Monday Presser 10-27-14: Brady Hoke Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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News bullets and other items:

  • Desmond Morgan will be redshirted, allowing him to return next season as fifth-year senior
  • Jabrill Peppers was removed from the depth chart and will not “travel” with the team, but has not been ruled out for the season
  • The stake thing, according to Hoke, was not meant to disrespect anyone. Hoke called Dantonio to apologize for it.
  • Devin Gardner will start against Indiana
  • The team’s goals are still out there (because the new goal is to take it one game at a time and beat Indiana)

Opening remarks:

“Thanks for coming. Obviously we’re very disappointed in the outcome and the results last week. We came in as a team yesterday. We looked at it. We were critical constructively with each other about what we need to do. The opportunities that we had, because there were plenty of opportunities to make some plays on both sides and that's something that we weren’t very – executing the consistency with it, we need to be better. There's always a great emotion in a rivalry game. I think that always happens and we’re excited about the opportunity to have those rivalry games but win or lose you've got to move forward from them, and I think that's an important part for us with Indiana coming here for homecoming, with Tevin Coleman coming here as the leading rusher in the country. We have to play a lot better against the run defensively than we did the other day. One injury update: Desmond Morgan we're going to redshirt this year and then he'd be back as a fifth-year senior next year.


When you talk about consistency, you seem to hit a lot of the same themes each week. Is there something about the message to your team that isn't getting through?
“Well, I… one of the big things this week, which was a little different, was that we had seven drops and we haven't done that. We've caught the ball decently. When you look at it, and as you look at it as coaches, we're pretty much consistent on what is a drop and what's not but we had some opportunities. You move the chains, you have an opportunity to keep the flow going better. You also if you execute in those things you have a chance to change the mindset a little bit of how a guy calls defenses against you, and so those are the execution things that we've been pretty good [with]. Did we run the ball well enough? No. The offensive line was good enough, though, if we execute in some other areas.

 

On Saturday night you said you were going to think about what was going to happen with the starting quarterback. Have you made a determination there?
“Yeah, Devin will be our starter. I mean, Devin had some good throws the other day. Some of them we've got to come down with. And on the shovel pass, Justice gets knocked off. It's a timing play and so it looks like he flipped it to the linebacker, which is actually what happened, but we get knocked off on the shovel and so the timing of that. We've got to be better mechanically when we had the fumble. You get a fumble and then you fumble it right back. It was an opportunity that we had. But no, he'll be the starter.”


Talk about the run defense and what specifically has to get better team like Indiana that’s running the ball really well.

Well, first let's go back so last week. Not that I don't want to talk about Indiana, but we've got to do a better job at the point of attack, and that was a disappointing thing. There were some double teams that we've got to hold on to a little better so the linebackers can run. At the same point, we missed some tackles and opportunities there, so from that standpoint we need to play a lot better and the same thing for Indiana. Block schemes are block schemes and we've got to do a better job of playing those.

[After THE JUMP: I’m askin’ bout practice]

Can you just kind of set the tone for what was said to the team about the stake incident Saturday and last night and if there will be any disciplinary action and how-

“No, there won’t be any disciplinary action.”

-and how you felt strongly about reaching out to Mark Dantonio?
“Well, Mark and I have known each other for a long time so me calling him and apologizing for something that really was overblown and had nothing to do with Michigan State- It had to do with commitment and staking a commitment for our football team.”
Do you talk to your team about making decisions like that?
“Yeah, you always do. Believe me, no one feels worse than Joe. And that wasn't the intent.”

Can you go over that sequence again at the end with Devin and Shane? Was it Nuss that put him in?

“We had talked about getting him ready to go in depending on the situation and Shane, we told him, ' Get ready, get warmed up.' Well, we get the turnover and Shane comes in. Well, depending on the situation we were going to let Devin finish the game, and part of that was you got the turnover and so Shane goes in. We wanted Devin. This is the last time he's going to play Michigan State. He's a Michigan kid and it was important for him to finish.”


Why did you fee like you had to issue a public apology?

“Well, I think number one to Mark and his team as much as anything because like I said, Mark and I go back a long, long way so that's pretty much it.”

Were you told to issue an apology?

“No, no.”
Just on your own you decided to?

“Yeah, because Mark and I have done this in the past. We've called and, you know – when we've had some incidents in this game but that's the way we are because we have respect for each other.”
You said just a little while ago that the whole thing was overblown-

“I do think it was. “

But you felt compelled-

“Yes I did.”

Execution of the stake thing aside, does that prove that Joe Bolden takes this game seriously?

“I think we all take it seriously, and I think it was all last week our guys heard, ‘Well, you don't seem mad. You don't seem ready. You don't seem angry.’ That's all they heard.
Well, my point is emotionally our guys understand what this game is all about.”

Mark after the game on Saturday said that the stake was just a small example of the disrespect and the things that have built up from the programs over the past decades, I guess. Do you see where he’s coming from with the disrespect or arrogance that those players talk about with Michigan’s program?

“No.”

 

He [Dantonio] had said also that it wasn’t the coaching, it was the program.

“That’s alright. Look, he’s the head coach at Michigan State.”

But he said nothing about you.

“That’s fine.”

But the program overall…

“That’s fine.” 

Jabrill Peppers is another guy who was taken off the depth chart this week. Is there a reason for that?

“Well, he’s still battling some things and we'll see where it ends up. If he was out then I would have lumped him in with Desmond.”

Is there a reason he’s off the depth chart this week as opposed to-

“Well, he won't travel this week.”

In terms of the Indiana game, do you promote it just as Michigan-Indiana or is there kind of a backs-against-the-wall feeling in terms of making a bowl that you talk about?

“Well, and that's a good question, but we have not talked about making a bowl or not making a bowl. We have talked about this being homecoming. We have talked about, as a team, staying together [and] in the way they came in yesterday, the way they went through the day and all– I think there's a huge commitment from our football team to each other and accountability, so for us this is the next game and we've got to get ready for the next game.”

What kind of a transition is it going to be between Michigan State stylistically and Indiana?

“Yeah, and I think the hard part to figure out a little bit is they've had a week off. They've had obviously unfortunately Sudfeld getting hurt. They've had some quarterback – Covington getting hurt– some quarterback things that I know Kevin, he's a daggone good coach, good offensive coach, is figuring out so when you're getting ready defensively you're trying to figure out how are they going to play the game. Not from a schematic standpoint or a lot of those things but who are their playmakers. What will they be comfortable [doing] with the young quarterback in the football game?”

Overblown or not, whatever, but the stake, the concussion thing, all [are] things that have gone on that creates an appearance that you’re not in firm control of things going on around the program. Is that a fair assessment? I’m not asking if you agree, but I’m asking if that’s a fair assessment that there are some things that have slipped through your grasp here.

“Well, no, because number one I'm not the doctor or the head medical person who has anything to do with injuries and concussions and who's on the field. Do I regret, does Joe [Bolden] regret, the excitement and the emotion? I don't regret him having excitement and emotion about him going to play a football game with a bunch of guys that he's practiced with for two years.”
Did you know they were going to take the spike out onto the field?

“Well, it was in our locker room as something that happened on Friday night and did I know? Yeah, late I knew. And I'll take the accountability for it too. I mean, that's my responsibility.”


You guys said you haven’t talked about a bowl. What would you say are the team’s goals at this point?

“Beat Indiana. That sounds like a good one.”
But overall, the rest of the season?

“Well, let's take one of them at a time. And that's what we’ve talked about.”

Given all the speculation around your status as the head coach here, have you recevied any kind of assurance from anyone in a leadership position, be it the president or be it Dave [Brandon], that there will not be any change made this year?

“To be honest with you, anytime we've ever talked, I think those things will be talked [about] at the end of the season. Have I talked to anybody about those things? No. I don't worry myself about those things. I'm confident in what we're doing and I know what we’re doing for 115 kids. Every day I know that. That's as important as anything to me. I feel bad and I do get angry, we had this discussion the other night, because they work so hard we've got to get over the hump and execute and have consistency as a team. But the work ethic these guys have put in… I couldn't ask for more.”


With that, how hard is it for you to shield your team? The talk has been out there for some time with people wondering if there is going to be a change.

“We educate them about what's important and what's not. I think because of how accountable they've been to each other and how they feel – I'm not inside their minds totally, but I think they've handled everything very well. No. Look, I've got 115 – and we look at it and it will be criticized as corny but they’re sons.”

Shifting to Indiana a little bit, big playmakers have hurt you this year. They have Wynn. They have Coleman. Cobb [MINN] and Langford [MSU] had their way [with you]. How important is it to limit the big play?

“Well, Wynn’s a very good playmaker. He's proven that over the years. He’s a guy who returns kicks. He also reverses. We know him pretty well because he's a Glenville guy, and he's a guy who's very athletic. Coleman, all you have to do is watch him. All you have to watch is one game, doesn't matter what game. He breaks tackles. He's got breakaway finishing speed, so I guess your question was do we not want to give up big plays? Or how do you limit it?”

I don’t want to say stress [not giving up big plays] because you do that every week but has it become more important or alarming? Lippett had a 70 yard touchdown. Cobb ran for 183, Langford for 177. You guys are getting chewed up by big playmakers. Is this week a week to where you’re really stressing it to where it maybe is more important than it has been in the past.
“Well, I don't know if that would be the right way to put it. I think I would put it [as] we always stress it. And we work on pursuit, we work on leverage, we work on getting off blocks and all those things. When you don't do those things, that's when bad things happen, tackling being part of it. Yes, there's always an emphasis on not giving up big plays.”

Now that you’ve reached this point in the season coming off a big rivalry game, how difficult is it to keep the team in the moment? Is it tougher now than it was before Michigan State with all the things swirling around?

“By the way they handled themselves, reacted, came in, worked out, all those things yesterday I would say no but I think at the same time even if you’re undefeated there's distractions that can come about that can screw you up, Yeah. We've got a third of the season left. We know that the first one of that third is this week and it's homecoming and it's special.”

MGoQuestion: You’ve often said that you’ve had good weeks of practice and that hasn’t always translated to the field. Do you anticipate making any structural changes to practice this week?

“You know, I've thought about that. We may do a couple things different.”

MGoGahhhhhhWhyDidIGiveBackTheMicrophoneNowIHaveAFollowupQuestionThat’llHaveToWaitUntilWednesday


When you have that many drops in a game, what is that due to?

“I think it's like anything else. I think if your focus, intensity, and concentration on what you're doing isn't where it needs to be, I think that's a big part of it. Were they all easy? Maybe not, But it's like playing a double team. I'll relate it to a defensive lineman. If you're not focused and intensity on the blocks and leverage and eyes and where your hand placement is you're not going to play the double team very well. Well, we didn't do that very well either.”

 

What was Dantonio’s response to you [re: the stake]?

“You know, I'm not going to tell you what him and I talked about. Him and I, the one thing I can tell you, we have a lot of respect for each other.”
What happened to the stake?

“I have no idea.”


One more thing about the stake. Clarify here. You had said just a little while ago that you knew they were going to take it out before the game?

“Yeah, late. As I'm leaving the locker room –”
Before the game.

“I don't know if you've noticed but I always come out at the end because I want the seniors and the kids [to go first] so that's when I find out. I don't run as well as I used to so there isn't any way I would've caught him one thing I can tell you is Joe feels as bad as anybody. That wasn't the intent. There was no disrespect intended for anybody. It was a thing for our team.”

 

When the other guys have been out for the season you’ve explained what the reason was. With Desmond what’s the reason he’s missing the season?

“He had a hand problem.”

And it’s not expected to heal by then or it’s too late in the season?

“A little bit of both. Yeah. It’s 2/3 of the season done.”

 

Speaking of steaks, what is your favorite steak?

“Where from, or what is my favorite?”

Your favorite steak.

“Cowboy cut. Yeah.”

Comments

superstringer

October 27th, 2014 at 7:25 PM ^

He seems to have more respect for our rival's coach than for his own team's fanbase.

Such nonchalance.  Eh, we're disappointed, eh, we practiced hard, eh, don't know why we dropped 7 balls, eh, I don't agree they blew up all over us.  But oh yeah, I made DAMN sure to publicly apologize for us sticking a short stake into their turf cuz, you know, that's sooo damn disrepectful and bad and probably a crime in certain parts of ISIL-held territory (although, what isn't).

Too much to ask?  "Hey I know things look really aweful and seem to be going downhill this year and over the past 4 years, and I get it, and look, there's only so much we can do this year, and I know I"m making $4M and don't seem to be earning it, but [insert whatever defense allows him to wake up in the morning and look himself in the mirror]."

Just thank god my favorite professional football team isn't going thru a mess like this this year (Bears fan here).  Wait, what....

East German Judge

October 27th, 2014 at 7:27 PM ^

Our Fred Flintstone/Gomer Pyle of a coach is still making no sense at all when it comes to the Devin and Shane role at the end of the game.  Seriously, he sounds nothing short of incoherent, stupid, or drunk - or all of the above.  What a disgrace to have this clown for a coach.  Stop and think about this obvious stat for the day:

Year 1: Sugar Bowl - national accolades

Year 4: No Bowl - national humiliation, on a daily basis!

MaximusBlue

October 27th, 2014 at 7:37 PM ^

I've never in my life seen a head coach like this on any level. Week after week, he shows up and babbles the same bullshit that makes absolutely no sense. It's laughable as much as it is embarrassing and frustrating. Hoke: "When you look at it, and as you look at it as coaches, we're pretty much consistent on what is a drop and what's not but we had some opportunities." Seriously?

Magnum P.I.

October 27th, 2014 at 7:43 PM ^

Can we curb the vitriol? Hoke is defeated and clearly knows he's finished as coach. He's an inarticulate guy and simply can't do any better in these presser situations to express himself. There's nothing he can say at this point to appease us, anyway. He'll be gone soon. No reason for us  to piss on his grave. I'm as big a critic as any, but the gratuitous insults go too far. 

dragonchild

October 27th, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^

He's a big boy being paid more money this year than I'll ever see in my life.  He'd better be able to take it.

And for what it's worth, who gives a shit that he's finished.  Before I left my engineering career, I pulled an all-nighter leading up to my last day of the job.  And stayed late.  I didn't do it for my manager, who was an emotionally abusive and irresponsible asshole who stood to gain the most from the effort.  I didn't do it out of principle.  I did it to put my teammates in the best possible position even though I had absolutely nothing to gain from it.

Hoke is still the coach.  He'd better man up because he OWES it to the players, and I'm gonna hold him accountable for every pathetic failing until his very last day.  That's being a goddamn professional and an adult.  Being the football coach at Michigan is not a personal hobby.

Magnum P.I.

October 27th, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^

I've never shied away from "holding him accountable for every pathetic failing," to the degree that my meaningless internet voice can hold someone accountable. He tried hard and probably has pulled lots of all-nighters. He just can't do it. And he'll be gone soon, which is good. It's just getting unnecessarily vitriolic, I think.

991GT3

October 27th, 2014 at 8:25 PM ^

gratutiously tearing him and and just stating facts. Reciting what he says in his pressers is not being vitriolic but factual. That said, I do not condone personal attacks.

FWIW, keep in mind that even after this debacle DB is firmly in Hoke's corner. He genuinely believes these are nothing more than growing pains as the foundation is being built. Brandon went so as to mention Saban's record after four years at Alabama ( yes he is comparing Hoke to Sabin).

Magnum P.I.

October 27th, 2014 at 8:39 PM ^

No, I agree that the criticism is all completely valid. There're just more and more hate-filled comments, and I think that's unnecessary. Made me feel bad to hear him censoring himself for fear of being made fun of. 

And I don't think that there's any chance he's coming back next year. The mission was to undeniably expose his incompetence as head coach at Michigan. We done good there. 

dragonchild

October 28th, 2014 at 6:44 AM ^

Scanning the comments here, some aren't particularly substantive, so yeah, I see your point.  I apologize for losing my cool.

I empathize, but I can't really get as worked up about it though; the vitriol here is pretty tame compared to other places, and taking heat just comes with the territory of a coaching job.  Not that it's right, but I mean the most-loved coach on the planet will get trolls crawling out from cracks and crannies on the day after an undefeated season.  It never completely stops, it just increases when someone's struggling.

And as for Hoke, I point his failings more to hubris than him being "just not good enough".  That may be a bit of a quibble, and it's speculation on my part, but in its own way it's giving Hoke credit.  I mean he probably COULD succeed as head coach of Michigan if he was willing to admit FOR A DAMN MOMENT that his methods are not infallible and if he was willing to embrace having to learn the game all over again with gusto, he might emerge as bona fide HC material.  But if you read his presser answers you can see his unwillingness to change, his stubborn adherence to archaic minutae, and belief that the only thing his methods need is time.  These are human failings, and fixable ones, as opposed to Hoke merely hitting the limit of his talents, which is why I'm much less sympathetic.  He may not learn it here, and maybe he'll never learn it at all, but for what it's worth, I'm harsh because I think Hoke is a better man than where he's at right now -- like Derrick Green before he lost 20 pounds.

You Only Live Twice

October 27th, 2014 at 10:45 PM ^

to do that Dragon child, there are many more asshole managers out there than there are good ones.  Your story is the tip of an iceberg the size of a continent. 

Who gives a shit that Hoke's finished, I do, cause management wise, he's a good guy.  I am everlastingly sorry that a good guy couldn't come out on top.  Maybe he still can.

 

uncleFred

October 27th, 2014 at 8:55 PM ^

a reality check.

He's a football coach and despite the narrative here that he's over his head or a bumbling fool he in fact is concerned solely about doing his job. A job which I'm certain he know one hell of a lot more about than more than a handful of people here you and I included. 

You are 100% correct about gratuitous insults, but don't think for a second that he's given up. You should also be prepared for him to survive this season and remain head coach next season, because that remains a very real possibility.

If any of you care for my advice it would be to set your emotions aside and actually listen to what Hoke says. Don't let your hot buttons keep you from hearing this guy. There is content inside the coach speak.

I've never given up on a Michgian football team. Screamed at the TV screen? You bet. Cursed play calling decisions that I thought inexplicable? Absolutely. But have I ever given up and written off a team or the staff before season's end? Never. 

My team, my school, win or lose every season to season's end bitter or sweet. These players are giving everything they have every day. Their coaches are working just as hard, and given their hours are not limited by the NCAA harder. All of them deserve our respect. Maybe this will be a complete crash and burn of a season. Maybe the team will pick itself up and gel enough to grow under pressure to win out. None of us know how the season will end, but we can, if we look with honest eyes, see that neither the players nor the coaches have surrendered.  If we call ourselves fans, how can we write them off?

uncleFred

October 27th, 2014 at 8:59 PM ^

with the entire rib bone still attached. Usually weighs about a 1.5 lbs including the bone. The bone adds flavor to the beef. An excellent choice. It's often called a "Fred Flintstone" steak because of the large bone. 

 

MonkeyMan

October 27th, 2014 at 7:43 PM ^

Hoke, re: stake

“Well, it was in our locker room as something that happened on Friday night and did I know? Yeah, late I knew. And I'll take the accountability for it too. I mean, that's my responsibility.”

One gets a sense that events don't make sense to even him- like he is just lost in a storm. He doesn't get control over anything- things just "happen"

Amutnal

October 28th, 2014 at 2:19 AM ^

He has no business being head coach of Michigan football. His coaching progression from Ball State D-line coach to head coach to SDSU head coach was fine. Going from SDSU to Michigan was a joke. Hoke was passed over by Indiana, a school who had intimate knowledge of his coaching abilities. Hike would have never been considered based on coaching merit. It was his stupid michigan ties that got him job he was under qualified to take. Hoke is just more godammned lucky than all of us to somehow get a 4 million dollar contract when he would have probably accepted 1 million. That is on DB.

I know former players from Ball State who played for him who were like wtf. And they also said Funk was terrible and was only at ball state for the last year and couldn't develop shit.

Manbaugh

October 27th, 2014 at 7:47 PM ^

It's his modern stoneage football team....

Best part of this presser was the Mgoblog reaction to giving up the microphone. I wonder if they stood there and snatched that thing away, fearing the follow up question. 

 

Amaizing Blue

October 27th, 2014 at 7:48 PM ^

Perhaps our team is taking the Delorean to 1986 and there is no room for Peppers. Or, instead of throwback jerseys we are going throwback venue and playing at Ferry Field. The sidelines are narrow there, again no room for Peppers. Third option-Hoke is giving Peppers a time-out because that is how you discipline one of your 115 sons. PLEASE MAKE IT ALL STOP!!!!!! (Rocks in corner humming to self for next 12.hours.)

AZ-Blue

October 28th, 2014 at 3:33 AM ^

WTF does that mean?  That sounds an awful like distancing from team.  If we lose Peppers to a transfer thru all this THAT will be the low point of this season.  Hoke's name should be "Paterno'ed" off the books.  We delorean his ass back to 1986 and leave him there.

UMForLife

October 27th, 2014 at 7:55 PM ^

Why is he not fired yet. I wish someone would have asked him two questions. 1. Are you planning to resign because you let your 115 sons down? 2. Are you planning to apologize to 115 sons, the fans, the university and everyone who cares about this program, as your team has hit the rock bottom. This guy. Why is he still talking. He should be in his bed sucking his thumb as he was owned by Dantonio the Douche.

readyourguard

October 27th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^

I can't even read this shit anymore. What the fuck is "When you look at it, and as you look at it as coaches, we're pretty much consistent on what is a drop and what's not...." Well good. Our coaches are consistent on what is a dropped pass.

Leonhall

October 27th, 2014 at 9:39 PM ^

Can a question to hoke eventually be:

Did you take the Michigan job just to have front row seats each week?

He reminds me of some guy who just sneaked onto the sideline and is just cheering.

The FannMan

October 27th, 2014 at 10:19 PM ^

I read through a queston and a-half and had to stop.  It's such a train wreck.  I can't imagine going to one of these and asking questions other than "Are you fired yet or what?"