After glancing at the board today and looking at the Rivals State Rankings post (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2471&Year=2010) I started wondering why the east side of Michigan is so heavily recruited compared to the west side. As of late the west has been pretty dominant in the state finals (7 state champs last year or 8 counting TCSF) or has held there own in some of the higher divisions. It also has had some highly ranked teams nationally (Muskegon and Lowell). I was just wondering what people thought was the reason for this disparity? If it is just better talent, then why doesn't it translate to the field?
Michigan Instate Recruiting: East vs. West
When it comes to recruiting high school ball, the level of competition is much more important than whether the team is winning championships or not. Ball on the western side of the state just isn't as competitive as say, the Detroit PSL, and there's just MORE players on the east side of the state.
Look at Hoover High in Alabama. Prestigious program, had their own TV show, won championships...and they don't put out too many high level recruits. Stronger competition makes for better players.
I would think that the level of competition would have some association with success. The OK Red is pretty similar as of late with competition. They have a tough conference in D I/II but have had a state champ most years (recently). I do agree with the sheer numbers aspect, but its hard to believe coaches can have that much success without some highly recruitable players.
The West has much more complete teams than the East, while the East carries more talent. I wonder how good teams in the East would be with the coaching of say...Lowell or Rockford or Muskegon or East Grand Rapids (hold the Grady jokes, they're a powerful team)
If Muskegon Heights wins a state championship in 2 years then I will agree with you 100%.
I started wondering why the east side of Michigan is so heavily recruited compared to the west side.
Because that's where most of the best players are.
Although East Grand Rapids beat Inkster for the state title last year, it would be foolish to assume that EGR has anyone better than Devin Gardner.
Foolish... Yes! Im just wondering why the Devin Gardners dont translate over to success like the Vince Youngs do at the college level?
....Devin Gardner lost in a state title game. I would say his team had a pretty successful season. FWIW, Vince Young lost in the Texas state semi-finals as a senior.
As far as college goes, we have to wait 5 more years to see whether Devin compares to Vince Young on the college level.
Better teams != better individual players.
For example, there was a few years ago when Rockford won the D1 State title, but they didn't have a single all-state player on the team. Then there's last year's Cass Tech team, who had a number of kids who were a year or 2 from D1 football, and they barely made the playoffs and not much else.
Also, Mick McCabe did an article about something similar to this in the freep last year. The culture on the west side of the state is a lot bigger on high school football, so they have bigger, deeper teams, which is important for season long success.
A lot of the West Michigan teams have had success in basketball too, but there are rarely big prospects coming out of there.
That makes a lot of sense! Ill have to check for that article.
Also, keep in mind the number of schools. So many more of the big schools are on the east side of the state. Take the top 3 divisions, let's say that's 300 schools or so (kind of a guess, but we'll use it). Even if the three champs are all from the west side, realistically 225 of those big schools are from the east side. So you have to look past just the #1 school. Most years if you look at the state rankings for divisions 1-3, even if the number 1 school is from GR, 8 or 9 of the rest are probably from metro Detroit.
Isn't there just a lot more people on the east side of the state? Metro Detroit, Flint, Saginaw...
We should be spending more time in the thumb on recuiting. This is un-tapped territory. A ton of opportunity there.