Apparently, RivalsMike is saying Roseboro is an NC St lean at this point. Is he just trolling Michigan fans, or is there something to this?
Monday Recruitin' Hits The Field
It's Football Season
As we prepare for Michigan's opener, high school football is already underway in several states, which means less recruiting news and more useful scouting information as prospects turn their focus back to the field.
2015 LB commit Darrin Kirkland Jr. earned the top grade of any player Josh Helmholdt saw in two games scouting Indiana prospects, as he turned in a four-TFL performance in his squad's seven-point loss to open the season ($):
Performance: Kirkland got off to a strong start in his 2014 campaign, registering four tackles for loss among his 12 total tackles. The Rivals250 prospect was lined up at middle linebacker, but was making plays sideline-to-sideline. He was at his best, though, when he was playing downhill, filling holes and coming off the edge to make plays in the backfield. Kirkland overran a few plays in the flats, but also made several impressive open field tackles on running backs trying to get the edge and made it difficult for Avon's offense to scheme around him.
Scout's Brian Dohn caught 2015 OL commit Jon Runyan Jr. and his St. Joseph's Prep squad scrimmage against Philadelphia Imhotep ($):
Jon Runyan, OL, 6-4, 291
Skinny: Runyan, who is committed to Michigan, plays left tackle and was markedly bigger. He put on 20-plus and now has the strength needed to be dominant this season. He fired off the ball and did a nice job of getting his hands onto the defensive lineman, but he wasn’t as active as he was when in the midst of the grind of the season. He was [solid], but not overwhelming. When he was able to engage the defensive player, Runyan did a good job of finishing the block.
At 6'4", 291, Runyan very much has the look of a future guard.
[After THE JUMP: Michigan's strong presence on the Freep's top 25 list of in-state players, updates on several 2016 prospects, and more.]
Now THERE'S An Idea
The Freep's Mick McCabe released his annual top 25 list of Michigan high school football players, and 2015 ATH commit Brian Cole earned the top spot and his own feature. Can we get this kid on campus right now?
In addition to the three spots on offense [QB/RB/WR], Cole is a terrific free safety, earning a spot on last year’s Free Press All-State Dream Team as a defensive back. He also returns punts and kickoffs.
The toughest question for Heritage coach Don Maloney is: Which is Cole’s best position?
“He’s been best at all of them,” Maloney said. “Truthfully, he’s just such an explosive playmaking kid it doesn’t matter where I put him. I could put him at right guard and he would still make plays because he’s a strong, talented kid. I moved him to running back last year to get the ball in his hands more on a consistent basis, and there’s some highlight-reel plays he made in large part by himself.”
The rest of the list very much flies in the face of McCabe's reputation on Michigan boards as a Spartan homer. Here are some notable rankings:
- Wisconsin OL commit David Moorman at #2
- Michigan RB commit Mike Weber at #3
- Michigan QB commit Alex Malzone at #4
- MSU LB commit Tyriq Thompson at #5
- MSU ATH commit Khari Willis at #6
- OSU DE commit Josh Alabi at #7
- MSU OL commit Kyonta Stallworth at #8
- MSU ATH commit Tyson Smith at #13
That's as low as I've seen Stallworth ranked among in-state prospects, though it's worth keeping in mind that this is a list of the top current high school players, not best college prospects.
2016 Updates: Harding, Bredeson, Walker, Hill
The Wolverine's Brandon Brown caught up with 2016 Eastern Christian Academy four-star LB Dele' Harding, who said that the presence of former HS teammates Freddy Canteen and Brandon Watson will help Michigan's cause in his recruitment ($):
"Yeah, I believe having Freddy and Brandon up there will help Michigan," he said. "At the end of the day I just want to go to a college where I'm welcomed in with open arms and feels like a family.
"I want to have an impact on the program. I want a place that can support me academically and put me in a place where I can be successful if football doesn't work out. Michigan is a great school and they've been really good with our players. As far as Brandon and Freddy being there, it will definitely be a plus in my decision."
Harding mentioned Ohio State, UCLA, Texas A&M, Baylor, and Oregon as other schools standing out to him; while he won't make a decision until next summer, he said that Michigan will be a major factor until the end.
Scout's Allen Trieu talked visit plans with 2016 four-star WI OT Ben Bredeson:
As far as unofficial visits for the Fall, the school and football schedule will affect travel, but Bredeson does have his eye on several games and schools.
"For sure the Notre Dame-Michigan game, I just scheduled that one. I'm going to try to get out to some Badger games, possibly Penn State-Michigan and we'll see from there. I'm still working it out to see where I can go."
Trieu also spoke with Ben's older brother, Jack Bredeson, who plays defensive end on their high school team but will head to Michigan next year as a baseball commit. It's pretty clear he'd like to continue being teammates with his brother at the college level:
Younger brother Ben has a Michigan scholarship offer for football, and the thought of getting to attend college with his sibling is an enticing one.
"It would be like home for us. We're pretty close. It would be pretty cool to stay down the street or even in the same house. It would be pretty special, especially for our parents. It would be a dream."
That said, Jack stated that he's not putting any pressure on his younger brother; he'd like him to make his own decision.
Five-star 2016 NJ RB Kareem Walker told Scout's Brian Dohn that he "felt real comfortable at Ohio State and Michigan," after recent visits to both schools ($).
247's Steve Lorenz reports that four-star Cass Tech DB Lavert Hill will visit for the Appalachian State game; that'll be his fourth trip to Ann Arbor in the last month.
The Wolverine's Tim Sullivan relayed a quote from 2018(!) Gilman (MD) CB Taron Vincent, son of former NFL All-Pro CB Troy Vincent, in which he said he holds a Michigan offer ($). No other outlet has reported the offer, and Lorenz said in a board post that U-M hasn't sent out any 2018 offers. Vincent is almost certainly on Michigan's radar—especially since they have a solid relationship with his head coach at Gilman, Biff Poggi, aka Henry Poggi's father—but it's too early for them to be putting out offers to prospects who have yet to play in high school.
Happy trails to four-star 2015 TN LB Josh McMillon, who committed to Alabama on Friday as expected. He is, however, expected to take an official visit to Michigan this fall anyway.
The Guys at 247 are confident that Michigan leads for Roseboro FWIW.
...another Scout writer told him Roseboro didn't make a planned visit to NC State yesterday ($).
I've heard info myself that strongly suggests Roseboro will choose Michigan, as well.
Webb issued one of his famous "gut feelings" about Roseboro a couple of weeks ago, but he did mention yesterday morning the rumors about NC State. He didn't change his prediction, but it was clear that it wasn't as confident as his original gut feeling.
It's my understanding that Sam's gut feelings are essentially the result of a recruit making it clear privately to him that he's going to choose Michigan. The problem is that kids can and do change their minds as the decision day gets closer. I'm always a little bit skeptical when it comes to kids from the South, but Webb's "gut feelings" have been very reliable. While there were plenty of people who were confidently predicting Hand would end up here, Webb never came close to a gut feeling for Hand, and during the last 2-3 weeks of the recruiting process for him he was saying that Alabama was going to be the choice if Hand's decision was determined by pure football reasons.
Come on man, that's not what he said at all if you are referring to his twitter comment.
I can't embed since I'm at work, but Farrell said he's getting a NC St. feeling early in the week but that is NOT his pick just yet. Did not mention Roseboro being a lean nor that he actually felt that's where he'll pick.
I did not get that comment from twitter. I do not follow him. A buddy of mine sent me a text saying that RivalsMike is hearing Roseboro is an NC St lean. If that's not what he said, then I apologize.
Please continue posting your third-hand info as fact.
Please continue being an asshole because nowhere in my posts did I indicate that Roseboro to NC St was a 100% fact.
You certainly suggested that it was a fact that Mike Farrell was saying that Roseboro is an NC St lean, which he didn't say, and you implied that you heard (or saw) this yourself, when it's just your buddy's interpretation of what he heard or read.
There's a difference between me saying "Mike Farrell stated in an article he wrote that X" and "I heard from a buddy something about Mike Farrell and X" right? That's all I'm saying. No need to name call. There's a certain level of etiquette here, and it doesn't make me an asshole for expecting it.
Usually, if someone asks "is there something to this?", they're not posting it as fact.
I didn't suggest he reported the rumor as fact, I suggested he reported Mike Farrell's comment as fact. Looking back at his comment I still feel that way.
Youre right, I couldve worded it better, but either way, there was some sort of implication from a recruiting analyst that Roseboro might not pick Michigan. That's all I was trying to say. Your first post had a bit of a condescending tone to it, hence the asshole comment, which I still feel is accurate. Lol.
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There is nothing to this. HaHa
I think the reason why RIvalsMike mentions NC St. is that recently Roseboro's dad has some concerns about Michigan being too far away to drive.
Not according to Roseboro himself - http://mgoblog.com/content/friday-recruitin-checks-frequent-flyer-miles
That was from 8/8.
The information about his Dad being concerned with the distance was posted on 8/22 on rivals. That is probably why some Rivals analysts think NC State is gaining some momentum towards the end of his recruitment.
Kirkland looks like a monster in the making.
Rivals still lists Runyan at 250lbs. At 291 lbs it looks like he's really packed on some size.
Those (Jack) Brederson quotes are a good sign; 'no pressure but as your brother and best friend I'd really like to spend the next four years with you'.
Yeah - that's how I'd handle it. "Ben, go whenever you think is best. But if we both went to Michigan, HOW AWESOME WOULD THAT BE RIGHT?!?!?"
so many activities!
Back awile ago, we were trying to flip Preston Williams, a Tennessee commit, top 100 wide receiver who was looking around for something better, is that over or are we still in the mix?
Michigan probably stopped looking at receivers once Cole committed.
Other more important needs.
I have never been through the process of being recruited to play football, so I don't really understand what happens, but I am constantly amazed to read when recruits mention both Michigan and Ohio State as places where they feel "real comfortable." I can understand a recruit picking Ohio State for any number of reasons, but from all I see and read, it just seems as if the experience at the schools would be quite a bit different, and it would be hard to feel equally "comfortable" both places.
It's probably just based on your experience as a fan of one of the schools that you view them to be so different from each other. Both are well funded, big time traditional college football programs with top notch facilities. I think the experience for the recruit/player is likely very similar. Probably the same for ND/PSU.
"feelings" of a 17-year old who just received praise and attention from a bunch of powerful adults with both groups telling the kid about the perfect fit with their O or D.
But imagine the version of both schools that's shown to top football recruits. They see top-notch facilities, smart coaching staffs, great academic support, and an array of cool academic programs that are way above what's available at their high school, and they get to meet a bunch of football players who, despite being relatively "famous," are interested in the same things they're interested in by virtue of being guys in the same age range. It makes sense that they'd feel "comfortable" at both schools, since the differences are mostly beneath the surface.
So, he committed to Alabama but is still going to take an official to Michigan. Does that mean he's not really committed? Or does that mean he's just in it for the free trip?
That's probably a good idea, better than having Saban find him a job at Home Depot..
means different things in different places. I would imagine in this case that he's 90% committed to Alabama, and will only consider Michigan if we really knock his socks off or if something goes wrong with Alabama. Cue "so you're saying there's a chance..."
You could be right in what you wrote but I think it is more about saving his spot in the class more... I think 247 forum stated the same thing where he is reserving his spot and that he is pretty certain he wants to go to Alabama