doesn't hold much weight on this matter, but:)
Naming a team after a specific tribe is fine by me as long as the tribe is fine with it (ex: Illini, Chippawas, Seminoles, etc...). The Cleveland Indians is more tricky, sense that name is taken from a mistake. Indians doesn't really strike me as offensive or mean spirited as much as it is just a wrong descriptor. HOWEVA, that mascot needs to be stopped. You can argue tradition, branding, all of that BS but it is a racist caricature of an entire race of human beings. If people can't see it, then change the face from red to black and tell me that's not offensive. (And yes, it would be offensive as long as the logo is supposed to represent any race, be it black, white, Native American, whatever...)
"I think it serves as a reminder that these cultures are a big part of our country and how we were formed."
And here is where we come to Washington.
"Redskin" is a part of Native American culture like blackface is a part of African culture or "dirty/greedy jew" jokes are a part of Jewish culture. It is exclusively derogatory term for them coined and used by white men and using the term "Redskins" is just offensive, period. People can play the "PC police" card all they want, but the fact is that the redskin name and logo are akin to naming a team the Blackfaces with a logo being a black guy. Just because our history books like to sprint through this part of American History to get to the civil war does not mean that it's finally okay to use it.
The Cleveland Indians is more tricky, sense that name is taken from a mistake. Indians doesn't really strike me as offensive or mean spirited as much as it is just a wrong descriptor.
The term may have originated by accident, but it's not really a wrong descriptor. The name is still widely in use. Many people prefer being called "Indian" to "Native American," for various reasons.
But yeah, the logo has got to go.
It's interesting that no one can really decide on the "correct" term. Some prefer Indian, some prefer Native American, some prefer American Indian. Some prefer to be called Maurice.
for the Steve Miller reference this late at night.
A long time ago, at a university that isn't UM (but recently kick ND butt), i was a member and officer of the student chapter of AISCES or American Indian Science and engineering Society. This was long before the shift to using Native American instead of the inacurrate Indian.
Again, it is late at night, and that was a long time ago...
...and I'm old
Doesn't have the "Who immigrated first" burden of "Native" from a place where everyone was born from people who originated someplace else and more correctly defines it as the first large societies in the region. But awkward to say.
The only people who are still on the fence about the term "Redskins" are Washington fans. IMHO, it's worth pointing out that in 2013 we're still having teenagers line up as the Redskins.
I think the comment was unnecessary on the MGoBoard. This isn't a one-sided story and there's no reason to bring it up, especially in the context of wishing HS kids ill will.
It doesn't add anything to Ace's reporting. It's just vitriol. No matter where you stand on the issue, there's no reason for it.
Agreed. No good can come of it, but it could incite a needless political debate on the board.
The only thing that can trump a "OMG OL DEPTH CHART" debate is an "OMG POLITICS" debate.
Damn Whig Party...