I'm struggling to think of battles that State won over Michigan AND Ohio State. Lawrence Thomas, Will Gholston, and...
fair point that
The annual Sound Mind, Sound Body camp was over the weekend, and the thing is getting too huge to contain. Since SMSB is a non-profit, coaches can attend by donating their time. That's a rare opportunity—a unique one, as far as I know—and thus both coaches and prospects descend on it in droves. This year there were 800-some kids, including delegations from California, Minnesota, etc. It's big.
State and Michigan sent their entire staffs, Glenville brought 50 kids and scrimmaged Cass Tech in 7-on-7 afterwards, Ohio State deigned to send Vrabel and that lunatic from Cincinnati who can't seem to recruit anyone from Cincinnati, etc. It has blown up.
I would like to see Drue Tranquill's bandana collection.
At this point Michigan is mostly on the lookout for 2015 kids, but there are a few wobbly spots in the class still, like safety, and one of the breakout players was IN S Drue Tranquill, a 6'2" LB/S who had MAC offers before the camp. He's now got a couple of low-level Big Ten offers (Indiana, Minnesota) and will be a guy to watch if he camps at Michigan, which he plans on doing. Sam Webb on Tranquill($):
No player’s stock rose more than Tranquill’s on day one. The 6-2, 208-pounder came out of nowhere to emerge as a viable football prospect in recent months after initially fancying himself more of a baseball prospect. Tranqill pairs 4.49 speed with impressive lateral quickness. There were only a few occasions where receivers got the best of him on the day (one just happened to be Maurice Ways on a crossing route)… but even when he was beaten he was only inches from making a play.
He told Josh Helmholdt that both the Michigan and Ohio State coaches were hot after him. Helmholdt, meanwhile, named him the top guy there, period:
Many teams are trying to fit the 6-foot-2, 205-pound Tranquill in at linebacker, but he showed he can definitely play safety with outstanding footwork, fluidity, speed and instincts in coverage.
An offer will likely depend on if Michigan thinks he can play safety… or maybe nickel. A couple of schools from the Ohio State defensive tree (like, say, Ohio State) are recruiting him for "star" linebacker, which is their fancypants equivalent. Since Michigan's camp is going on right now, we won't have to wait long to see.
MI WR commit Mo Ways came out, which is an unusual thing:
Ways has not been real active on the camp scene this offseason, but the SMSB Camp gave us another chance to evaluate the relatively new-to-the-game wide receiver and his progression is coming along nicely. The top defensive backs at the camp wanted to take on the Michigan commit, and he handled them with relative ease, getting open and making easy catches.
Michigan receiver commit Maurice Ways looks ready to suit up for the Wolverines in this year’s season opener. Standing in at 6-foot-4, 197-pounds, the Detroit (Mich.) Country Day standout was a late edition to the camp, and was physical nightmare for cornerbacks trying to check him.
Meanwhile, Ways is making projections about the third WR spot in the class:
“If I could say myself, it would be Artavis Scott,” Ways said. “… If everything goes well then Tay Scott will be the third receiver.”
Other interesting names:
SMSB also provided some kids the opportunity to take unofficials to Michigan, including touted 2015 MN DE Jashon Cornell:
A man with taste in numbers.
ND signee James Onwualu does not approve.
@Jay_Rock16 That makes me wanna throw up hahaha
— James Onwualu (@J_Walls) June 15, 2013
Afterward, Cornell sounded pumped up about Michigan($), calling Michigan's facilities "one of the best things I've ever seen." Notre Dame is an early favorite for anyone from Cretin-Derham Hall, so we'll see if Cornell wants to break the mold.
IL OL Jamarco Jones made his planned visits over the weekend, and will decide in a little under two weeks. His OSU visit is going on right now.
Jones remains as inscrutable as ever, but I feel a little bit better after he told Scout's Beth Long that he wasn't sweating two-deeps despite being highly encouraged to do so:
Depth doesn't matter too much, 'cause wherever I go I'm going to compete for a spot regardless. Coaches talk about that a lot but I don't pay too much attention to that. Nothing is guaranteed.
I think we can agree that Michigan is not the school bringing up depth charts. On the other hand, Jones's MSU visit coincided with a one-day camp at Michigan State and this is quite a quote fight($). On M:
"What stood out was how genuine the coaches are and how much they care about you as a person."
"I really felt like I was part of their family and team already. It was fun just seeing all the players I could potentially be playing with next year and how we all are similar and have the same goals."
I dunno. It's hard to believe that Jones will pick Michigan State if only because the last out-of-state guy to pick State over Michigan was during the Time of Troubles, when there were a few.
Last week, MI DT Malik McDowell fessed up that he liked Michigan, probably. This week, he says that ain't true($):
Another hot rumor coming out of McDowell’s appearance in Chicago last weekend revolves around his college recruitment. Holding offers from the likes of Alabama,LSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, among others, it was reported that McDowell named the Wolverines his favorite.
When asked about it Thursday, McDowell smiled, quietly saying, “no (that’s not true)"
Mmm quote that is 3/4ths in brackets. Meanwhile that "rumor" was a direct quote, one that came after erratic but consistent declarations that Michigan was maybe sort of out front. Weird recruitment. McDowell seems to want to commit to Michigan but someone in his camp is trying to get him to string it out as long as possible without indicating so much as a leader.
This week, MI DT Malik McDowell attended the SMSB camp and seemed mostly interested($) in the local Big Two:
“Michigan and Ohio State, those are the two that I talked to that I was going to talk to when I got here,” McDowell said.
And in particular one of the Big Two:
McDowell has visited the Wolverines campus several times in the past and looks forward to getting back to Ann Arbor this summer.
“They still haven’t slowed down any recruiting,” McDowell said. “They’re recruiting me just as hard as they did in the beginning.”
The 6-foot-7, 290-pound McDowell added that he’s noticed Michigan’s No. 3 ranked recruiting class led by Jabrill Peppers and Drake Harris.
“That’s real nice,” McDowell said. “Would be a nice little team there.”
McDowell has not been to OSU yet but tentatively has a July visit scheduled. After discussing the local big two, McDowell quickly added that he'd like "to explore all [his] options" by visiting Florida, FSU, and USC.
Two of the three linebackers listed in the last recruiting roundup have released top fives. MO LB Jimmie Swain's consists of Michigan, MSU, Oregon, Stanford, and TCU; FL LB Darrion Owens is down to($) Michigan, Ohio State, Auburn, Georgia, and Miami.
24/7's Gerry Hamilton says Georgia "is thought to be in a very good position" after Owens camped in Athens. Need to get Owens on campus to do anything about that.
Swain is a guy Michigan is in totally random spot for. His only visit so far was to TCU. He'll take officials, it seems. So State's out, but everyone else is in play.
Tranquill on his Minnesota offer($):
“I’ve done my research and they’re a good engineering school and one of the best public universities in the country,” Tranquill said. “The Mall Of America is there. The coaches were throwing that at my mom."
This has been your moment of zen.
Happy trails to MD OL Damian Prince, who says it was tough to leave Michigan out of his top ten($) but dang-diddly-did it anyway.
Not quite a happy trails to AZ WR Jalen Brown, but yeah pretty much:
It was different at Michigan," Brown said. "They didn't show that they needed me too much. It was more about me being a valuable player. They seem pretty set at receiver. With Michigan State, they kind of showed that they needed me there. It was more being honest with how they see me and what they are trying to do. They have really good people there, and they were trying to show that to me."
Michigan is definitely taking a third wideout in this class, so for the coaches to tell a top prospect like Brown that they're "set at receiver" implies a great deal of confidence in someone.
UT DT commit Bryan Mone is trying to graduate early, which would make him early enrollee #5 along with Michael Ferns, Wilton Speight, Mason Cole, and Drake Harris.
2015 Cass Tech DT Joshua Alabi tells Josh Helmholdt($) that he is "definitely" most comfortable with Michigan State's coaches. He does have M and OSU offers; we'll see if that lasts.
FL RB Jacques Patrick is almost certainly not going to end up at M for reasons of Mikey Weber, Damien Harris, and strong interest in Patrick from the home state schools, but if you want details on his recruitment he talked to Eleven Warriors in two parts.
There is another: Delano Hill's younger brother LaVert Hill is a 2016 Cass DB who showed well($) at SMSB.
I'm struggling to think of battles that State won over Michigan AND Ohio State. Lawrence Thomas, Will Gholston, and...
Michigan backed off Burbridge given the iffiness of his ability to meet enrollment standards. In the end, he would've but by the time that was true, he was already committed to Sparty. Prior to that he was a Michigan lean.
sparty got a good one in Burbridge. I wanted us to get the Farmington Hills Harrison big 3 a couple years ago. I am more than happy with Ojemudia and Funch Bunch though. From a sparty pipeline no less.
Would love Jones. But quote-wise, sounds like Staee is definitely in the hunt, and just like Ohio, they have a glaring need on the offensive line. I think Staee has a better shot than we do, since several of his Core6 teammates have committed already.
okay, what does "Staee" mean? i've seen it several times and now i finally have to ask.
Here is Brian starting it off
A car in Ann Arbor was graffiti'd during an MSU game weekend a few years ago:
Spelling is a graduate course in East Lansing
I wonder if Dantonio's trying to step it up on the recruiting trail. Seems to be a theme of players impressed with state and the comfortability/family feel today.
I feel like I've seen a lot of guys say that (David Dawson I think) who then end up committing elsewhere
I'm pretty sure that words similar to those came out of Drake Harris' mouth at some point, right before the ones where he pointed out that Sparty wasn't a championship caliber program.
Glad to see there was no drama at the camp between coaches.
I can't tell if he's being coy about his affection for Michigan or if he's kind of suggesting he's seriously looking elsewhere without rocking the boat too much
I'm leaning towards the second. I think it's more likely we get Hand and Jackson than McDowell and Westphal. I actually don't think we will land either McDowell or Westphal. Maybe McDowell doesn't like the depth chart? I know, I sounded like a buckeye there... I think we'll have a great class regardless...
I think McDowell is just trying to keep his cards close to the vest, but will end up at Michigan. If I was going to visit several other schools, I would not want to be known as a lean towards any school.
A fair deduction on your part. Not sure why my dissenting opinion would be negged. But I do remember the constant negging of guys who felt that Michigan wasn't a good fit for Treadwell, so I guess this could fall in line with that.
I just feel like this guy is kind of cool on Michigan. More often than not, guys who seem like locks but do not commit are looking elsewhere. Some find a better place to land, and others don't. I would not be surprised to see McDowell suiting up for someone else. I hope I'm wrong...
Brian's comment about some in McDowell's camp wants him to explore his options gave me uncomfortablt flashbacks to the Zettel commitment. Highly rated in-state guy that the stars seemed to align for, but the constant whispers in his ear to go somewhere else tipped the scales in another direction. However, Zettel was always pretty open about Michigan not really being an option whereas McDowell is definitely keeping the door open, so I am hopefully wrong.
Never got the negging of the Treadwell naysayers either.
This is MGoBlog. People here will neg something if they simply don't want to see it. I kind of make it a point to read all negged posts because often the negged content is far more mature and insightful than the attempt to censor it.
As for Malik, this is pure speculation on my part but it sounds like he's a decent chap unfortunately being advised by a self-proclaimed expert (possibly a relative or a coach, I dunno) on how to "game" the system. Except in Michigan's case there's no system to game because Hoke is for real, so the "expert" is probably someone who doesn't have too much info on how the visit went, or cares for that matter. He (not Malik, this unknown factor) is probably thinking Hoke's "folksy" image is just a mask and that if Malik drags out the process long enough there's a red carpet or free BMW tucked away somewhere in Michigan's storage shed for "please please pretty please" situations. So every time poor Malik tries to follow his heart and speak openly about wanting to attend Michigan the "expert" forces him to issue a retraction.
I'll admit I'm speculating a LOT, but to me it's a real simple explanation for the mixed messages -- the positive messages are Malik's, and the retractions are someone else's. If not for this unknown twit, Malik might've committed already. High schoolers are pretty impressionable people, they'll invariably get some bad advice from time to time and honestly it is a bit hard to believe Hoke is as genuine as people say he is if you're a 21st century cynic and never met the guy. Recruiting corruption is downright out of control at some schools, so honestly I'm surprised most recruits don't treat Hoke's program as a facade. Maybe that's just as much a testament to his recruiting prowess as anything else.
And just now from TomVH, it looks like Moe Ways (than one) earned his 4th star from ESPN.
and there goes the last eligible commit for 2014's sleeper of the year. What has the world come to?
Don't we have that gray shirt? New sleeper?
Yes, by default, Brady Pallante is the only potential sleeper. Problem is that this class will likely fill up and he'll be considered a 2015 commit who enrolls early.
Guess 2014 will be a Sleepless in Ann Arbor recruiting class.
Whoa! "MI WR commit Mo Ways came out, which is an unusual thing:"
Good for him, I mean - it is 2013.. and then I was like,
"Ways has not been real active on the camp scene this offseason, but the SMSB Camp gave us another chance to evaluate the relatively new-to-the-game wide receiver and his progression is coming along nicely."
Michigan only takes nouns, not adjectives.
Nouns and present participles. /Channing Stribling'd
before you can start upping comments? That's a +1 right there.
is an adjective.
(picture of marijuana)
Collard Greens counts.
Brandon needs to get on the phone to Al Taubman and get Briarwood embiggened stat.
I'd like to see Swain or Furbush round out the LBs for this class.
i would rather have owens or another guy that is more of an athlete / WILL type.
Michigan wants to keep a close eye on depending on how the recruiting goes for our last two DB spots. I'd love to see him potentially as a big-hitting safety here.
I'm REALLY hoping Tay Scott becomes part of this class. Having him plus Ways, Harris, and Bunting would be a fantastic haul of receivers.
Explain the officials and unofficial recruiting visits and rules in one of your posts sometime?
I believe that recruits only get 5 officials and can only do them in their senior year, and the school is able to pay for the recruit to come out and stay, but it appears that a lot of recruits miss out because of the early recruiting timeline. I wish that they could start after NSD so that recruits had a full year to schedule the 5 trips.
Also, is the michigan camp something that is invite only? Who pays for the costs of the camps.
I second that request.
Unofficial visits are unlimited. You can have up to 5 official visits, but those can only be taken during a student-athlete's senior year. The school pays for the player and one other person (mom, dad, older brother, uncle, coach, etc.) to fly in and lodge on campus.
Any high schooler can sign up for Michigan's camp. I haven't looked at their brochure this year, but I have looked at brochures for SEC and other Big Ten schools' camps a few weeks ago for one of our players, and cost of the camp would probably be in the neighborhood of $300 (depending on how many days the kid plans to stay). It's not cheap.
But no good deed goes unpunished. Here are some more questions
When does the senior year start? Is it the completion of the junior year or start of the senior school year? This seems problematic for scheduling visits as most would have to wait until November or December for visits
Can you receive scholarships to camps? I can't imagine having to cover camp costs and travel for all the camps some of the elite kids attend.
I believe the "senior year" starts with the first NCAA contest of the student's senior school year. So if the first NCAA football game is on August 27, then 2014 kids can start taking official visits on that date.
AFAIK, students cannot receive scholarships to camps from the universities themselves. However, I believe high school booster groups can provide financial assistance for their athletes to attend camps. I think that's one reason why Ted Ginn (from Cleveland Glenville) has made a big name for himself, because he has taken large groups of his players on a bus to some of these camps. Somebody can correct me on that if I'm mistaken.
McDowell is a quiet kid. He reportedly was close to committing upon first receiving his Michigan offer (I want to say spring 2012?) but his dad wanted him to take his time, which is fine.
Then ND emerged as a contender... and just as quickly disappeared. Seems like a Midwestern battle but his interest in the two Florida schools could be legit.
With all the expectations for the this class, I think the BBQ at the Big House will very interesting this year.
If Hand makes it out for the BBQ, I think Brian needs to shell out more $ for bandwidth with all the F5's that will be clicked all weekend. That and renegotiate his banner-ad contracts.
Artavious Scott, and George Campbell 2015 WR, are already two marquee names that are supposed to attend...
I think McDowell has strung this on too long for me to be confident he ends up at Michigan. I could see one of the SEC powers rolling out the red carpet late in the process and stealing him, very similar to how it ended up with Treadwell last year.
And it's only June. It's a crazy world when you are dragging your feet if you don't commit by March.
He's been a Michigan "Lean" for over a year, rumors of him wanting to commit but his dad not letting him have persisted. Yes there's over 6 months till signing day but IMO he's dragging his feet to see some elite schools down South and he eventually ends up there.
if he had already committed. I don't think he has had the chance to visit most of the schools on his list, so it's hardly late in the process.. .
You know the coaches are recruiting well when I'm mildly shocked by the comment about Joshua Alabi saying he is most comfortable with Michigan State's coaches.
Is that even possible? Did he sit down with Hoke and Mattison yet? Can this be real?