Wow, haven't heard it called the Copper Bowl in a long time. Didn't even recognize which game you were referring to for a second ... but I assume you have an (understandable) standing policy against Generic Corporate Sponsor Bowl nonsense?
Michigan Probably Playing Kansas State In Bowl
I've heard 10:15 and 8:15, which is it?
10:15 Eastern time. 8:15 in Arizona.
8:15 MST, that's 10:15 EST
A late one!
maybe if you are good, I will let you stay up late to watch, but as it stands it is way past your bedtime.
Dec 28th in Arizona at 10:15 pm. Yea that sums up the season in a nut shell. Lets just hurry up and get it over with.
10:15 is too late. Who thought this was a good idea? The primary viewing audience will have to be up until 1am+ to watch this game through.
I was called a gramps when I said that.
I'll say it again: anyone who can't stay up until 1 am on a Saturday is either geriatric or sad
I guess I am sad.
Or has young children that wake them up at 6:00-6:30 every saturday and sunday because they are so happy to have their dad stay home all day on the weekend. I am not sad (although I am pretty damn tired) about this.
Of course I will be staying up for the game and cheering as if it were the National Championship game, but it still sucks for those of us that can't sleep in the next day. There is just no need for this start time. You could to a 7:00 local kickoff, which would be 9:00 Eastern. Still a night game, but a bit less brutal on many of us.
Or those of us who both have young kids and have an early flight back to CA the next morning from Grand Rapids. Flying across country with young kids makes for a long day, and I wasn't planning on staying up until 2 (which is the time I'd get to sleep after the game ends).
1. It's Saturday
2. When you eat at Buffalo Wild Wings, you're usually making a compromise.
A compromise between eating healthy and eating something delicious maybe. Which is the same as all compromises required in eating delicious things pursuant to the inverse healthy/delicious relationship.
Delicous? They're not terrible, but their wings top out at average. Of course living in Buffalo for 2 years spoiled me on wings, so, yeah. I miss authentic wings and beef on weck.
I would take Mr. Spots over any wing, including Duffs and Anchor bar in Buffalo.
Duffs has gone downhill a lot over the last few years. In fact when we were there last Christmas visiting family they were barely on par with BWW, we vowed never to go back when we visit. Anchor bar was never that impressive. I mean they were good, but not the best. Hard to pick one that's the best, but Bar Bill was probably my top choice if I had to choose.
Personal preference. Never had duffs or anchor bar, but lived across the street from spots for 2 years. Smoked every. day and never really craved Spots more than once a week tops (BLASPHEMY!). Ate a ton of quickie burger and btb though. Since moving, I eat the shit out of some BWW and crave them way more than ever did spots for whatever reason.
It's a Saturday night at least.
Copper, Tangerine, Peach!!! Bring them all back!!!
It's getting added to the playoff rotation, and they wanted to give it class back. So it'll be the Peach Bowl again.
It's a great development.
I mean A-Freaking-Men!
if we made the Rose Bowl, NONE OF THIS WOULD MATTER!
Three year season ticket holder. Went to the last two bowl games (even bought the tickets from the Uni like a good little Wolverine), but this is a straight up fucking embarrassment. I was pretty pumped to see us take on Georgia (hell, I was planning on going), but seriously... fuck. that. shit.
I've stayed quiet about all the recent troubles but this is just the straw breaking my back. I suppose we don't know what happened behind the scenes but given that all the projections had us in the Gator Bowl I can't imagine what must have happened.
The BWW picked before the Gator Bowl this year, meaning they picked us over Nebraska.
Why is everyone missing this? This year, this is the more "prestigious" bowl.
because apparently everyone in our fanbase is over 50 and thinks playing in January means anything
Who cares? It's a match up of 7-5 teams after a dreaful year for Michigan. Does winning the BWW bowl make the season a success? No. Does losing make it even worse? Yes. There is very little upside to this bowl game. However, had Michigan been playing in the Gator bowl against Georgia, winning that game would have at least been against a good team from the SEC. On top of that it would have been on New Years Day when people tune in to watch football, rather than at 10:30 at night on a day few people watch football, against a team no one cares about.
Average Nielsen rating of Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl over last 3 years: 2.6 (4.3 million viewers)
Average Nielsen rating of Gator Bowl over last 3 years: 1.7 (2.6 million viewers)
If you would rather see Michigan play in Jacksonville, fine, but don't pretend that more people would have been watching Michigan play in the Gator Bowl.
I guess the thing about the Gator Bowl is that it has some history. If you're older, you remember Woody Hayes punching Charlie Bauman in that game one year and then Lawrence Taylor destroying Johnny Wangs' knee in that game a year later. In the lexicon of bowl games, any bowl that can trace its history back to the '70's qualifies as a classic, even if it's played in Jacksonville.
I can tell you that the UGA fans would rather play Michigan. Hell, they got a re-match with the same team they played last year, with neither team being as good now as they were then.
The real question is which bowl has the better swag for the players
I'd rather see Michigan play against a team that matters. Beating Georgia would matter, beating KSU will not. If the BWW had Oregon, Oklahoma, or some other school that is a sexy match-up then I would be all for the BWW. You go ahead and get excited about that KSU match up any way you can.
Getting picked by the Gator Bowl would not have improved our 7-5 regular season record.
Arguing that you'd rather see a matchup with an SEC team (even a mediocre one) is one thing, but there are a lot of people griping about how we "sank to such a lowly bowl" and at the same time arguing for a matchup in a bowl that would have meant we "sank" lower. It would be like Trey Burke complaining that he didn't get picked by the Clippers or something.
Ultimately, Michigan got picked ahead of two superior teams, in terms of B1G standing: Minnesota and Nebraska. We should be thankful. And while the stadium kind of sucks, I submit that Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale is a nicer place to be in December than Jacksonville.
I don't understand why anybody is disappointed that we didn't drop to the Gator Bowl. Also, it's a much more interesting destination (at least in late December/early January).
The place is interesting for about a day (which in all fairness should work out well for a bowl trip) but it isn't what I would call a destination all of itself. Then again, Jacksonville isn't either... I guess I hate cactus, but I hate Florida more!
Jan 1st bowl against respectable and beatable SEC team or Dec 28th 10pm who-cares-fest?
You forgot that it is a January 1st game that is one of 6 others that day. I'm pretty sure 4 big ten bowls all start at the same exact time. I'll take a Saturday night game, even if it starts an hour or two later than I would have liked.
they get Klein?
That would make this an infinitely more interesting game.
Just realized that is same night as Silva/Weidman 2.
Gol durn it... Well I'll be flipping channels back and forth that evening...
I'll be at the Holiday Bowl.
Lordy gurl git my med'cin.
I'm happy as hell about this since I live here!! Lot of MI people live here, we should have a lot of support at the game. For all of your traveling, it will be a good time. Much better city to be in then Jacksonville.
I live in the Phoenix area and haven't been able to travel a reasonable distance to a Michigan game in I don't even know how long. Really looking forward to this, assuming it's accurate.
Copper Bowl: still one of the best lost bowl names.
If they had started it today, and it didn't have a sponsor name, they'd have just called it the Arizona Bowl. Place-named bowls, with one exception (Las Vegas) are almost as grating as corporate-named bowls. They're boring and unimaginative.