Demetrius Knox de-committed from Texas. I remember hearing that name once or twice. He has a Michigan offer.
Monday Recruitin': Just Pull The Trigger Already Edition
Tick tock, Maurice Ways
MI WR Maurice Ways did get his offer over the weekend. He did not commit, possibly so that he could follow through on a promise to go up to Michigan State's spring game. Ways said a Michigan commitment was a "huge possibility($). Huge!
But Ways did not commit. Why:
“I’ve got a scholarship so it’s a good chance. But my parents were very excited, growing up a Michigan fan, being in the state of Michigan, playing for Michigan football it just seems like the right thing to do.
“But once again I do want to wait my options and not rush into anything and make sure it’s the right fit for me and my family as a football player and as a young man.”
Ways is setting up another Ann Arbor trip. When that occurs I will eat my hat if he doesn't commit. #justpullthetriggeralready
Visitors and such
Westphal is #21
IL CB Parrker Westphal was the headliner. Afterwards he told 247 that "Michigan was still the standard($)" and that he considered committing but decided to hold off until he goes on another couple visits in May. This was his sixth trip to Ann Arbor. If not for Ways, Westphal would be your leading candidate for next commitment. #jptta
BONUS: Westphal came in for a full-on (free) profile from 247. I lol'd:
“When my friends were out partying, I’d be at home studying, doing situps and pushups and go for a run at night,” Westphal said. “I’d try and do what Herschel Walker did. Those 3,500 situps, 1,500 pushups, that dude was a freak. I think he lied about that. That’s hard. You need time to do that.”
AZ TE Mark Andrews visited OSU, told Eleven Warriors some noncommital things about Ohio State, visited Michigan, about which I can find nothing, visited ND, and told 247 some nice things about ND($). With Michigan seemingly days away from its second commitment from a 6'4" wide receiver, Andrews's positional preference probably means this is the last we'll hear about his recruitment:
“I don’t want to be the guy that sits on the line and blocks. I want to be the guys making plays with the ball in his hands,” the No. 62 overall prospect in the line said. “But with how Notre Dame uses the tight end it fits my skill set well. I love Notre Dame’s offense and how they utilize the position.”
Michigan has filled his spot if he's averse to playing TE. Also I can't turn up anything from the Michigan sites on him. Bad sign.
IL TE Ian Bunting was a little more open about his thought process:
"I liked it a lot. They have great people and just a really cool culture there." Bunting wasn't ready to name a leader yet but he did say he was going to sit down and narrow his list in the next couple of days. He wasn't sure if his list was going to be a top 2, 3, or even 5, but he did say Michigan would be on that list regardless of the length.
The M Block's vibe is that Michigan is still behind… someone. The conventional wisdom is that would be Notre Dame. He told Allen Trieu much the same($), saying Michigan was "near the top" and he'd have a shortlist soon. 247 got some more detail($):
"I got to sit down with the coaches and we watched a lot of film," he said. "We didn't just watch film from Michigan games, but also San Diego State games as well. They wanted to show me first hand the transition they are making from where they were when Denard was their quarterback to where they eventually want to get to in using their tight ends. I've played receiver my entire career, but know I will be a tight end at the next level and am ready to work hard and show that I can play on the blocks as well."
Turning Bunting's head is a little more important because of part of this next section.
A guy Michigan does lead for
Rivals's Josh Helmholdt interviewed MO LB Kyron Watson at the St. Louis camp that occurred over the weekend, and Watson flat-out said Michigan was his leader($):
Helmholdt: Is there a team you're really excited about right now?
Watson: Yeah, it's Michigan right now. [coy smile]
Evaluations are all over the place on Watson. He's 100th on ESPN, a 3/4 star borderline guy on Rivals, and a generic three star at the other two places. TCU, Missouri, and Illinois are the main competitors.
IL TE Daniel Helm was at that same event and impressed Helmholdt:
"I think he has the ability to play at an elite level," Helmholdt said. "He is a receiving tight end and won the MVP of the Rivals Underclassman Challenge last year, so we will see what happens."
Helmholdt said that, along with his physical makeup, the 6-foot-5, 220-pound player has a personality that draws others to him.
"First of all, he is a super-nice kid who is shy in the way that even he is impressed that we think he is a four-star player," Helmholdt said. "He is respectful and humble.
"As far as being a prospect, I think he has a lot of upside. Right now he has coat-hangar shoulders, and I could see him easily getting up to 240 or 250 pounds."
Also he is refreshingly honest about his F5-pounding abilities in re: his ranking:
"(I look) more than I should," Helm joked. "That is all I'm going to say."
Helm said he knew he was the No. 201 player in the country, as well as the No. 6 tight end. He added that he wasn't checking the rankings as a motivational tool but a measuring stick.
In an interview similar to the Watson one($) he mentioned that Florida had not actually offered him yet despite their presence in his top four. If that decision does come soon they would not be a factor, leaving just Tennessee and Ole Miss as competition.
Unfortunately, Rivals's Dallas Jackson came away from that camp thinking Tennessee was his leader:
If I had to make one prediction about YOUR FACE it is that is is WRONG sorry sorry be professional… be professional.
We'll see if that's just a one-off thing or not. If you're looking at Helm's unease at waiting and possibly passing up a spot as a good thing for Michigan, Tennessee already has a TE this year and took two last year; Ole Miss took three last year. Options are limited at all of his top schools.
Wouldn't it be nice
ESPN has a feature breaking down the recruitments of their top ten players. Michigan is involved with four: CA CB Adoree' Jackson, VA DE Da'Shawn Hand, VA DT Andrew Brown, and NJ CB Jabrill Peppers. It won't surprise you to find out that ESPN says Michigan leads for Peppers, but they buck the conventional wisdom($) with one Mr. Hand:
Who's in the driver's seat: Michigan
Other candidates: Alabama, Florida and South Carolina
Dark horse: Virginia Tech
Most recent visit: Hand recently took a visit to South Carolina.
What they said: On Michigan defensive coordinator Greg Mattison: "He's always energetic. That dude is insane. I don't know how old he is, but at heart that dude is 21," he said. "We get there and he is listening to Rihanna and Drake, he was dancing and singing. The players said he's really like that, too. That dude is wild."
TomVH says Mattison is Michigan's "secret weapon." If Michigan does manage to snatch Hand away from VT there will be Bud Foster Forever Alone ragecomics.
Virginia is leading for Brown, and Jackson—an Illinois transplant who's only been in California for one year—is completely wide open. HOWEVA, Michigan was mentioned as a team "rising" for Brown at 247 and he told Scout that he plans an M/OSU trip($) "in the near future," presumably after he makes a southern swing through Alabama, Florida, FSU, and Not That USC.
Also in Hand positive vibes, Steve Lorenz says Hand's dad is on board($) with M and that they're even with VT.
Everything's coming up Milhouse
NJ DE/TE Garrett Dickerson has a top five($), and it's an interesting one: Michigan, Alabama, Ohio State, Stanford, and Northwestern. His brother already plays for the Wildcats, if you're playing the One Of These Things Is Not Like The Other game. On Michigan:
“I visited there last year and had a great time, and really enjoyed that atmosphere and the coaches are great. The facilities are great as well.”
Dickerson hasn't been back since that November visit. He also saw OSU around then. He just went to Stanford and Northwestern, and hasn't been to Tuscaloosa at all yet. The nerd schools have to be the favorites, then, until Dickerson finds his way to others in his top five. He had to shoot down some rumors that he committed to Stanford, FWIW.
Scott impresses, says recruiting is a foreign thing
FL WR Artavis Scott may not like talking to reporters about what he's thinking
One of the most impressive athletes out on the field at IMG Academy was Tarpon Springs (Fla.) East Lake wide receiver Artavis Scott. The 5-foot-11, 180-pounder caught upwards of five touchdowns passes on Saturday, showing his ability to run nearly every type route.
"I don't know. I really don't worry about all that stuff right now. I really don't have any standings on any team," said Scott.
His mom likes Florida "but, I don't know, it's whatever I want."
Semi-weekly Damien Harris tweet
2015 KY RB Damien Harris's latest foray into indicating to everyone he would like to go to Michigan:
Me and my bro
@GeorgeCampbell0 need to take a trip to Ann Arbor together soon! #136
Campbell, the massively-touted 2015 teammate of commit Mason Cole and target Artavis Scott, retweeted it. Let's all have a tizzy.
Just got off the phone with Coach Borges. Had a productive conversation! Go Blue!
The suspense is not killing me here. #jptta
Etc.: Michigan offers FL LB Darrion Owens($). Reminder: Tim Sullivan of Rivals confirms that offer to TX RB Vic Enwere I was a little suspicious of was a reporter getting M and MSU mixed up.
2015 stuff: Add the name "Tim Settle" to your radar; the VA DT has local offers and is claiming interest from all three Big Ten heavyweights. MI OL Kyonta Stallworth has offers from… uh, UCLA and Florida($)? Wow? M offers($) IL LB Terry Beckner Jr. M makes top ten($) for CO RB Christian McCaffrey (yes that McCaffrey).
of Demetrius Cox, he plays for MSU
Not to sound rude, but why would be be thinking of him? Cox will be a Soph at MSU this fall, right?
Knox, OTOH, is a current recruit we were after. I'm sure that's who he means.
I told him who he COULD be thinking of, based on that being my 1st thought when I read it. Sorry that you misunderstood that. Don't be so sensitive about me telling someone that they are thinking of cox.
I don't know much about Knox, but from the little I've gathered, I don't think we'll have a great shot.
He originally wanted to be a package deal with a HS teammate of his who is remaining committed to Texas despite Knox decommitting, and Knox has since announced a top 3 of OSU, Miami, and UCLA. I don't think we'll be a big player, but who knows, it's still early on.
Out of all the information in this round up I think I'm most excited about possibly having Ed McCaffrey's son on the team.
Shit. I was hoping he was Fran McCaffrey's son.
and then it all making sense when we figure out it was MSU offering. Intergalactic recruiting isn't going so well
The Anti-MSU Intergalactic Recruiting Meme Cabal is going to crush you.
In typical Sparty fashion, it will have to do its crushing from behind bars because the bad meme police arrested that one a long time ago.
A phone call, a text message, an email, a carrier pigeon.
If you think about it, he can commit in Moe Ways than one...
I'm glad we missed on Mark Andrews. He doesn't want to block? GTFO with that crap and go play dolls or something. You don't think Jeremy Gallon blocks his tail off? Wow, I've literally never heard a football player say those words.
He wants to play WR in college but I think Michigan is looking at him as a TE because of his size and lack of top end speed. I think he meant he didn't want to block on the LOS like a TE but I could be wrong.
catch, pass, punt, kick and tackle. If only he wanted to block........he'd be a prime candidate for Ole #98 /s
It sounds bad, but giving him the benefit of the doubt, he might have just been trying to say that he wants to do a variety of things in the offense and not JUST block. 18-year-olds aren't always the most articulate, and I think it's more likely that he meant that he wanted to catch passes in addition to blocking rather than that he considered himself a diva that was above blocking.
Yeah I can't believe the interviewer didn't ask a follow up. Thats an incredibly shocking thing for a football player to say and not clarify.
But TEs don't just block either, as evidenced by Funchess all year last year and Butt catching a touchdown in the spring game. And WRs block all the time.
I agree with the poster above. I want our recruits saying they'll do whatever the teams needs them to do. I understand not all kids say that, but we don't need to recruit all kids.
Yeah...you're jumping to conclusions.
He's not saying he doesn't want to block. He's saying he doesn't want to be A.J. Williams.
I doubt he's saying that because no one is recruiting him to be AJ Williams. I highly doubt any school recruiting him made that their intention, so I don't see why he'd need to say that.
Right. He wants to be the guy catching passes, though. I'm not saying schools are recruiting him to be A.J. Williams. I'm saying he wants to be Aaron Hernandez, Tyler Eifert, etc.
He's not saying he doesn't ever want to block, just that he wants to be the "new breed" of tight end that is heavily involved in the passing game.
Right, but that's what everyone is recruiting him for, so I don't see why he would need to say it.
He has offers from about 19 schools (and likely more), according to 247 Sports. I'm guessing you don't know what "everyone" is recruiting him for. Perhaps some schools want him to be an in-line tight end; others certainly want to use him as an H-back/move guy like Notre Dame (Eifert). There are probably some schools who don't really utilize positions like that very much.
Regardless, nowhere in his statement did he suggest that he doesn't want to lift a finger to block for his teammates. This discussion is the result of grown men reading too much into what a 17-year-old kid says in an excerpt of an interview.
This is a football player doesn't want to play the position that our coaches want him to. Does that make him a bad football player?
Theres a certain QB I'm sure most of us are familiar with who went to a certain school because the coaching staff were the only ones to offer him a job as a quarterback, as opposed to a corner or wide receiver. He wanted to throw and run, as opposed to tackle and block.
So does that make Denard not a "true football player"?
Hell, another example. I remember Devin stating he hates blocking in the past, and that it was a part of the wide receiver position (yeah, I had completely pushed the fact he played wideout of my mind until now) he would never truly like or get good at.
Does that make Devin not a "true football player" as well?
The kids not even 18. Let him do what he wants to do with his life. He doesn't deserve that kind of scrutiny.
I am completely baffled as to what point you're trying to make and I'm quite sure my point sailed right over you're head too.
You picked two outstanding examples of what a real football players ought to be. Devin and Denard have always done whatever the coaches want without complaint or hesitation - block, tackle, switch positions, etc.... And you would never ever hear those words (I don't want to block) coming out of their mouths.
Like I said above, maybe the interviewer misunderstood or failed to follow up with a question letting him know he would be doing a lot of blocking as a receiver at Michigan? But all I have to judge is this quote that makes Andrews sound like a bit of a prima donna.
What you're saying is totally different. Denard wanted to go to a school that would give him the opportunity to play QB, instead of starting him off at a completely different position. Lots of recruits who can play multiple positions or can play either side of the ball will pick which they like best and base part of their school decision around that. Plus, QBs are just different. If they don't want to throw a block, they don't have to. No other offensive player is excepted from that though,
That is not, however, what is happening here. Michigan and ND (and most every other school) are recruiting this guy as a TE. Sure, different schools use TEs differently, but all TEs and even all receivers do a lot of blocking, and almost all of them throw more blocks than catch balls in any given game.
No one is calling him names or anything, just saying that's not the type of attitude we want in our players, which is fine. I want my WRs/TEs to love to block, because they'll have to do it a lot. Or at the very least acknowledge that it's something they'll have to do a lot and be OK with it. To me, this kid sounds like too much of a prima donna.
Good gravy, this is exactly what he said:
"I don’t want to be the guy that sits on the line and blocks. I want to be the guys making plays with the ball in his hands."
Does Tyler Eifert sit on the line and block? Does Devin Funchess? Does Aaron Hernandez? No, none of them do. They're receiving tight ends who split out wide, move around, play in the slot, etc. They weren't recruited/drafted for their blocking abilities. All he's saying is that he wants to be THAT kind of tight end. That's not prima donna-ish; it's a guy explaining what kind of position he wants to play.
This is honestly such a stupid discussion. Some of you are taking one comment - out of context, I might add - and turning him into some sort of baby just because he says he wants to be the next Aaron Hernandez instead of the next Jim Kleinsasser.
#justpullthetriggeralready I feel that way about all of our offers! Love the quality of recruits Hoke & Co are bringing in.
Am I the only one who can't figure out who the third Big Ten heavyweight is?
I would say Wisconsin, but they're not really a recruiting heavyweight. So maybe Nebraska?
My first thought was PSU, but they've been down lately. Then I thought Wisco, but they're not a "traditional" power or recruiting heavyweight. So probably Nebraska.
I was wondering if he meant Nebraska but I really have no idea either.
Two years ago, it obviously would have been Penn State, but now? My guess is he means MSU because us, OSU, and MSU tend to go after the same recruits, but there are obvious problems with the description.
No way he means MSU.
Nebraska historically should be, Pelini just can't recruit that well with his temper problem.
Calling VT a "dark horse" for Hand is damn silly if you ask me.
I asked a follow up question to TVH on the "dark horse" comment on an ESPN Insider message board because he's the one who wrote that piece on Hand. He basically clarified that VT's not so much a dark horse as they are (in TVH's opinion) the next team besides Michigan most likely to land Hand. In other words, VT is very much in the mix at this point as you would expect, just like every other recruiting service is reporting.
I think the "dark horse" thing was just bad terminology on TVH's part, and that while we're sitting in a good position with Hand we are not leading by a mile, if we're even leading at all.
The dark horse thing comes up in their "blue chip battles" and you can only list a favorite, other teams in the mix and a dark horse. TVH wanted to point out that VT was next in line and that would not have come across if he said they were in the mix with Alabama and South Carolina.
If you haven't yet, check out Kyron Watson's tape. He's my favorite linebacker we're in the mix for in this class, not that my opinion is worth a shit. Kid is just a thumper, I believe James Ross would approve.
fact that you have Ron Swanson as your avatar legitimizes any argument you make. Don't sell yourself short.
Pretty sure you misread the 247 post on Westphal... this is a direct quote from the post you linked: "I did not consider a commitment this weekend and I don't feel ready for a commitment in general right now."
When did he say that? Was it an article or a tweet? Just lookin to read the good news myself. And (question for the general board) is there a guy in the 2015 class who already has the top spot locked up a la Hand, Nkemdiche, Clowney?
Hand does not have that locked up, in fact he's not even the top recruit in all of th rankings. I think he's the consensus top player, but not unanimous like the other guys.
Sorry, what I meant was he was being talked about as probably the best in the country early in high school, like the other two guys. He was obviously overtaken in some people's eyes.
Hand doesn't have the top spot locked up. Leonard Fournette is up there, too.
I think in the chat yesterday.
Ways looks so much like Roundtree and I am so okay with that
Sorry, but Tree has that sleepy/happy look... not saying he is high, he just looks like it.
I think Ace may have a little bit more perspective when writing these things. Brian's recruiting write ups are leaving me way too warm and fuzy inside...